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12:32 AM
Hi. I have a meta-question. I always thought that the main tex.stackexchange.com page listed the entries in inverse chronological order. However I noticed that an answer I gave 14min ago appears down in the list, below other older answers. It is just me?
inverse->reverse
 
12:43 AM
@JLDiaz It depends on how you last sorted them. If you click on the TeX logo at the top of the page, you'll get the questions sorted by last activity (most recently modified first). If instead, you click on the "Questions" link, the default view is to sort the questions by age, with newest questions first. You can also sort them by "active" (the sorting links are just above the top question.)
Notice that the sorting links when you click on the TeX logo offer different choices than the ones when you click on the Questions link. With the TeX logo you get the Top Questions and 'Active Featured Hot Week Month' links; with the Questions link you get All Questions and 'Newest Featured FAQ Votes Active Unanswered' links.
 
 
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2:51 AM
@DavidCarlisle OMG!!!! <3
 
 
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8:35 AM
@PauloCereda it's comic sans for you...
 
 
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9:48 AM
@DavidCarlisle :)
@AlanMunn, @egreg, @JosephWright: I have good news to tell you: yesterday I bought my very first Mac desktop to replace my current workstation. :) In a few days, my new iMac will arrive (and following your advice, I also bought the AppleCare support). :)
 
10:20 AM
@PauloCereda Cool: all working so far?
 
@JosephWright Yes. :) I usually update my hardware once in a while, ~ 2 or 3 years. :) And I'm very happy with the model and configuration. :) And I won the free Mountain Lion upgrade TBA in October. :)
 
 
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12:09 PM
@DavidCarlisle For the decimal alligment in the longtable question, siunitx might be worth mentioning.
 
perhaps, but Ive never used it:-) . Actually what he really wants there is to change the column spec mid-table (like blockarray) the first part of the table has 123.456 aligned numbers but the last few rows are different data altogether and have integers. dcolumn (and I assume siunits?) align integers with the whole part of teh floating point values but he wanted them centred
 
He wants the middle rows alligned at comma, and the remaining rows centered?
 
I think so??
 
Straaaangeeee
His problem is the yes
 
12:49 PM
@Werner: oh my, I'm so slow! I just noted the "just now" part... just now. :P The only kind of hint I get is "vote again in x hours", where 20 < x < 24. :P
 
1:03 PM
TUG 2012 livestream, anyone? :)
 
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A: Change a parameter in document using the cmd?

DidiiThanks to Ulrike Fischer for the solution: > pdflatex \cmd\input{texfile} \cmd can be any command LaTeX recognizes. And input{texfile} pastes all contents of texfile.tex into the cmd.

Convert it to CW?
 
3:43 PM
slooooowly creeping towards 20k!
At this rate I might just make it by the weekend.
 
@N3buchadnezzar I liked the Video linked in there:
 
4:42 PM
@N3buchadnezzar note the tex markup in that file, rendered via mathml/mathjax. Good to see these technologies being put to good use solving the really important questions of the day.
 
@StephanLehmke I wonder what egreg would say about this song. :D
My new ringtone. :)
 
Was this ever linked here?
 
@StephanLehmke WOW
 
Hard to take your eyes away...
 
5:03 PM
The Scale of the Universe + Beethoven Virus playing in the background = epicness.
 
 
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6:12 PM
General meta-stackexchange question
There is some way to send a private message to another user?
(not in the chat)
 
@PauloCereda Supercool! I took a day off: four new mountain passes! Lovely weather and wonderful places!
 
@PauloCereda AppleCare is a good choice. Two weeks ago my HDD crashed.
 
@JosephWright I've added a note about the fixed bug in XeTeX.
 
@egreg Seen: thanks
 
@JLDiaz It's not possible, and it's unlikely that this will be implemented: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/431/…
 
6:34 PM
@Jake Thank you
 
7:05 PM
@egreg How nice! I miss you. :)
@MarcoDaniel I think it was a good idea. :) It's not that expensive if you consider the plan for 3 years. :)
The Apple seller asked me if I wanted an additional software for text editoring. "- No thanks, I already have the software I want." "- Ah cool, you already have either iWork or Office for Mac, right?" "- (pause) sure! (evil laugh)" :D
@JosephWright: no TUG2012 super secret LaTeX3 livestream link? :)
 
@StephanLehmke I missed 1 sp there
@PauloCereda Somebody said he will blog/report from the TUG 2012, I'll let you know when I see it!
 
7:23 PM
@StefanKottwitz Ah thanks! :)
 
7:37 PM
@PauloCereda One of them was a very narrow road. During the descent I lost count of the hairpin turns. Surely more than 20. :) But the record, until now, is Passo Pordoi: 33.
 
looking for any news of tug2012 came across this. Anyone know who this bloke is? ....river-valley.tv/codici-di-categoria
 
@egreg Oh my, attention to the road. :)
@DavidCarlisle Yay!
 
@PauloCereda You probably remember what I told you about a disaster in Longarone, where a slip filled an artificial lake and the resulting wave killed more than 2000 people. I arrived to the dam from behind and visited the small village on the right of the photo.
The road in the middle is where the lake had been: the slip completely fills the place.
The wave arrived to that village and killed people also there.
 
7:53 PM
@egreg I do remember. :) The village seems very peaceful and friendly. :)
 
@PauloCereda It's almost abandoned. But there's people that's returning to live there. The inhabitants were "invited" to leave the place after the disaster. Some villages for them were built in different and quite far places.
 
@egreg Ah I thought it was an active village. When Brazil began the construction of the Itaipu hydroelectric dam, the government had to reallocate thousands and thousands of people from the target area.
 
@PauloCereda Oh, it was very high with respect to the height of the lake. After the disaster many houses were damaged and the authorities thought it better to move the people. All the houses are made of stone, it's very old: a typical mountain village. It could be an important attraction for tourists. It's called Casso; the nearest village is Erto, maybe four kilometers. They speak different dialects. :)
 
8:10 PM
@egreg It's surely a beautiful place. :) And dialects, please, I can't even handle the "classic" Italian. :) Mom saw me reading a "Italian for travellers" pocket book and said, "look, now you can talk in Italian with your friend Enrico." :)
 
I think our peace on TeX.SE is about to end. MS Office comes with a PDF edit feature according to this telegraph.co.uk/technology/microsoft/9404665/…
I think this person is responsible for that research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/lamport
 
@percusse :-)
@percusse He reported a bug in LaTeX a few months ago, so you never know
 
I think we are safe. :)
 
@JosephWright I'll try to think positively :P
 
@percusse The funny thing was it seemed that the code with the issue came from LaTeX2.09 or even earlier :-)
 
8:19 PM
@JosephWright It seems like a fossil rather than a bug.
 
@JosephWright: newbie question: do you have Office for Mac?
 
@PauloCereda Yes
 
@JosephWright Is it nice? I have iWork, but I've seen better reviews for Office.
 
@PauloCereda Although I need Office for Windows, it's handy to have the Mac version too when editing files that do not need the Windows version
@PauloCereda It's OK. My mum finds it less convenient than Office for Windows, as the interface is somewhat different
I mainly use Excel in 'native' mode, as Word/PowerPoint tends to be for work and there I need the Windows version
 
8:22 PM
@JosephWright Ahaha, ...yes it was reasonable as defined by you...
 
@percusse I did like that reply: one of the benefits of being on the LaTeX team :-)
 
@JosephWright Ah I see. :) I think the Office interface is less cluttered than iWork. The only thing that still impresses me is Keynote from iWork.
 
@PauloCereda I've never used iWork, so I cannot comment.
 
@JosephWright hehe thanks for the insight, I'll also annoy @AlanMunn about iWork/Office for Mac. :D
 
@JosephWright Still no news from Philip Lehman?
 
8:30 PM
@PauloCereda I don't think that the others on the chat would like it. :) Saluti a tua mamma da parte mia. :)
 
@percusse Nope
@percusse I suspect we will not hear of him again :-(
 
@JosephWright Is there any chance to ask gmx.net for some help to reach the family or terribly ask for closure (I sincerely hope otherwise) ?
 
@egreg Thanks! :) Mom replied, "Grazie altrettanto!" Did I write that right? :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes.
 
@percusse I have no idea what their rules are. I guess we could try, but I suspect will run into a privacy 'wall'
 
8:36 PM
@JosephWright Have you got positive news? :(
 
@egreg No, nothing
 
@JosephWright He did not participate in any TUG or something else for presentation I guess. Otherwise maybe someone from the inside can track contact address, phone number or something else.
 
@egreg Mom doesn't know how to write in Italian. :)
 
@PauloCereda What age did she come to Brazil? Sorry if it's too personal.
 
@percusse As I've said before, there is only one report of someone thinking they've met him, years ago, and even then they cannot be sure and have no idea where he might have gone
@percusse Karl B. and I did try a number of avenues
 
8:41 PM
@JosephWright That's really sad to hear.
 
@percusse I know: he was always very helpful when I'd got questions
 
@egreg Don't worry! :) Mom came to Brazil at the age of 8, I guess (she was born in 1945). My mom learned Portuguese, but at home she spoke in Italian with her parents. My nonna spoke Portuguese too, but by her accent one could tell she was a foreigner. My mom has a perfect Portuguese accent, so no one can tell she's Italian. :)
 
@PauloCereda So she forgot her written Italian long ago.
 
@egreg I think so. :) I think she still has a lovely Italian accent. :)
 
@PauloCereda You should practice with her.
 
8:47 PM
@egreg Indeed. :)
 
@PauloCereda I haven't used iWork in a long time. I got it once and decided it was really a bit of a toy application (at least Numbers and Pages) compared to Office.
 
@AlanMunn My thoughts exactly. I have iWork, but I never managed to use it, I think the interface was very awkward.
 
I just installed Office 2011 for my Mac; it looks ok. Excel is the only part of it that I use very regularly; I only use Word if I'm collaborating with people or doing administrative type documents that need to be circulated in non-pdf form.
 
@AlanMunn Sounds much like me
 
@JosephWright It's getting to the point now that I almost feel I don't know how to do things in Word anymore, I use it so infrequently, even though I used to know it really well.
 
8:54 PM
@AlanMunn Oh, I do a lot of Word work
 
@egreg: vimeo.com/22531451 at 3:50 (my mom is the one in the left) Bonus: vimeo.com/22530980 at 6:43 me and my MacBook. :P
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@AlanMunn Sorry for the invasive question: home/student edition?
 
9:10 PM
@PauloCereda That's what I have. Same software, but cheaper :-)
 
@JosephWright Ah! :) The price difference here is huge, so I'd definitely go with the sudent version. :)
 
@PauloCereda It's not invasive. It says Student Media on the DVD. I don't think there's a substantive difference in what you get.
 
@PauloCereda Provided of course you are not using for a profit-making activity!
@AlanMunn No Outlook, but there is the demo version
 
@JosephWright What? Your university isn't supposed to make a profit? You're so behind the times. :)
 
@AlanMunn I use the Windows version of work stuff: work license, so I don't have to worry there
(Via Parallels)
 
9:12 PM
@JosephWright Counterfeit money activity. :)
@AlanMunn Everybody is somehow patented nowadays. :)
 
Everybody or everything ?
=)
 
@N3buchadnezzar I'd say both. :)
 
9:38 PM
@StephanLehmke These Tesla music videos are amazing. The Sweet Home Alabama is really good, but this one really takes the cake: youtube.com/watch?v=ksgNEgwliQM&feature=channel_video_title
 
@AlanMunn Nice form of entertainment. Was there some music? :)
 
@egreg There was a Beethoven Virus somewhere. :P
 
@PauloCereda I seemed to catch something related to Rimskij Korsakov. Which of course isn't music.
 
@egreg :)
 
9:54 PM
@egreg: A che ora parte il treno per Verona? Ooh I guess this traveller guide might help me when I visit you. :)
 
10:09 PM
@egreg I liked one of the comments: "I showed this to my friends and they said it was nerdy. I think they just misspelled 'epic'".
 
@AlanMunn The first video Stephan posted had a great comment: "I'm just waiting for that tree to burst into flames." :)
 
@PauloCereda Alle 8:17 (binario tre). L'arrivo è previsto alle 9:00 (binario sei).
 
@egreg Oh! :)
 

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