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12:30 AM
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7 hours later…
7:27 AM
@AlanMunn When you use gb4e do you also use normal enumerate in such document? I have noticed that their content do not line up. See e.g.
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{gb4e}
\usepackage{enumitem}

\begin{document}

gb4e examples:
\begin{exe}
  \ex Example one.
  \ex Example two.
\end{exe}

enumitem examples:
\begin{enumerate}[label=(\arabic*)]
\item Example one.
\item Example two.
\end{enumerate}

enumerate list:
\begin{enumerate}
\item List item one.
\item List item two.
\end{enumerate}

\end{document}
Note how the content of the first and second examples do not line up but how the second examples and the list line up. (Or maybe this is good for distinguishing examples from lists?)
 
7:50 AM
I don't think this warrants a full-blown quesiton on tex.sx, so I'll just ask here: Has anyone had any experience with getting reftex to understand that \label in an align environment is a perfectly fine thing to want to \ref? And making it understand \eqref seems pretty hard too (C-c ) e just inserts (\ref{[...]) instead).
 
@kahen In reftex i usually hardcode my equations, sections, appendices etc. If that is done it is really easy (and you need not think about other future environments). Tell reftex to trust prefix.
(setq reftex-trust-label-prefix t)
Then if you wish reftex to insert eqref instead of ref simply do:
(setq reftex-label-alist
'(
(nil ?e "eq:" "\\eqref{%s}" nil nil)
))
For instance I have used this for some time:
(setq reftex-label-alist
'(
(nil ?e "eq:" "\\ref{%s}" nil nil)
(nil ?t "tbl:" "~\\tr{%s}" nil nil)
("\\chapter{}" ?a "app:" "~\\ar{%s}" nil nil)
("\\codesection[]{}[]{*}" ?c "code:" "~\\ar{code:%s}" 2 ("Code") -2)
(nil ?s "sec:" "~\\sr{%s}" nil nil)
(nil ?c "chp:" "~\\cr{%s}" nil nil)
(nil ?f "fig:" "~\\fr{%s}" nil nil)
)
)
 
Isn't that going to make it use \eqref for everything?
 
no, that will use eqref for all labels that start with "eq:"
so \label{sec:whatever} is still a normal ref.
 
I meant the first one. Since it seems like it overwrites the entire list of how to ref things
 
This: (setq reftex-trust-label-prefix t), no it checks for prefix in label name, if it knows any of the prefix' it will handle it accordingly. If the prefix is not added it will not be recognised as anything.
 
8:05 AM
I meant this:
(setq reftex-label-alist
'(
(nil ?e "eq:" "\\eqref{%s}" nil nil)
))
 
yes, that specifies that all equation labels with prefix "eq:" are typeset as \eqref. If you want to distinguish between different types of equations you can do:
(nil ?e "myeq:" "\\somenicecommand{%s}" nil nil)
The ?e makes reftex recognize it as an equation.
 
Ah. It works brilliantly. Thanks
 
Great, you are welcome. :)
 
My Emacs-fu is weak. I love AUCTeX's highlighting and hotkeys though. And Emacs's ability to "M-x compile" when I'm using a makefile for a project.
 
Emacs is awesome, you can really customize it any way you want. You should bind your M-x compile to an F# button. Those buttons are way underused! ;)
 
8:17 AM
@zeroth Yes, Emacs is really a very good operating system, only lacking a decent text editor.
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;-)
 
Emacs ability to lower and raise sub- and superscripts is just perfect. It makes it much easier to read and write math.
 
@kahen Well, that's nice. Vim can't do that AFAIK.
 
I couldn't imagine using a text editor for TeX without that any more
 
@MartinScharrer I believe we have a VIM user in the house! :) Always good to have someone from the other camp ;)
@MartinScharrer I only use emacs due to the scripting possibilities. Actually I run VIM from the emacs shell....
NOT! :)
 
8:48 AM
@Jake I think you are right. I should have not answered it in the first place.
I was thinking that if they don't know how to do it, they won't understand the code anyway. But as you say, it might encourage them.
 
 
1 hour later…
10:09 AM
0
A: Can we get an indication comments are hidden between the comments?

Martin ScharrerI just wanted to post the same feature-request and found this one. I like to suggest to simply use a slightly thicker separation line between shown comments if there are hidden comments between it. This can IMHO be done by adding an additional CSS class to the comment before or after the hidden...

It would improve reading a comment thread and avoid confusion if important intermediate comments are hidden.
 
10:20 AM
0
Q: Allow moderator (and maybe 10k+ users) to pin comments so they are always displayed

Martin ScharrerIf a post has several comments only the first and/or most up-voted once are shown by default. If a new important comment, e.g. by a moderator, is added then it will not be displayed by default and isn't very visible even when the whole list of comments is shown. It would therefore be good if a m...

This way important moderator comment would be always visible.
 
10:34 AM
@AndrewStacey: don't run away from our interview. :) You are the next victim... I mean, guest. :)
 
11:00 AM
@NN I do sometimes use regular enumerations, but not with the same kind of formatting, so the fact that they don't line up is not a problem, IMO.
 
@MartinScharrer Haha, good comments. But I think you should keep your cool in SO. They are a different breed out there :D It is a good one too but I think it's going to be exploited right away everywhere but TeX.SE.
 
11:33 AM
@JosephWright: thanks for replying to Fabio's question. :)
 
hhh
Why does KOMO-script add this junk around xtabled -things?

\end{Soutput}
\end{Schunk}
 
@hhh Not junk but chunk :P
 
hhh
11:50 AM
...yes well I am irritated by this [1], trying to display a large table vertically fitted to the page. This kind of puzzles [2] besides odd Schunk -things slowing done things, irritating...

[1] http://pastie.org/3878447
[2] http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/54869/how-to-display-too-broad-table-not-fit-to-one-page-as-a-normal-sized
 
@hhh Hmm, joking aside, it went beyond my understanding quite rapidly.
 
hhh
12:24 PM
@percusse moved it here, cleaned up the code -- now clear?
 
12:36 PM
6
Q: MiKTeX package manager: service unavailable

WolfgangI have a problem with the MiKTeX package manager. I receive the message: The MiKTeX web service has rejected your request. Possible reason: too many requests arriving from your IP address. and: HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable. I cannot even choose another repository. Maybe this ...

Is "Behold for the end is near!" an acceptable answer?
 
hhh
1:05 PM
How can I use Matplot for this kind of data?

lag myF myP
1 1 0 0 0 0 0.48289817
2 1 0 0 0 1 0.00000000
3 1 0 0 1 0 0.00000000
4 1 0 0 1 1 NaN
5 1 0 1 0 0 0.00000000
6 1 0 1 0 1 NaN
7 1 0 1 1 0 NaN
8 1 0 1 1 1 NaN
9 1 1 0 0 0 0.00000000
10 1 1 0 0 1 NaN
11 1 1 0 1 0 NaN
12 1 1 0 1 1 NaN
err better here displayed.
second...
(sorry stupid q, solved it already by thinking a second)
 
hhh
1:34 PM
What was the command to add labels in Mathplot(...) or actually in any plot?
I want to specify labels/markings from factor(...)
I have 20 lines and I need to label what they are, there is an English word for this...annotate?
(quite unreadable without specifying what the colors are for, some rainbow(...) -cmd and then some labeling -function-box, investigating...)
 
1:53 PM
@hhh legend maybe?
 
user19161
@percusse That's the answer he just got in the other room!
 
@ClarkKent I don't know the other room :) But I would like to know if there is a kitchen.
 
user19161
@percusse Are you hungry? Have a Kit Kat!
 
Dibs on the donuts!
 
\expandafter\eat{\Donuts} literally...
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2:07 PM
LOL
 
\noexpand\torture{\Boring vegetables}
 
user19161
@PauloCereda Oh, recently a few branches of "dunkin donuts" opened here, so I guess I could have donuts too!
 
@ClarkKent Sure! Donuts for everybody! :)
 
@percusse an open brace is not expandable
 
2:22 PM
@DavidCarlisle I guess that's the literal part :) I couldn't catch the editing time so I will be an example of ignorance and hunger.
 
@DavidCarlisle So I won't be able to eat the donut? :(
 
@PauloCereda Well there is a risk of choking due to failure to apply enough premature expansion.
 
@DavidCarlisle Uh-oh. :)
 
@PauloCereda You can always use the \begin{heimlich} ..... \end{heimlich} from the firstaid package.
 
2:38 PM
@percusse Cool! :)
 
hhh
@percusse Yes that is right, investigating its origin here.
How can I make a long legend?
It is 24 long and only 8 now displayed so it s 3 times longer
 
@hhh What are you using to produce these ? I would highly recommend to use pgfplots.
 
hhh
matplot(maFac, type='l')
title('p-values over Lags sorted by Combs')
plot.new()
legend('bottom', paste(factor(myData$myF)), col=rainbow(24), lty=1)
@percusse pgfplots? Easy to implement here?
I think there was some sort of floating thing or?
 
@hhh There has been a recent question about it. Let me find it just to show how it works in a nutshell.
@hhh I couldn't find it but this should do it :)
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Q: Use first row of a table as legend entry in pgfplot graph?

ben paillardI'm using pgfplots extensively and I'd like to avoid having to write legends every time, since all the text files I want to plot have explicit headers. As a comparison, \pgfplotstabletypeset makes a nice table instantly with my data, and I'm looking for a similar way to get graphs in an easier w...

I really really recommend you to check out the manual for the wonders of this package which is built on PGF/TikZ. Here is the link ...manual...
 
hhh
3:00 PM
But I solved like this and look the nice graph, cannot understand why I need the pgflplot...


par(mfrow=c(1,2))
matplot(maFac, type='l', col=rainbow(24))
title('p-vals over Lags by Combs')
plot.new()
legend('bottom', paste(levels(factor(myData$myF))), col=rainbow(24), lty=1)
(ok I have probs there with title but anyway...good enough)
 
@hhh I am definitely not saying that it's impossible otherwise, I'm just proposing an alternative which gives (personal opinion here) superior control over plotting capabilities.
and for the record I'm a MATLAB power user and I'm burning with hate when even thinking about it :) So I have carried over all my plotting stuff to pgfplots (little bit of R and Lua rarely).
 
hhh
@percusse My weak link is Matlab...
but Lua and R sounds nice...I love usability and easy-use well here actually quite hard to adjusting things, perhaps have to look for the pgfplot...
 
@hhh Great, please don't take my comments too seriously. Everybody has a certain equilibrium about the workload and things that make me go crazy can be pretty natural to you and vice versa. However together with the manual, the questions under would hopefully convince you that it's a pretty competitive alternative.
 
4:07 PM
@Werner: Wow!! Am impressed that you were able to totally ignore the insults.. Not sure if I would have been able to respond so well..
 
@PeterGrill Huh?
 
8
Q: Variable argument command

aragilarI'm typesetting some group theory notes, and a significant amount of it is cycles, i.e. \left(1\,2\,3\right). Is there a way of defining a command which takes a arbitrary number of arguments so I can write \cycle{1}{2}{3}?

 
@PeterGrill Ah, I see. I think I'll keep an eye on that one
 
@JosephWright Its not the question, but...
 
@PeterGrill I understood: thanks
 
4:16 PM
@PeterGrill S/he manages to keep a conversation under very careful conditions (the chat room is still visible) but somehow it rubs the wrong way in the case of the slightest mistake. It must be pretty depressive to keep it that way.
 
any luatex users out there?
 
I know a few Lua. :)
 
@percusse Yeah, I just don't get users like that. I could understand someone thinking that a new user might not be getting it, but a little thinking before responding (like perhaps looking at the order of magnitude of the rep) should have gone a long way. But even to a new user, there is just no need to respond like that... So sad to see that here... Lets hope it does not proliferate...
 
@PeterGrill I hope so too. ....googles "proliferate" silently.... :P
 
@PauloCereda so you just volunteered to fix latex-project.org/cgi-bin/ltxbugs2html?pr=tools/4188 why did luatex introduce an incompatible version of \mathcode without giving it a new name. that seems,... unfortunate.
 
4:30 PM
@DavidCarlisle Uh-oh.
 
user19161
@percusse I don't know that many words myself but I happen to know this one. You may visit testyourvocab.com to see how many words you know.
 
4:50 PM
@DavidCarlisle I'd seen that: another reason to invite Taco to the UK-TUG meeting :-)
 
@JosephWright Any date now? :)
 
@PauloCereda I'm trying to get something booked: more news once I have a firm date.
 
@JosephWright Cool! :)
 
@PeterGrill I think the harsher the insults, the easier to respond. :-| Perhaps more strange is the two downvotes I received to my other top-voted answers: Documents with typical LateX errors and Adding a signature to an online job application
 
@Werner Interesting that they were all about 4 hours ago, about the same time as..., and also the first accepted answers listed in your profile...
 
5:03 PM
@PeterGrill ...interesting indeed...
 
@Werner Hey, thanks for the info on protrace -- don't know how I missed that answer earlier. Of course now I can blame you for providing yet another excuse to procrastinate.
 
@PeterGrill He he... you're always welcome! :)
 
@ClarkKent 12000 words. Must be wrong since I don't have enough memory for that :)
 
5:40 PM
@JosephWright Martin's comment is wrong: the answer doesn't address the problem in any way; it would be the same if it had pointed to \newcommand.
 
@egreg I'd wondered about that too. From memory, Uiy seems to have misunderstood what xparse is about.
 
@JosephWright I think it is a misinterpretation of "arbitrary number of arguments".
 
@egreg ?? I wrote "Your answer is indeed very general and doesn't address the actual problem of the question. "
or do you mean the "even if it technically answers the title of the question." part?
 
@MartinScharrer You added that "technically it answers the problem". It would be the same if he had written "read the LaTeX manual". :)
 
I just wanted to be diplomatic. ;-)
 
5:45 PM
@MartinScharrer I've flagged the answer telling my opinion. ;-)
 
The last part was in reference to "His question is Is there a way of defining a command which takes a arbitrary number of arguments which case I gave him an example to do so using xparse"
I just wanted to say that is answer isn't good even if he can argue that it answers some part of the question.
 
Meanwhile on GitHub: 189 watched repos. I have some serious problem. :)
 
@egreg I'd be interested in this opinion. :)
 
@percusse Should be: \expandafter\eat\expandafter{\Donuts} ;-)
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6:06 PM
@PauloCereda, our formatting maestro, how do you format code in an answer to a specific language (like bash or python, say)?
 
@Werner We simply add the following line before the code block: :)
<!-- language: lang-python -->
@Werner: There's a list of languages SE supports: :)
110
Q: Syntax highlighting language hints

Rowland ShawDo you think it would be worthwhile to provide hints as to what language to use for the syntax highlighting? Sometimes I find the highlighting on SQL or VB.NET answers is more distracting than helpful; for example: Converting MySQL select to PostgreSQL Retrieving data from a VB.NET arraylist o...

 
@PauloCereda Thanks - I'm marking that as a favourite... right now!
Now I just have to keep those favourites organized... :-|
 
@Werner It's a life-saver. :) I keep forgetting that link. :)
 
6:22 PM
@MartinScharrer Haha, nice one!
 
What is the problem of this example?
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{array}
\begin{document}
\def\tablecell#1\endscan{%
\makebox[1cm][c]{$#1$}%
}
\[\begin{array}{|>{\tablecell}c<{\endscan}|c|}
%\begin{array}{|>{\tablecell}c<{\endscan}|>{\tablecell}c<{\endscan}|}
   \hline
   \mathbf{x} & \mathbf{y} \\
   \hline
   \hline
   t_1 & lon_1 \\
   \hline
\end{array}
\]
\end{document}
 
@Werner It took some time and effort but it's worth it :P Maybe this would remove the bad taste from the comment clash you had today, there is a very kind apology for you on this one in the comments :)
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A: tikz code for frame dragging

percusseJust for the sake of answering with something instead of letting it linger in the unanswered list. Since your accept rate is zero and this is a draw-it-for-me question, your future questions are also unlikely to be answered. Please consider improving your stats and question formulation. \documen...

 
@percusse Otherwise you expand the {, which is not expandable anyway.
 
@MartinScharrer Yep, David caught that already (I wanted to edit but it was too late, hehe) It's nice to see my mistake hanged on the wall in this room. I don't know how long it will stay there but no worries I'm not ashamed. It's an official expandable brace request! (sounds like asking for jewellery from my husband)
 
@percusse Indeed, thanks.
I'll remove my comment since it's obsolete now.
 
6:55 PM
Anyone here which uses my tikz-timing package? Any comments on its speed?
I'm wondering if it worth porting it to PGF, i.e. using lower level commands. At the moment it uses TikZ internaly.
This shouldn't change the user interface, at least not the most part.
 
It's tikz. It's probably slowish. Not that tikz is bad, but I find that it's best used in moderation. Or just`\includegraphics`ed
 
How do you guys like fancyhdr package?
 
@PauloCereda What do you want to use it for?
 
It does its job. But I wrote what I use for it a looong time ago. And I'm not sure I understand how all those \mark{left,right} and \{left,right}mark macros work any more
 
@Werner I have a big songbook and I'd like "fancy" chapter headers. I'm stuck with the book document class, but tempted to migrate everything to memoir. Sadly, the latter only supports up to 16 indices (I need 24+) and imakidx is incompatible with it. :(
 
7:01 PM
it does have some limitations that e.g. memoir handles better. For example memoir's \makerunningwidth which can extend a header rule into the margin (for example to have page numbers written in the margin). I think that's much harder to make with fancyhdr
 
@kahen I'm really tempted to go with memoir, but I'm in a dilemma. :)
 
fancyhdr is really easy to use.
 
fancyhf{} followed by \fancyhead[<location>]{<stuff>} and \fancyfoot[<location>]{<stuff>} (going by memory here).
 
Maybe I could use splitidx with memoir, but I don't know if they are compatibles. :(
 
7:04 PM
In the above, <location> are letters to identify the location, like CE = Centre, Even.
 
That's the simple interface, @Werner. You can do much more complicated stuff: pastebin.tlhiv.org/Filvh_yM
 
@kahen Nice...
...you just added more <stuff>.
@PauloCereda: Then you can also define your own page styles easily (or redefine existing ones) using fancyhdr, if you want to switch between certain styles.
 
Well... using fancyhdr as it is by default is just horrible. WHAT WITH THE HEADER LOOKING LIKE IT WAS WRITTEN BY AN AOL LUSER. (all caps italic... why?!?)
 
Oops. :)
I'll probably write a question about memoir and indices, so memoir experts might get some juicy rep points. :)
 
7:18 PM
@DavidCarlisle So I see that you are now prodding the LuaTeX list: not just me finding the odd bug, then :-)
 
@Werner Sorry, I've seen your line only now. Maybe Joseph can send it to you.
 
Any font specialist here which can answer this: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/54962/…
 
@MartinScharrer The family versus series thing? They are not the same concept
Different NFSS axes: family (rm/sf/tt), series (md/bf), shape (up/it/sl), size (10/11/12)
 
And then there's the odd one out: sc
 
@JosephWright Thanks, I kind of know this, but can't formulate a response to this user. Anyway, the comments might not be the best place for this.
 
7:32 PM
It's \scshape right? Meaning you can't have italic small caps using NFSS macros
 
@kahen No axis for that in NFSS, as it's the 'case' axis that is hard to sort out (since most people expect to type two of the possibilities separated: upper and lower case)
@kahen It's tricky, and something to think about for XFSS (the LaTeX3 implementation of NFSS)
 
@kahen well we could have made that a separate axis but that would have meant every part of the NFSS tables would have required an extra axis and it would have been 10 years before PC users had systems capable or running latex2e.
 
@DavidCarlisle Feel free to sort out the LaTeX3 version for me :-)
Actually, @WillRobertson is doing that I hope
 
@MarcoDaniel: You around? Have a mdframed bug for you? If the frame has an display math at the top and breaks just after that, the frame width is different across the two pages:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{lipsum}
\usepackage{mdframed}
\newmdenv[%
	leftmargin=0.5cm,
	rightmargin=0.5cm,
	backgroundcolor=yellow,%
	]{Myframe}%

\begin{document}
\vspace*{16.75cm}
\begin{Myframe}
    \begin{align*}
        e &= mc^2\\
        F &= ma
    \end{align*}
    \lipsum[1]
\end{Myframe}
\end{document}
 
@JosephWright the X stands for eXtreme! :)
 
7:48 PM
@JosephWright I think we did toy with the idea of a case axis for 2e but the way the axes work it would have been vastly expensive (as almost every font combination would need substitutions anyway as the fonts are not available) and we only had a few hundred csnames left in the hash table in emtex after 2e is loaded...
 
8:08 PM
I hope mwe finds his way to TeX Live and MiKTeX. I really like people to use it when they have images in their MWE. This will avoid [demo] and \rule etc.
 
@PauloCereda What is it that suggests memoir is limited to 16 indices?
 
@MartinScharrer what a great package- another of yours?
 
@cmhughes Yes.
 
user19161
@MartinScharrer You have given life to mwe by using "his"! Very poetic!
 
@ClarkKent Sorry, it's a German thing. Things have genders in German.
 
8:10 PM
@MartinScharrer nice... any idea how long it will be until it joins TeXlive?
 
@BrentLongborough My bad. :) I actually tried. :)
 
@PeterGrill if you put an \mbox{} immediately before the \begin{align*} then it works somewhat...
 
@cmhughes I got contacted by Karl Berry about the image names on Friday. I renamed them now and reuploaded the package. If they are happy with them it might be in TeX Live tomorrow or the day after.
 
@MartinScharrer great, I look forward to it :)
 
@cmhughes That also seems to fix the spacing issue on the first line on the 2nd page.
 
8:13 PM
@PauloCereda What did it blow up with? Registers?
 
@PeterGrill cool.
@MartinScharrer can I ask for a moderator's opinion on
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Q: Thoughts on asking: How do I update my system?

cmhughesA lot of questions on the main site are fixed by updating the distribution. At present, I don't think we have a comprehensive guide to updating the various distributions- the answers are spread about over the site, and hinted at in http://tex.stackexchange.com/faq So, what does the community th...

 
@MartinScharrer It can be quite amusing when translating between German and Portuguese (for example), where the Sun is masculine and the Moon feminine.
 
@BrentLongborough Yes. :( I got the evil ! No room for a new \write. :(
 
@PeterGrill I've used the \mbox{} trick a few times with mdframed; it also happens when using list-type environments (sometimes)...
 
@cmhughes Should I post it as a question? Just wondering if the mdframed should do that automatically?
 
8:16 PM
@cmhughes I'm in favor of such a post. It should make clear the format which should be used.
 
@PeterGrill don't know :) I suppose you might call it a bug, but only because the mdframed package doesn't give its usual (and very helpful) 'bad break' warning in this case
 
@cmhughes I think is it a good idea to capture your solution so will do so, but think that it should probably be fixed in the pacakge.
 
@MartinScharrer thanks very much, I'm glad you like the idea. I'll wait until an answer is posted (and receives a suitable number of upvotes) before posting
 
@cmhughes I might post an answer later.
 
@PeterGrill sounds good- I wouldn't mind if the behaviour carried on, provided that the 'bad break' warning was typedout to the .log file
 
8:20 PM
@BrentLongborough: Sorry, I was at the phone. :( I tried with a sample file and it raised the register error, but I forgot to add the example to the question. :)
 
@PeterGrill: The discussion continues...
@Werner Well, your arrogance exceeds your ignorance. I'd expect you to at least read the xparse docs before making such claims that it can't do what it needed. There are several ways to accomplish the task from using optional arguments to using using \SplitList, \SplitArgument, \ProcessList, r, u, etc... Anyways, I don't expect to get anywhere here... the arrogance is suffocating... — Uiy 4 mins ago
 
@PauloCereda No worries. I was wondering if glossaries might work, but I think it'll have the same problem.
 
Wow!!!
 
@Werner holy smokes!
 
Cage fight!
 
8:26 PM
@PauloCereda :D
 
@Werner <3
 
@PauloCereda could we arrange the cage fight in a discussion room and post it on the blog? :)
 
I assume the 44 questions asked by Uiy was probably met with similar negativity, hence the current attitude.
Okay, surely not. Suit me up...
 
@cmhughes Oh my!!! We could even simulate some robot fighters and make a video! :D
 
@Werner Several have had similar issues.
 
8:29 PM
@PauloCereda that'd be brilliant! it'd be youtube classic
 
@Werner Obviously he's still young enough to know everything.
@PauloCereda Here in the UK, some places have cage fighting for children...
 
@BrentLongborough Yes. /breath in... /breath out...
 
@Werner You mean his attitude? He had this from the beginning!
 
@BrentLongborough Oh my!
 
8:31 PM
@Werner Posted a response comment.
 
@MartinScharrer Yes, his attitude. From the beginning of that question or the beginning of his presence here on TeX.SX?
 
@Werner Thankfully you are a very kind person. :)
 
@Werner Starting from his very first question.
 
@MartinScharrer Yikes...!
 
@PeterGrill sweet :) not sure if you wanted me to mention the mbox trick, or just wait for a better solution from the man himself? :)
 
8:34 PM
@Werner He apparently thinks the Internet in general is a manner-free zone. He wrote something like that.
 
@MartinScharrer Oh! An Anarchist...
 
@cmhughes I think you should post that as an answer as it certainly does solve the two problems I mention. And let @MarcoDaniel decide what he thinks is best as far as the package goes, or perhaps he will have another solution.
 
@Werner you replied in a more gentle manner than I would have withhold myself from! Very nice! Exactly his attitude, and his constant attitude makes me never answer/reply/comment anything from him. I am sad to say so. But I dont think it will turn out good. :(
 
@BrentLongborough Well, just not raised very well IMHO.
 
@MartinScharrer There was actually a case where I was shown a solution to one of his questions, but the person with the solution did not want o bother posting it as it might be dealing with that user...
 
8:36 PM
@MartinScharrer Hmm... I guess he'll just get frozen out back to Yahoo Amswers
 
@BrentLongborough :-) We should start posting that as an answer to his questions? :-)
 
@zeroth This is my first interaction...
@BrentLongborough ...that's epic. He'll probably throw a similar tantrum on that "Internets".
 
@Werner Are you sure you missed the previous ones?? Perhaps they were when you were on vacation, but going thru the comments of his questions should be an interesting read.
 
@PeterGrill done :) let's see what @MarcoDaniel says :)
 
Finish him! Finish him!
 
8:39 PM
@Werner I can see that you have actually answered quite a few of his questions. I guess you where lucky :)
 
@PeterGrill What? "Have you tried asking on Yahoo Answers?"? ROTFL
 
I'm playing too much videogames.
 
@BrentLongborough Yeah that was my point...
 
@PauloCereda which ones? :)
 
@PeterGrill I dare you...
 
8:40 PM
@BrentLongborough I'll pass. I have already incurred his wrath a while ago..
 
A soft answer turneth away wrath...
 
@cmhughes Evil list: Mortal Kombat, Bayonetta, Black Ops, GTA, Left 4 Dead, Ghost Recon, Condemned, Far Cry, Devil May Cry, Eat Lead, Fallout... better stop now. :P
 
@PauloCereda impressive :) have you seen Dark Souls?
 
@PauloCereda So going for Diablo in a couple of days, are you then?
 
@cmhughes Thanks. Sorry, but I replaced your image... Hope you don't mind, but all that extra white space was bugging me.
 
8:45 PM
@PeterGrill no problem :) it was kind of bugging me too :)
 
@cmhughes I had tweaked the geometry settings in the MWE for that.
 
@cmhughes Perhaps this would be of help for the future:
11
Q: How do you crop an attached pdf?

SonyOnce I posted a simple LaTeX code and the associated pdf output when I asked a question. Few minutes later some nice person edited my post by cropping the empty area of the pdf document. Since then I read the faq, went through all 88 support questions to learn how to do it without luck. Hence ...

 
@cmhughes Wow! must... play... Dark... Souls!
 
@PeterGrill how close are you to the gold editor's badge?
 
@cmhughes No idea. How do I check? I haven't made that many edits so probably not too close.
 
8:47 PM
@Werner great, thanks! I was going to ask pretty much this question, so thanks for saving me :)
 
@zeroth A friend of mine preordered the game, so I'll take a look. :P
 
@cmhughes: See Jake's answer.
 
@PauloCereda I also have that on preorder. Its the first game in ages! :)
 
@PeterGrill go to Review -> First answers, and have a look on the right
 
@zeroth Indeed! It seems a great milestone. :)
 
8:48 PM
@cmhughes I show 931 revisions...
 
@PeterGrill isn't it the same bug as got fixed after some previous question of yours and marco added another zero height full width box to the code somewhere?
 
@PauloCereda it's the sequel to Demon's Souls- very good fun :)
@Werner great, thanks :)
 
@PauloCereda yes, I just hope it will stay at the same level as D2 in terms of single player scenario! It says it does... :)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yep, I added that as a realted link:
2
Q: Inconsistent horizontal width of mdframed with only display math content

Peter GrillUpdate 2012-03-09: With an version of mdframed updated today, this is now fixed in the package and no longer requires the workaround provided below. In Excess vertical space in mdframed ending with display math environment, I had wrapped the contents on mdframed within a minipage and had inten...

but that fix does not seem to fix this issue.
 
@PeterGrill it should tell you your 'Badge Progress' down on the right hand side...
 
8:50 PM
@cmhughes It looks very nice! :)
@zeroth I just hope it doesn't lag too much. :)
 
@PauloCereda, just another excuse to pimp the computer! ;)
 
@zeroth :P
 
@cmhughes Not sure I follow...
 
@PeterGrill see image above
 
@cmhughes Ok, not sure how to get thre via clicks, but typing the URL shows I am only 34% of the way there... so have a long way to go...
 
8:56 PM
@cmhughes What Linux version is that?
 
@PeterGrill me too- only 35%...
@MartinScharrer It's 10.04LTS with the Radiance theme
 
@cmhughes Seems like we'll get there around the same time.
 
@PeterGrill I think you're right :)
 
@cmhughes @PeterGrill: It isn't even displayed for me!
 
@PeterGrill it'll be the same fix required somewhere else:-) The line that @MarcoDaniel added to fix that appears in the package in 100 places, presumably it needs to be 101
 
8:59 PM
@MartinScharrer interesting- I wonder if it's because you already have the copy editor badge, hence there is no badge progress
 
@cmhughes Ok, yes I have that badge. I confused it with 'Marshal' which you basically can't get as a moderator.
Instead I have: ♦ progress: 1 election (100% done) ;-)
 
@MartinScharrer ah, yes, if you're the moderator it doesn't make much sense to 'flag for moderator approval' :) The 'Marshal' badge is also on my todo list
 
@cmhughes I actually can flag posts (but only with reason "other" in order not to close automatically) but only do this to notify other moderators or to bookmark things which can't be done immediately.
Well, I'm off adding parent-file support to currfile ...
 
@PeterGrill which version are you using, I don't see the problem using Package: mdframed 2012/03/04 v1.4: mdframed
 
@percusse A quick tikz question. If I have two nodes, how do I draw a line between them that goes |_______| (as opposed to |------|?
 
@AlanMunn You mean starting from their lower right corner? Maybe (n1.south east) -- (n2.south west) would suffice?
 
@percusse No, what I want is something like \draw[|-|] (n1.south) -- (n2.south) but with the bars at the end flush with the line at the bottom.
 
@AlanMunn Let me try to cook up an example.
 
10:06 PM
@percusse I want the equivalent of PSTricks \ncbar command.
 
Is fncychap evil?
 
@AlanMunn Are the lines belong to the node shape or they have to be drawn as extra lines at some distance to the coordinates?
 
@PauloCereda Yes. It's useful as a repository of bad chapter header styles. :)
 
@egreg Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was this one. :)
 
@AlanMunn Ah now I get it
 
10:07 PM
@percusse Ideally they should simply be part of the connecting line (equivalent to adding an arrow).
 
@AlanMunn The easiest for me is to use a relative coordinate in between:
\begin{tikzpicture}
\node (n1) at (0,0) {Node 1};
\node (n2) at (3,0) {Node 2};
\draw[red] (n1) |- ++(0.5,-0.5) -| (n2);
\draw[blue] (n1) |- ++(0.5,2) -| (n2);
\end{tikzpicture}
 
Thanks. I think I'll post it as a real question (second in my series "How do I do this simple PSTricks thing in TikZ") :) I just thought there would be something obvious that I'm missing, but clearly not. When I do ask it you can add this as an answer.
 
@AlanMunn No problem at all. It is indeed one of the PSTricks things that gives you an extra twist. I think Altermundus is trying to convert many PSTricks commands to TikZ and probably he has an answer already :)
 
10:27 PM
@PauloCereda: Does a counter which shows the current depth of an input file make sense?
 
@MartinScharrer I can't think of a use right now. :(
Unless the user reaches the maximum depth of the filesystem.
 
@AlanMunn You can implement this relatively easily:
\tikzset{
	ncbar/.style={
		to path=(\tikztostart)
		-- ($(\tikztostart)!#1!90:(\tikztotarget)$)
		-- ($(\tikztotarget)!#1!-90:(\tikztostart)$)
		-- (\tikztotarget)
	},
	ncbar/.default=0.5cm
}
Then you can just say
\draw  (a) to [ncbar] (b);
 
@PauloCereda Maybe to figure out if an input file is used directly in the main file or as part of another input file.
But this might be a stretch.
 
\draw [red] (a) to [ncbar=-1cm] (b);
\documentclass[landscape]{article}
\usepackage{tikz}
\usetikzlibrary{calc}

\tikzset{
	ncbar/.style={
		to path=(\tikztostart)
		-- ($(\tikztostart)!#1!90:(\tikztotarget)$)
		-- ($(\tikztotarget)!#1!-90:(\tikztostart)$)
		-- (\tikztotarget)
	},
	ncbar/.default=0.5cm
}

\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}
\node [draw] (a) {A};
\node at (2,-1) [draw] (b) {B};

\draw  (a) to [ncbar] (b);
\draw [red] (a) to [ncbar=-1cm] (b);
\end{tikzpicture}
\end{document}
 
@MartinScharrer Ah indeed. :)
 
10:39 PM
@Jake Aha, so that's what Alan meant. I should have checked the PSTricks manual better!
Nice one!
 
@percusse: Yeah, I had to take a look at the manual first as well. At first I thought we were looking for a kind of asymmetric arrowhead.
 
11:03 PM
Is there a way to omit the header when using \pgfplotstabletypeset?
 
@PauloCereda There is a skip first=n option if I understand you correctly.
 
@percusse Sorry, I explained it badly. My csv has no header. :)
It's only data.
The table is typeset with a numeric index as header.
I would like to omit it.
 
@PauloCereda then header=false
 
@percusse Odd. It still prints it. :(
\pgfplotstabletypeset[dec sep align,fixed zerofill,precision=4,col sep=space,header=false]{mydata.csv}
 
@PauloCereda Can you give me a dummy data from the first lines?
 
11:11 PM
Sure. :)
1.058690791897618361e-01 4.236767150069661314e-01 -9.871862191240249329e-02 1.896410657805123634e+00
-3.688082441801866507e-01 -6.185162583308108086e-01 7.779589745526608313e-01 -1.718082361568575633e+00
-2.750126418674324058e-01 1.636150392013778487e-01 -5.227282169549336555e-01 6.038835633452429574e-01
-1.113971762033877821e+00 -1.572603551712207670e+00 -6.206581544211196011e-01 -1.960843071998005893e+00
 
@PauloCereda Let me see :)
 
I'm writing an answer and would like to use it. :)
It's the first time I use it. :)
\usepackage{pgfplotstable}
\usepackage{array}
in the preamble.
 
@PauloCereda I don't think there's an option for that, it'll always print the "names" of the columns (even if they're just 1, 2, 3, ...). I tried doing that the other day, and couldn't figure out a way (or only one that involved more work than should be necessary). It might be a good idea to open a feature request for this at sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=224188&atid=1060659. Christian's really good at quickly implementing stuff like that.
 
@PauloCereda what exactly are you indexing??
 
@Jake Wow. If you could not do that, I better stop now. :) Thanks for the info, I'll add a note to my answer about it. :) And thanks to @percusse for helping me too. :)
 
11:19 PM
For the entertainment value:
@MartinScharrer It may not be the best way but it is a way and it has other benefits. People are sick of me being rude? haha... but it's ok for someone to post arrogant comments? I'm sick and tired of all the arrogant bastards who think they know everything and if you don't do it just like they want they think they can write comments telling you just how you should do things. I think it's very arrogant for you guys to suppose that you are special and have some right to dictate to others how they should be... Of course.. I don't expect you to understand that... — Uiy 38 mins ago
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm indexing song types. :)
 
"How does this answer the question?" Is extremely arrogant... it is also very baiting. He wants to start an argument... But that's ok because he has 55k points or cause he is a regular? But when I challenge him on it I'm the one that gets the shaft... lucky for me, I could care less... I'm wrong for trying to help the op by pointing him to a resource that may solve his problem and future problems... but he's right because he has other arrogant buddies that think just like him... to bad truth isn't dictated by numbers. — Uiy 35 mins ago
 
@Werner Yeah, I would say it's probably best to just not reply to that, as frustrating as it is.
 
@PauloCereda Indeed I don't see any way right away, sorry :)
 
11:20 PM
@Jake Yes.
To be honest, I didn't mean to be arrogant with a statement like "How does this answer the question?" I just wanted to know exactly that... how? :-|
 
@PauloCereda ah. I wonder if my wielding an axe in memoir's internals broke anything...
 
11:34 PM
@PauloCereda I have a quick hack for omitting the first row but you won't like it. I'll try to find the general key for it
\documentclass[border=2mm]{standalone}
\usepackage{filecontents}
\usepackage{pgfplotstable}
\usepackage{array}

\begin{filecontents*}{mydata.csv}
1.058690791897618361e-01 4.236767150069661314e-01 -9.871862191240249329e-02 1.896410657805123634e+00
-3.688082441801866507e-01 -6.185162583308108086e-01 7.779589745526608313e-01 -1.718082361568575633e+00
-2.750126418674324058e-01 1.636150392013778487e-01 -5.227282169549336555e-01 6.038835633452429574e-01
-1.113971762033877821e+00 -1.572603551712207670e+00 -6.206581544211196011e-01 -1.960843071998005893e+00
Please add your options too, I forgot them.
 
@DavidCarlisle Don't worry, I'll test. Your answer is awesome! :)
@percusse Wow! This is fantastic! Thank you very much! :)
 
@PauloCereda Somehow it doesn't like the dec sep align key. It's getting more fun every day :)
Probably there is no column header to align the entries.
 
@percusse hehe
 
11:52 PM
@PauloCereda Indeed there is a warning in the manual about it. The vspace is making it problematic. The following is doing the job fine. (no I'm not obsessed with it! :P )
\pgfplotstabletypeset[%every head row/.style={before row={\vspace{-0.2em} } },
fixed zerofill,
precision=4,
col sep=space,
dec sep align,
columns/0/.style ={column name=},
columns/1/.style ={column name=},
columns/2/.style ={column name=},
columns/3/.style ={column name=},
]{mydata.csv}
 
@percusse Thanks thanks!
 

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