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12:34 AM
Hey, that's not fair! I hit rep cap some minutes ago!
And stole a green mark to David. :) Good night.
 
1:06 AM
any pgf gurus should have a look at this one
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Q: tcolorbox - list of listings?

user17106In a book with figures, tables and listings, I figured out that all listings and some tables and figures look better when presented in a tcolorbox. The book has the usual tables of contents: \tableofcontents{} \listoffigures{} \listoftables{} \lstlistoflistings{} but tcolorboxes have their own...

 
@egreg you stole a green tick but you were still waaaay behind me
 
1:43 AM
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Q: Verb agreement of "heaps"/"lots": uncountable nouns

ViviI am a non-native English speaker and I recently started noticing that most people do not do the correct agreement of the verb with the noun when saying "there is"/"there was"/"here is". They say, for example, There's two things in my pocket instead of There are two things in my pocket...

 
 
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3:25 AM
@DavidCarlisle sorry, I was editing as you posted your edit to the question. I am not sure my version is the best... I won't mind if you roll back my edit.
 
3:39 AM
@Vivi the long formula one? I didn't do anything to that other than hit {}
 
@DavidCarlisle OK... I changed a few other things. That code is still a mess, though. I pasted in my emacs and I am getting all sorts of weird symbols where there should be a space. Then the symbols appear and disappear! Still unable to compile that code...
 
@Vivi It didn't look like the type of code one should attempt to run at 3 in the morning so I didn't get that far:-)
 
4:05 AM
@Vivi thanks:-) time for bed I think.
 
4:25 AM
@DavidCarlisle Good night :)
 
 
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7:29 AM
You might be idle. If so, lets think of it: mechanics.stackexchange.com/questions/4960/…
 
 
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9:29 AM
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A: How to implement a \tomorrow in latex

ADPput your system clock forward by 1 day prior to compiling, then put it back... ;-( Up-vote me if you think this is the worst hack of all time.

TBH I'm not OK with this answer. :(
@egreg:
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A: What is truecm?

egregTeX has an internal integer register called \mag whose value is initialized to 1000 and can be changed before a page is shipped out. If one sets \mag=1200 all dimensions will be increased by 20%. More precisely they are multiplied by \mag and divided by 1000, unless they are specified with th...

So I think operation "steal green tick from David" was a success. :)
 
Lecture time; I hit rep cap twice today. :)
@PauloCereda Yes, mission accomplished. :)
 
@egreg Oh no! It's not fair, I'm still upvoting you. :)
@egreg :)
 
9:48 AM
@JosephWright tex.stackexchange.com/questions/87460/… got migrated here and the OP asked the same question again (Werner answered one and I answered the other, do we just close one as dup or can they be merged?)
 
@DavidCarlisle Link for I'll merge as there exactly the same
 
thanks
 
10:00 AM
@PauloCereda he's still got white gaps, I think he needs to steal more green
 
10:21 AM
Good morning
 
@unNaturhal 'ello.
 
@PauloCereda this is not an answer of course ;) and, Hello!
 
@tohecz Hi Tom! :)
Our first bug with a patch. :)
Well, "bug" is probably a strong word. :)
 
btw, don't you know why my university has so slow system for collecting and evalutating academic work results?
 
10:44 AM
I didn't understand why carrying a passanger is forbidden in the riding safety guideline until I see the following photo.
 
@GarbageCollector fuck ... i mean ... what?
 
@tohecz It should be safe for the passenger as there is an air bag.
 
11:00 AM
Poor baby ._.
Maybe.. I have a problem with stressed letters.. à è ì ò ù...
 
11:46 AM
@unNaturhal In what way
 
@JosephWright Oh, I was worrying because my accented letters were not displayed, but I fount that I can use the package inputenc :)
But now I has another problem ._. my keyboard has italian form factor, and I don't know where to found the backtick symbol..
 
@PauloCereda Well, it is, since BibTeX allows for spaces before the key. I have to check also usebib, but since the key is read as a "key-value" pair there should be no problem (keyval strips leading spaces).
 
@egreg do you use an Italian keyboard? (see @unNaturhal's comment above)
 
@DavidCarlisle Of course not! "Buy a keyboard having any layout you wish, as long as it is International (aka US)".
@unNaturhal What operating system are you using?
 
@egreg I suspected as much:-)
 
11:59 AM
@egreg Win7 on a laptop without numpad :/
 
@unNaturhal @egreg loves windows (and windows users)
 
@egreg Ok. :)
 
@unNaturhal do you want the backtick to do \foo here or for use in TeX?
 
@unNaturhal Sorry: this is a combo I wouldn't even look at. :) Seriously, if you use Babel, you can input the back tick for the opening quotes as "' and the double back tick with "".
 
@DavidCarlisle I discovered that exist backtick character 30 minutes ago reading about TeX.. but it should be useful for some things..
@egreg Don't worry :) I solved using that package in latex, and 'till now I never needed backtick :)
 
12:05 PM
@unNaturhal If you need the back quote for "macho programmer" usages (such as in \catcode`\~=\active, then you can say \catcode\lq\~=\active
Of course also \lq\lq this text is in double quotes\rq\rq would work.
And for quotes in text the package csquotes can solve many problems
 
@egreg Thank you :)
 
@egreg: new version updated to CTAN. :)
 
 
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2:51 PM
Meow
 
@PauloCereda Bark
 
@tohecz :)
 
btw, did you know that if you draw a vector picture in W@&#, whatever you do, you cannot convert it as a vector to PDF?
 
@tohecz Did you try printing it in a PDF driver?
 
@tohecz you should always believe
 
3:07 PM
@PauloCereda yes I did, well, the problem is that it's DOCX and I have only W@&#XP, but my collegue sent me a version "printed to PDF" -- fonts are ok, everything is ok, just the drawings are screwed. So I think that the following journal issue sees 2 articles with very bad drawings
 
@tohecz I just tried drawing a shape in word 2010 and saving as pdf and it appears to be vector (diagonals stay smooth whatever zoom in acrobat) didn't actually check pdf contents
 
@DavidCarlisle ok, strange. Well, I don't so much care because I cannot do more. The authors are obliged to send all figures seperate.
 
@tohecz Can't you convert to .zip and extract the WMF, then convert that?
 
anyways, coffeetime
 
@tohecz Copy the shape, paste in Inkscape. See if it works.
 
3:54 PM
Oh damn.. I'm going crazy ._.
 
 
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5:21 PM
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Q: very simple left align document class

AntónioIs this document class an article? i cant get it left aligned. Haldane.pdf How can i achieve this simple style? Thanks1

TL?
Of course, don't all pile in and vote
 
Writer's Chat going on now in The Overlook. Come chat about reading, writing, whatever you fancy.
In case you guys like writing as much as you like beautifully typeset documents.
 
@KitFox Thanks for the kind invitation. :)
@JosephWright Think so.
 
5:37 PM
@egreg's after my green ticks again. I spot the tactic of answering the question the OP should have asked rather than the one asked. (Not to mention making an answer that is 100 times longer than the accepted one.)
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6:02 PM
@DavidCarlisle Only fine connoisseurs appreciate minimalist answers
 
6:23 PM
Hello @all. What do you think about tex.stackexchange.com/questions/87521/… ? See also comments of @tohecz, me and reactions of OP as well as the edit history. Shouldn't it be closed then according to the question given by tohecz? (I flagged the latest comment as too rude.)
 
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Q: Is my developer's home-brew password security right or wrong, and why?

nallenscottMy developer, let's call him Dave, insists on using a home-brew script for hashing passwords. See Dave's proposal below. I have already researched and created a fairly standard protocol built around Bcrypt. My protocol is not new, but is based on tried and tested implementations that support m...

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A: Is my developer's home-brew password security right or wrong, and why?

GdDOK, fire Dave. At the very least hit him with a very large clue-bat. Open protocols are good because anyone can look and attempt to find vulnerabilities and structural problems, and implement fixes. The visibility improves the protocol. Good security means that everyone can know how the system wo...

I love this answer. :O
 
6:39 PM
It's a good idea to use classicthesis.tex to write my thesis?
 
@PauloCereda Don't you get a little worried that none of the answers even agree on at least one point?
 
@percusse Sadly, that's security. Everything is has a different view on everything. :(
 
@unNaturhal Use suftesi.
 
@egreg is it included in texlive?
 
@unNaturhal Yes, of course. Give it a try; it's more easily customizable than classicthesis. And more supported.
 
6:44 PM
@PauloCereda I'm not sure if they really get the entropy concept if they mean the same thing as the physics one but anyway.
 
@egreg Oh, this is a great news :) I have to write just a small thesis.. it is not a final-degree-thesis, but for a single exam. I will try it :)
 
@egreg Speaking of tex.stackexchange.com/questions/87521/… You are childish, too, when you change OP’s well selected words! ;-)
 
@Speravir Let's try teaching the OP how to behave.
 
@egreg Yes, I think, this is another user to keep an eye on.
 
@Speravir There is nothing fundamentally wrong with the question but we are pushing the user to act in a predefined way. And it would just make things worse.
 
7:01 PM
@percusse Some minutes later I’m not sure, if I mistook one user with another. And it’s not the question, but the silly reaction I meant. But you are right must trying to calm myself.
 
@Speravir I think it's the holiday season showing its effect :)
 
@egreg Oh, the documentation says that it is for "Ph.D of humanistic majors".. should I worry about this since my thesis is for an engineering class?
 
@unNaturhal Don't worry.
 
@egreg Ok!
 
@unNaturhal Load amsmath and amssymb and live happy.
 
7:07 PM
@egreg Got it! I don't know what I'm doing but I trust about you
 
I've completely lost track of the lottery list and it became a monster.
 
@Speravir TBH I don't find such an edit really fortunate. It was clarified in the comments so it would be enough to ask OP to make the question more specific
 
@tohecz Yes, next time I will try to remember.
 
7:39 PM
@egreg -190? Is that Psmith again?
 
is \fontsize a good way to make text have a specific size?
 
Holy ****. Hand kerning is hard
I'm doing text via paint.net and alex484000.deviantart.com/art/LIMBO-Font-325542196
And it is hard. I want TeX :(
I'm an idiot. I could have made that far easier by pasting the letters into position THEN resizing them as a batch. headdesk
 
@CBenni well it works but it's a bit low level, depends where you are doing it, for example using \fontsize instead of \section is wrong:-)
 
well obviously ;) I just wanted to have my header size to be exactly 11pt
 
How is my kerning on the bottom bit?
 
7:53 PM
@CBenni Yes, if you find yourself using \fontsize twice with the same parameters, you very likely miss some concept
 
but for some reason, it didnt change anything at all
but \normalsize works too
 
@CBenni then define \newcommand\halflarger{\fontsize{11}{13}\selectfont} and use \halflarger
 
wait that actually makes a difference?
 
sorry, I meant (see edit)
 
mmh... I dont get the difference; What exactly does \selectfont do here?
 
7:56 PM
Friends, our next interviewee (for January) will be probably Marc van Dongen.
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:)
 
@PauloCereda Who is he?
 
@CBenni (I hope I'm correct) \fontsize modifies the LaTeX parameter value, but \selectfont makes it apply
 
@CBenni It selects the font:-) with the parameters set up with \fontsize (and friends)
 
try to use other values like {20}{23} to check thath it works, change from 10 to 11 is not much noticable
 
@Canageek A TeXnician, one of our members. He has published a book on TeX and Friends and made a very nice movie on LaTeX. He has some great questions ans answers around here. And there's a thread in Meta which holds a contest to win a copy of his book. :)
He's also very active on c.t.t. :)
 
8:01 PM
@tohecz thank you ;)
 
@PauloCereda Cool
 
@Canageek By the way, pick two numbers in the meta thread. :)
 
@CBenni yw.
 
and WHY the heck does mathptmx make my \infty commands turn out as °...
 
@PauloCereda It will cost you more to ship to Canada, and I'll let someone more deserving get it
 
8:12 PM
@CBenni Hmm, can you give us some code? Looks like a missing \usepackage[T1]{fontenc} or so.
 
@Speravir i had that, too but it didnt matter anyways. I dont like that package
if you go \fontfamily{Times New Roman}\small it prints small TNR text. If you go \small\fontfamily{Times New Roman} it outputs some text junk (in TNR) and then proceeds to use the standard font and normalsize
i should update my packages maybe ^.^
 
@CBenni I repeat: Please provide some code. So others can help much better.
 
@Speravir Not necessary, I did not need to use Times New Roman; but thank you anyways ^.^
 
Do you guys think it's possible to do some sort of actual blurring using TikZ or the like?:
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Q: Blur the text so it's not readable

Tomas LyckenOn a related note to How do I make my document look like it was written by an Cthulhu worshipping madman?, I want to create a LaTeX command that blurs the text so it's unreadable. Unfortunately, whatever I google to get ideas on how to do this, I find forum posts from everyone and his aunt havin...

I just want to know right now if it's even possible
 
well it has an accepted answer, doesnt it?
 
8:25 PM
@CBenni Yes, but that's not actual blurring.
 
@TorbjørnT. true. But it comes very close :D
 
8:37 PM
right, what @TorbjørnT. said
not to mention I can still read it
 
@DavidCarlisle It's the second time in a few days: it seems that some user got enthusiatic and doesn't like to see 0 score answers of mine. But the votes he/she gives are too near in time to each other and the system spots it. I hit rep cap before 1 am UTC, but this was reversed some hours later; but the correct status (having rep cap every day) was reestablished before noon. :)
 
@Gnintendo that means you worship Cthulu several times a day aswell?
 
I do not read Lovecraft or any of the multitude of authors who have written about his universe.
 
@AlanMunn That should be default in LaTeX
@Gnintendo Your loss
 
I don't have time these days.
If any of you are capable of an answer that uses actual blurring, I would be grateful
 
8:50 PM
@Canageek That's a losing battle. Just hang onto 'zed' though. :)
 
@Gnintendo Andrew Stacey has a package for individual letter tracing.
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Q: Outlining (filling) glyph outline with text in TikZ

przemocOriginal question Is there any automated or semi-automated way of tracing outermost outline or whole path of letters in TikZ? That I would be able (e.g. by using positioned nodes) to draw a letter using a letters, like shown below in my ascii-art (agreed, not really an art in this case): a...

But with some confidence I can say that with TikZ it's not possible without ridiculous computational overhead.
I think it's doable with Asymptote but I don't know much about it.
 
I don't really care how it's done
 
@percusse Something, that’s more amusing: Procrasti-Nation, Our Common Home.
 
@Speravir I think I carry the passport of that land.
 
@percusse I've asked for it, but the delivery has been delayed. :)
 
9:01 PM
@percusse :-D Yes, I guessed that! ;-)
 
@Gnintendo Use Andrew's stuff then
@egreg hehehe
 
@egreg yes I noticed you got back up, shame: if you went back 190 every day, we'd have a better chance of catching up.
 
@Speravir At first also I thought about the gaps in the braces, but reading the code showed the incredible reality!
@DavidCarlisle Actually it was an even count: –19 + 19 = 0; if you count there are thirty-nine +10 marks.
@DavidCarlisle But you're still ahead for the week.
 
@egreg which is the correct state
 
@DavidCarlisle Let's see at the end of the week. In a five day test match you count at the end, don't you?
 
9:08 PM
@egreg It’s embarassing for me, though! I don’t know an English saying, but there will exist one, in German there is “Man sieht den Wald vor Bäumen nicht.”
 
@egreg well perhaps, in some games you try to hit the opposing player on the head with a projectile missile
 
@Speravir "not seeing the forest for the trees"
@DavidCarlisle Can you do that in cricket?
 
@egreg Oops, the same saying?!
@percusse Funny also “population 7 billion” … assuming US billion
 
@Speravir My knowledge of German is elementary, but Wald and Baum are forest and tree, I believe. :)
 
@egreg Aah, you made a translation … and you are right!
 
9:18 PM
@Speravir It's the same in English: You can't see the forest for the trees.
(Of course I can't read the following comments either.)
 
@Speravir No, I looked for the saying, but I had heard it before.
 
@AlanMunn Thanks for confirmation. But comments (plural)?
 
@Speravir Well egreg made two which made mine kind of redundant.
 
I'm on the train so the connection is a little funky...
 
btw, guys, have you noticed that your 4 gravatars suit well to each other? (and sorry for this warm-colour disturb...)
 
9:24 PM
I've recently found out that mine is green (but not red).
 
@egreg The saying in fact not exactly fits to my mistake. In GDR East-German artists had some better: They wrote in poem/song texts phrases they called “green elephant” – expecting that this by censors were spotted and hoping these oversaw other not so obvious parts.
@percusse Strange. You gravatar looks different here!
 
@Speravir I've seen something of this kind with referees (in the field of science, I mean).
 
@egreg Yes, such an approach should work in several fields.
 
@DavidCarlisle Hi
 
@Speravir That's the old one. The system gives me randomly new ones.
I was just showing of my nice rep point at that time.
 
9:40 PM
Hi everyone. Is there a way to only slightly separate two rows in a longtable?
 
@percusse I don't really understand how this happens, since gravatars are supposed to be email hashes.
 
@Costi \\[1ex] should work
 
@tohecz Me too. I've tried everything but for some time the system didn't like whatever I've tried. Maybe they were testing something else.
 
@egreg thank you, although it separates with a big space.
 
@Costi what egreg said or if you want to open up the whole table play with arraystretch or extrarowheight
 
9:42 PM
gotta get off the train....
 
@Costi 1ex is just for example; you can use \\[2pt] or any length you think fit
 
@egreg nice!
 
@Costi 1ex should be about the height of an x note egreg maint add [1ex] to an existing row end not add an extra \\[1ex] which would make a blank row
 
@DavidCarlisle in fact even adding \[.1pt] does not make the space smaller. I haven't understood how to make it smaller though.
 
In the sport of cricket, a bouncer (or bumper) is a type of delivery, usually bowled by a fast bowler. It is pitched short so that it bounces on the pitch well short of the batsman and rears up to chest or head height (or even higher) as it reaches the batsman. On October 29, 2012 The International Cricket Council made amendments on bouncers in ODIs. The ICC announced an increase in the number of permissible short balls (above shoulder and below head height) in an over in One-Day Internationals. There was no change to the bouncer rule for the Tests or Twenty20 Internationals. Usage Boun...
@Costi smaller than what? if you have a&b&c\\[1pt] then the space after that row is (usually) a bit more than if you have a & b& c \\
 
9:52 PM
@DavidCarlisle now I understand, thank you
 
10:06 PM
@DavidCarlisle I like beamers more. :)
 
10:27 PM
@egreg :-) meanwhile I'm off collecting pgf points again
 
@DavidCarlisle Are you studying the PGF manual at night?
 
btw, another MWE fail:
@FloatingPointZilch If you are loading tocloft, you can simply say \setlength\cftafterloftitleskip{0pt} (instead of 0pt use the desired length). — Gonzalo Medina 5 hours ago
 
@egreg No I suspect I'm using it all wrong anyway(actually the question is pretty close to a duplicate but not quite, otherwise I'd never have managed it, just copied the keys from last time:-)
 
10:53 PM
@DavidCarlisle Why would they put a limit on the number of balls of a certain type? Do you know what the motivation behind the rule was?
 
@AlanMunn They felt that the rules were too simple. :P
 
@egreg I'm sure the real reason is related to economics, but I'm curious to hear what the official motivation was.
 
@AlanMunn because if the bowler just spends all day bowling dangerous, unplayable balls, people get bored watching and stop paying
 
@DavidCarlisle I was doing precisely the same thing but you beat me to it with the calendar question :) I think you can shorten it a tiny bit should I edit your answer?
 
@percusse yes sure (or give another one) I have no idea what half of it means:-)
 
11:02 PM
@percusse Did you manage to get off the train at the right stop?
 
@DavidCarlisle Bingo.
 
@egreg Yep, I think I recognize the house I'm in. :-)
Sometimes it's not happening :)
 
@DavidCarlisle In baseball the remedy for that is the 'walk', so a batter can get on base (and therefore have the potential to score a run) after 4 balls that are outside the strike zone.
 
@percusse I too sometimes have to hurry in putting away the computer because the train is stopping. In winter it's worse because you have to put on your jacket (and there's the risk of fetching another one's).
 
@egreg Ah yes, I usually forget to turn it off and when I'm home there is some heat rushing off the backpack.
 
11:06 PM
Uh, oh! A comparison between baseball and cricket. :)
 
Blernsball!
 
@PauloCereda Probably the rules are a mix of baseball and cricket and you need at least three PhD's for merely grasping at them.
 
@egreg It's a Futurama reference. They got baseball and jazzed it up. :)
 
@egreg But @DavidCarlisle seems to have picked up his bat and ball and left. :)
 
@AlanMunn You mentioned baseball. :)
 
11:15 PM
@AlanMunn sorry I was just looking for any of egreg's answers I could downvote
@PauloCereda I think baseball is the American name for rounders isn't it?
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, sorry to drag you back from such an important task.
@DavidCarlisle I doubt @PauloCereda has a clue what rounders is. It's more British than cricket.
 
@AlanMunn No idea.
 
@PauloCereda that's what wikipedia is for (It's a game played by elementary school children:-)
 
@PauloCereda Don't worry, David's trying to bait me. :)
 
@AlanMunn would I?:-)
 
11:20 PM
@DavidCarlisle Is it in Barsa? (@AlanMunn: let's see if David gets the reference now) :)
 
@DavidCarlisle But not being American, I have only an anthropological interest in baseball, although I've played it more than I have cricket.
@PauloCereda He and I both.
 
@AlanMunn Here:
Barsa is a famous encyclopedia from Latin America. It is widely known in Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Venezuela and Mexico. It has printed versions in Portuguese and Spanish with 9 volumes each and 2,842 pages. Barsa also has a multimedia version. External links * [http://brasil.planetasaber.com/default.asp Barsa Brasil - Portuguese] * [http://www.hispanicasaber.com/Hispanica.asp Barsa Hispanica - Spanish]
 
@PauloCereda resultados da busca "rounders"
Foram encontrados
0 documentos
@PauloCereda clearly a useless encyclopaedia, stick with wikipedia
 
@DavidCarlisle Does anybody actually play rounders? I never encountered it in England growing up. We used to play French cricket, but I don't think anyone played rounders.
 
@AlanMunn yes, played in school a bit, i don't think it's ever played competitively (between schools) but I should think most (or many or some) english primary and pre- schools have a few rounders bats lying around for the odd PE lesson
 
11:32 PM
I played backyard cricket.
 
@PauloCereda Did that involve pulling the legs off of chirping insects?
 
@AlanMunn Puhahahaha
 
@AlanMunn o.O
aaah cricket now I get it.
LOL
@DavidCarlisle: You better behave, or I'm gonna tell @egreg to steal more green ticks from you. :)
 
@PauloCereda I always behave
(just not always behave well)
 
@DavidCarlisle <3
 
11:44 PM
This may also be an issue in Lua(La)TeX and Xe(La)TeX: Security update for Windows lets fonts disappear.
 
FUCK OFF BANKS!!!!!!!!
 
@Speravir Provided you have Windoze. ;-)
 
@egreg Provided someone, who asks a question with such an issue, has Windows …
 
@tohecz Tell us how you really feel.
 
like that someone got 300 EUR from me by card transactions that "were unsuccessful". So I have -300 EUR and no train tickets for it.
even worse, it is a Czech credit card, I paid in France, I'm in France so phones to my bank will be expensive, and I speak very little French to come to anyone from the company and claim my money
that all together with a fact that I'm still not inscribed to the university, which can easily mean that I'll never see my December 760 EUR
this is what I call fucked up times
the fact that my only shoes I have here have a large hole in them seems to be a minor problem now
 
11:54 PM
@tohecz Usually this gets sorted up. Was it an Internet transaction?
 
@egreg yes
 
@tohecz Sorry to hear that.
 
I know, but after likely losing 760 bucks I'm really annoyed
I'm feeling like taking everything I can find and smashing it into the wall
the thing is that I'd likely end in the neighboring apartment
I should go to bed but I extremly hate going to bed in such a mood. However, I would not sleep well at all, whatever I do
 

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