The Quill and Tankard

Jesse Barnett

05:17

New information has come out (they released an official statement that it crashed 100m from the carrier into the ocean) that question is no longer opinion based.. im not a part of that SE though... someone want to vote to re-open?

Edlothiad

06:36

@JesseBarnett Done, althought the right place to comment on that would be in The Pod Bay the official Space Exploration chat room as opposed to this one mainly dedicated to aSoIaF and *cough* game of thrones *cough*

Jesse Barnett

07:02

:D yeah my bad, thanks though

Edlothiad

Althought, that's an interesting way of spelling the word

But Welcome to the Tankard!

Edlothiad

07:20

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A: Why was this question about maester chains closed?

Answers should not determine whether a question is closed. Questions must stand alone. I would like to highlight a specific comment which was made on this question: @Randal'Thor If [Valorum] ever edits [his answer to the dupe target] to remove that whole section, not just the quote, then I ...

Well this just isn't true^^

JAD

@JesseBarnett reaction from one of the close-voters:

@JAD Yes, now it’s merely trivial. — Russell Borogove 54 mins ago

I kind of have to agree with that

Edlothiad

@JAD So is the seatbelt question, far more trivial in fact, watch for about 30s more and you see the seatbelt.

JAD

hmm, I didn't see that one

Edlothiad

Out of curiosity, what do the experts in this channel think of TLC and I duping those two questions? (@Aegon @Kepotx @Skooba @amflare @Möoz) (Not pinged you, JAD, because I'm assuming you'll see this) Were we wrong to close it? Was it a dupe? Should it be re-opened?

@JAD Got me to the repcap, even if it is a poor question.

JAD

hmm, I think the meta paints it badly

Basically, an answer shouldn't be edited, and then be pointed at as the dupe target

but I don't think thats exactly what happened here

Edlothiad

07:39

But you do think they're dupes?

Aegon

@Edlothiad If you ask me, On one hand, The titles are essentially different. On the other hand it has an answer in the target answer. I have voiced my concerns about that before I believe (That Question statements should be taken into account), I recall you replied that I had grossly misunderstood our dupe policy.

Edlothiad

That seems like an aggressive thing to say....

Sounds exactly like me.

JAD

XD

Aegon

So since the other answer does contain the answer for this one but I have reservations, I refrained from weighing in on this whether via hammer or at meta.

Edlothiad

While the questions should be taken into account, and should be the main test, if an answer to a new question exists as a significant portion in an older answer then they are duplicates.

I see no reason in duplicating information.

JAD

07:43

@Edlothiad now the big question is whether one sentence is a significant portion

and, maybe equally important, whether that information is findable when looking for information about double chainlinks

Edlothiad

@JAD I expressed my opinion of the significance in my meta post. I'm of the opinion that earning multiple links of the same metal drastically changes the conditions for reaching the "quota" to becoming a maester

JAD

But arguably, since exact relevant quotes were added afterwards to make the piece of information complete, the information as presented was merely a bit of trivia, but not a significant part of the answer.

Edlothiad

@JAD Well, whether or not the OP saw it fitting to pad there answer out with quotes or to merely provide a link, it's in my opinion significant, and something that should've been amended regardless of the new question.

Looks like today the Death of Star Wars was announced: starwars.com/news/…

Aegon

When's Star wars franchise going to stop making movies?

Absurd really. One fandom wouldn't give the fans the long due next book, the other just keeps popping movies out every 15 seconds

JAD

07:58

@Aegon when people stop throwing money at disney

Edlothiad

Disney owns to much, we need an inside job to take it out

Edlothiad

08:16

too*

TheLethalCarrot

08:59

@Edlothiad

“David and Dan are some of the best storytellers working today,” said Kathleen Kennedy, president of Lucasfilm. “Their command of complex characters, depth of story and richness of mythology will break new ground and boldly push Star Wars in ways I find incredibly exciting.”

I think that says it all, goodbye SW

Edlothiad

She clearly hasn't read the books...

TheLethalCarrot

I think even show watchers agree that the later seasons are poor

So maybe she hasn't seen the show too haha

Edlothiad

She's busy running an empire...

Lol, accidental ba dum tss

TheLethalCarrot

Haha

Edlothiad

Coming up to a double rep cap on Space.SE, this Falcon Heavy nonsense is easy rep.

TheLethalCarrot

09:08

Haha works for you though

TheLethalCarrot

09:21

Is it bad that when I saw that DON'T PANIC question I thought of Dad's Army first?

Edlothiad

I have no idea what that is, not a fan of that question though.

TheLethalCarrot

I downvoted the Q, don't see the point in it

And Dad's Army is an old British comedy about a group of old men as the home guard during the war

Edlothiad

Might've been more relevan on space.se

TheLethalCarrot

Aye, it's also laid way for some pretty poor answers looking at it

Lot's of "Here's some random extra information on the logo/text"

Edlothiad

And cap.

@TheLethalCarrot Agreed. I don't like lots of the questions we have. I also like the support Valorum's gotten for downvotes, although controversial Qs stay in the HNQ forever (*cough* gates *cough*)

TheLethalCarrot

09:26

Hahaha

Edlothiad

Did you also see that meta answer?

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah this one is likely to stay

@Edlothiad About the dupe? Yeah

Edlothiad

Wise words here, this is the next Nelson Mandela:

@Pryftan "The politics of SE" is why this network thrives - it has a much higher signal-to-noise ratio compared to the old forums it has replaced. Nuke all crap - this includes poorly researched questions, poorly written questions, duplicates, bad answers, etc. — pipe 28 mins ago

TheLethalCarrot

Yup he's hit the nail on the head

I also like that Valorum, DV'd the Q and refrained from answering, shows he doesn't need crappy answers to crappy questions to still be the top user

Edlothiad

TLC in a nutshell ;)

TheLethalCarrot

09:35

Hahaha, funny thing is I've only seen most of the episodes once too :P

JAD

oh hey, my question was reopened

Edlothiad

@JAD *bows*

Oh god the cross over memes from this Star Wars announcement are hilarious!

JAD

uh oh

Edlothiad

"Always two there are; no more no less. A Master and an Apprentice"

JAD

@Edlothiad I don't get it

TheLethalCarrot

09:39

@Edlothiad That one was up yesterday. I was 50/50 about posting it

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot Was it? I thought it was funny

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah I liked it, wasn't sure if you lot would though haha

Edlothiad

@JAD Dany and Jon, on a boat, you know

JAD

ah

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot Every one else probably doesn't. But I am loyal to the QOTN

JAD

09:41

haven't watched the latest star wars yet, so idk about any porking kylo might have done

Although I guess I can guess

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad Is she the master or the apprentice?

Edlothiad

I think it was just bad picture placement

Or it's a leak :O

TheLethalCarrot

Ep9 leak Kylo and Rey pork

T'is confirmed

Edlothiad

Nothing happened in Ep 8. It's about the D&D announcement.

Also the Sad Kylo twitter account is really quite funny.

JAD

inb4 I repcap of that question

Edlothiad

09:44

? Is new day... Man needs 40 q votes to cap

JAD

I already got 11, and the day is young

Edlothiad

@JAD 15 hours, and you got 6 in very short succession

TheLethalCarrot

Who wants to post a Q to help this lovely carrot grow? :P

JAD

hmm, I had a question, but I'm not sure if it's interesting

TheLethalCarrot

Is it gate related?

JAD

09:52

basically, how did the knights of the Vale manage to pass the Neck?

Did the Boltons really leave nobody to guard there?

TheLethalCarrot

For battle of bastards?

They had all their forces waiting for a big battle and they didn't think anyone would come to Jon's aid

Why would the guard it?

JAD

@TheLethalCarrot because there might be an army taking you in the back unawares

Edlothiad

If Sansa weren't there Jon would be dead. It is known

JAD

(it's kinda why I hesitated to ask it)

TheLethalCarrot

Plus the Vale are a pretty big/strong army so any force guarding it would be decimated anyway

JAD

09:54

Because it is trivially explained by: Ramsay was even dumber than Sansa ;)

TheLethalCarrot

Ramsay was cocky but I don't think he was dumb

JAD

@TheLethalCarrot from what is said in earlier books, the neck is pretty damned strong

TheLethalCarrot

He relied on Jon being stupid and more numbers

JAD

let's call it, he got ahead of himself

TheLethalCarrot

He was mainly winning because of number superiority and better discipline

Leaving 1/4 of his army to defend the Neck when he's not expecting anyone to come to Jon's aid could have turned the tide for Jon to actually overcome the numbers

JAD

09:58

I guess

> It's said that the old Kings in the North could stand at Moat Cailin and throw back hosts ten times the size of their own."

Kind of implies that 1/4th is maybe a bit much though

TheLethalCarrot

Oh yeah I only picked an arbitrary amount

Aegon

10:21

@JAD We had a question on that

But I can't find it now because probably some genius changed the title to "Why did this House do this?"

TheLethalCarrot

HNQ idiot*

Edlothiad

It's a tide ad

Aegon

The essence, as I recall, was that Boltons expected the Arryns and Baelish to be on their side

Something along the lines of Ramsay thinking to himself "Huh? Baelish? He's here a bit early isn't he?"

TheLethalCarrot

Aye forgot they'd "allied" with LF giving them Sansa

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot nearly murdered you. But it turns out I got the enlightened badge too

TheLethalCarrot

10:23

@Edlothiad I actually thought to myself "Haha! Giving Ed a bronze!" Until I realised you'd get a silver too

Aegon

5

Q: How could the Battle of the Bastards end that way?

How could Ramsay Bolton be taken by surprise by the Vale Army? They had taken the Moat Cailin, so I don't believe the Boltons knew nothing about the invasion from the south.

game-of-thrones

Here we go

Good lord, at least they didn't change it into "How could this battle end that way"?

TheLethalCarrot

At least it started out with a similar title

Aegon

Yeah just saw the edited history

Not sure if this is the one I was talking about tho

Edlothiad

When did he get royal decree?

JAD

back when he told her about Ramsay marrying Sansa.

it's right there ;)

TheLethalCarrot

10:28

He got the support of Cersei but did he actually get a decree or just word?

JAD

@TheLethalCarrot words are wind

TheLethalCarrot

Exactly

Aegon

@Edlothiad No idea.

My memories of the seasons after S03 are hazy

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot Word to your mother

TheLethalCarrot

That just makes me think of the Muller Rice advert now

BAELISH: Name me Warden of the North.

CERSEI: I’ll speak to the king this evening. Have him issue a royal decree.

BAELISH: I’ll not rest until the lion flies over Winterfell.

CERSEI: And I’ll l know you’re a man of your word when I see Sansa Stark’s head on a spike.

BAELISH: As I said. I live to serve.

He likely got the decree off screen

Edlothiad

10:34

@TheLethalCarrot You mean to say... it's a tide ad?

TheLethalCarrot

I haven't looked into what all this tide nonsense is about

Edlothiad

Some bloody good tide advertisements. They had tens of millions of dollar worth of slots, good thing all those kids were buying tide pods to eat so they could afford them.

TheLethalCarrot

Ah lucky them then

Shout out to a great underrated question :P

21

Q: Has GRRM ever confirmed that he named some ASOIAF characters after the Muppets?

In The World of Ice and Fire, we are introduced to few historical Tully characters, which are: Lord Kermit Tully Lord Elmo Tully Lord Grover Tully To those who may not be familiar with the Muppets, these three Lords share the same names as Puppet Characters from the cast of popular shows like...

a-song-of-ice-and-fire george-r-r-martin inspiration

JAD

uh

that could've been a bit more subtle

Edlothiad

11:02

Shout out to every answer by @Möoz ever, just bring some of his nation’s humour into every one of his posts!

TheLethalCarrot

He does have good answers

TheLethalCarrot

11:15

I think I need to come up with some self answers, I've looked through 2 pages of ASOIAF Q's and found nothing to add

Aegon

12:57

@TheLethalCarrot Heh I had the same thought myself. "TLC has the right idea. Instead of crawling through the entire collection, I should post my own questions and then answer those."

TheLethalCarrot

Yup, instead I can't think of any now though haha

Edlothiad

Feb 4 at 8:24, by Edlothiad

@Aegon Unless you're amflare, then you just say "Trees in GoT also grow on trunks and have leaves, therefore faithful" and get 250 million upvotes

I trust you can derive a question out of that excellent answer

JAD

Do trees in Game of Thrones have doors?

2

Edlothiad

IT REFUSES TO DIE

Also I've just been looking through our stars and noticed something most terrible...

Kepotx

@JAD here are 4 picture of random trees. give me some upvotes

Edlothiad

13:10

@Kepotx EVEN THE NEW GUY IS OUT TO SLAY AMFLARE!

*Initiation complete*

Congratulations Kepotx, and welcome to the Kingsman

Kepotx

I am honored, sir

TheLethalCarrot

Ser*

You still have much to learn young padawan

Kepotx

sure. including english by the way

TheLethalCarrot

Well sir is the English spelling, ser is the ASOIAF spelling haha

Kepotx

I know, but still, i make some basic mistakes

TheLethalCarrot

13:12

But yeah, you definitely know more English than I know other languages

To be fair, you probably know more English than I do haha

Edlothiad

Apparently we have 601 stars, why are only 578 stars showing up

:thinking: We have proof!

TheLethalCarrot

I wondered that the other day when Amf moaned about the star count going down

Kepotx

the mods are bored that wi give stars for meaningless messages so they decide to remove somes

Edlothiad

Ranger's Log: 07/02/2018 13:14 UTC, 578 Stars shown, expected 601 based on previous data

Damn I should've called it Ranger's Log...

I bet it's Skooba removing pro Sansa stars...

@TheLethalCarrot Ummm......

@Edlothiad UMMMMMMMMMMMM.......

Kepotx

Edlothiad

13:19

That was quite funny, even with my limited french

Kepotx

by the powers conferred upon me, and by this sword

I make you companion of the brotherhood

JAD

lol

Kepotx

of the cut ears

JAD

chop chop, now rise ser

Kepotx

WELCOME !

Aegon

13:21

@Edlothiad ONE OF US, ONE OF US, ONE OF US

JAD

THE KING IN THE NORTH!

Edlothiad

@JAD DAKINGEENDANORF

Kepotx

2

TheLethalCarrot

That had me laughing more than it should

JAD

13:37

lol, that small "the queen is: in" sign

TheLethalCarrot

Haha didn't even notice that

Aegon

SFW?

JAD

Hmm

Do all Targaryen's have blonde-silver hair?

Aegon

@JAD Nopes

Edlothiad

ERRRRRRRRRRR

No not Tyrion

Aegon

13:41

Some have pure silver, some have streaks of gold running

JAD

Is King in the North an example of the seed is maybe not so strong?

Aegon

That's of course excluding the half targaryens

Edlothiad

Umm, the Baratheon seed is strong. Not all seeds.

JAD

@Edlothiad I know I know

Aegon

24

Q: Why does Jon Snow have dark hair?

Spoilers for Season 6 Episode 10 and Season 7 of Game of Thrones. I have tagged this question also with a-song-of-ice-and-fire because I am interested about eventual book details that didn't make it into the show. I know that in the books Jon's ancestry is still a mystery, but I suppose it won'...

game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire

@Edlothiad GODS I WAS STRONG THEN

Edlothiad

13:42

I don't get your point then

Kepotx

if the dark hair gene > blond hair gene, it can also beat targ hair

Edlothiad

@Aegon GET THE SEED STRETCHER

Aegon

@Edlothiad CAREFUL ED, CAREFUL NOW

Edlothiad

@Aegon BLONDE HAIR, ON AN OPEN SEED NED!

Aegon

@Kepotx It can and it does. Not 100% but it sure does

Edlothiad

13:43

Jon Snow is the #SeedThatWasPromised

Aegon

@Edlothiad THE BOAR IS PREGNANT

Edlothiad

@Aegon THE FIELD IS PREGNANT ON AN OPEN BOAR!

Kepotx

does GRR MArtin ever say that Planetos genetics works the same way as our world genetics ?

Aegon

@Kepotx He says "It's fantasy man, it's magic" to people seeking all sort of scientific answers

JAD

@Kepotx Well, no. Genetics is never as simple as A + B = A

Edlothiad

13:44

The real question is does GRRM ever say what Aerys II's tax policies were?

@Aegon I say that, and then @JAD cries about "It can have some realism" and all y'all crazies go starring it

Man's just speaking WOG here.

Aegon

@Edlothiad Raising taxes, blaming it on tywin, retracting the increase in taxes, look like a nice bloke

Edlothiad

@Aegon Shut up :P

JAD

but there is a difference between fantasy and magic kind of non-realism, like a dragon shaped tower, like having your castle on the top of a mountain, etc. Sure, those things would be impossible, but are now explained with magic... fine.

What bothered me about Winterfell was the side of realism that required explaining why people built it that way. Explaining impossible towers and structures with magic, fine. Explaining dumb decisions with magic, not so much.

Edlothiad

I forget what the "dumb decisions" was but I'm pretty sure we solved it.

JAD

Having a moat inside your walls

instead of outside

TheLethalCarrot

13:51

It's not a moat, it's a lazy river

JAD

that changes everything

Kepotx

but there are two walls, if the moat is between the two, it's ok

motte and balley castle have sometimes wall-motte-walls

JAD

hmm doesn't matter, I couldn't find any examples at the time

I just wanted to further explain my "cry about realism"

Kepotx

one thing that upset me in tv show is the flatness of winterfell roof

the more you go in the north, the more the roof are sloping, so the snow dont stay in the roof

but winterfell is flat, hope bran the builder make solid enough roof

Edlothiad

Are they flat, or is Bran the Builder a wizard?

TheLethalCarrot

13:59

You're a wizard Branny

JAD

back then, they relied on dragons to melt the snow

Aegon

14:12

@JAD Winterfell has two keeps. The inner keep has to have defenses as well

JAD

@Aegon Thats what I thought as well, but nope

It's laid out as follows: Wall -> Moat -> Wall

Aegon

@Kepotx Wonder if the warm water running inside the walls would have some impact on that

JAD

no space in between

Aegon

Winterfell is built on hot springs after all and it is never cold

@JAD I don't see the problem, maybe I am missing something. Care to elaborate?

TheLethalCarrot

That's why it's a lazy river, quite relaxing in the warm floating around

@Aegon I think the point is it's harder to get your forces to the outer walls in case of an attack

JAD

14:15

this

Aegon

Wall->Gate->Drawbridge->Moat->Draw bridge->Gate->Wall

JAD

it is actually experienced by Theon

Edlothiad

We discussed the bridge

Aegon

@TheLethalCarrot Not as difficult as your foe sneaking getting their troops inside. Is it explicitly mentioned that the Wall-walks aren't joined by overhead bridges? Protected by gates? Or there are simply no draw bridges to allow your troops to the outerwalls?

It is weird tho, There should be Barracks right behind the outerwalls, for Soldiers who are supposed to defend the Outerwall and hold it until reinforcements could be called

Edlothiad

We had this discussion a while ago, I'm not going to try and find all the quotes again

Aegon

14:18

@Edlothiad Find the link then?

JAD

@Aegon there are no ways to get from the top of the inner wall to the top of the outer wall

TheLethalCarrot

@Aegon Protected by gates? @amf you around?

JAD

We found that to get to the outer wall, there were gates in the inner wall, with a drawbridge that led to the outer wall, but not through it

Aegon

@JAD It shouldn't be hard get a swinging ropes and planks bridge going

JAD

but if you're short on men, that quickly becomes a one-way path

Edlothiad

14:19

@Aegon FINE, but you're not my real dad!

Aegon

You're grounded young man, for the sass

Edlothiad

I think it begins here

Aegon

Oh @Skooba is here. How's it going Skoobs?

JAD

> "The direwolves," Theon said. "Both of them, at a guess." Disgusted, he walked back to the drawbridge. Winterfell was encircled by two massive granite walls, with a wide moat between them. The outer wall stood eighty feet high, the inner more than a hundred. Lacking men, Theon had been forced to abandon the outer defenses and post his guards along the higher inner walls. He dared not risk having them on the wrong side of the moat should the castle rise against him.

Aegon

@JAD But it doesn't imply that the moat takes up all the space between the two keeps?

JAD

14:23

not that one specifically

Skooba

@Aegon going well.

Not sure how I feel about D&D getting a Star Wars contract

TheLethalCarrot

The Adventures of Luke Whitewalker, Han Drogo and Wun Wun the Wookie. Luke is a sullen orphan (so he thinks) being trained by Ol' Benjen Kenobi to become a Jedi Maester. But will he fall in love with Danny Organa? Why is she so familiar?

Aegon

@Skooba Well, Star Wars is Sansa, D&D are Ramsay, Disney is Reek

TheLethalCarrot

@TheLethalCarrot (credit)

Edlothiad

@Aegon I'm not getting this analogy

Aegon

14:28

It's like this in my head

Edlothiad

Still doesn't mean people can get from wall to wall.

Aegon

@Edlothiad Not directly yes, but that's the point of having two walls

Edlothiad

JAD doesn't like it.

Aegon

@Edlothiad "Get her ready Reek"....no? kthxbye

Edlothiad

Still not getting it...

Aegon

14:30

Just a meme that I scrolled by moments ago

Visual media is helpful I suppose

Edlothiad

OHHHH YOU MEAN Star Wars is Jeyne Poole?! I see.

Aegon

Jeyne Poole

But yes

Edlothiad

@Aegon You can say that again ;)

@JAD what's wrong with the drawing above again?

amflare

@TheLethalCarrot hmm?

TheLethalCarrot

Well you are our resident expert :P

amflare

14:34

How to get men on top of a castle walls? Well, if it is before 1853 they take the stairs

Skooba

@TheLethalCarrot hah thats good

@Aegon you think star wars is dumb and never learns from its mistakes?

That D&D are cruel and abusive for sake of being that

that Disney is somehow subservient to D&D?

i might switch those last two

Disney is def. in "control"

Edlothiad

The only "mistake" Star Wars has made is Solo, so we don't know if it's had the opportunity to learn yet.

Aegon

@Skooba Nah I mean SW is effed...Interesting to see that Ed didn't get all worked up over your interpretation that Sansa is dumb and never learns from her mistakes

@Skooba Well Disney are getting it ready. By funding and all

Skooba

@Aegon oh i get it now

light... bulb...

Anyone going to participate on Constructed Languages for dothraki?

Edlothiad

@Aegon Was it? I'm pretty sure I'd mentioned the other day that i'm pretty bored of this faux admiration for Sansa and the anti-sansa circle jerk. I have my differing opinions on a character and it seems like it isn't going to change, I'm happy leaving it there.

Aegon

14:48

@Skooba makes creepy guttural noises.....That's good enough

@Edlothiad Must have missed it then

Edlothiad

Constructed languages is a poor name...

@Aegon Well don't miss this one then ;)

Aegon

Oh wouldn't dream of it

How do different languages sound like in your heads?

Edlothiad

@Aegon The same...

Aegon

High Valyrian: Latin
Free cities dialects: Italian
Common Tongue: English (Duh)
Dothraki: Old Turkic

Edlothiad

Lol Italian = Latin

High Valyrian sounds more like Sindarin to myself

Aegon

14:55

@Edlothiad That's the point. It's close enough.....but not the same

Edlothiad

Free cities I felt to be different to Free city dialects

Aegon

Qarth would be idk something like Arabic

Ghiscari hmm some mixture of German with some oriental language cus it is supposed to sound rough with an eastern touch

@Edlothiad Sindarin is elf tongue?

Kepotx

like latin gave vulgar latin that gave italian, french, spanish, high valyrian could be the basis of free cities dialects, so close in sounds

Aegon

@Kepotx You get it

Edlothiad

@Aegon an Elven tongue.

Aegon

14:58

@Edlothiad Do the Elves in Rivendale and those of the Woodland realm speak different languages?

Edlothiad

@Aegon German is beautiful, you take that back...

Aegon

@Edlothiad Idk always sounded harsh and rough to me

French and Persian on the other hand sound very sweet

TheLethalCarrot

All the languages just sound like the Clangers to me

Edlothiad

@Aegon Well Rivendell is Noldorin primarily so they speak both Sindarin and Noldorin, the Woodland realms speak are Silvan elves which I believe speak Sindarin

Kepotx

@Aegon depends of the context, when you listen an opera and hitler speechs, both are german but the first seems more beatifull to ear than the second

Edlothiad

14:59

@Aegon I've never thought french to be as "sweet" as everyone seems to make it sound

Especially when every other word that comes out of a Frenchman's mouth is uhhhh

Aegon

@Kepotx Haven't heard German Opera. But did listen to some medieval songs l

I forgot the name but it was about Crusades

And had something like Ich bin Kommen an die stadt

And Gott menschlechen trat something like that

amflare

@Edlothiad personally I think it should not be dupped. The questions are nothing alike.

Kepotx

Dude, do you even An die Freude ?

Ode to joy, anthem of europe

and one of the best part of 9th symphony of bethoven

Aegon

@Edlothiad haha for me every single word coming out of a Frenchman is "sh" or "gh" sound for some reason

Edlothiad

@amflare The questions are alike enough in my opinion that they allow for the answers litmus test

Aegon

15:03

gh you know the sound they make with r

Kepotx

not an opera though

Edlothiad

The rolled r?

amflare

Sure Valorums all encompassing answer included the short answer @the, gave, but now no one else can add an answer that would be exclusive to the multi-link question

Aegon

But I think that's common between Francais and Deutsch

amflare

@Edlothiad what are you on and why aren't you sharing

Edlothiad

15:04

@amflare The newer ties relevantly into the first question, as outlined in my meta post.

Aegon

@Kepotx Nopes, never heard Beethoven other than some tracks that come with Windows

amflare

Tie-in != dup

Aegon

Did listen to Wagner some but that too thanks to the Valkyries

amflare

thats the ones that you post "related not a dup" in the comments

Edlothiad

It allows for the answer test, which it then failed

The answer provided in the second, is in my opinion a major player in the answer given to the first, since it's duplicated info, we close as dupe. GG, no re.

Skooba

15:12

@Aegon got an handy quotes for the construction of Dothraki language handy?

from the show?

TheLethalCarrot

blog.ted.com/…

Maybe

I didn't bother reading it

Edlothiad

That site looks like it's people asking about languages constructed in fictional universes (so all on-topic here) and not so much people constructing their own languages, I don't see a purpose

Skooba

just realizing that there aren't many questions on SFF about Dothraki.....

Aegon

@Skooba Nopes, I don't even know who is constructing the language haha

Möoz

18:26

@Edlothiad thanks mate, you're a right champion.

Bael the Bard

18:44

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Q: Why didn't Robert keep the Stormlands after the rebellion?

After the rebellion, Robert give the Stormlands to his brother, but why didn't he keep the Stormlands for himself, to have much more power?

game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire

Kepotx

19:03

i like the fact that there is no answer since half an hour and 3 answer in just two minutes

Skooba

@Kepotx lol

FIRST!

Kepotx

bow over ser Skooba

Skooba

19:30

hmm if Robert was being fostered in the Vale, yet still Lord of the Storm's End, who actually ruling it?

Kepotx

was he still fostered when he became lord paamount ?

Skooba

it is implied

because the whole reason the Rebellion started is because Jon Arryn refised to hand Ned and Robert over to the Mad King

I take that to mean they were still in the Vale...

but the Rebellion started in 282 while his parents died in 278

so that 4 years which even by their standards is a long time.

and Robert was 16 when his parents died, old enough to rule in his own right. Robb was 16 when he was crowned King in the North.

Kepotx

another point is that the first battle is at gulltown, in the vale, and not in the stormlands

Skooba

hmm and that is a question I don't know the answer to..... @Aegon HELP!

also

Why did Ned and Robert think that Jaime would inherit the Rock? He was Kingsgaurd.... I guess they just knew Tywin et al would find a way to get him out of it?

Kepotx

19:49

where is it implied ?

Skooba

"Kingslayer," Ned said. The rumors were true, then. He rode on dangerous ground now, he knew. "An able and courageous man, no doubt," he said carefully, "but his father is Warden of the West, Robert. In time Ser Jaime will succeed to that honor. No one man should hold both East and West." He left unsaid his real concern; that the appointment would put half the armies of the realm into the hands of Lannisters.

"I will fight that battle when the enemy appears on the field," the king said stubbornly. "At the moment, Lord Tywin looms eternal as Casterly Rock, so I doubt that Jaime will be succeeding anytime soon. Don't vex me about this, Ned, the stone has been set."

Kepotx

maybe, if it's just after the sack of KL, ned though he would be fired of the kingsguard

oh

quite strange, yu are right

Kepotx

22:16

@Skooba got it

they say he will succeed to that honor => he speak of the title of warden of the west, not lord paramount

as warden is a title and not a land, jaime can be warden of the west without being lord paramount of the rock

Kepotx

22:40

after 6 month, finally edit my profile picture

behold my hometown coat of arms!

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