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Kepotx

00:43

good job ^^

TheLethalCarrot

09:00

@Edlothiad Nope, though she does draw a lot

@Kepotx We have a couple of other examples of Springs/Autumns and most are only a year long

Kepotx

i still have no access to wiki for whatever reason

but as i see it, some events like red sprinf occur in spring, but tha does not mean that spring is only one year

TheLethalCarrot

Okay doke, if someone hasn't answered before I get chance I might write something yp

Kepotx

same for the great spring sickness

if you have some evidence, i would be glad to read your answer

TheLethalCarrot

I haven't looked into it beyond the page on wiki yet but sure

There's only 3 of known length though

Each lasting a yearish like the 299AC - 300AC autumn

Kepotx

also i remember one page (probably wiki) where there are some calculation of date between chapters

could be a good bases to get the length of the autumn

TheLethalCarrot

09:16

Probably there's age/birth calculations of the characters, timeline of the major events, known seasons etc

There's a page for each year though most aren't filled out

So now I have 2 answers to write up and no time :P

I might be able to make some time this morning ;P

Kepotx

same, im more active this days because boring lessons, but today's lesspn is interesting :)

TheLethalCarrot

Hahaha

I'm sort of between tasks at work so I can stall a bit if I want

Edlothiad

No one is at work, lazy day for meeeee

@TheLethalCarrot vv

TheLethalCarrot

Not surprised

And awesome lucky you

JAD

what quote?

TheLethalCarrot

09:25

That article I linked yesterday

Apparently she said S8 would air in April 2019

@Edlothiad Do you want the 1977 LOTR trilogy?

Edlothiad

Wow those newest leaks from /u/gettingbetsywetsy are terrible, it just mumbles some crap and then says "sorry I'm tired"

TheLethalCarrot

Hahaha haven't looked

Like I said got bored of the crap

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot I don't know if they'll ship here

TheLethalCarrot

Probably not saw it last night thought you'd like it

That ebay page is great cos it's a charities one

Get lots of weird and wonderful things on there

Edlothiad

Yeah, thanks a lot. I've actually been staying away from purchasing them cuz I'm running low on pounds, but still nice

Although it's a 5th impression, which isn't that valuable, and a tenner seems a lot if it weren't a charity

TheLethalCarrot

09:29

Ah right I wasn't sure what they were worth

Edlothiad

I got the copies of HoME that I have from oxfam, unfortunate thing is I'm missing random ones that others had bought :( although it was 2 quid each as opposed to 20

Well they're probably sellable for about a tenner per book, but I don't value them very highly, they're quite pretty though.

TheLethalCarrot

Ah nice and yeah I hate when they sell sets seperatly

They have some LOTR goblets on there at the moment and they're clearly a set but they're selling them individually

They are horrible though :P

Edlothiad

I don't really purchase merchandise, I have no use for it, I just like the look of books

Although again I've slowed down because I'm poor and already have 4 different LotR copies :/

TheLethalCarrot

Hahaha

I have a Star Wars collection but nothing else

Edlothiad

Abbey Road LP for 11GBP, that's insane!

TheLethalCarrot

09:35

Is that one good price?

I think it is but I dunno

Edlothiad

I'd assume so, an OG LP that crap could sell for a lot, especially with it's album sleeve

TheLethalCarrot

Aye I suppose

Just gotta get the right person looking for it

There's lots of things that are going for way more than they should do or a lot less than you'd think. I guess it just depends on who sees it and has the money

@Edlothiad Exhibit A

Edlothiad

Yeah exactly, ebay is a strange place. I nearly bought a Silmarillion 1st ed 1st print for 30GBP (pretty cheap) when I saw one come up for 2.50GBP, with a 1st ed 1st print UT and Letters, total postage was about 3GBP so for a tenner I got 3 1st eds 1st prints, instead of 1 for 30

Was v happy

TheLethalCarrot

Awesome

Edlothiad

I'll try and keep it on topic now lol

TheLethalCarrot

09:43

Haha you just love your books

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot Of memorabilia? I'd consider getting some Star Wars things if I had a house

I just want my parents to build their bloody library already so I can fill it...

TheLethalCarrot

I'd love a library but you need a big house haha

Edlothiad

Just have a whole corner dedicated to High Fantasy, speaking of which, I should probably get ASOIAF 1st printings while they're cheap none of that crap with HBO printed on the front

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad Yeah some old stuff, some new disney crap and a few other things

And I have my Longclaw too :P

Edlothiad

Ah yes ofc. I, moving countries every 2-3 years, can't carry that much "junk" around :(

TheLethalCarrot

09:44

@Edlothiad I had a quick look last night theyr're still quite a lot

Lol

Edlothiad

Ye like GBP 20 or something aren't they?

As opposed to like 50000

TheLethalCarrot

Not the ones I saw but they might have been different editions

Edlothiad

ebay.co.uk/itm/…

TheLethalCarrot

The page I linked has this ASoS

@Edlothiad Not bad if you have one of those lygin around haha

@TheLethalCarrot I have no idea how much it's actually worth though haha

Edlothiad

It's hard to tell if they're 1st ed 1st print without the opening page to check and confirm it.

TheLethalCarrot

09:51

Aye

Edlothiad

ebay.co.uk/itm/…

Rip, not cheap...

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah those were the prices I was seeing haha

Edlothiad

Ruh roh... Maybe not then...

You must be able to get AFFC and ADWD for reasonable amounts

TheLethalCarrot

Oh no Shaggy!

Edlothiad

Like this: ebay.co.uk/itm/…

Ye AFFC 25GBP: ebay.co.uk/itm/…

TheLethalCarrot

09:56

Yeah you're only really paying for the first 3 at the momrnt

Edlothiad

Buy now sell for 50000 in 50 years...: ebay.co.uk/itm/…

Probably the best 1st collection set for a reasonable price: ebay.co.uk/itm/…

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah just gotta hope it's still popular in 50 years haha

I told you about my win/lose with steam game items didn't I?

Edlothiad

These are still nice: ebay.co.uk/itm/…

@TheLethalCarrot No?

Is it worth shelling out GBP 500 for AGOT, ACOK and ASOS first eds now and saving money in the long run?

Kepotx

well, lot of person do speculation about seald videogames

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad I bought in game items for PUBG for £50 each knowing they'd get popular and then sold them for £100-£150. After which the price started dropping so I thought I'd won. They now sell for £200-£600 last I looked :(

Kepotx

10:00

pretty sure that somes do the same for books, buying just to sell it some years after

Edlothiad

Oh ya, and we discussed how it was still a win

TheLethalCarrot

Still a win but now where near what it could have been

Edlothiad

Use the money to buy first eds for 500 gbp

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

Kepotx

better, we gather all our money to by ALL first eds, so the price go ups much faster and much higher

TheLethalCarrot

10:02

Hoard them all yeah :P

Edlothiad

Paha...

I wonder if it's on-topic to ask what the original printings of each book look like, it's proving difficult to find

You could get all the first editions for around 500GBP

Kepotx

maybe it woud be better-suited to ak it on litterature SE

Edlothiad

> Behind-the-scenes and fandom information

TheLethalCarrot

I suppose it'd be on topic but it'd probably attract some CVs/DVs

Edlothiad

TheLethalCarrot

10:11

Lol

So the UK First Edition is the hardback with the Jim Burns cover released in 1996, US First Edition is the one with the silver foil cove

Edlothiad

I'm guessing the UK 1st ed is probably cheaper

And all the US First eds have the silver foil cover?

They're ugly

TheLethalCarrot

No idea that's just what one westeros user said haha

Edlothiad

ACOK 1st ed 2nd print $250, ye... no

TheLethalCarrot

lol

I think these ones are UK first editions, at least that cover anyway perhaps not those exact books

And this is the US one

Edlothiad

Ye I think these are the 5 UK ones: ebay.co.uk/itm/…

TheLethalCarrot

10:16

Yeah

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot I believer that's correct

@Edlothiad although you could probably get them individually for about 600GBP the slip cases add to the books

TheLethalCarrot

I should become an edition expert for books and make a load of money haha

Edlothiad

"make a load of money" how do you propose that?

TheLethalCarrot

buy low sell high :P

Edlothiad

Ah in that sense, you'd have to predict which books hit cult status etc...

TheLethalCarrot

10:22

Oh yeah I know

Actually scroll to the end here GRRM tells us what the 1st editions were

georgerrmartin.com/for-fans/faq

@Kepotx I was writing an answer up for you but I can't actually find any information on the start/end dates :/

Edlothiad

Might be worth snapping up a UK first ed for 250GBP then, and just see if it gets any higher.

TheLethalCarrot

If I had the money I would

Edlothiad

I mean I have the money, but that's not how I was planning on spending it

Kepotx

even if there is no specific date, some qutes sayng that spring/automn are only one year event and/or some quotes sayng that spring/autumn is shorter than winter/summer would be ok

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad Same here most is savings to buy a house

@Kepotx Yeah I might leave some of them as wiki sourced :/

Edlothiad

10:40

@TheLethalCarrot BOOOOO

@TheLethalCarrot Meh too young and unsure to plan for that. More like funding for a Masters, beer fund, Rugby tops, etc.

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

Edlothiad

There are a few things I still want to accomplish before I consider myself a true adult...

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad I'm booing myself but everything looks correct and the information is fine then you search the books for quotes and turn up nothing

Edlothiad

Wait for someone to say they want lunch or just grab a sandwich and come back?

TheLethalCarrot

What are you on about? :/

Edlothiad

10:44

Food, it's just me and one other guy who I regularly eat with. And he's not getting up for lunch, so I might just go grab a sandwich and come back and eat at my desk

TheLethalCarrot

That's what I do when other people are busy or not around

I mean there's only 4/5 of us anyway haha

Edlothiad

It'd be a bit of a sad day after eating cereal out of my pocket for breakfast cuz I was late

TheLethalCarrot

Hahaha

Hope you didn't put milk on it

Kepotx

milk on a pocket ? yep, it would be a bad idea

Edlothiad

No milk, just a ziplock with cereals

Got a ton of dirty looks, especially when I dropped one and picked it up to throw away later.

TheLethalCarrot

10:48

Haha it's like when me and my gf take her cousin out people look at us like we just spat in their face cos they assume he's our kid

Should I post this answer or not? I'm mainly just quoting off of the wiki :/

Kepotx

and you cant access to the source of wiki itself ?

TheLethalCarrot

It doesn't cite it's sources

Kepotx

gosh

also, do you know ho handle ASearchOfICeANdFire ?

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah

Kepotx

a way to improve it would be to add the world of ice and fire

TheLethalCarrot

10:57

I could probably go a long round about way to prove it but it's make the answer massive and would probably just be pointless

Edlothiad

Sandwich and free croissant it is

TheLethalCarrot

Nice one

Kepotx

the are lot of canon-source in wiki that quote it

TheLethalCarrot

Aye, asearchof does have TWOIAF though

Kepotx

oh, didn't notice it, my bad

TheLethalCarrot

10:58

Meh I'm not gonna post it, it's pretty crap

Edlothiad

@Kepotx It's there, no?

Kepotx

as you want. maybe some link in comments could be good ?

Edlothiad

Post it in here

(I want to read it)

Kepotx

yep, same for me

TheLethalCarrot

My answer? I discarded it

Edlothiad

11:02

arrrrrrgh

TheLethalCarrot

I will link you to the wiki page if you want haha

awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Westeros#Known_seasons

Spring 209-210
Autumn 230/231
Autumn 299-300

The spring is also when the Great Spring Sickness occurred

Kepotx

never notice that there were two red springs

TheLethalCarrot

Year of the red spring and the red spring apparently

Edlothiad

Ok steal another croissant

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

Edlothiad

11:18

Well that was a mission

TheLethalCarrot

Did you accidentally pick up a dog then realise it wasn't right and picked up a sloth then finally get your croissant?

Edlothiad

Lol

JAD

11:49

Pain au chocolat <3

Kepotx

12:00

chocolatine <3

(sorry for the french private joke)

Edlothiad

Pain of chocolates!

Kepotx

I want to ask a question about how long could a man survive in sky cells (hypothermia and such). is it more suited in SFF or Worlbuilding with reality-check tag ?

Edlothiad

I don't know about wb, but if you're asking with regards to health, it's a science question.

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah doubt it'd be a good fit for SFF

Kepotx

yup, i hardly doubt that one could survive really long (even more on rainy days)

JAD

12:08

@Kepotx don't discount the psychological side

the tilted floors and subsequent lack of sleep

Kepotx

yes, even if my first though is that you don't have time to become mad before beeing killed, but i could be totally wrong, im not a medic

Edlothiad

I've watched too many KSP videos, I'm upset these guys are so creative

Kepotx

i mean, you can survive several days without sleeping

kerbal space program ?

Edlothiad

Lets just say one would probably through themselves out of the cell before long

@Kepotx exactamundo.

JAD

Hmm, do we have any info on how high the Eyrie is?

Edlothiad

12:11

Exhibit A: youtube.com/watch?v=njPylbInymQ

Kepotx

dou you mean above the sea level ? or the tower itself above ground ?

Edlothiad

@JAD High enough to scream NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPE on the way down.

TheLethalCarrot

@JAD It is one Eyrie tall

JAD

@Kepotx sea level, to get an idea of temperature and climate

TheLethalCarrot

Read this

reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/3djt5a/…

JAD

12:13

@TheLethalCarrot del-pls naa

TheLethalCarrot

I'm too lazy to post the quotes

Kepotx

well, its in the same level of braavos, and dont have the same climate at all

the books also talk about sound and coldness of wind

i suppose that the wind have also effect on hypothermia

JAD

@Kepotx maybe, although with the alcoves it might be you're somewhat shielded

TheLethalCarrot

Should I remove the Rock/Skagos sections from my answer or do you think they're fine even though speculative?

Kepotx

well, you make it explicit that it's speculative, seems ok for me

TheLethalCarrot

12:20

Aye I started off so confident I was going to get sources for everything and it went downhill, just like your question haha

Edlothiad

12:46

Now there's cake! But a crowd of people around it :/

TheLethalCarrot

Lucky get

Though we do have Kit Kat's

Kepotx

the cake is a lie...

Edlothiad

13:17

3 croissants and a petit slice of cake

TheLethalCarrot

Good day for you then

Edlothiad

Hell ya! Normally I'm starving at this time...

TheLethalCarrot

Haha, I've just eaten so normally I'm fine at this time :P

Edlothiad

The day took a good turn from 3h ago:

3 hours ago, by Edlothiad

It'd be a bit of a sad day after eating cereal out of my pocket for breakfast cuz I was late

TheLethalCarrot

Sure did

Edlothiad

13:19

Don't even think I'll be hungry for dinner

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

Edlothiad

I saw that but I ... oh

Red Wedding :'(

TheLethalCarrot

Haha

Edlothiad

Nov 22 '17 at 15:06, by amflare

(This joke might be too meta for the newbies)

TheLethalCarrot

Oh I get it

Took me a while too

Edlothiad

13:29

@TheLethalCarrot :facepalm: you made the original one...

TheLethalCarrot

I didn't have to click through though :)

I know haha

Edlothiad

Vγ˙=L∗cosσ/m−gcosγ+2ω2cbVcosδsinχ+V2cosγ/R+ω2cbRcosδ(cosδcosγ+sinγsinδcosχ)

That looks gross...

TheLethalCarrot

Lol what's it for?

Edlothiad

Analitically finding the bank angle that minimizes the flight angle rate?

TheLethalCarrot

It's horrible in the formatted form too

Edlothiad

13:32

Yep, it's not better paha

Kepotx

13:46

@Edlothiad yup, don't get it

JAD

@Edlothiad the famous downstar right?

Edlothiad

Ah Jad remembers

JAD

@Edlothiad The Jad remembers

Edlothiad

Top tip for anyone who wants some rep, if you see a LotR or Hobbit question about the films. Start with the header "This is not what happened in the books" then provide the correct quote from the books and watch yourself hit the rep cap.

Kepotx

0

Q: How long could someone survive in "Sky cell" like prison?

In the fiction A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones, one high castle in the mountains, the Eyrie, have so called sky cells. Those cells are left open to the cold sky. The eyrie is several thousand feet above the valley below, in a mountainous region. As it's open, the prisoners suffers from w...

TheLethalCarrot

14:22

@Edlothiad I don't see what was wrong with my downstar :P

amflare

14:40

@TheLethalCarrot I'm more impressed that Ed kept the permalink for it on hand.

Edlothiad

@amflare "Kept the permalink for it on hand" Oh my sweet summer child, are you really so naïve?

amflare

Knowing you man, I would not be suprised

Edlothiad

What does that mean?

I don't even keep copy pasteable comments for 1st posts on hand

TheLethalCarrot

I bet you have a ed.wikia somewhere with all your handy little links

amflare

@Edlothiad At one point I was under the impression that you kept some sort of master doc of all the important things you found on SFF (mostly meta stuff).

I'm now a little less sure

Edlothiad

14:45

@amflare Oh yea, I did, I haven't looked at that or touched it in a while. I just google things now

@TheLethalCarrot Pahah! That's a great Idea. SFF wikia

TheLethalCarrot

15:00

Isn't that called meta? :P

Edlothiad

Yeah, but not easily organised, policies aren't tagged as such, most recent discussions on matters aren't up to date, etc

TheLethalCarrot

I know :)

Edlothiad

Jan 26 at 12:35, by TheLethalCarrot

I like how sometimes you ignore the bait and other times you go all in after it until the hook is so far through your lip you can't talk anymore

TheLethalCarrot

15:17

Hahaha

TheLethalCarrot

15:49

@Edlothiad Turns out that question you was asking here the other day was already asked

Edlothiad

Would ya look at that!

TheLethalCarrot

Haha

It's getting hard to have an original thought round here :P

Edlothiad

At 1k questions...

TheLethalCarrot

Including dupes :P

amflare

@TheLethalCarrot Thats exactly what I said

(ba dum tisss)

Edlothiad

16:05

Lol

Kepotx

16:17

do we know how high are the sky cells ? the only exact high I have is 600 foot, wich is the fifference between eyrie and the ground, but i would also like to have an aproximative heigh above the sea level

TheLethalCarrot

4 hours ago, by TheLethalCarrot

https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/3djt5a/no_spoilers_how_tall_and_wide_is‌_the_eyrie_of_the/

and

4 hours ago, by TheLethalCarrot

I'm too lazy to post the quotes

Kepotx

thanks

Edlothiad

lol

amflare

@Kepotx well the eyrie is on top of a 3.5 mile tall mountain

So I imagine thats a good approximation

Kepotx

@amflare wiki say it's astride giants lance and not on the top of it

it seems that there are several (speculative and contradictive) answers...

amflare

16:26

No, its balanced on the very tippy top.

More seriously though, astride means "on or over" thefreedictionary.com/astride

Kepotx

oh

thank you

Edlothiad

18:36

“Canon” also Ted Naismith is great

JAD

20:36

hmm, I always imagined the winch to be in a shaft cut into the mountain

Kepotx

21:32

yes, so it less affected by wind

JAD

yep

> The Eyrie clings to the mountain directly above Sky, and in its cellars are six great winches with long iron chains to draw supplies up from below. If you prefer, my lord of Lannister, I can arrange for you to ride up with the bread and beer and apples."

The winches coming from the cellar might have done that for me

> Someone shoved the bucket hard. It swayed and tipped, scraped against the floor, then swung free. She heard the crack of Mord's whip and the rattle of the chain. They began to descend, by jerks and starts at first, then more smoothly. The Eyrie shrank above them. The sky cells on the lower levels made the castle look something like a honeycomb from below. A honeycomb made of ice, Alayne thought, a castle made of snow. She could hear the wind whistling round the bucket.

nope, it's outside

> The sky cells on the lower levels made the castle look something like a honeycomb from below.

else there was no way to see the sky cells

Bael the Bard

21:58

0

Q: Are there any real-life parallels to the Night's Watch?

In A Song of Ice and Fire (and also in the series Game of Thrones), the Night's Watch is a peculiar institution: Regardless of its actual usefulness, it serves a supposedly "vital" function which was originally considered an honorable endeavor by all cultures which partook in the tradition. In ot...

a-song-of-ice-and-fire inspiration history

Bael the Bard

22:47

0

Q: Is there any non-westerosi in the Night's Watch?

When anwering a recent question about real-life parallels to the Night's Watch, one question spring to my mind: Is there any non-westerosi in the Night's Watch? Are all soldiers from the seven kingdom's, or are there any soldiers from Essos (or other non-westerosi areas)?

game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire

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