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12:10 AM
not a dupe as I explained in a comment below the question. In fact I consider this question to be upvoteable.
OT Mint
 
12:26 AM
no longer needed, I've added it to the post (where it belongs)
not unclear (see answer), but we have something to dupe that to, don't we?
no repro (not too broad)
unclear - it would have needed details to be answerable (it might also be considered OT bug or, though I think least of all, no repro)
 
12:44 AM
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Contains Whitelisted Word - You can; Low Rep; 1.0;
 
I can't understand this question
 
Maybe to make sudo take root's password when run as a non-root user (which can be done)? But I've voted to close it as unclear.
 
@EliahKagan looks the same - dupe this one as well when target is found, maybe
@EliahKagan thanks :)
 
@Zanna We have Why does my NTFS partition mount as read only? It has the needed info, though it's slightly buried.
Well, I've voted to dupe those two, and also this one, to that.
I think this answer should be removed, given the same author's newer, better (even before my edit) answer that includes it.
 
1:09 AM
@EliahKagan oh yeah... the top answer is no longer relevant
Maybe the question could use a TOC
 
2:17 AM
@Natty tp
What does "May be off topic for you" mean in this answer?
 
3:05 AM
@Natty tp
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad asn for hostname in body (1): How to put VueScan in applications start menu by redbax321 on askubuntu.com
 
4:02 AM
@EliahKagan maybe saying the answer might not work? or the question might be off topic?
 
 
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this answer repeats what was in the question, but I somewhat feel that the question should be interpreted as containing the answer (i.e. a Q&A in the wrong format), and the answer kept, as the only other interpretation currently occurring to me is that this is a bug. I am uncertain what should be done though
 
What happened here?
 
Seems fine to me.
 
7:33 AM
@Ravexina what do you mean?
 
It actually answers "What packages is it talking about?"
 
OP is asking "What packages is it talking about?"
Answers gives a correct command to the question.
though it doesn't contain the "real package name"
 
it doesn't answer that :) although, true, it is answering how to find out which is what the title says
so, ok, may be alright as an answer
but I don't think they will be satisfied with that as an answer
they will want to solve the package management problem
 
IMO in worst case it's trying to give a canonical answer.
a comment on the answer would be more helpful I guess than deleting it. IDK.
 
I can't think of anything useful to comment on it, but I am OK with undeleting it
 
7:38 AM
I just wanted to add my opinion on the situation ;)
 
it is not the answer's fault that the question is written in an XY problem manner
and who knows, maybe it really will end there
so if you think the answer should be undeleted, I don't object to that at all
as I see it, they will run the command, they will add the output, that will be an update, the actual solution will then emerge
 
That's actually what I was thinking about...
 
there is already a comment requesting the output
 
I guess we got different views here... to me the name of packages are the answer to the question.
To Karel... seems it's just start of diagnosing!
 
haha let that be the answer then, and let them ask a new question about how to fix it
I agree with karel
 
7:44 AM
So I'm not wrong here neither you two.
the question is unclear.
in conclusion... OP intentionaly is trying to waste our time :|
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well, the answer is OK for the question as written, so it probably should be kept
@Ravexina that seems unlikely to me haha
 
Doesn't matter I'm gonna suspend the OP anyway :D
 
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Low Rep; Unregistered User; 2.5;
 
Why do I feel this was meant to be a spam but the OP pasted wrong link? 🤔
Similar spam deleted some days ago.
 
7:54 AM
unclear all image links are expired
 
8:13 AM
 
@Natty tp Why would WPS help in this case? I assume by WPS, OP mean WPS Office.
 
 
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11:04 AM
should this question be unprotected? The low rep/unregistered feedback suggests the answer didn't work for more than half of the people who saw it
 
11:23 AM
no-longer needed, OP responded to this query by adding the required info in the question.
 
12:24 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in url body, link at beginning of body (132): best electric guitars for beginers? by alvin musk on askubuntu.com
 
1:04 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer (1): How to boot windows 10 from dual boot? by Ome Cor on askubuntu.com
 
1:23 PM
@SmokeDetector rodsbooks is definitely not spam
 
1:41 PM
@Natty tp
@Natty tp
 
2:16 PM
@Zanna does that really qualify as an answer though?
 
I think saying to use rEFInd is (though barely) answery enough for it to get fp rather than naa feedback on SmokeDetector. I'm not sure, maybe I should've given naa feedback. SmokeDetector doesn't really treat the two differently, but they are stored as separate values and one ought to try to get it right. I'll check back and see about comments and other feedback on metasmoke. You should certainly feel free to give naa feedback to Smokey if you believe that is correct.
As for what should actually happen to the post on the site, I'm not sure, but I'm inclined to think it's NAA by our site's standards.
 
no longer needed, answered and accepted. (cc @Kulfy)
 
@EliahKagan yeah
 
The truth is that I would give it tp feedback if Natty reported it so I really should've given naa feedback to Smokey.
I've changed my feedback to naa in metasmoke.
 
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Low Rep; 2.0;
 
2:34 PM
@Zanna Does that question really have enough information to be answered? Is the site's UI even the same now as it was then?
@Zanna Regarding the "Potentially bad ns for domain," that triggers for domains for which one or more authoritative name servers (DNS servers) is also often an authoritative name server for spam domains. The detection is useful, but like most "Potentially" detections it's far from definitive.
 
@EliahKagan the question seemed completely useless to me at first, but then I changed my mind
but I can certainly change it again
 
I'm not sure if the question is good as it stands or not.
 
@EliahKagan I see, thanks for explaining :)
 
One of them, posted on Super User, definitely was spam -- it was copied from the Ubuntu wiki and another link was added, and the purpose of the post was to spam that link. But I'm not sure about the other three, which are on Ask Ubuntu. They don't look like spam at all. The only think that makes me slightly reluctant to give fp feedback is the username similarity to the SU poster.
 
hmm that is odd
 
2:44 PM
It was three posts, and they're almost the same as each other.
Wait, no.
It's two versions of the same post, and one other post.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure this wasn't spam.
(The SU one still was of course.)
(But I don't think it's by the same author.)
 
yes, that user has only 2 posts, one deleted as NAA, and the other one still existing
no spam flags
 
I've commented and given fp feedback on the three AU posts (and tpu feedback on the SU post).
 
3:18 PM
@EliahKagan thanks!
 
4:01 PM
@Zanna No problem!
Btw, if you're not on stackoverflow.com/c/charcoal (and thus unable to read posts like the one linked there) but want to be, you can sign up via metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/channels/email. (That link is not secret, it requires a metasmoke account with SmokeDetector privileges to be used.) Of course you are under no obligation to do so.
 
@pomsky already gone.
 
4:19 PM
The OP of this question found the question on Unix & Linux helpful. Although this is on-topic, I'm afraid that this would remain abandoned for ever. Should this be migrated to U&L where it can be closed as dupe? Downvoted to get Roomba'd (which I don't think is feasible)? Let it stay as it is?
Moreover, I don't agree with the custom close reason "Duplicate of unix.stackexchange.com/questions/46235/…"
 
It can just be answered, and the answer can cite (and possibly quote from) the answer there.
 
I have commented.
 
Thanks.
I think any of us can post an answer whenever. But it's not a bad idea to ask the OP if they want to. Especially since there maybe particular material there that they'd like to emphasize due to its relevance to their situation.
 
@EliahKagan Yes. Since there are 4 high quality answers and I'm not sure which one they found helpful.
 
4:31 PM
Either the output is empty or there is no _SUCCESS pattern in the output, I think.
 
4:42 PM
OP of this question flagged the question and wrote
> I tried all the possible solutions similar to my question either in stackover flow or askubuntu but nothing seems to work, so is it something related to my ubuntu version, do I need to upgrade to 18.04? I've been searching for 3 days now and i'm completely lost!
so, I guess the target did not help them
 
That seems like it would be useful (at least better than nothing) as an edit. But I'm not sure if I should add it in. Are there guidelines about how text obtained from custom mod flags should and should not be used? I would guess that, since you posted it here, it's probably okay to add to the question... but I'd rather check with you than guess.
 
the OP just edited it in themselves
I was about to edit in their sources.list from the pastebin
 
Ah, right.
I should've checked the revision history, it was before our messages.
 
totally my bad!
 
5:08 PM
although I'm sure the question did not have that text when I read it haha
@EliahKagan why not?
@EliahKagan ugh I have totally failed to figure out to do this
it said it sent me an email, but I am pretty sure it went to the wrong place if so
also, I don't think I have such privileges
 
@Zanna How so?
 
I mean, I went to the link, copied the email, followed the link, pasted it, and it said "we sent you an email and you have to click a link in it"
but I don't know where that email went
I went into metasmoke and checked what email is there and changed it to my actual email address
then I did the whole process again
 
The email goes to metasmoke, and metasmoke gives you the link you can use to join the team. The link should appear at metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/channels/link. You never receive an email.
 
I guess I'm totally misunderstanding what I should be doing
@EliahKagan oh
!
thanks for rescuing me
 
No problem -- did that work, or do you want more details?
 
5:15 PM
it worked!
 
Excellent.
 
I now get invited to take the SO tour yet again
 
totally reads the tour, because, they give you a badge for it
but, I'm reading it from my normal SO account, so I already have that badge
I better upvote something instead
 
lol
 
5:20 PM
thanks again, I didn't even know this thing existed!
I should try to do more charcoal stuff
 
If you use the FIRE userscript, you can easily give feedback on Smokey's reports from any room where they appear (and from chat transcripts).
There is also a review queue.
 
I occasionally do go and review some stuff
 
Btw, Sentinel also has a review queue, and most of Natty's reports with no feedback yet seem to be from Ask Ubuntu, even though most overall are from Stack Overflow.
 
oh, we are slacking!
since I had to disable autoflagging, I feel I should make up for it somehow hahaha
 
Why did you have to disable autoflagging?
 
5:24 PM
because nothing survives my flags
 
Right, but I don't think you had to disable it. metasmoke automatically refrains from raising autoflags from mod accounts.
(It's per-site. So metasmoke would still use your account to raise autoflags on sites where you're not a mod.)
 
oh... well Thomas told me to do it
@EliahKagan cool!
@EliahKagan nice
I'm glad I mentioned it
 
@Zanna Hmm, he'd know. Maybe something's broken?
 
that's what I thought, he would know
I looked in the settings, and it says
> We won't cast flags on any sites where you're a moderator, regardless of your settings here. That'd be these sites:

> Ask Ubuntu
 
5:51 PM
sorry, browser crashed in disgust at my general ignorance
I will check with Thomas :)
 
Good idea. There may be something going on that I'm unaware of.
 
 
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7:16 PM
good edit, tag wiki excerpts don't support Markdown
@EliahKagan Well, I guess the punctuation is an improvement. It's minor and I think the formatting change is for the worse though.
 
 
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8:43 PM
 
9:10 PM
OT no-repro: Probably the problem is a hardware problem because I try Windows and it had a blue screen.
 
 
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11:21 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially problematic ns configuration in answer (1): Desktop: No GUI, but system still sleeps? by Stgauss on askubuntu.com
 

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