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was king joffrey baratheon officially crowned by the septon ? i remember that the high sparrow refused to crown tommen, but don't remember if the fat septon crowned joffrey

TheLethalCarrot

He was certainly planning on doing it

Kepotx

he was totally corrupt so i dont see why he would refused but i dont have any memory of the high septon crowning joffrey, in the books and in the tv show

@Aegon what mod is it ?

Edlothiad

10:59 AM

@Kepotx it’s a scatmod

Bael the Bard

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Q: Why doesn't Jon Snow just create a new undead to show to Cersei?

In GOT season 7, Jon Snow and several other important characters feel the need to which is (obviously, and as it turns out) very dangerous. However, in Season 1, Othor's body is risen from the dead South of the wall, and attacks Jeor Mormont, so obviously the White Walkers' inluence works tha...

game-of-thrones

Kepotx

11:14 AM

@TheLethalCarrot gosh, you beat me by 15 seconds

TheLethalCarrot

Lol, I'd have posted it earlier but I was talking with a colleague

Kepotx

same, the teacher was behind me ^^

TheLethalCarrot

Haha

Kepotx

didn't realise that othor hadn't blue eyes in the show...

TheLethalCarrot

Continuity error, they're not blue when he attacks Mormont either

Not that I can see anyway

Aegon

11:29 AM

@Kepotx Cats and Bears were introduced with the Jade Dragon DLC. Not a mod

Edlothiad

UUUUUUGH SFF IS STILL BORKED

Not loading?

Nope

Unlucky

Whats ctrl+windows+c?

TheLethalCarrot

11:31 AM

Toggles monitor colour

Edlothiad

DV'd question, no idea what it says

TheLethalCarrot

Or screen colour rather

Edlothiad

Lol how would that help paha

TheLethalCarrot

Dunno

Edlothiad

Not doing anything for me

TheLethalCarrot

11:32 AM

@Edlothiad It's not a good question but basically why didn't they kill someone and wait for them to be turned into a wight instead of going to look for one

@Edlothiad You on Win 10?

Edlothiad

Ye

@TheLethalCarrot Well that's bloody stupid, I want to downvote it...

TheLethalCarrot

Dunno then

And yeah it's a bad Q, also based on a few false premises

Edlothiad

Swapped from wired to wireless connection, still rip

TheLethalCarrot

Mine usuaully gets better after 10 mins

Looks like you're proper borked

Edlothiad

I just want to thrash about angrily

TheLethalCarrot

11:44 AM

Haha

Edlothiad

Some people online are claiming it's malware

Run a scan then :P

0?

0 what?

dangerous files

11:47 AM

Oh haha

Dunno then

Edlothiad

This sucks, I don't think I have enough coins for a chocolate bar either :(

I do, I'm going chocolate shopping

TheLethalCarrot

Woop

Batshit crazy theory anyone?

Edlothiad

THAT WORKS!

TheLethalCarrot

Oh come off it

Edlothiad

12:03 PM

No haha the link works, not the theory

TheLethalCarrot

Good, I was starting to give up hope

Haha

Edlothiad

The theory is silly

TheLethalCarrot

Silly is the polite way of putting it

JAD

Let's call it special

Edlothiad

I can't see the reddit thread that the author copied verbatim from...

TheLethalCarrot

12:10 PM

The reddit thread has less info in it and appears to be even worse

Aegon

12:26 PM

It keeps asking me to complete Captcha, must be legit

Edlothiad

??

So I can't do any of my usual procrastination, I'll have to learn french :eyeroll:

Aegon

The batshit insane theory site

Keeps asking

me

to complete captcha

Edlothiad

Lol, that's weird

Aegon

And then keeps asking again ... and again... and again.

Yup, no idea

TheLethalCarrot

You aint human Egg

Aegon

12:29 PM

If the theory is that Planetos is a tiny speck in the eye of a giant

Edlothiad

yep

TheLethalCarrot

Well that it's in a Giant's eye, they don't go into detail

Aegon

@TheLethalCarrot Negative, Dear Human subject 093888xff. I am very much LifeStatus.alive and Species.Human

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

Aegon

@TheLethalCarrot I say it's in Sponge Bob's pants. All those who deny it are my enemies

TheLethalCarrot

12:31 PM

Sounds about right

Edlothiad

Well considering they claim it's a dyson sphere, the land would be on the inner surface of the eye and therefore covering the iris.

TheLethalCarrot

Have you been looking into this EggBot?

@Edlothiad They state the poles are holes that the First Men came in through

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot Kill me now.

Aegon

@TheLethalCarrot Nah, the "Tick here bruh if you really human or some shieet" captcha

Which then gets pissed at you and starts showing you images to select from

TheLethalCarrot

Ahh right

Edlothiad

12:32 PM

@TheLethalCarrot I can't even open that cuz it's an SE network link :(

TheLethalCarrot

Those ones are annoyinj

Haha

It's always check all the squares that contain a sign and then one square has the top edge of a sign in it, do I check it or not?

Half the time you should check it, the other half you shouldn't

Edlothiad

Just check all the boxes

TheLethalCarrot

Haha

Edlothiad

So the guy who wants to synchronise no longer has time because he's working on something else so French it is

Also I need to stay awake somehow :/

You guys seen this? I love this theory: awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Frey_Pies/Theories

Aegon

@Edlothiad I think this is R+L=J tier theory

Hot "Frey" Pie!

Edlothiad

12:44 PM

Well most on AWOIAF are, but that's all I can read now

If this = SanSan, I'll be sooo upset:

> You will see, in A STORM OF SWORDS and later volumes, that Sansa remembers the Hound kissing her the night he came to her bedroom... but if you look at the scene, he never does. That will eventually mean something, but just now it's a subtle touch, something most of the readers may not even pick up on.

awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Sansa_Stark/…

:OOOOOOOOOOO

TheLethalCarrot

Sansaryen confirmed?

Edlothiad

Now that I could possibly get behind.

Although it'd have to be fAegon

Or Jonsa, god that would make me sick

TheLethalCarrot

I thought fAegon when I read it

Hopeully not Jonsa

Edlothiad

Hopefully no fAegon either...

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad I don't think you need the theory to want to get behind.... ;)

Edlothiad

12:56 PM

LOOOOOOOOOL ^.^

And by that, dear transcript readers, he means I'm a big fan of Sandor Clegane so regardless of the evidence I will always support theories that lead to Sandor having a happy ending *cough* *cough*

TheLethalCarrot

Of course nothing else implied or stated at all

In S1 when Othor is brought back beyond the Wall he's a wight cos he's not rotting but doesn't have blue eyes yet, I've chalked this up to a show error. Can any of you see if he has blue eyes when he attacks Mormont/Jon.. youtube.com/watch?v=NjjJ-gwL1B0

I had a look and couldn't see blue but other people have said they are

Edlothiad

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

Show messing things up

They got it right in the prologue too

Edlothiad

That was tough with the limited websites I can visit lol

TheLethalCarrot

Seriously how hard is it?

Edlothiad

1:01 PM

Looking

JAD

> S01E08 - White Walker attacks Lord Mormont

cringe

TheLethalCarrot

Probably uploaded by D&D then

Edlothiad

Go to 1:34 and move forward at .25 speed, looks blue to me

I'm almost certain they're blue.

JAD

yeah

Aegon

JAD

1:04 PM

but not the bright blue you see other times

TheLethalCarrot

Maybe actually yeah

Way too dark though

Aegon

@Edlothiad ^Gif

JAD

in that scene though, why on earth does Jon grab the lantern by the side?

Edlothiad

Ye they're blue as everything

2:10, very very clear

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah they are

Show messed up when he's brought back beyond the Wall then?

@JAD Cos he's a muppet

Edlothiad

1:05 PM

@Aegon Wrong reaction, that's more of the one to Jonsa, not what TLC about *cough* me accepting all theories that have a happy ending *cough*

@TheLethalCarrot That would be my assoomption

Aegon

It is my reaction to jonsa

Edlothiad

Oh, you should link it better lolol

Aegon

It is linked to your jonsa comment

Well not the gif, the second comment. Gif didn't for some reason

I could swear sometimes gif replies work here

TheLethalCarrot

@Edlothiad Or probably so they could reveal he was actually a wight during the fight rather than beforehand

Still a mistake though

Edlothiad

Oh that one

If you reply (:43284329) and then post the gif it works

Like mine did

@TheLethalCarrot do you remember which answer of yours Rand complained that it wasn't an answer to the question for?

Aegon

1:10 PM

Sometimes the gif upload retains the :xxxx. But nice tip, will remember that

TheLethalCarrot

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A: Why does Maester Aemon get to cast the deciding vote when electing the new Lord Commander?

This appears to be a show only event and as such it is likely there just to build tension. As this is the case we most likely won't be able to find the reason as the show doesn't really explore the extended material and it doesn't appear to be addressed in the books. However, in the books Jon win...

Edlothiad

@Aegon You don't need to type out the numbers though, just click the arrow then provide the link

that's always worked for me

Aegon

@Edlothiad Gif direct links one-box?

Edlothiad

In the text box it'll come up as ":43920342 https://fdsafdkfdk.com" but it will render

Aegon

Oh they do

My God

It is beautiful

Edlothiad

1:14 PM

Your other one oneboxed as well?

Aegon

No I did the stupid "Upload via url" last time

Or all the times before it

TheLethalCarrot

I've never even seen that before haha

That makes uploading images easier

Aegon

Look at these Dum-Dums

reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/7surjf/…

TheLethalCarrot

Aegon

AeG0N sHoUlD HAvE tAkEN rEAcH aNd WeStErLAnds....TaRg sTronk tHen aMiRitE LoL?

mUh ceNtrAliZed PoWeR

Edlothiad

1:21 PM

@Aegon gonna need a tl;dr because can't see

JAD

I think detainting the rebel lords by Joffrey is pretty assertive

Aegon

@Edlothiad Apparently a guy goes "Meh why are there kings anyways? Why do the noble houses care? Kings are just as strong as they houses they marry into. So how Powerful is the Crown really?"

Edlothiad

What? Where's that logic coming from?

Aegon

And thus came along the Experts who claim Aegon giving back lands to Local Lords and raising them up was a huge mistake and had he taken conquered lands for House Targaryen, Targaryen would have been super powerful

Edlothiad

Sure they'd have had a lot of land, but everyone would've revolted and banded together and GG house Targaryen...

JAD

1:24 PM

@Edlothiad but then again, dragons

Edlothiad

Umm the Dragon Pit was a good example of what would happen.

Aegon

@Edlothiad Precisely. Plus Delegation of power and internal autonomy is a real thing when ruling a huge realm

Edlothiad

A Dragon can only melt so many people...

Throw enough people at it and Dragon goes GG.

Aegon

@JAD Dragons did not end the rebellion of the Faith or conquered Dorne

Edlothiad

Silly JAD... Jarko would've known better ;P

Kepotx

1:26 PM

Feudality is the key : you are only powerfull because your vassals are powerfull. if all vassals begin a rebellion, you are screwed

Aegon

@Kepotx Yup, the King for all intents and purposes is just another feudal lord with a shiny hat

Only thing he really has going for him is the symbolic significance and perception of power

JAD

@Aegon just another tier

Kepotx

and as he NEED some vassals, to delegate power, the best move is to make old kings some vassals/lord paramount, so that other house accept a foreign king

TheLethalCarrot

Yup, you may be able to win with force but you can't rule with it

Edlothiad

@JAD Just another animal?

Kepotx

1:28 PM

constant rebellion and harassment/guerilla like the dornishmen did => no way to rule the seven kingdoms

Aegon

@TheLethalCarrot Ironborn should learn that

Edlothiad

@TheLethalCarrot Well Maegor did...

JAD

@Aegon but muh iron price

Aegon

@Edlothiad For how long?

You can't rule by brute force for ever

Edlothiad

@Aegon Longer then Aenys...

Aegon

1:29 PM

If you try, you end up like Maegor

TheLethalCarrot

Yeah I meant can't rule with power for long

Aegon

@Edlothiad #VisenyaDidNothingWrong

Edlothiad

Lol

Kepotx

look at how even "today's" people hate targs because the mad kings

Aegon

Pre-Emptive defense of Her Grace against the slander that she killed Aenys

Edlothiad

1:29 PM

I would need to revise the succension post Aeg, I forgot Aenys was even king

Kepotx

if there are several mad kings/maegor the cruel kings in a row, there will be constant rebellion

Aegon

@Kepotx Common people still have people who love even Aerys lol

"The old King would never have stood for this"

"King Robert?"

"No, King Aerys, Gods Grace Him"

Kepotx

yes, and other agree that even if he is a tyrant, at least the kingdom was at peace

Edlothiad

Eugh, Eustace Osgrey, the bloody black dragon supporter

Aegon

@Edlothiad Black Dragon, Best Dragon

Kepotx

1:31 PM

a little bit like those who defend Al Assad/Kadhafi : he may be a dictator, but at least, the country is united and at peace, and not in a civil war

Edlothiad

Wait did I get that the wrong way around?

Aegon

@Kepotx Aerys may have been mad but he was smart enough to act like a nice bloke in front of public

Like when he raised levies for ports

When merchants came complaining

He said, "Oh no, when did that happen? Must have been Tywin's work. Good people, as long as I reign, you will never suffer such injustice. I revert my hand's unjust taxes on you"

People don't know much about what he was

TheLethalCarrot

History is written by the victors

Aegon

I mean sure they knew he was slightly touched in the head, but that was the case with most Targs

TheLethalCarrot

Generations of porking your siblings would do that

The Targs are basically Cletus

Aegon

1:35 PM

@TheLethalCarrot "Dear Sir, I protest in the most strong words over the false claims that Targaryens wed their siblings exclusively. Sometimes we wed neices and nephews too, Yours Truly, King Maegor (Mrs.)"

TheLethalCarrot

Lol

Kepotx

"madness and greatness are two sides of the same coin. Every time a new Targaryen is born, he said, the gods toss the coin in the air and the world holds its breath to see how it will land"

Aegon

@Kepotx For Daemon Targaryen, it landed on its edges. And kept threatening to fall on one face or the other but never did.

Edlothiad

BURY IT!

BURY IT ALL

Kepotx

"Over the centuries, House Targaryen has produced both great men and monsters. Prince Daemon was both." Gyldayn

Edlothiad

1:39 PM

@Aegon Eggs brother?

Kepotx

awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Daemon_Targaryen

love the fact that he is three times in the family three

we need to create a 3dimensional family tree for targs

TheLethalCarrot

Targaryen family tree

Edlothiad

Maester iStock's work I see...

Aegon

@Edlothiad Rhaenyra's uncle husband

Edlothiad

@Aegon Was yoke...

TheLethalCarrot

1:43 PM

@Edlothiad Lol the one I opened didn't have watermarks must have added them in the direct link

Edlothiad

Cmon people... Maester iStock is a good joke...

Tough crowd these days

ALTHOUGH THEY KEEP STARRING STUPID MESSAGES ABOUT ATTENTION

TheLethalCarrot

Hahaha

Edlothiad

Odds on patches re-appearing with Davos' fingers

amflare

2:57 PM

@Edlothiad do we have a meta consensus on spoilers?

Edlothiad

Ye don't

Titles have to be meaningful though

Which q, I have 2 minutes

amflare

I'm answering this

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Q: Why was this edit to hide a plot spoiler rejected?

Yesterday I saw this answer, which essentially summarized an entire story in plain view, so I suggested this edit to hide the summary and require the user to mouse over it to read it. This edit was rejected, and the reason given was this: This edit does not make the post even a little bit ea...

discussion suggested-edit

with "because we don't need to spoiler everything"

I know we talked about spoilers somewhere recently

I just need to find it

Edlothiad

We don't add spoilers to id

TheLethalCarrot

That's a horrible edit, I haven't even read it and it looks horrible

amflare

@Edlothiad do we have a meta on that?

or is it unspoken

Edlothiad

3:00 PM

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Q: I'm asking a Story-ID question. Should I include spoilers?

I plan to ask a story-id question shortly. So far I've described elements from the plot and a description of the characters but what should I do about spoilers? Obviously asking "Space opera, floppy-haired hero fights man in black" is a less obvious match than "Space-opera, floppy-...

discussion spoilers story-identification

Well, It can be interpreted as "don't hide them"

TheLethalCarrot

Spoilers in answers are usually not needed anyway as the question usually covers the full scope of the answers

Not always the case obviously

Kepotx

its dumb to hide spoilers in story-id question

make no sense "i want to know the plot of the stry but hide me the plot"

Edlothiad

The guys a fool

TheLethalCarrot

It's dumb to hide a full answer behind spoilers, exhibit A

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A: How does Kylo Ren knows when to contact this character?

Those interactions

Edlothiad

Go back to SO.

TheLethalCarrot

3:02 PM

That answer was posted at the perfect time :P

@Edlothiad Side note is that Q a dupe of this one?

amflare

I'm not sure I needed a tldr for a 50 word answer, but whatever

TheLethalCarrot

Oh well it covers the point pretty well

amflare

heh heh heh their sigil is humpty dumpty

yesterday, by Kepotx

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_Falwell

Oh dammit

Its House Falwell

stupid quote box ruining my joke

Edlothiad

3:21 PM

Don’t think so, the new one is asking about timings

Bael the Bard

5:40 PM

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Q: Have there been any ruling salt son?

A salt son is the son of an ironborn and a salt wife. According to both "salt son" and "salt wife" wiki page, a salt son can inherit, even if they are behind rock wife. However, I don't remember any mention of a famous salt son, ruling the Iron Island or even a major House like Harlaw, Drumm or G...

game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire

amflare

11:04 PM

Didn't there used to be 900 some-odd starred messages? Did a bunch of old ones get removed or something?

Bael the Bard

11:25 PM

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Q: Is the Westerosi heraldry similar to western europe medieval heraldry?

Similar to our world, heraldry play an important role to distinguish noble Houses or singular character. But did the westerosi heraldry follow the same rules as ours ?

game-of-thrones a-song-of-ice-and-fire

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