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6:45 AM
Now the results are official: Winners are Stefan Kottwitz, Joseph Wright, and Martin Scharrer
Congratulations to @StefanKottwitz and @JosephWright for their reelection!
 
7:10 AM
And congratulations to @MartinScharrer for joining the moderator team
 
7:51 AM
@JosephWright Thanks!
 
8:47 AM
@Seamus: You asked yesterday about \documentclass{beamer}\usepackage[load=named]{siunitx}\begin{document}\frame{\S­­I{10}{\celsius}}\end{document}
@Seamus: I worked out what is up - you are forcing version 1 behaviour with load=named. Try removing that and all should be well.
 
 
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10:46 AM
@JosephWright: Say, do users get a notification when someone suggest an edit to their answers?
@MatthewLeingang: I'm almost at 7777 now (7770). It's a pity that I can't reach it without downvoting something! (which I wont do). I will wait for 8888 then :-)
 
*is considering checking in to The Priory to get over missing his diamond*
@MartinScharrer: So that means that you are world executable, no?
 
@AndrewStacey Sorry?
Oh, now I get it!
As long no one sets the sticky bit on me :-)
@AndrewStacey Thanks again for passing on the '♦'
 
I feel like Clark Kent when he gave up his super-powers. I'm only now realising all the things that I miss - as well as my mod-link, as I'm not yet at 10k I don't get the tools link either, *sob*
*throws some jam at Martin*: There you go, I've set the sticky bit.
 
11:48 AM
@JosephWright Thanks! I thought I needed load=named to have \celsius work at all?
 
@Seamus No, not in version 2
@MartinScharrer No I don't think so
 
@JosephWright I'm just asking because of the current suggested edit. Should that be better passed on to the original author as a comment so that he can decide by himself what to do?
 
@MartinScharrer I'm also unsure on that one, hence not doing anything. Perhaps a comment would be best.
 
12:10 PM
@JosephWright Ok, I added the comment.
 
"First eliminated candidate" should be another election badge, right?
 
 
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1:34 PM
@Seamus Yes, it really should be.
There should also be a "Reelected" badge!
 
There's reelly too many es in reeeelected.
 
I just tried and failed on this q. Trickier than it looks! tex.stackexchange.com/questions/12459/…
@AndrewStacey. Isn't the Queen's spelling reëlected?
 
@MatthewLeingang Sure, if she's elvish
 
1:58 PM
@MatthewLeingang It is actually easy if you now the internals of graphics a little. I was studying it and graphicx a few week ago for my adjustbox package.
 
Exactly. I do not know the internals of graphicx, not even a little. I started digging around in the source code and ended up with cr@ss@d ey@s
Plus I looked at my calendar and realized at 8:30am that I had 90minutes left of unscheduled time in the working day and needed to get to work!
 
2:42 PM
@MatthewLeingang I know that feeling. I added an answer by myself now.
 
3:32 PM
Hi. building a debian package for pgf for 2.10 is actually quite easy. there are questions about pgf 2.10 installation on this site. should i add an answer to one of those?
and if so, which one?
the debian maintainer might upload his own package soon, dunno
 
@MartinScharrer 90 minutes turned into 60 minutes thanks to a surprise visit from a student. There goes the day.
 
@MatthewLeingang: it's a tough world. you teach maths?
 
@MatthewLeingang I'm in my final PhD year so I don't have to do teaching assistance any more ! YES!
 
@MartinScharrer Hu?
 
 
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6:15 PM
@MartinScharrer if you go into academia then your respite from teaching will be very short-lived!
@FaheemMitha that is correct
@MartinScharrer Thanks @MartinScharrer. Now I can delete my failed answer
 
6:49 PM
@Faheem: Yes, I think that that is the right question to add that information to.
 
 
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8:03 PM
Out of votes yet again
 
8:52 PM
Simpleminded question. i'm trying to use tikzexternal.sty. if i do \usepackage{tikzexternal} it works, but if i just include it bombs. am i missing something obvious?
 
@FaheemMitha \usepackage sets the catcode of @ correctly, whereas \input does not
@FaheemMitha Using \include would be a bad idea - I hope you did not mean that
 
@JosephWright: no, i literally included the text of tikzexternal.sty
since the journal wants one file i think
one latex file i think
 
@FaheemMitha Catcode of @ is the most likely issue
 
@JosephWright: any way around this, or do i need to use \usepackage?
 
Put \makeatletter before the code and \makeatother after it
 
8:56 PM
@JosephWright: thanks. i'll try it
@JosephWright: nope. doesn't work
 
@FaheemMitha Error message?
 
The comment at the top says: % This file is intended to be distributed or even inlined into a file
% when a document needs to be typeset on a system that does not have
% pgf/TikZ installed.
@JosephWright: sec
ERROR: Undefined control sequence.

--- TeX said ---
\tikzpicture #1\end #2->\detf
\tikzexternal@laTeX@collectpicture@@ {#2}\ifx ...
l.129 \end{tikzpicture}
via auctex
maybe i should not bother people here and instead ask on the pgf users ml
 
@FaheemMitha No, it's fine to ask. I wonder about the idea of including this particular file, when Tikz is lots of files anyway - not sure of the benefit
@FaheemMitha Probably one for the main tex.sx site, with a link to your full log file
 
@JosephWright: this is for the case where tikz/pgf is not installed
for example, when uploading to a journal
typically they have fits with nonstandard packages
the idea is to switch seamlessly between using pgf and not having pgf
if i understand the intent correctly
 
@FaheemMitha Ah, I see what you are up to
 
9:01 PM
It seems Christian Feuersaenger anticipated this use case. per the comment above
 
@FaheemMitha: Could you not just make PDFs out of your tikzpictures by yourself and include them as images? The standalone class can help you with this task. Then the journal doesn't need TikZ to compile the document.
 
ok. i'll try to work up a test case. sigh. was hoping this would go smoothly
@MartinScharrer: sure. i could do that. i'd have to have two separate versions of my file. with this tikzexternal.py i don't have to do that.
 
@FaheemMitha Could you post or send the log?
(joseph.wright@morningstar2.co.uk)
 
@JosephWright: sure. should I have a self contained test case, or just the log?
 
Plus the .tex file, of course :-)
 
9:03 PM
@FaheemMitha: You don't need to have two separate versions.
 
@FaheemMitha Send both, and I'll take a quick look.
 
@JosephWright: do you want a reduced version, or as is?
a reduced version will take time
 
@FaheemMitha If you are happy to send 'as is', I can take a look. The problem should be in a short section which I can predict to some extent :-)
 
@Joseph: ok. give me a few minutes
 
@Martin @ Joseph @all At meta there was some talk for some coding competitions, I am thinking that I got more rep than I deserve, what would you guys think of me posting some difficult questions with heavy bounties as competitions?
 
9:08 PM
@YiannisLazarides I don't think bounties will work properly in Meta.
 
@Martin I was not thinking of posting it at Meta, but rather on the normal site and maybe promote the post at meta.
 
@YiannisLazarides I think it is a good idea. But I'm not sure if I find time to participate. At the moment I'm rather busy with my PhD.
 
@YiannisLazarides: The meta question you referred to (is it this one?)
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Q: Idea for TeX, LaTeX & Friends contests

Martin TapankovI've been thinking about this for some time, and Will Robertson seems to have a similar idea to get stuff done by others, rewarding them with reputation. So, in short: part with your hard-earned reputation to organize a mini-contest with a bounty prize on a topic/package you are interested in --...

 
@Martin Yes!
@Martin Tapankov yes!
 
@YiannisLazarides: This one didn't get all that much support, but that's probably I originally had a different idea in mind.. but I can try to reformulate it a bit to conform better to current SE policy
 
9:14 PM
@Martin I am glad I got over mine donkey years ago:)
 
@YiannisLazarides: BTW, if you use only my first name, the other Martin also gets notified.. that's a bit confusing for both of us
You can use <Tab> completion to quickly pick up the one you need
 
@MartinTapankov thanks didn't realize you can do that:)
 
@YiannisLazarides: That's better :-) Watch the meta for a new discussion soon
 
@MartinTapankov Thanks! I will.
 
9:31 PM
@JosephWright: message sent. thanks
is there an easy way of seeing the whole name of the person you are replying to?
i usually hover the cursor over the name
 
@FaheemMitha Start typing with the '@' and press tab for the options
@FaheemMitha You can also reply to a message using the little arrow that appears when you hover the mouse over the right-hand end of the message bar
 
@JosephWright hmm
ok. i see
@JosephWright i meant situations where you had multiple Martins. then the tab thing doesn't really help
Though the arrow thing works
 
10:16 PM
@FaheemMitha If you press tab multiple times, you cycle through the names
 
@YiannisLazarides: Now on your favourite meta:
http://meta.tex.stackexchange.com/questions/1074/tex-se-contests-revisited
 

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