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18:02
@MolagBal They usually just meet at that one woman's house. Her house is called Malfoy Manor. I'll see if I can remember any cool-named places that they are associated with.
it's tricky to write the room description concisely.
1) anything is on-topic
2) including spoilers
3) and Harry Potter talk has to be pro-Death Eaters
@MolagBal Yeah, that's difficult... :^|
in practice, I think passers by drop in, see you me and the squirrel talking about something weird :p and then they just leave
the room hasn't been overly interesting for other people, considering the total lack of conversations that don't involve me talking
@MolagBal Yeah, probably! :P
@MolagBal It's been difficult for me to find anyone to scheme with, so I'm not surprised people run. :P
@Bellatrix bwahahaha
:p
18:11
@MolagBal Mwahaha! :D Okay, here are the Death Eater-est places I could think of: Malfoy Manor is where they hold all their meetings, Knockturn Alley is a place where Dark wizards (including the Death Eaters) go to buy their dark magic things, and Little Hangleton Graveyard which is where the Dark Lord was resurrected.
@Bellatrix oh the dark lord used to be dead :-o
@Bellatrix do you like any of those as a room name? I am not sure about the graveyard one, but the others would work for me
"graveyard" doesn't make it sound like an active chat room
@MolagBal Yeah. He was able to get resurrected because he kept little pieces of his soul in objects that weren't his body, so if he got killed, he could come back.
@Bellatrix neat trick :)
I was just being an idiot; I hope you didn't take my jab seriously. Anyway, toodles.
@MolagBal Yeah, I agree with you. Either Malfoy Manor or Knockturn Alley would be cool, but graveyard makes us sound more like zombies than Death Eaters.
@MolagBal Definitely! :)
18:16
@Bellatrix yeah I don't like zombies :p unless we reanimate some muggles to do our bidding or something :p
@MolagBal There's actually creatures called Inferi that are basically zombies created specifically to do a Dark wizard's bidding. So yeah, we could totally do that! :P
@Bellatrix ok :D
@MolagBal :D The Dark Lord had some of them guarding one of his soul pieces, and they were all dead Muggles.
@Bellatrix so we can't feed all of them to the dragons. we need to keep an Inferi army too :p
@MolagBal Yeah, Inferi would make a very good basis for an army! :) They're expendable and don't care about their own safety, just about following their master's orders. :)
18:25
@Bellatrix perfect :D
As far as room names, Malfoy Manor is more specifically "Death Eaters", Knockturn Alley is for the broad category of "Dark wizards". There's also Azkaban, the wizard prison where a lot of the Death Eaters were kept. But that meant they weren't able to do Death Eater things.
who are the other dark wizards? are they our allies?
@MolagBal We don't really see much of other dark wizards. Some of them might be.
@MolagBal Yeah! :D
@Bellatrix hmm, mysterious :)
Slytherincess listed her location as Knockturn Alley on her profile :-o I wonder if we should go with the other one, since people might think this is her room if we name it Knockturn Alley
@MolagBal Definitely. :)
@MolagBal Yeah, then that's a good idea! Plus... Knockturn Alley is for shopping mostly. It's basically a mall. :P An evil-wizard mall, but a mall nonetheless.
18:30
@Bellatrix an evil mall :D :p
well we hatch evil schemes in here, so maybe Malfoy Manor would be good :)
@MolagBal That's basically what it is! :D :P
depends on what the squirrel thinks. we can't change it unless she knows, or she might think the room is gone :-o
@MolagBal Yeah, all the Death Eaters' plans are planned there. :) So I think it's a good choice! :)
@Bellatrix we could hatch evil plans in a mall, but if we have a manor, then that would be much better :p
an alley to buy stuff reminds me of some outdoor market I went to in London (I think it was London anyway). I bought some rose-flavored candy :-o
@MolagBal Definitely would be better to plot in a manor than a mall! :P Otherwise people who aren't Death Eaters can hear the plots.
18:36
@Bellatrix yeah that would be no good :)
@MolagBal Knockturn Alley is in London, so that's probably what it's based on. :^|
@Bellatrix fancy :p
@MolagBal They could tell on us! 0_0
@Bellatrix and we have enough trouble with traitors as it is! :-o
@MolagBal Yeah, we don't need more! 0_0
@MolagBal Fancy evil mall. :P What does rose flavored candy taste like?
@MolagBal Once we see her, we can ask! :) Definitely let's not go changing it without her.
18:40
@Bellatrix it tastes like roses :) "but I've never eaten a rose!" you say. however! you've smelled them. They taste exactly like what you might expect based on the smell, if that makes any sense. :)
@Bellatrix yes :)
it's not my favorite flavor, but it's better than you might think
@MolagBal Okay, I understand! :)
@MolagBal Yeah I wouldn't expect it to be good. Like eating potpourri. :P
@Bellatrix it might be a little like that :p
it's an interesting flavor. given a choice between rose candy and anything with ketchup on it, I'll take the rose candy :p
not that that enlightens you very much :p
@MolagBal Hahahaha! :P
@MolagBal Actually it does! :P I've learned you don't like ketchup! :P
@Bellatrix yes :p
@MolagBal I didn't know that! Consider me enlightened! :P
18:45
@Bellatrix ok :p
This is Malfoy Manor. :)
neat :D
is that bouncer a death eater?
@MolagBal I'm not sure, the picture is too blurry for me to recognize him. There are Death Eaters who look like bouncers, though, so he definitely could be!
@MolagBal Yeah, it's cool! Very fitting for a meeting place. :)
@Bellatrix does it have basilisk pits in the yard? :p
@MolagBal No... but it should! :P
18:53
@Bellatrix we can dig some :D
@MolagBal Awesome! :D
@Bellatrix that's a really nice fireplace
they all wear black! :D
@MolagBal It is!
@MolagBal Yeah, they do! :D
@Bellatrix the bald guy has a goatee of evil :)
@MolagBal Oh yeah! :)
They have cool chairs! :)
18:58
@Bellatrix yes! :D
@MolagBal :D Bellatrix is front and center in two of the pictures I posted. ;)
@Bellatrix as she should be :D
@MolagBal Yeah! :D I collect Death Eater pictures, and I especially like the ones she's in. :D
@Bellatrix I really like this one
@MolagBal That's one of my favorites too! :)
19:04
@Bellatrix :D
@MolagBal :D By the way, the two blond guys next to Bellatrix's sister are the sister's husband and son.
@Bellatrix did she betray us for the son?
@MolagBal Yes. :(
@Bellatrix harrumph >:(
@MolagBal Yeah pffft! >:( Bella stayed loyal though!
19:08
@Bellatrix good :D
@MolagBal She was loyal! :D
Here's another picture.
@Bellatrix ohhhh I like that cane
I like lots of stuff in that picture actually :)
@MolagBal Yeah, it's cool! Plus, he keeps his wand hidden at the top of it! :)
@Bellatrix that's perfect :D
@MolagBal Me too! :) What are some of your favorites?
19:20
what happened to the son and dad after they got betrayed?
@MolagBal It's very cool! :D
@Bellatrix I like Bella's skirt and what I can see of the shirt under her vest. Not as crazy about the vest but it's still nice. The chair is cool, and the room in general, with those old paintings on the walls. I like the mom's dress but would rather see it on Bella :p. Oh and that lamp in the background is interesting
is Bella wearing purple nail polish and eye shadow? it's neat
@MolagBal Well, the son didn't end up wanting to be a Death Eater (he chickened out), and she turned traitor at the very end, so neither him or the dad would have known until the Dark Lord was killed and the whole thing was over.
@Bellatrix was the dad a death eater, and survived? so he's just a stray death eater with a chicken son and a traitor wife? :-o
@MolagBal Yeah, pretty much. He liked his money more than being a Death Eater, but he was much more loyal than his son and wife. 0_0
@MolagBal I agree with everything you said! :D Yeah, Bella is wearing purple eyeshadow and reddish-purple nail polish. I have some in those colors too! I specifically chose them to match hers. :) And I shape my nails like hers, so it works well.
19:31
@Bellatrix cool :D I feel like Bella's vest would be more flattering if it were shaped differently, but the general style is good.
I like the guys' clothes, but I prefer the style of David's clothes that I showed you earlier:
2 days ago, by Molag Bal
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the guys in that picture are dressed pretty formally, but I like the look of a longcoat + informal clothes, like David has
although I have some shoes that look like the son's shoes
@MolagBal Yeah, I agree! It's a bit baggy, and she has too nice a figure to hide under an unflattering vest.
@Bellatrix exactly! :)
@MolagBal :)
@MolagBal The guy you showed me definitely has a cool look! :)
@MolagBal Oh that's neat!
@Bellatrix what's hanging down from Bella's left hip over her dress?
@MolagBal That's her wand holder. She puts her wand in it when she isn't using it so she doesn't have to just hold it all the time.
19:42
@Bellatrix oh, I see :)
@MolagBal :)
do you wear dresses like that?
Here's a picture of my wall.
@MolagBal Yes! :D Although they are kind of hard to find, I've managed to get dresses like hers. :)
@Bellatrix looks like a wall :p is it really beige, or is that just the lighting? I thought it was gray
@Bellatrix neat :) I didn't know if you were into dresses or black pants or what
does HP!Bellatrix usually wear dresses?
@MolagBal It's just the lighting, it's gray. :) I'll try to get a better one, it's certainly not beige.
19:45
or, that looks more like a skirt + top, but anyway
@Bellatrix ok :)
@MolagBal Yeah, I mostly wear skirts and dresses. :)
@Bellatrix cool :) it's a nice look
@MolagBal She usually wears either dresses or skirts and tops.
@Bellatrix ankle-length, like Bellatrix?
@MolagBal I think that's what it is, yes.
@MolagBal Yeah, I have some really cool skirts that look like hers! :D
19:49
@Bellatrix :D
@MolagBal Thanks! :D
@MolagBal :D It took a lot of shopping around, but I got some awesome ones! :)
@Bellatrix my mom could sew you a skirt from any fabric you like :p
probably wouldn't be so difficult to make a skirt with a sewing machine
@MolagBal That would be cool! :P My mom does basic sewing. So she can mend my skirts, but I don't know if she could make one.
@Bellatrix if I try to sew stuff, it all just comes unstitched, so it ends up worse than before :p
@MolagBal I've always wanted to learn to sew so I could make my own Bellatrix stuff. So far, I suck at it. :P
19:53
@Bellatrix so do I :p
I have to ask my mom if I want something done right :p
@MolagBal Aww. Sorry. :P
@MolagBal So do I! :P
@Bellatrix at least our moms know stuff :p
@MolagBal Thank goodness for moms! :P Unfortunately, mine is busy, so it takes her a while to get around to mending anything for me.
@Bellatrix on the other hand, you live with her (I think?), so you can just wait and pounce at the appropriate time :p
I think I'd have to wait a couple weeks, unless I told my mom it was terribly important. But it's never terribly important. :p
20:10
@MolagBal Yeah, I live with her. So that's true, but the appropriate time takes a while to come. :P
@Bellatrix actually, I kind of envision her saying, "ok dear, put it on the pile" and then you have to wait for weeks anyway :p
@MolagBal That's exactly what happens! :P
my parents live maybe 30 miles south of me at the moment
@Bellatrix poor Bella :p
@MolagBal Usually I don't mind, unless it's one of my favorite items. Right now, I'm waiting for her to fix one of my best Bellatrix skirts, and I'm getting a bit impatient. :P
@MolagBal Do you like that kind of distance?
@MolagBal Luckily, there are very few sewing emergencies then. :P
@Bellatrix yeah, I mean closer would be fine as long as we aren't in the same house. I don't go to see them as often as I should, but 30 miles doesn't take so long to drive. It might be more like 20 or 25, actually. We used to live thousands of miles apart and that wasn't good.
I could hardly stand living with them when I was in high school, but things got much better when I moved out at the start of college
I like them, but I have my way of doing things and my dad has his, and it's better if we have separate houses so we can both get our own way :)
20:21
@MolagBal Okay, cool! :D
@MolagBal Yeah that makes sense. :)
I was homeschooled in 9th grade and that was just bad. I needed more space, but I never got to leave the house.
I was homeschooled from 6th-8th grades too, and that was better, but still not great. I didn't have enough activities outside the house.
@MolagBal Homeschooling only works well if you're okay with not having much space, or have a relatively large house.
@Bellatrix yeah, and if you have a ton of friends to visit and things to do outside the house it's probably fine. But if you don't, you just sit at home and never see anybody, ever.
@MolagBal I could see how not being able to leave the house much could get on your nerves.
@MolagBal That's pretty much a good description of it. I've never minded though, because I don't mind sitting at home and not seeing people. The people here are boring.
@Bellatrix were you homeschooled?
20:29
@MolagBal Yeah. I love it though. :)
@Bellatrix cool :)
@MolagBal It is! :) For me at least. I can study while still being me, and I don't have to worry about bullies or dealing with idiots.
@Bellatrix that's good :) I was oddly immune to bullies
as I recall, I liked homeschooling in 6th grade, but it worked less for me every year
@MolagBal Wow, that's cool! :D I've been bullied a lot online, where they can actually hit me, I don't think would be much better. :P
@Bellatrix poor Bella :-/
have you always been homeschooled?
20:35
@MolagBal Yeah... I get a lot of people who hate the Goth thing and that I like villains.
@MolagBal Yeah. :) And I've always liked it. :)
@Bellatrix yeah :( people on this site ought to be OK with Goths, at least
@Bellatrix neat :) I know it can work for some people, depending on temperament and so on. If I had been homeschooled in 3rd grade, it would have been better (I had terrible 3rd grade teachers), and in fact, I think we started homeschooling because my sister was about to enter 3rd grade, and we needed to save her from those teachers.
I might be mixing up the timeline on that though
@MolagBal Here is the best place I've been so far. :) A few people have tried being mean, but most are nice. I don't want to leave, so I'm trying not to let people here think they can push me around.
@MolagBal Okay, cool! :)
@Bellatrix there are tons of mods in chat here, so they should be able to clamp down on people being mean
@MolagBal That's good! :)
@Bellatrix I haven't noticed anybody here giving you a hard time about liking villains for at least a few days. Maybe the regulars got used to it?
for whatever reason, I have not received any complaints about naming myself after an evil god of domination
20:44
@MolagBal Yeah, for the last few days, no one has given me trouble over liking villains. :) So hopefully they're getting used to it. :)
@Bellatrix after seeing all those film clips of her, it's hard to imagine people not liking Bellatrix :p
@MolagBal Yeah, I find it hard to understand too! :P She is way cool! But a lot of people hate her. :(
@MolagBal That's because you're awesome and immune to bullies! :P Or maybe they don't know who he is.
I have no idea who MolagBal is so probably that
@Bellatrix maybe they just like one of the protagonists, and hate everybody who opposes them? I don't know. I don't hate Harry, I just think he's a dork
@MolagBal That could be it.
20:47
@Ixrec yeah, there's that. Well I'm a God of Domination and Other Things that are Highly Unpleasant
@MolagBal I had to Google him. :)
@Bellatrix I guess he's not all that (in)famous :)
@MolagBal Yeah, but I know who he is now! :)
I would have to change my name to a better known evil fictional god to get a proper gauge of the response
You didn't know who Bellatrix was at first either.
20:50
@Bellatrix true :)
I have considered changing my name back to amaranth, since it's a nice name and I may have made my point by now (solidarity with other chat villains), but I don't know
@MolagBal It doesn't make them any less awesome! Now we've both learned a new villain! :)
@Bellatrix yes :)
@MolagBal Whatever you want to do, once you don't change it and not let me know who you are.
@MolagBal :)
this place is a lot happier than the main chatroom right now
there's literally a dozen smiling faces here
is the main chatroom full of woes? flags? excessive gifs?
politics?
20:53
Axelrod talking about how terrible science is and Mike and I trying to figure out what on earth any of his statements mean
@MolagBal It looks like debates about science and dark matter.
and some global warming politics on the side
@Ixrec hmmm I'm staying out of that then
@Bellatrix they should rename it to Goth matter
@MolagBal That would be awesome! :)
it's a party \o/
who brought the snacks?
@Bellatrix you'll be the first to know if I change names :)
20:56
@MolagBal Thanks! :)
@Himarm is here too, but he forgot
@MolagBal Dark wizards are way better than dark matter. :P
@Bellatrix I tend to agree :p
@MolagBal Awesome! :)
I keep accidentally hitting send, and I'm ending up sending a lot of gibberish today before I can fix it. :P
@Bellatrix oh well :p
21:01
@MolagBal Yeah. :P One, I wasn't able to fix, so I had to write it in a new message and hope you wouldn't think I lost my mind. :P
@Bellatrix :p
@MolagBal :P You might remember it because it made no sense. :P
@Bellatrix I haven't been keeping track of such things :p
@MolagBal Oh, okay! Cool! :P I think I might have flagged it because I felt bad about posting such nonsense in your room.
@Bellatrix if you really want something gone, and it's too late to delete it, you can move it to the "trash" chatroom
1 message moved to Trash
@Bellatrix or you can just post nonsense. it's your room too :p
21:06
@MolagBal Oh, okay! That's cool! How do I do that?
@Bellatrix in the top right, above the user icons, it has a "room" menu, and in there is "move messages"
then you click on the messages you don't like and click OK or something. Then type in "trash" into the search box, and it will show you the trash room
it's kind of a pain, really
@MolagBal Okay, I'll try it now! :)
@Bellatrix :)
just don't move the wrong thing, because we can't move it back without a mod's help :p
1 message moved to Trash
it worked :D
now Bella has more trix :p
21:10
@MolagBal Yeah! :D
@MolagBal :P Thanks to you! :P
@MolagBal I got the right one. :P That's a much better solution than flagging my message! :) Thanks! :)
@Bellatrix being a room owner comes in handy :D
@MolagBal Yeah, that's awesome! :D
@MolagBal Good to know! :P
@Bellatrix :p
@MolagBal :P
Thank you for inviting me to your room so we can talk about dark wizards while the other people fight over science! :P
I think we're done with the science argument that contained no actual arguments about science
21:22
@Ixrec now it's time to have an argument over what science is
the funny thing is I'd actually love to do that because that's one of my favorite parts of philosophy
but of course nobody else cares about philosophy
that's because philosophy is not science, and it's therefore Bad. Very Bad.
that's the feeling I get these days, anyway
I got maybe 1/3 of the way through a philosophy of science book once
never mind that defining science is purely a matter of philosophy, and everything we call science today used to be philosophy
but oh well
@MolagBal Or I could post a cool picture of Bellatrix. :P
@Bellatrix we can do both :p
@Ixrec but people think philosophy is bad news
21:24
it's true that it has few practical implications and the most useful conclusions of philosophy are things that most of us already fully understand and believe in, albeit largely taking that knowledge for granted
That was supposed to be bigger... :P
oh that's fancy
well I feel like philosophy would be over on the mathematics side of this chart, except possibly a different axis
making metaphysical sense out of math is my #1 favorite part of philosophy
out there in the "fundamental but few direct practical applications, and therefore frowned upon" category
it's more like totally outside that chart, and also at one with the entire chart
21:26
that's deep
it's the Force
I have no idea what to do with any of this conversation... :P
you're not meant to
@Bellatrix say deep things
I knew multiple engineering students who derided physics because it wasn't practical. Umm, it's about unraveling the mysteries of the entire universe. Why should it be practical?
@MolagBal I don't believe physics entails an ontological commitment to mathematical entities
deep enough?
21:27
@MolagBal I don't have anything deep to say. :P
@Bellatrix throw words together and hope for the best :p
@Ixrec too deep for me to follow
perfect
@Bellatrix that's a good one
21:28
incidentally, the stereotype that the "greatest" philosophers of all time are largely incomprehensible is sadly partially true even if you know philosophy
@MolagBal Aww thank you! :D I like it too! :)
Kant was really on to something but my god he made no sense at all in some really important parts of his writing
that's a bit worrying
> In the pure mathematics we contemplate absolute truths which existed in the divine mind before the morning stars sang together, and which will continue to exist there when the last of their radiant host shall have fallen from heaven.
Everett, Edward, Quoted by E.T. Bell in The Queen of the Sciences, Baltimore, 1931, apparently
@MolagBal The Dark Lord will rise again!
I can hear my former classmates scoffing at the impracticality already
@Bellatrix bwahahaha :D
21:31
more interesting to modern metaphysics is the idea that mathematical truths are equally true across all possible worlds, not merely all of time and space in our actual world
@Ixrec how would we know?
@MolagBal Mwahaha! :D
@MolagBal that's deep
I may end up getting a philosophy degree of some sort in a few years
dunno
@MolagBal Okay, cool! :) You sound like you know your stuff... I don't know. :P
21:34
@Bellatrix I don't know anything. I just mumble stuff and sometimes sound correct.
it's also worth noting that many famous scientists and mathematicians did a heck of a lot of what we now call philosophy and conveniently omit from the "proper" math and science textbooks
like the stuff Newton thought about wtf "space" and "time" even mean: plato.stanford.edu/entries/newton-stm
@MolagBal Well, this conversation about philosophy is totally losing me. :P So you're still better than me. :)
@Bellatrix maybe I'm better at faking it :p
I mumble stuff that I think is correct and nobody questions it so it works out about the same
21:36
@MolagBal I don't know. :P
the extent of my philosophy training is reading 1/3 of a book by someone of no importance, reading a few web pages once 5 or 10 years ago, and watching the Matrix
@Bellatrix oooo colorful
the questions raised by sci-fi like The Matrix are certainly a good starting point
that does look cool
actually I like the philosophy in Solaris (1979 or 77 or something, not the remake)
21:39
@MolagBal Well, I have no idea what the heck any of this philosophy stuff is even about. :P
@Bellatrix watch the Matrix and come back :p
@MolagBal Thanks! :D
somebody in Solaris said that we go to the stars claiming to want to make contact with alien life, but what we really want is a mirror, to find ourselves in the stars. If we run across something truly foreign, we'll probably just want to kill it.
@MolagBal My mom and I watched Inception. She loved it, I hated it.
She is correct =)
21:40
@Bellatrix I liked it well enough. It didn't make any sense but it was entertaining. I probably wouldn't watch it again though.
@MolagBal I didn't understand it. I prefer movies I can actually understand.
@Bellatrix there wasn't a lot to understand. they're dreaming and stuff, and then they either stopped dreaming or they didn't. anything else was just made up for purposes of continuing the movie :p
fair enough, Inception made sense to me but I am biased toward movies that require me to think about them
there was more than that =P
but, your brain doesn't speed up in your dreams. And dreaming within your dreams doesn't overclock you and let you live a lifetime in a single night.
I feel like the premise just wouldn't work.
oh, that, well of course that wouldn't work
neither would anything cool in any sci-fi anything
21:43
@MolagBal Okay... :)
@Bellatrix :p
as I recall, you just need to count which dream level they're in, and you can follow it well enough
pretty much
if you want something hard to unravel, watch Primer
@MolagBal I am really not sure how I ended up in such a confusing conversation! :P
@Bellatrix sorry Bella :p
21:45
@MolagBal It's not your fault. :)
I watched Primer and had to read the explanations for it so it retroactively makes sense to me; imo it would've made perfect sense with just a little bit more exposition in the right places, there was no reason for it to be as baffling on a first viewing as it is
@MolagBal I'll pass... :P
@Ixrec I read some explanations and felt like the ones I was reading were wrong. But I got bored of deciphering it before I figured it out.
@Bellatrix yeah I don't think you would like it :p
@Bellatrix is the big guy a werewolf?
and what's the deal with the short, smiley guy?
21:47
@MolagBal Yeah! He's the one I was telling you about!
@Bellatrix cool :)
@MolagBal :D
I think I managed to decipher it because I had noticed all the important pieces but I had no idea what anyone's motivations were and had no indication how many duplicates of each character were in the timeline so I couldn't put it all together
@MolagBal I'm not sure, he's just some low level minion.
I never figured out what exactly happens when you put a box inside another box. I was drawing multiple timelines on a board but couldn't figure out what timeline it would throw you out on once you emerged
@Bellatrix he looks like a minion, so that makes sense. Kind of an Igor.
21:50
@MolagBal Yeah. :)
@MolagBal That's what happened with me and Inception.
@Bellatrix I kind of just shrugged after watching Inception. I wasn't inspired to try to learn about it much.
iirc, no one in Primer ever takes an "active" box back in time, so the result is simply that you and box2 both end up wherever box1 spits you out, same as if you didn't bring a box2
@MolagBal I wasn't impressed either.
@Ixrec I thought they nested boxes to get to a time before the first box was turned on
though half of the times they do take boxes back are off-screen so you just kinda have to assume that
@MolagBal a key part of the premise of Primer's time travel is that is not possible, ever
21:53
I am not sure...
the only reason they appeared to "go back before the first box was turned on" was because the guy who got the boxes working had originally started up two boxes, and the "first box" we see is the second of those two
anyway, the guy at the end was building a huge box, in which you could nest smaller boxes dozens of time, with all of them running at once
he intended the other one to be a backup so they could always go back to the very start if something terrible happened
@MolagBal If I'm honest, I don't like philosophy at all. I have no problem with it as a subject, I just have zero interest in it personally.
I would have to go back and try to look this stuff up again, I guess
21:54
yeah, the movie made this way more confusing than it needed to be
I still feel like active, nested boxes would let you go back before the first box was turned on
why?
@Bellatrix that's ok :) I hope we aren't boring you too much
@MolagBal Aww, thanks! Honestly... kind of. :P
@Ixrec I drew stuff on a board that made me think that, but that was years ago. That, and it seemed like it was necessary to explain the plot, but I could be wrong
21:57
fair enough, I might've talked myself into something like that had I not gone straight for the "official internet verdict" on wtf was going on
I think the director eventually said what was going on, but I could not find that when I was reading about it, or he hadn't said it yet
6 Aarons, and the narrator is Aaron #2, or something... I don't remember
that sounds about right
not that saying it like that explains anything
yeah, but he apparently had the whole sequence of timelines mapped out, so there is a "right" answer out there somewhere
maybe that's the one popular on the internet... I don't know
@Bellatrix sorry Bella :p
there was a lot of consistency among all the internet answers I saw so I've been assuming it was correct
I just remember not liking the timeline I saw
21:59
@MolagBal It's all right. :)

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