The Quill and Tankard

Aegon

07:41

@NogShine Nice Question

Edlothiad

07:59

I'm failing to see where you decide what the first act is @Aeg

Aegon

@Edlothiad Renly's death

Edlothiad

Ah ok, in honesty I'm too tired to read all the text so it was a quick skim for me

Aegon

That's the first act that influenced Stannis to believe in her

Edlothiad

Nice answer though to an interesting question

Completely unrelated, but lol:

Aegon

What do you think about this? scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/112182/…

Edlothiad

08:02

> Once a little boy sent me a charming card with a little drawing on it. I loved it. I answer all my children’s letters — sometimes very hastily — but this one I lingered over. I sent him a card and I drew a picture of a Wild Thing on it. I wrote, “Dear Jim: I loved your card.” Then I got a letter back from his mother and she said, “Jim loved your card so much he ate it."

> That to me was one of the highest compliments I’ve ever received. He didn’t care that it was an original Maurice Sendak drawing or anything. He saw it, he loved it, he ate it.

Aegon

I think it was DV worthy primarily because format and Historical inaccuracies but not delete worthy cus it does answer the question

@Edlothiad Lol. What's the context?

Edlothiad

I don't understand how 95% of it answers the question, and one line throw aways are not answers, therefore it's delete worthy

But sure I guess you could just trim it down to fix it, but you'd have to remove all the "historical context" rant and anything not related to ST

@Aegon The Author of Where the Wild Things Are on "the highest compliment I've ever received"

Aegon

@Edlothiad We could edit the irrelevant parts and make it salvageable. For historical context, not like it is the first time any of us have drawn inferences from real world history. Although admittedly, ours are inferences, his is more of an explanation as to why did Black Americans adopt Muslim attire i.e. as a way of unique identity in N.America.

Edlothiad

I don't see value in the post whether it exists or not, so I won't bother

Doing nothing means I can't do anything wrong.

Aegon

08:24

Oh well. I removed the historical context if it is uncalled for, someone might revert

Edlothiad

I don't like the manner they undertake themselves

> I am way too busy with things other than Star Trek to care about editing this for your tastes.... It's not like it's required reading. I spent 10 minutes on it because I have more important things to worry about.

If you're so busy why are you re-posting the answer, or wasting time justifying it

Aegon

@Edlothiad Dragon eating his own tail? House Toland!

GG D&D!

Edlothiad

:O

"I swear to you, I was never so alive as when I was winning this throne, or so dead as now that I've won it."

Aegon

That stuff with Missandei and as TLC puts it, "No Worm" is super cringey personally

I know it isn't illogical or against the books i.e. The Unsullied did seek female companionship but Idk I just keep going to the child Missandei in the books

Edlothiad

Ye I just try and pretend I've never read about the age that Child Missandei is because I'd rather not throw up everywhere.

I let book Missandei be 17/18 at least

Then again, I read them once and probably won't again till after TWOW

TFW fans are like AFFC took 5 years, ADWD took 6, TWOW must take 7

Yo you don't have a trend from 2 data points...

Aegon

08:40

@Edlothiad 11 years if you remember that AFFC and ADWD were actually one book

Yikes

Edlothiad

I have long accepted that he will die before he finishes.

Edlothiad

09:00

HA! SUCK IT @Skooba!

Aegon

What happened?

Edlothiad

He's no longer the top user in TQAT

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

And mornin'

Aegon

Ah congrats. And morning TLC. How did your trip go

TheLethalCarrot

It was good, I'm not that much of a fan of HP and I enjoyed it so must have been pretty good

5 hours of driving for the round trip though my legs are knackered haha

Edlothiad

09:04

Was it the studio?

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah

Edlothiad

I remember 12 months ago seeing Aegon and being like "well isn't that an awful lot of rep" and now I see him I'm like "does he even try?"

Can I suggest y'all (especially Aeg cuz he's got delete privs) pop your head into the LQP and flag that trash a R/A and get it deleted, thanks.

TheLethalCarrot

09:19

The sign language one? I flagged outside the queue

Actually looks like that account has been created just for R/A posts

Edlothiad

There's 3 from that account

TheLethalCarrot

Only saw 2 looks like 2 have been deleted so far then

Edlothiad

Yes 2 have been deleted

TheLethalCarrot

The studios did go on forever though on a side note

It was interesting and all to see all the props/costumes/sets but god it was long haha

Mithrandir

(insert rant about VTDing R/A posts here)

Nog Shine

09:33

@Aegon Thanks

TheLethalCarrot

@Mithrandir I flagged the ones I found as R/A but like Valorum said we don't really have a problem with spam here so as long as its gone its gone

Mithrandir

@TheLethalCarrot And I'll disagree with that. *shrug*

TheLethalCarrot

Well I've been active on this site for 6ish months maybe longer and I don't think I've seen more than 10-20 spam posts in all that time

There's undoubtedly been more but that's all I've seen

Mithrandir

@Edlothiad I'll note that when spam or rude/abusive content pops up in the LQP queue I always click 'looks okay' because it should be flag-deleted, not regular-deleted.

Aegon

@Mithrandir What happens if you flag and VTD?

Mithrandir

09:40

@Aegon If it gets deleted via VTDs, the post and user don't get the punishments of posting rude/abusive content applied to them.

Edlothiad

@Mithrandir You've said plenty of times and made a meta about it, there's no need, really, to come in here and repeat the same story again

2

@Aegon Our meta says just nuke them as quick as possible and the user can be dealt with later.

Mithrandir

@Edlothiad Well obviously I didn't manage to get my point across... so...

Edlothiad

If you're around the guys from Charcoal HQ who have made spam and Rude/Abusive posts there hobby, you must flag and not VTD otherwise you will be beat or whatever they do for punishment

We on SFF don't get enough spam or R/A to freak out about it, and if we have 5 active moderators it can be dealt with easily enough

Aegon

Seems to me that it would be better if you laid forward this proposal at MSE. The Rude and Abusive penalties should apply even if the post is VTD'd

Mithrandir

Go for it. But until then, it'd better to use the system as intended.

Edlothiad

09:43

Lets not have this pointless Spam vs VTD discussion in here again, I'll note that we've had it twice already. There's a Trash compactor channel for such chatter.

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On my final note. It'd be better to have a system that wasn't flawed, yet here we are.

Mithrandir

@Edlothiad It's what we have. On that note, I'll take my leave.

Edlothiad

Ooooh

TheLethalCarrot

So close

Edlothiad

I will be the captain today

TheLethalCarrot

Awesome

If I can be bothered I'll go for gold GoT this week so we can have a fortnight of success :P

Edlothiad

09:58

Argh I can't transliterate that tolkien question -.- Why is Tengwar so bloody complex..

TheLethalCarrot

Not helped with it being curved either

Edlothiad

Ye the cursive hurts my head

TheLethalCarrot

Cursive, curved and all of the letters look similar haha

Bael the Bard

0

Q: Who put Mormont's Raven in the kettle?

Before the final vote for electing the 998th Lord Commander the brothers who bring the kettle over open the lid and Mormont's raven comes flying out and lands on Jon. The kettle was in the corner by the hearth, a big black potbellied thing with two huge handles and a heavy lid. Maester Aemon ...

a-song-of-ice-and-fire

TheLethalCarrot

@BaeltheBard Not a self answer, I was wondering about it when I was researching for that question the other day

Edlothiad

10:06

It's the ringverse, BOOM

Jarko Dubbeldam

10:30

oh boy, I love that raven theory

TheLethalCarrot

11:21

Can anyone work out these sigils better than I can?

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A: Where are the cast and crew logos in Game of Thrones opening credits from?

It Is Known Georgre R. R. Martin The answer by @RicoRicochet gives the reasoning for his in that it is a turtle because "Turtles have always been my sigil, I suppose.". Bryan Cogman This is allegedly a vomiting maester after Bryan had a bit too much too drink at a wrap party though I'm not ...

Edlothiad

11:34

Strauss is Ostrich in German

TheLethalCarrot

Ah it is known

Edlothiad

The posing bird might be related to casting in some way or costume design

Could you have found lower quality images hah!

TheLethalCarrot

My net is crap today

Edlothiad

That's the only one I could figure out, Strauss

TheLethalCarrot

The video buffering was terrible haha

Aegon

11:44

@TheLethalCarrot Fleur-de-lis for Nina Gold and Robert Sterne. Do either of them have French ancestry? Their names suggest otherwise

TheLethalCarrot

I don't know

Aegon

Looks like Fleur-de-lis to me. Could be birds as you say cus low res. But it looks like that

TheLethalCarrot

Probably fleur-de-lis I did think it was that when I saw it but couldn't remember what it was called so said birds haha

Edlothiad

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TheLethalCarrot

Yay go Ed

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Edlothiad

11:54

Are you pouring out a bottle?

Jarko Dubbeldam

I thought it was a vacuum cleaner

TheLethalCarrot

It's supposed to be pouring champagne haha

It was the best one I found in my 5 second google :P

And I couldn't do fireworks again, I did that for Egg

Edlothiad

I was going to say, that was quick...

Jarko Dubbeldam

Oh right, I only saw the top line of the glass

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah gotta scroll it

Edlothiad

11:55

Ah I can scroll

How can you can get so many lines, then when I'm rambling it always says "Your message is too long"

TheLethalCarrot

Probably cos there's not that many characters in that

It's probably close though I always get that message when I try and copy paste quotes in haha

Bael the Bard

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Q: Why are the House sigils not "correct" in the title sequence for season 1?

Whilst researching for my answer to this related question: Where are the cast and crew logos in Game of Thrones opening credits from? I came across something peculiar. In the Season 1 title sequence some of the characters have the wrong house sigils next to their names, for example. Emilia Clark...

game-of-thrones behind-the-scenes

TheLethalCarrot

12:09

@BaeltheBard It's harder than it seems to track down the source to the actors picking their own sigils

@Aegon Every reddit thread I found that discusses this at least one person as that comment haha

Aegon

@TheLethalCarrot Because that's the logical conclusion.....Redhead->Kissed by fire->Fire and Blood->Targaryen!!!!!

TheLethalCarrot

Hahaha there's no other possible conclusion!

Edlothiad

12:30

@Aegon Mmmm Secret Targ

TheLethalCarrot

13:03

25 to go :) I want to answer this one but I really can't be bothered because it's based on so many misunderstandings

Aegon

13:20

@TheLethalCarrot Go you

Edlothiad

13:35

You have just over a 1/4 if what I have left, and you've been gunning for this for a couple of months now, I definitely ain't ever hitting gold.

TheLethalCarrot

Well I've been on and off over that time at least

And my latest question is driving me crazy

So I'm researching that but turning up nothin'

Edlothiad

Although if I get the 98 t-l, you can add 98 to the lotr tag count, which takes it up to 164 that would mean on 36 to do there

So really it's like 2 golds for the price of one.

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah it really is

There too closely coupled haha

Edlothiad

Well I mean no one reads anything else paha!

If there was a universe tag for the show and the books you'd have a gold months ago

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah just there's no point in one

If only the show didn't deviate as much as it had

Edlothiad

13:41

I'm both for and against it. Especially with spin off shows coming up, and all the D&E and short story possibilities

Should we have a martin-verse and a hbo-verse

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah that sort of makes sense

Edlothiad

So all the tv Adaptations can be in one block, and planetos can be in another?

TheLethalCarrot

I suppose we'll have to see when the spinoffs come out

And what GRRM's reactions to them are

Edlothiad

The difference here is the story is all told on one planet, whereas t-l contains this Earth too, so we might get away with simply calling it planetos whereas ea wouldn't have worked

TheLethalCarrot

Though a Planetos-verse works to include ASOIAF, D&E, TPATQ etc. Though I'm not sure if they fall under ASOIAF still...

Edlothiad

13:44

Nah, ASOIAF is the tale of Jon Snow.

I'm calling it now.

TheLethalCarrot

I know but so far we've really been using it for the extended works too haha

I'm in favour of a book universe tag though that is 992 questions to add it to if we were to go back retrospectively.

I'm not sure we need a show universe one yet, that's more of a wait and see what they do and how they are accepted/where they fit

Though if we keep leaving it that's a lot of questions to add it to again if we go back, it's already at 1220

Edlothiad

With asoiaf I think there's a way to add a tag to all of them without having to go back and fix them, while also giving them a second tag, although maybe not.

It's fine, 992 questions only takes about a month.

Or 20 burst of 50 where I then restore the whole front page hehe

TheLethalCarrot

If there's not already there should be a way to bulk insert without bumping

Edlothiad

I'm sleepy

1.25 hours

TheLethalCarrot

Till you finish?

Edlothiad

14:02

Aye.

Argh *thrash thrash* everything bloody broke over the Holiday

TheLethalCarrot

Oh noes

Edlothiad

Can't care enough today, will sleep tonight and work tomorrow

TheLethalCarrot

That's sort of my attitude today, was a long day yesterday and I keep getting support calls from engineers distracting me

Edlothiad

I think French for the next hour, go home, have dinner (yes I have dinner at 5 and it's great) go rugby come home pass out in bed at 10 and get up at 6:30

Sorry I'm rambling again

TheLethalCarrot

14:17

Are a bit :P

Edlothiad

@Skooba change your profile picture to something about a loss

@TheLethalCarrot My eyes are barely open and my brain has shut off

Skooba

@Edlothiad it was the first thing i did this morning

Edlothiad

Although I found some tin foil

TheLethalCarrot

Haha I'm not that bad at least

Edlothiad

Really low quality tinfoil. Like your Sainsbury's basics or someting: reddit.com/r/pureasoiaf/comments/7pkyr3/…

Also I 100% support his thread: reddit.com/r/pureasoiaf/comments/7pqb9y/…

Skooba

14:19

okay so thought of the day

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad That's some lovely tinfoil right there

Skooba

Why did the Three-eyed Crow wait until Bran had fallen to contact him?

Edlothiad

Because he needed Euron to reach him first, read the tinfoil ma dude

TheLethalCarrot

@Skooba Bran wanted to be a knight, it's less likely he'd put up a fight about having to become a tree if he can't walk

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot The phrasing of that makes it "becoming a tree"

Aegon

14:22

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Q: Was Bran's accident a precondition for his recruitment?

I wonder if Bran would have had the same fate without having his accident. Bran started to dream about the Three-eyed Crow whilst he was in a coma. It appeared then that I don't know if the former Three-eyed Crow, Brynden, was himself injured and how he was recruited. Do we know if being cri...

game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire

Edlothiad

With Bran's S3-S7 Growth spurt he would've made quite the night.

Skooba

@Aegon Well i never it was and original thought.... lol

Edlothiad

@skooba you missed a word or six.

Skooba

@Edlothiad just one it appears.... "said"

i that all time

its an odd habit/malfunction of mine

Edlothiad

Ironic that you did it when describing it.

@Aeg, Bloodraven = TER confirmed?

Hmm, seems certain enough.

Jarko Dubbeldam

14:32

TER?

TheLethalCarrot

Three eyed raven

Jarko Dubbeldam

oh

lel

@Edlothiad AWOIAF seems to think so: awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/…

Aegon

14:55

@Edlothiad westeros.org/Citadel/FAQ/Entry/Who_is_the_three-eyed_crow

Edlothiad

Ruh-roh

Edlothiad

15:31

@TheLethalCarrot looks like reverse-transcribing the banner by hand will get me 2 silver badges

Aegon

@Edlothiad Intellectual take

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Q: Why is the general discussion chat room not the first in the list of site chat rooms?

When I go to chat via the SE logo I arrive at the chat room list of the particular stack I am on, the SFF chat room list in our case. So far so good, but how is the order in which they are displayed derived? For me it looks like this: Does the placement change with latest addition? Because t...

support chat

🙌

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad Nice one, is a good answer :)

Edlothiad

We da best!

TheLethalCarrot

We sure is

Edlothiad

And there’s amflare’s quiet room at the bottom, wonder what he does there...

amflare

15:45

he is quiet

if you must know

TheLethalCarrot

Oh here's the quiet one

You and Jarko are such lurkers sometimes :P

amflare

perks of being 7 hours later then the rest of you guys

TheLethalCarrot

True

I never know when either of you are actually around or just hiding in the background haha

amflare

US working hours, yes. Otherwise unlikely.

IDK when it'll remove for inactiity

Aegon

Wow I just received Reddit Silver for the first time!

Edlothiad

15:48

@amflare 30d I think

@Aegon silver?

amflare

@Edlothiad wait, so you can lurk for 30 without actually ever being in the room?

Aegon

@Edlothiad Free Gold.....For those who can't afford Reddit Gold

:D

amflare

@Edlothiad is a joke gold, you "give" it by posting something like this as a reply

Aegon

There is a bot for that apparently

Type !redditsilver et voila

Oh and just discovered there is an image like you describe

At least it's Freehand

Edlothiad

16:09

@amflare wait I got confused, you’re shown on the side as long as you have the chat page open on a web browser somewhere

TheLethalCarrot

That's what I thought

amflare

Ah, okay

Well, I leave the window open at work overnight, so the 30d thing probably still applies to me

Edlothiad

Oh i’ve Actually had Reddit gold, thrice. And once while in /r/lounge, so I got to go to /r/megalounge!

@amflare that was for chatrooms

amflare

er.... yes. I'm talking about chatrooms

Aegon

@Edlothiad Do you actually get something with Reddit Gold?

Or is it like our Gold badge?

"Sense of pride and Accomplishment" - EA, probably

TheLethalCarrot

16:22

reddit.com/gold/about

Edlothiad

@Aegon "Extended features" and access to /r/lounge

@amflare Oh. If no words are said in a chatroom for something like 30 days then it gets frozen

Aegon

Noice

Hah I was looking for that image @TheLethalCarrot. Gave up after a while

TheLethalCarrot

I looked under the tag, gave up and just searched for "we do not sow know" and it came up haha

Edlothiad

Although I've never bought reddit gold

TheLethalCarrot

17:08

Has anyone had any luck with this?

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Q: Why are the House sigils not "correct" in the title sequence for season 1?

Whilst researching for my answer to this related question: Where are the cast and crew logos in Game of Thrones opening credits from? I came across something peculiar. In the Season 1 title sequence some of the characters have the wrong house sigils next to their names. For example, Emilia Clark...

game-of-thrones behind-the-scenes

I know I haven't haha

Just saw this article and got excited but it gives us nothing haha

amflare

@TheLethalCarrot my research turned up nothing.

near as I can figure, it was a production mistake that was fixed by the 3rd episode.

TheLethalCarrot

I've seen lots of people saying the actors chose their own ones but don't know

amflare

that doesn't really make much sense

Edlothiad

17:29

Well before then I guess the characters hadn’t really been portrayed by their actors and a large majority of people probably wouldn’t have read ASOIAF

So they could do whatever they liked

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah another case of the show mucking up but I can’t track anything down about it

Rand al'Thor

22:29

@Mithrandir Clicking "looks OK" on spam or R/A content is an excellent way to get oneself temporarily banned from reviewing.

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(late reply, but I only just saw that because it was linked on meta)

Belated congrats to @Aegon! :-D

Edlothiad

There was a multitude of achievements to congratulate @Randal'Thor stop giving Egg preferential treatment!

Rand al'Thor

Only one person has a gold badge in GoT or aSoIaF afaik?

(wow, too many acronyms)

Edlothiad

I said achievements...

Rand al'Thor

Well, come on: what are they then?

The new gold tag badge is the only one I noticed.

Edlothiad

Although if you're only congratulating gold badges in GoT, set your timer for Sunday

Rand al'Thor

22:35

Any preferential treatment is only due to ignorance :-)

Edlothiad

I got a new gold badge too!

amflare

gold badges for everyone

Edlothiad

Amf didn't you just get one

And I swear TLC got one recently

Anywhoo, it's late.

Rand al'Thor

Gold tag badges?

Möoz

23:16

Just popped in to say congrats @Aegon Yaay!!

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