The Quill and Tankard

Mithrandir24601

00:04

Main point: they knew they couldn't kill the army of the dead, so everything they did was ultimately for the purpose of drawing out the Night King

Jolenealaska

00:42

I'm going to watch episode 4 at the very moment it first becomes available. I bet quite a few things that seem like bad writing in episode 3 will not look so stupid after episode 4.

18 minutes!

Bael the Bard

03:39

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Q: Did Bran Stark actually do anything as a warg in the final battle with the White Walkers?

Bran told Theon he'd be going then warged into a few crows. What did he accomplish as the crow? It didn't look like he posed any threat to the Night's King. And if it was reconnaissance he didn't debrief with anyone about what he saw. What was the strategy there?

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Bael the Bard

04:21

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Q: How many days have elapsed since the Battle of Winterfell?

In Game of Thrones S08E04, we see the aftereffect of the Battle of Winterfell. The fallen heroes are laid to rest, then a big feast to celebrate life, then the battle plan to defeat Cersei & then they depart from Winterfell. Exactly how many days have elapsed since the battle till the time Da...

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Jolenealaska

04:33

Yep.

Apr 29 at 12:42, by Jolenealaska

Do we know that Arya is the Prince(ss) that was Promised? Yeah, she killed the Night King, but does that absolutely mean that she "brought the dawn"? It isn't dawn yet. I mean, that's the prophecy, the dawn.

See?

D&D aren't idiots.

Bael the Bard

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Q: Why didn't she end the war during the meeting of hands?

It's obvious that could have killed with the Are there any legitimate in-universe reasons why she didn't? Seems like the writers just don't care anymore to me.

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Jolenealaska

I love this show.

Bael the Bard

05:58

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Q: Why did Missandei say Dracarys?

In Game of Thrones S08E04 The Last of the Starks, Euron When Dany agrees to a parlay with Cersei, she demands Dany's surrender in exchange for Upon refusal, she decides to Missandei says Dracarys. Dany has uttered it many times & I am assuming it means "Breath Fire". But why ...

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Bael the Bard

06:37

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Q: Why did Gendry call himself Gendry Rivers?

Gendry was born in the Crownlands and should therefore be referred to as Gendry Waters. However, he refers to himself as Gendry Rivers. Did showrunners forget or is Gendry ignorant of the customs?

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Q: Where was Gendry born?

In Game of Thrones S08E04 The Last of the Starks, Gendry is When Gendry finds Arya, he tells him that his earlier name was Gendry Rivers. As far as I know, Gendry was born in Kings Landing. Bastards of Kings Landing are named Waters. Bastards of Riverrun are named Rivers & Bastard...

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Bael the Bard

06:56

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Q: Why didn't Missandei just yeet Cersei off the platform?

When Cersei leaned in for the talk Missandei could have easily thrown her off the platform to her death. Instead she decided to be dramatic and feed into Daenerys's worst impulses. There were no restraints on her arm or legs. She was not even kneeling. It was the easiest thing to do but she did...

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Q: What happened to the Horn of Winter?

Does anyone know what happened to the horn? Since if I remember correctly it was shown in the tv show, found by Sam and I think he took it with him when he left south, or Idk if it was just in the books that he took the horn south, especially since from my understanding it should have been import...

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Aegon

08:14

Jolenealaska

@Aegon Is that your reaction to the episode?

Kepotx

well, can't blame him, there are still teleportations and some weird things

like how could Dany didn't see the iron fleet?

Also, I noticed something. I assumed that travelling times were not correct, but at least there were several weeks between or even inside episode. Problem is, Cersei seems to still be few weeks pregnant, gilly baby is still a baby and so on. They are trully traveling around whole Westeros in days

Aegon

@Jolenealaska The questions this season. Haven't watched the episode yet but I have read about the painful stuff anyways

Jolenealaska

@Kepotx I don't know. I don't have an aerial map, nor did the show show how the Iron Born were hiding.

Aegon

Not like I had any higher expectation tbh. It's like they just want to get it over with

Jolenealaska

08:25

That seems unfair.

I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

Aegon

@Kepotx Tbh the timing doesn't bother me at all. The clumsy writing does

Jolenealaska

But I'm truly fanboying.

Kepotx

@Jolenealaska several ships could see her, why couldn't she see the boats?

Aegon

@Jolenealaska I am not saying you shouldn't. I just find it all rushed and botched. They chose to have 6 episodes, rather than more. I find it hard to believe that HBO wouldn't finance the endgame of one of their biggest shows ever, heck one of the biggest shows in history.

@Kepotx Because Euron has 100 stealth. Dany has 20 situational awareness. And that 20 comes from Drogon.

Kepotx

@Aegon twice she comes to dragonstone after long time, twice she didn't send any scouts

Aegon

08:29

The only good thing to come out of the season so far remains Jenny's song.

Kepotx

guess she is learning the hard way

Aegon

And how's it that no one asked about the song here. People would have found it even more beautiful had they known the background story

Have people started googling stuff before asking? :O

We are ruined

Kepotx

yup

Jolenealaska

The Iron Fleet had the element of surprise on their side. A mountainous island could have provided cover. But that's beside the point for me. I'm into the feels of the whole thing.

Kepotx

@Aegon this, but seems like they can't google "dracarys" or "gendry"

Aegon

08:31

Heh

Pretty sure Dany explained Dracarys in Show too

But too lazy to find the script

Euron killed Rhaegel or did Rhaegel die of his wounds against Viserion?

Jolenealaska

Euron killed him.

Aegon

@Jolenealaska Well, if you have Aerial recon and still someone on an open sea manages to surprise you, you might as well slit your dragons' throats yourself

"Is it a bird? Is it a plane? It's Euron Greyjoy"

Jolenealaska

Yes, Dany explained dracarys in the show.

Aegon

@Jolenealaska Magic totally-innovative-not-inspired-from-dorne-at-all scorpion bolt?

Kepotx

seriously, it was clean sky, and dragonstone is tiny island, there is no way that she could be trapped

Jolenealaska

08:35

All of the ships had very improved scorpions.

It was actually a very compelling scene.

Kepotx

either she is uttelry stupid, or it was a deus ex machina, again. Guess it's both

Jolenealaska

Gorgeous CGI

Kepotx

more than improved, those scorpions managed to destroy ships with bolts

this scene, just like dothraki scene, and lopt of other scens from this seasons seems to be the bittersweet they were promising

good looking scenes for the spectator, but stupid in-universe

Aegon

09:01

May 3 at 6:55, by Aegon

Amazing artwork. Lannister family portrait a few years after Joanna's death. Keep an eye out for details ;)

Kepotx

only thing that bother me is that it's a bow, not a crossbow

Jolenealaska

@Aegon That's seriously harsh. Don't get me wrong, I agree that the show has had some serious flaws since they ran out of material from the published books. But it's not like show Jon and Dany have spit on and killed GRRM's Jon and Dany. It's like, a bonus. When we read WoW and (hopefully) ADoS, we won't be spoiled. I still totally love the show. I REALLY loved Arya's big moment.

So, I don't get the venomous dislike.

Kepotx

09:16

I just accept that it was not ASOIAF adaptation anymore, but a paralel thing based on same universe

but still, there are some heavy tv tropes that bother me, that weren't on previous seasons

it's not the fact that characters or actions are diferent, it's that they are quite dull

Jolenealaska

@Kepotx That's enough for me to really enjoy it.

Kepotx

tv show had made awwesome thing. I loved Arya scenes at Harrenhall in TV Show, even if it was not on the books

Jolenealaska

@Kepotx yes. I loved Arya and Tywin. Even though it really doesn't make any sense. In much the same way, it's wrong for the characters. He knows she's from the north and suspects she's highborn. He doesn't find out who she is before leaving her with The Mountain? I'm not buying it. I don't care, I love the scenes.

Mithrandir24601

@Kepotx Daenerys is becoming a tyrant who believes it's her destiny to kill Cersei - she expects to just walk in and kill everyone without a hitch, so no, she's not expecting boats to have those dragon killing crossbows. Yes, the boats were hidden behind some large island or another and can move. You're not going to use a queen as a scout (how ridiculous would that be?)

@Kepotx And if the Dothraki charge succeeded in bringing out the Night King, would you have called it stupid? Because that was part of the point of the charge - they knew they wouldn't destroy the army of the dead, so that was never the aim

Bael the Bard

09:32

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Q: Is this really a Starbucks cup?

Am I going insane or did someone really leave a coffee cup in a scene?

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Mithrandir24601

@Jolenealaska This is easily one of the best fiction TV shows ever. Not as good as the books, sure. Maybe not as good as Breaking Bad (I've never seen it, but I've been told great things about it). Arguably no better than a couple of other shows I've seen (Line of Duty?), but way ahead of anything else I know of

Jolenealaska

I'm glad someone agrees!

Mithrandir24601

Everyone else I've spoken to really enjoyed it as well (one didn't particularly, but watched it a second time and did), so as I've said before, the hate that it gets in this room is incredibly confusing

Aegon

@Kepotx Well they do call it "Based on" rather than "adaptation" officially.

Mithrandir24601

Like, it feels like it can only do wrong

Aegon

09:37

@Kepotx Everyone loved that change. Even I did and I am probably one of the biggest critic of changes around these parts. Just goes to show that the problem isn't about changes, the problem is about senseless changes which contradict the basis of the world they are based in

Mithrandir24601

If the Dothraki are outside the walls: 'what are you doing? They're all going to die in open battle!'. If they're inside the walls: 'what are you doing? The army of the dead will starve them out!'... Just can't win

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 Why not? Kings and Queens have fought and scouted for their armies on dragons. Literally see any Targaryen war before death of the dragons

Kepotx

@Jolenealaska maybe off-character for tywin that should have investigate more, but Arya was great in it, also, it forge his character for further episodes

Aegon

Daenerys is becoming a tyrant who believes it's her destiny to kill Cersei, and that's why it's horrendous. They took one of the few characters, the only one wearing the crown who actually cares and wants to improve the life of her people. And they made her into this crazy old entitled lady who broods on feuds and violence

Kepotx

@Mithrandir24601 if it succeded, I would found it odd, and easy win

Mithrandir24601

09:39

@Aegon OK, so use Daenerys as a scout - what happens? She flies over the island, see the boats directly beneath her. They see her and shoot. Not only are both dragons dead, but so is she

oops

3 mins ago, by Mithrandir24601

Like, it feels like it can only do wrong

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 Oh I forgot, Dragons are made up of Papier-mâché.

How silly of me

Kepotx

@Mithrandir24601 the best thing for dotharkis should be twanging arrows at wights/WW

Aegon

Of course, the Dragons would have been downed

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon Against bolts designed to kill them, yes

Aegon

Surprising that they don't die when someone speaks loudly in their vicinity

Kepotx

09:41

light cavalry is made to harass ennemy, usually by the flanks, not making a frontal charge

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 No bolts can pierce a dragons hide. If they could, Valyria would never have risen

No bolts are designed to penetrate their scales

Mithrandir24601

@Kepotx In GoT (not aSoIaF) universe, are Dothraki archers? Nope. I do agree, this is a flaw of the TV show

Aegon

They simply took away their OP stats just because they couldn't figure out a plot which was interesting enough

@Mithrandir24601 Last season. Dothraki charged with arrows before closing in with arakhs

Jolenealaska

@Aegon Don't you think GRRM plans to have his dragons vulnerable to smart weaponry?

Kepotx

@Mithrandir24601 they were lot of sothraki archer attacking the convoy of Lannister in season 7, no?

Aegon

09:43

@Jolenealaska It won't be a "totally innovative" scorpion bolt. Nor would it break internal consistency and precedents from history. He's a much better writer than that.

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon So you're saying that technology never changes over the course of a millenium? If medieval people can create things designed to bring down walls, is it really that unreasonable in a fantasy universe that they can design something that can bring down a dragon

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 It literally hasn't changed in Planetos ever since their Bronze Age ended.

8000 years ago: Rhoynar flee before dragons

8000 years later: Rhoynar still have no answer for dragons

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon 1: That's not the same as being horse archers with very different tactics and 2. How do you know they didn't?

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 They were ahorse and shooting. How's that not being the same as horse archers?

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon And? The real bronze age lasted thousands of years

Kepotx

09:45

@Mithrandir24601 I remember a scene were a dothraki stand up in his stirrups to twang arrows. You need skill for that

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 They didn't what? Charge at the dead with arrows? You're right, given all the dark, who can say anything?

But if anyone had to make a guess, if a dude rides off carrying a burning sword, he's not gonna put it back in his sheath

Jolenealaska

Qyburn was the architect of the improvements. He's kind of bright.

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 Yes and what is your point mith?

There are no changes in the weaponry and tactics

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon Would you expect to see in the middle of the night in I dunno, Scotland in the middle of Winter?

Aegon

Non Valyrians do not have any weapons to bring dragons down

Which is why they remain a highly coveted and feared weapon

Kepotx

09:46

also, they didn't expect mellisandre. arakh would be totally useless, obsidian arrows would be usefull

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon Because their main method of attacking is still hand-to-hand combat

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 Sure. We saw Battle of blackwater fine alright

@Mithrandir24601 Everyone's main method is hand to hand combat

No one relies on archery alone

Kepotx

I get the "lets bring NK to WInterfell and kill it there", but the "Lets make 0 strategy so he can take more risk" is very risky

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon Which didn't take place as far north and in summer

Aegon

Where does your information on medieval warfare come from, I am curious?

Jolenealaska

09:48

@Kepotx I'll admit that one is better if you don't think about it too hard. (Mel and the Dothraki)

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon So, you're actually saying that the main method of combat for archers was with their side-arm?

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 Why do you find it so hard to admit that the shooting could have been better? You keep building legs for them to stand on.

@Mithrandir24601 Dude you're talking about mounted archer. Stay consistent

Jolenealaska

That doesn't make it awful.

Aegon

Mounted archers have secondary weapons

And they are used in harassing roles

they use ranged weapons until they close

And then they switch to their melee weapons

Dedicated archers on foot however mainly have bows and shortswords

They remain behind shieldwalls

And stick to their main role

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon And this isn't how the Dothraki do things in GoT and as I've said is a flaw of the TV-world

Aegon

09:50

@Mithrandir24601 They evidently did things that way when they fought the lannisters

The only other time we saw the Dothraki fight was at Meereen

Where they were riding down civilians with daggers

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon I didn't see them 'harassing' much

Aegon

Not riding headlong against armoured regular armies

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon That's exactly what they did against the Lannisters. Releasing a volley of arrows before charging straight into them doesn't change that

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 Uh....That's what mounted archers do

See the mounted crossbowmen mercenaries hired by German Kingdoms

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon Mounted archers harass, not charge head-on

Aegon

09:52

That was their prime tactic

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon crossbow =/= bow

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 Seriously man, read the histories

Light cavalry, which mounted archers were, often collided with each other

The Mounted Crossbowmen of Germanic Kingdoms clashed with Altaic mounted bowmen

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon And now you've changed what you're saying

Aegon

The traditional role is to harass the flanks and baggage train.

But that isn't always true

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon Yes, that's what I keep saying

Aegon

09:56

Archery is still a powerful weapon

@Mithrandir24601 Only in your mind it would seem

Mithrandir24601

And as I've said, that they didn't is a flaw of the TV-world

@Aegon OK, I'm leaving this room

Jolenealaska

I fail to understand how that kind of minutiae (and yes, it does seem like a very inconsequential flaw) is so unforgivable that it ruins the show.

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 That wasn't meant to be a personal attack on you. It rather seems like you lost the track of the things over the discussion. Review the transcript. My point was that mounted archers carried other weapons that they used once they engaged directly. You on the other hand argued that if a light cavalry with bows closes in, it's no longer mounted archer unit. Then you claimed that apparently I had changed everything I said which I don't believe did.

It is quite possible that I am the one who lost track of the things. Don't take it personally. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mithrandir24601

10:31

@Aegon So, essentially, my problem isn't so much about this specific thing (you're actually right in the sense that I'm not good at getting things across, so you telling me this is fine :P ) The problem is really that in here, I was trying to have a discussion and I was trying to make some point (more or less, that the Dothraki don't harass as much as I would expect them to given that they're horse-archers, which is a flaw etc.)

It appears that you're agreeing with this, only the problem is that, in order to make that point, I then have to be super-precise about what I'm saying so that it doesn't come across in some other way that I'm not trying to make (e.g. I'm not trying to say that the tactics they use are generally good or bad or were or were not used by other horse archers, although I am trying to say that, given context of the TV-universe, they're believable tactics).

Problem is, I spend virtually every day having to be precise about things and I watch GoT and participate in here for enjoyment and enjoyment only. Once I start having to be more precise about things, It's often just not as enjoyable for me, so I often don't bother, except as an occasional joke or something

Mithrandir24601

10:43

As an example, instead of writing 'That's not the same as being horse archers with very different tactics', I could have said 'That's not the same as using standard harassing tactics, which I would generally expect them to use at least a reasonable amount of in order to e.g. buy them more time to reload or give the bulk of the (non-Dothraki) army more time or wear the opposing enemy down more etc. ...

and instead releasing some number of volleys without any form of withdrawal tactics before immediately charging in (as light cavalry, as opposed to heavy cavalry)' but blimey, it took me 10 minutes just to write that and that's still not really exactly what I'm trying to say, so I really just couldn't be bothered

Aegon

@Mithrandir24601 No harm done I hope. I suspected once or twice that we might have been arguing for the same thing but couldn't be too sure, it was pretty confusing. We can try again if you want. Say what your point is (I promise I won't butt in and derail the discussion ;) ) And then I'll read it up and figure out what exactly were we arguing about lol

Mithrandir24601

@Aegon That's part of the problem - it would probably take me about 2 hours to figure out exactly what my point is, then another to write it down and I wouldn't really enjoy those hours, so I just don't see the point to be honest - I'm sorry for just getting up and leaving and yeah, we're probably saying the same thing (isn't that always the way?)

Aegon

Ah okay, that's fine. No problemo

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Q: Is all of the 3 Game of Thrones twists have been revealed?

In the long night episode the night king is killed, does this mean all 3 twists has been revealed?

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Kepotx

Aegon

11:03

🤣

Mithrandir24601

@Kepotx Umm, I'm good thanks :P

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I do feel bad for just leaving in the middle of the argument but ah well, that's what it's like to be human

Kepotx

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Aegon

12:01

@Kepotx Well at least it wasn't "Give me twenty good men and I'll kill the bi***"

The way her dragons keep dying, Dany must be thinking how the heck did Aegon I conquer Westeros with those fire-lizards

Kepotx

@Aegon some caracters have plot armor, but somes have the opposite

plot-soft-skin?

Skooba

@Aegon he had two sisters ;-)

Kepotx

and in season 7, the scorpion just hurt Drogon a little bit, and she manages to take out the bolt by hands. But know, those ballistae shot from really far away and still get troughthe whole dragon

Skooba

@Kepotx I don't if I would call Dany's dragons mature yet considering their life span is hundreds of years iirc.

Kepotx

sure, it wasn't balerion the dread

Skooba

12:10

@Aegon needed to pull a Top Gun, pull up on their 6 from the clouds and be directly above them. there were no scorpions mounted on the back

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Q: Why is the episode called "The Last of the Starks"?

The latest episode of Game of Thrones Season 8, episode 4 has been named "The Last of the Starks". Why was it named so? I couldn't fathom the reason behind this intriguing episode title.

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Nzall

12:58

I don't watch GoT myself, but I heard about this and I thought it was hilarious

🕹️💺⬆️👽 *clears throat*

Tweeted by StellarisGame on May 6, 2019 at 12:06 PM

I'm not sure if you guys noticed this, but there wasn't any discussion of it and the only question about it was deleted

Aegon

They probably got paid for that cameo.

A long read but this guy sums it up perfectly

@Skooba Dany has a nephew.....Well okay the nephew just kept watching his men trying desperately to light up the fence....while he had a dragon. Pretty useless 2nd head.

Skooba

13:14

third head already gone and sorry folks this aint Hydra

Aegon

But "What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger?"

It is hydra! boom

Skooba

Dragon/Kraken hybrid coming up?

Aegon

In the books at least, it might yet happen

:D

Skooba

@Aegon Martin was semi-publicly done with the show too around the same time. To me that is still a big reason for the decline. Martin could guide them and tell them more details so the plot would flow better/make more sense

Aegon

A silver Kraken on a dragon, an Ironman on the Iron-throne

@Skooba A lot of people keep saying this but I doubt he was contractually bound to provide such services. Maybe D&D could put more effort into learning the source material or hire writers who actually read the works they were supposed to base their scripts on?

Kepotx

13:21

@Skooba well, viserion died in the water, and rise again. guess what? rhaegal also died in water. Coincidence? I think not!

Aegon

Why should George care about the show? He's made it very clear that it is its own thing, he has no say etc etc. He just got the money

Skooba

@Aegon oh yeah I'm sure he wasn't "bound" but you gotta show the creator some love which I think D&D stopped doing so Martin stopped showing it as well

Kepotx

@Skooba he arleady strule to write books, and tv-show couldn't be delayed

Skooba

I still stand by Winds is done and has been done hehe

I mean in no way do I put the blame on George for the show's failures.

Like talk about tactics, sure Drogon was out of range when Dany went to meet Cersei, but Dany wasn't. Why didn't Cersei just blast her lol.

Kepotx

not even sure drogon was out of range. Euron wipe out dragons from far away

plus, scorpions have the high ground

Skooba

14:11

Dany better ring up Anakin on how that goes down

Bael the Bard

14:23

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Q: Would a legitimized Baratheon have the best claim for the Iron Throne?

In S8E4 of Game of Thrones, Doesn't that indirectly mean that outside of having the best claim for Storm's End, he also has right now the best claim for the Iron Throne since he is now the legitimate heir of Robert who was the last king, and could create a lot more problems than solve, so in t...

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Kepotx

14:53

just realize know that Gendry is now the heir of Daenerys

Aegon

15:33

@Kepotx Jon: Am I a joke to you?

Kepotx

@Aegon officially, he is still a SNow

Official succession of line => 1: Dany, 2: Gendry

Lawful succession of line => 1: Jon, 2: Dany, 3: Gendry

Aegon

@Kepotx As per show he's not a snow. I know, I know, I feel the same

He is apparently, Aegon Targaryen, who shall be sixth of that name to sit the throne

Kepotx

In the point of view of Dany, she is Queen and Gendry is the heir

Aegon

That pushes Dany one position lower in LoS for Aerys II

Kepotx

@Aegon as per the show, not everyone know this, thus the both succession line

Aegon

15:39

@Kepotx The question is tagged with show 🙈

Kepotx

I know

Aegon

Alright then, I thought you might have done that by mistake so wished to give you a head's up

Kepotx

But even in the show, there are two succession line, one if you believe Jon is Jon SNow, the other if you believce Jon is Aegon

Aegon

True

Kepotx

well, if it wasn't clear for you maybe I should rephrase my answer

Aegon

15:41

Kepotx

oh, by the way my answer is false becaus Jaeherys is inexistent in show canon

Aegon

Yup, Aerys is apparently Aegon V's son

And Aemon's nephew

Kepotx

@Aegon can't ride rhaegal anymore "You have always been my good boi"

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Q: Why does Bran continue to do this (8.04)?

In episode 8.04 (The Last of the Starks) of Games of Thrones, the story continues to march along with the characters continuing to prepare for the future by playing 'The Game of Thrones', But Bran mentions to Tyrion that he But if this was really the case, then why is Bran Besides ...

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Aegon

16:15

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Q: Why didn't Cersei kill Dany, Tyrion and rest of others?

In S08E04 we see a face-off between Cersei and Dany. She could have could Dany during the first meet before the great war also but possibly didn't because she was terrified of dragons. But now as we know she has a weapon to kill the dragons also she has the backing of people of the kings landing...

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Q: Where and what is Storm's End?

In Game of Thrones S08E04 Gendry was named the Lord of Storm's End. Where is this place? In Westeros? In the northen part or the southern part? Does this place have any history behind it? I don't think I have seen this place on the opening credits or in the show.

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Bael the Bard

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Q: Technological Advance in the Game of Thrones

It seems as if technological advancements in the GOT is unduly slow if it occurs at all. Humans appear to have the same level of weapon and transportation technology etc. in the current timeline (Jon Snow/Aegon Targaryean as King of the North) as they did prior to the original Long Night which o...

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Kepotx

well, we didn't see it in the tv show yet

Aegon

Didn't we?

Shadow baby happened there?

Kepotx

wasn't it at a war camp?

I may be wrong

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dunno

Why did Davos row her?

I thought they mixed Courtney Penrose with Renly in the show

Kepotx

oh, yeah, you were right

Bael the Bard

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Q: Samwell Tarlys status after S08E04 and punishment

In the episode: From my understanding he is still part of the Night's Watch and cannot father any children, this being a really big treason to the oath he took when he joined the Night's watch, especially since from my understanding it can happen to "sleep around", but this feels like a way bi...

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Bael the Bard

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Q: How is it believable that Euron could so easily pull off this ambush?

Daenerys has Varys on her side who is some kind of master spy. She also has Bran who can scout for her easily. She was up in the sky from where she should be able to see Euron's fleet where they were hiding before she was in range of the scorpions (if the ships could shoot at her, she should be s...

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M&TV Feeds

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Q: What did Varys actually mean?

In Game of Thrones episode s08e04 we see Varys and Tyrion having a conversation about who would be the best heir for the Iron Throne where Varys seems to try to conspire against Daenerys. Here are the last phrases of their dialogue: Varys: You know where my loyalty stands. You know I will nev...

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Q: Could Bran Stark be the rightful King under certain circumstances?

By Rhaegar and Lyanna's marriage the Starks are now technically members of the royal bloodline. Therefore if by some twist of fate Jon ends up killing Dany and goes to live in the north renouncing his claim, would it be correct to say that Bran would now be the rightful king of Westeros? He is th...

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