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Undo

15:50

Well, predictions?

Undo

16:32

It's lonely in here

Undo

16:50

PEOPLE!

WHERE ARE PEOPLE

Heh, the stream is borked for me >.>

yay, fixed

Apple Pay launching Monday

WatchKit. November. Yes.

Yay, another Craig Show

grgarside

17:16

Hi!

Undo

Hi!

Stream good this time >:D

iOS 8.1.

bmike

Hair Force One is so much more confident and clear presenting.

Undo

It's been a while since I've used Yosemite.

Ian C.

I'm here now. Yosemite looks pretty.

iCloud Photos looks great too.

Assuming iCloud works and isn't a turd. Man I wish they'd just bought Dropbox...

bmike

@IanC. It's quite cleaner

Ian C.

17:25

@bmike I just like UI refreshes. I like to move my desk around often too. Refreshes my mind.

bmike

I totally agree. I'm probably going to do a clean, bare metal install and add all my settings one by one.

on 10.10 when it ships.

Ian C.

snazzy -- AirPlay without WiFi.

Mmm...continuity. This is how I've always wanted all my computers to work together.

bmike

yup - it's awesome in the betas. both airplay and continuity

Undo

I never could get Continuity to work, but that was way back in Beta 4-ish

Ian C.

demo!

bmike

17:27

It's solid now, very solid

Kyle Cronin

answering a call via continuity takes a long time

Ian C.

@KyleCronin shhh. let me imagine it's perfect for a while.

is apple's cafe not subsidized/free?

humour!

bmike

hotspot, not so solid yet

Undo

You can tell he's a little nervous about continuity working

Ian C.

@Undo he seems jittery for sure.

Undo

17:29

yay it worked :D

Ian C.

but damn that's cool.

Undo

it is

I think I got it to work once

bmike

the amount of bluetooth and wi fi interference in that stage - I'd be a bit nervous as well

Ian C.

hope you've got a great cellular data plan if you're using that off wifi though!

Undo

@IanC. IIRC it uses bluetooth

right?

Kyle Cronin

17:30

hm, not getting anything for infinitescoop.net

Undo

Me neither

Probably a proxy on their network

Ian C.

i thought it synced over icloud. otherwise you couldn't start something on one computer at one location, continue on another.

Undo

Oh, right.

Ian C.

i don't find colbert funny.

bmike

@IanC. it would be cool if they implemented a local sync using ad-hoc WiFi and/or Bluetooth as a bonded network interface. Whatever pipes are open, the continuity pushes when activated only...

Ian C.

17:32

this is not funny

Undo

They're trying to make a point

Kyle Cronin

too bad the call quality wasn't better

Ian C.

point was lost on me

Undo

point == secrecy :P

Kyle Cronin

they're going overboard on the silliness

Undo

17:35

I kinda like it

Ian C.

weeee! os update time!

Undo

Yosemite. Today.

Free. Yay

8.1 Monday

grgarside

Not releasing OS X and iOS updates at the same time—here's hoping less stress on Apple servers

Undo

When was the last time an Apple OS upgrade cost money?

Kyle Cronin

Mountain Lion, I think

Undo

17:37

I thought it was Lion

meh, can't remember :P

Ian C.

can't remember

Kyle Cronin

I think ML still cost money

Undo

Holy crap that's a lot of iPads

Ian C.

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Q: How do I do a clean install of Yosemite?

I'd like to start from scratch with Yosemite. I have Mavericks running on my iMac now but I'd like to just wipe the system and start with a clean Yosemite install. How do I do a clean install of Yosemite on my machine, not an upgrade install?

Undo

How long have you been sitting on that? :P

Ian C.

17:41

30 seconds?

Undo

oh :P

Kyle Cronin

the pencil ad was good

Undo

yeah

here we go

It now doubles as a knife

... wow

Ian C.

is that a gold coloured iPad?

Undo

yes

Kyle Cronin

17:42

yep

Ian C.

it looked goldish in that clip

Undo

with touch ID

Kyle Cronin

I wonder if the iPad Air 2 bends

Ian C.

that's ridiculously thin

bendgate 2: the bendining

this will never survive my children

the Gen 2 is holding up to their abuse though.

and snot. man, that thing handles snot really well

Undo

Plot twist: Chassis made of titanium in response to bendgate.

Kyle Cronin

17:45

hm I might get it due to the display fusion alone

Undo

wow

Ian C.

who flagged my Yosemite question for closure? :)

Kyle Cronin

that was my biggest complaint

Undo

So I can't get five and start fires with them?

A8X

A8 with better GPU, right?

yup

gimme. gimme gimme gimme

(Actually, my 3rd gen is doing great. I'm proud of it)

Ian C.

i am super impressed at how long my Gen 2 has lasted. it's pretty much used by the kids now but still...has iOS 8 on it, plays their games and Netflix and Plex to the AppleTV. pretty good life from that.

Undo

17:47

Mine has gone to two WWDCs, and it looks like it might make it through another one.

I love how that camera looks in the body, for some reason.

Ian C.

people taking photos with iPads look silly, sorry.

Undo

I don't care how I look :P

Ian C.

just...don't.

Kyle Cronin

yeah, not going to take photos with my iPad, no matter how great the camera is

Undo

that's amazing

Ian C.

17:51

are those dots on either side of the camera in the case the mics?

Kyle Cronin

so the iPad Air 2 has the iPhone 5s camera

Undo

@KyleCronin can the 5s do slo motion stuff?

Or is that a software thing more than anything else?

Kyle Cronin

yep, 120fps

the 6 has 240fps slo mo

Undo

Ah, so it can't do 240

Ian C.

booourns apple pay

c'mon get to the retina imacs...daddy needs a new computer...

2

Undo

17:54

@IanC. Is this a one hour event or a two hour event?

Ian C.

i love pixelmator. use it all the time.

Kyle Cronin

I don't "need" a new computer, but if a retina iMac is announced I'll be getting one :)

Undo

'cause if it's a one hour event, retina macs ain't happenin

Ian C.

@KyleCronin every time i've gone to buy a new desktop in the last year i've said, "No Ian, wait. Patience. Retina iMac."

@Undo no clue.

Kyle Cronin

it's gotta be a 2+ hour event, they're nowhere close to finishing

Undo

17:56

That's... scary stuff right there, disappearing oryxes

Kyle Cronin

they're showing off doing "real work" on an iPad

which is tough when the screen is so small

I'd say a big iPad is very likely to be announced

Undo

This is cool

Ian C.

@KyleCronin yea, I could see a larger iPad with this kind of horsepower in it being a huge hit with photographers.

Undo

hah, autocorrect beat him

I want this

... free. FREE

Ian C.

@Undo bet there's a lot of IAP

Undo

18:01

yeah, probably

Ian C.

they need to stop making these things in 16GB sizes. useless.

Undo

Ian C.

hah. yup. so it's $10. which is still stupid cheap for what it is.

Undo

@IanC. I get by fine with a 16GB model

but I don't really watch a bunch of media

Kyle Cronin

no A8X for the mini?

Undo

18:02

not sure

Might have an A7X

A $399 iPad Air is a pretty awesome deal. I wonder what they'll be refurb.

Kyle Cronin

wat they're still selling the A5 mini?

Undo

MacBook Air time

please, please don't kill the standard Pro

Here we go

video

Ian C.

so nice to see they have live streaming fixed for this event.

Undo

Retina iMac

Ian C.

hah. work just emailed us all and told us not to upgrade our MBP to Yosemite 'cause beta testers were having WiFI drop outs.

Kyle Cronin

18:06

yes...

Ian C.

EEEEYYYYYYEEEEEMMMMMAAAACCCCS!

Undo

I want one of these

Kyle Cronin

ok where's the page to order one?

Undo

@IanC. Yosemite was better on my network than Mavericks is

Ian C.

@Undo it's likely an issue with the enterprise wifi radios and routers we have in our office.

Undo

18:07

Oh

Ian C.

haha. i'm sitting at '07 iMac and it's got like nothing in comparison to that for resolution...

Undo

It's... bigger than 4k? :O

hah, I read that as 5nm at first

I want to play with one of these at an Apple Store.

Wonder what it'll cost :/

All your photos will now look crappy :P

Ian C.

drooling on my keyboard....

Undo

Not a Jony video?

It's crazy that they can run that many pixels.

Actually, the iPad retina display still amazes me

Ian C.

wonder what their pixel error rate is like in the screens?

Undo

18:12

doesn't matter, you can't see them :P

Ian C.

would suck to get a bunch of dead pixels, but maybe you just wouldn't notice now.

Undo

... a 4GHZ i7. Wow

Ian C.

cores over clocks for me these days

Undo

They need that graphics power just to run those pixels

Kevin

Gonna be crazy expensive with all the upgrads

Ian C.

18:14

can't be...it's an iMac.

Undo

uh oh, they're dancing around it

$2500

Ian C.

boom!

not bad at all.

shit memory

Undo

A little more expensive than I could pony up :P

Kevin

@Undo Base

Undo

Okay, so they're keeping the standard ones

Ian C.

18:15

ah. the others in the lineup got cheaper though.

nice.

Undo

Mac mini

Standard updates, nothing exciting

Kyle Cronin

YES MAC MINI UPDATES

two TB ports!

Undo

$599 down to $499

Kyle Cronin

thunderboat

Ian C.

two TB ports is very nice. great price.

Kyle Cronin

18:16

I'll be getting one of those too as a compact server

Apple is going to get so much of my money today

3

Ian C.

hah.

Kevin

@IanC. But I wonder how well it powers 2 TB displays

Ian C.

@Kevin should be fine as long as they're not 4K.

Kyle Cronin

@Kevin I'm sure it'll be just fine, I've run 2 TB displays off my 13" rMBP with no problem

Undo

My 2012 MBP standard can power a couple standard displays no problem, should be fie

Ian C.

18:18

safari's Cmd+#key for bookmarks drives me nuts. that should switch tabs like every. other. browser.

Undo

Hey, that's cool. Thanks!

They're taunting us with that watch

hah!

Ian C.

might need to drive over to cupertino this afternoon...

Undo

I made it to Mountain View once, that's as close as I've been

Ian C.

bet the retina iMacs are in the corporate store now. the online store is down.

Undo

got to run, cya folks

Ian C.

18:25

ciao

Undo

19:04

back

Not seeing Yosemite in the App Store, is it not released yet?

Kyle Cronin

no quad core Mac mini anymore, even BTO? :-(

Ian C.

19:23

@Undo not there for me yet, either.

A new iMac AND I'll finally move to Logic X...why not.

bmike

20:55

@Undo not seeing it for "purchase" either

The URL will be itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/… but it's not on the USA store now/yet/currently

@IanC. I might need to get one when they arrive tomorrow in town.

Still doing the math on all the "buys" and then ordering them. Might wait for the bump on the retina iMac...

bmike

21:32

Download started :-) :-)

bmike

22:08

jimlindley.com/blog/yosemite-upgrade-homebrew-tips

The link above has some great tips on cleaning up /usr/local before installing Yosemite.

Might save you a bit of time on slower Macs

Undo

thanks for that

bmike

22:26

@KyleCronin I don't think so. My guess is most of the mini are servers now and not CPU constrained in the least

Even the 1.4 is just fine for most of my clients and they will appreciate the $100 to spend elsewhere big time.

Undo

22:37

Yosemite incoming :D

~ 1:45

and getting faster

bmike

22:53

35 min for me to download.

Undo

lucky :p

bmike

Glad it's not too slow.

Undo

We're thinking about getting a better connection, but meh

bmike

It didn't get cached on my mac mini though :-(

I'll thumb drive it around the place tonight :-)

Undo

@bmike The download from the app store is generic, right?

bmike

22:55

It's fun at work - 1 Gbit fiber

Undo

I'll probably thumb drive it too

bmike

All downloads are generic and cached if you have Server.app configured properly. It then does the signing business on a per-client basis.

Undo

Oh, huh.

has server.app but not configured right, probably

I'll just put it on a thumb drive before installing it on this machine

1hr 9 to go

bmike

That's about how long my clone of the boot drive will take. I want something bootable and then I'm nuking my Mac Pro for a totally clean install

Undo

fun

maxed out iMac (processor, memory, storage, and graphics): $4,399.00

Ima just gonna get as far away from this buy button as possible

2.08/5.16 GB, halfway there

Ian C.

23:50

so slow to download here...

@bmike solid gold link. Thanks you!

Undo

5.1/5.16 :D

Aaaaand I've got it :D

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