2016 Ask Ubuntu Moderator Election

Videonauth

00:04

seems so

Severus Tux

03:08

Hello :D

Everyone will answer Q&A within 4 days right ?

before the primary closes

Or is it optional ?? !

hm.... This is really strange. I can **see** candidate's current vote status. This will encourage new users to go with the crowd... vote for the candidate with highest votes.
Whats the reason behind this ?

jokerdino

@SeverusTux I think you will be emailed to attend a town hall of sorts where you get to answer questions.

never mind, they have changed the procedure. Answer it on meta I suppose.

Severus Tux

04:11

Oh... my ! I am in the wrong room..
I was wondering why this is so.. silent here ;-P

Seth

05:22

@SeverusTux The primary is only used to sort the top 10 candidates to advance to the election phase. After the primary you will vote again in the actual election with 3 choices. Then votes will not be visible at all.

Fiksdal

06:41

?

One guy is disqualified now, is that because he got too many downvotes already

@Seth If I were to give my 2 cents (or rather my 0.02 VND) I'd say that it would be better for votes to be hidden, even during the primary. But I guess this system is probably the same for all SE sites? @SeverusTux

andrew.46

07:07

Evening all...

Hmmmm.. why is Videonauth not here?

edwinksl

good question

andrew.46

@edwinksl Watching the election?

edwinksl

yup it looks fun from the outside

andrew.46

It is fun :). I am new to this process and so far it has not been too bruising

Second stage shows some runaway favourites

edwinksl

07:28

yeah

adadion

09:19

Hi, just coming by to say, "Good Luck! To all candidate..."

Videonauth

09:45

@andrew.46 now I'm here, had one of those rare occasions where real life interferres this morning :)

Denja

10:11

Hello all

I would like to ask.. what where the recent "clean up" that one moderator participant is referring to?

I'd also like to ask all participants what they intend to do about cleaning obsolete, recurring questions for this site to be usable?

Thank you all for doing a great job at making this site better!

Byte Commander

10:28

@Denja There was a script running that aimed to reverse votes between users that looked like target serial votes. In my opinion it reversed far too much, but that's debatable.

Videonauth

@Denja Sadly there is no way to prevent recurring questions, especially of topics where Ubuntu not shines so much. Only thing we as Users and in the end as moderators can do is closing them, reviewing flags and so make every closed question (duplicate reasons) a new entry point for finding the right information. In the worst case only thing that could be considered to merge such questions with existing ones

Byte Commander

@Denja I don't fully get what your question is about, would you mind giving an example, please?

andrew.46

10:44

@Videonauth Good to see you again :)

Elelction process rolling on...

Election

Videonauth

yep

andrew.46

@adadion Thank you :)

Denja

Let me clarify and give you one example and we can discuss this further after work..
lots of time i find obsolete answers (or unupdated for my version) so I would like to flag them for not providing a useful answer or or flag with something like not compatible with my version but i can't do something about it through flag yet!

terdon

11:04

@Denja Why don't you just update the answer to your version then?

There's nothing wrong with it, it was correct when posted. I don't see how a flag could work here. Also, in most cases, an answer for 14.04 is still valid for 16.04 and, when not, it will often point you in the right direction.

Byte Commander

@Denja Just because an answer does not work for the newest version of Ubuntu does not mean it's obsolete. It could still work for any other still supported release. And even if all applicable releases reached end-of-life, it still is a valid answer and deleting it is not a valid option. Instead, it should be edited to include a bold note that this answer only works for releases X to Y.

Ideally there should be other answers that address newer releases. Simply upvote those after having verified that they work and edit them to also include a bold note mentioning the releases this answer is working for.

However, please do not downvote / flag as low quality/not an answer / vote to delete answers that were valid, but are no longer applicable to newer releases.

As I said, the way to go is to edit them to add a little hint that it was only working for a specific set of releases. Maybe you can add a link to another answer that works for the remaining ones.

Let me see if I find a good example where this has been done...

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A: Unity doesn't load, no Launcher, no Dash appears

For 12.10 and below: Press Ctrl+Alt+T for a terminal and run ccsm, then re-enable your 'Unity' plugin. You also may then need to run a unity --replace.

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A: Unity doesn't load, no Launcher, no Dash appears

In 13.04: unity --replace is deprecated. Instead, use the following: dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ unity --reset-icons &disown Reboot if it doesn't work right away.

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A: How to enable hibernation?

If this answer does not work in Ubuntu 13.10, see here for an alternative answer You can follow official documentation here. Hibernation was disabled on 12.04 for machines that are not certified with Ubuntu. In order to enable hibernation you need to test whether it works correctly by running...

Jacob Vlijm

12:08

@Denja could you link an example? Often version- specific tags are unnecessarily used. Apart from that, my upper neighbours answered it already :) ^

terdon

12:26

@JacobVlijm s/often/damn near always/

Byte Commander

:)

Jacob Vlijm

@terdon yeah, pretty much.

Byte Commander

Sigh...

This mod questionnaire is growing longer and longer and I'm still only at 6. Is that a bad sign?

I can already fill 3 screens with it, probably it will take 4 in the end.

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander mod questionnaire? I don't see your answers yet.

Byte Commander

I'm still writing it, that's the problem.

And I can't stop writing.......

Jacob Vlijm

12:34

@ByteCommander ah, of course. Well, of some questions I was hoping they wouldn't make it, but they did :)

Byte Commander

Maybe I should add a TL;DR on top of each question. That would mean even more writing though o.O

Jacob Vlijm

...Walk away from it, take a shower and a coffee, often brings the best ideas...

Journeyman Geek

13:13

@ByteCommander its normal.

I don't even remember if I filled up the one on SU ;p

Prolly did, but taking a while to fill up the mod questionare happens.

Also, make a copy in case you overrun the charecter count

Byte Commander

13:41

Good idea!

I lost the first version of my nomination post as well because my session crashed. Should have got that idea myself... :P

terdon

@ByteCommander That's strange. I closed the browser window but it was there again when I opened it again.

Byte Commander

@JourneymanGeek There is a character limit? I see no counter...

@terdon Hmm. My browser got killed and restored the last session when I restarted it. But not the form content.

terdon

shrugs dunno. SE normally keeps drafts, you should be able to see a "draft saved" or something under it.

Byte Commander

Not in the nomination form.

terdon

Oh? I wonder how it saved mine then? Oh well...

jokerdino

14:00

maybe local storage got killed

Journeyman Geek

14:22

lol

SOmetimes things don't work ;p

And murphy

also, the charecter count's for any post, and isn't really mentioned till you break it

Jacob Vlijm

14:35

Good that we don't have 40 candidates. My mousewheel is worn out after this :)

Byte Commander

@JourneymanGeek How many characters are allowed? I think I've heard something about 30k anywhere.

Journeyman Geek

I have no idea ._.

I just remember hitting it before. Once or twive

Byte Commander

I'm at about 11k chars, so even if it's only 20k, I hope I won't reach that.

Otherwise my keyboard will be worn out. (cc @JacobVlijm)

Journeyman Geek

30K it seems

40K?

Videonauth

the limit for normal posts is as far i know at 30KB

Journeyman Geek

14:38

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Q: Please notify me of the 30,000 character limit

When mucking around in the Formatting Sandbox, I discovered AFTER all my hard work and effort I put into my 'response' that there is a character limit of 30,000 for posts. Can there please be a notification of such limit? Whilst we are typing the response would be best, but it could be applied t...

jokerdino

30k

Byte Commander

Aha.

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander Haha, right

Byte Commander

Do you think anybody will read through this all?

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander so far, I did... waitwait, not the last one yet.

Byte Commander

14:39

I'm thinking about adding TL;DRs to every question...

Mine is now already longer than @ThomasW.'s and I haven't even answered the last 3 questions yet. #8 is going to be monstrous as well...

Jacob Vlijm

@ByteCommander I see, you simply want to prevent anyone to really read it (just kidding you :) )

Byte Commander

:D

Probably.

Videonauth

@JacobVlijm yep that tl;dr is only a distraction from the lorem ipsum he put everywhere just to make it look long and impressive ;)

Byte Commander

;-P

Jacob Vlijm

@Videonauth shoot, why didn' t we think of that :)

Videonauth

14:45

to be honest im not satisfied with my answers i gave tho i mght come back to it and improve it

Byte Commander

@Videonauth There are some mistakes in your post. It's "queue" and not "cue". Appears several times...

Jacob Vlijm

Yea, but it looks cute

Videonauth

well

Jacob Vlijm

@Videonauth I guess we only can give the real answers once we are confronted with it.

Videonauth

yep

and actually i doubt i will be confronted with them anytime soon

the primaries already paint a pretty clear picture

Byte Commander

14:51

Unfortunately, yes.

Pilot6

17:59

@Videonauth It does not really matter if we are elected or not. You will reach 10k and 20k and will be able to do many things without being a mod.

andrew.46

20:34

@Videonauth My own take on this has been similar to that of applying for a senior job in my organisation. Firstly to use the application process to raise my profile in the organisation, participating fully and openly in the process. If the application fails to lose gracefully and continue to contribute fully to the organisation, eagerly awaiting the next opportunity..

If the process is undertaken in god spirit more opportunities will always come....

Videonauth

:)

andrew.46

good spirit even

Wild Man

21:06

@andrew.46 that is how I see it too, it is a very good learning exprience

edwinksl

@ByteCommander i actually did read through the whole thing

Jacob Vlijm

@Shog9 still around?

andrew.46

21:29

And of course this stage of voting simply selects the top 10

Shog9

21:44

@JacobVlijm sure

what's up?

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Jacob Vlijm

@Shog9 do you have a second or two in private?

Shog9

@JacobVlijm a second or two, sure. Invite me to a room.

Jacob Vlijm

@Shog9 ha, bad for my image... how do create one?

Shog9

@JacobVlijm click on my name, select "start new room..."

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