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I couldn't understand C.S. Cameron's meta post which seems to have some mistakes relating to the situation, but I did vote to reopen this question in review as it's about a different message
 
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@EliahKagan I'm still using this Etherpad - is that right?
04:50
@EliahKagan no-repro is only available on MSE because it works little differently from other metas
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@Zanna Yes. I'm not sure I totally understand the question, but I didn't make an new pad. There is only one snopyta.org-hosted Etherpad instance that I have ever used in my life, and it's that one which you created. :)
That's the one whose contents I replaced with the results obtained by running your broader query and filtering the results locally with my script.
I think there may have been another SEDE dump since I updated it, though, so maybe it should be regenerated again.
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seems unclear. Screenshot's URL expired
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@Kulfy I'm having trouble finding the URL.
05:25
@EliahKagan I pasted wrong link. Fixed.
Do we have something for this?
not a dupe - the commented answer should be posted as an answer
05:43
Do we have something for this? (cc @pomsky)
not off-topic - there is no indication that the system being used is not Ubuntu, it is clearly a separate machine from the other systems mentioned, and a default assumption that people who ask questions here aren't using Ubuntu is bad and I don't believe it's supported by any actual policy.
I'd be fine with asking the OP if they're using Ubuntu or what Ubuntu release they're using or the output of lsb_release -a. None of that has been done. It has a four hour old comment about how the question doesn't mention anything on-topic, which is of course not true, but the comment means it doesn't have the word Ubuntu in it. I don't think it's a good idea to assume the question is off-topic based on that or based on the OP not having replied to it (yet).
@EliahKagan I think it's a mistake to close questions based on something as flimsy as that, and I also think it encourages newcomers to think it's all a game and that what matters is that they use the right words, and thus to claim things that are not true out of the belief that doing so fulfills a bureaucratic requirement.
This
05:52
@EliahKagan I would not regenerate it until we have cleared the current one, unless you change the parameters
Sorry for the unclear question
Just wanted to check I'm doing what I should be doing
What should be done with this? Since the script uses Perl, it won't matter if they are using Ubuntu or CentOS. They only need to change yum to apt if similar packages happens to be in Ubuntu.
@Zanna I was going to ask you about that. I haven't been doing anything with it for several days, so I was wondering if we should just regenerate it. But if you've been using it actively, then we probably shouldn't, as that could lead to more confusion.
06:07
@Kulfy I think that question is straightforwardly on-topic for Ask Ubuntu. It's asking how to make the script work on Ubuntu. The only argument given to consider it off-topic is that it would be better asked elsewhere. That might be so (though I don't think it is), but that doesn't make it off-topic and network-wide policy prohibits us from closing questions we would otherwise consider on-topic on such grounds (given in the "Respecting the community" post by Shog9) to do that.
Also, even in the absence of that policy, I'm not sure where we'd draw the line if we did close questions like that. If someone knows how to do something in LibreOffice in Windows but it doesn't work in Ubuntu, would we push their question off to somewhere both Windows and Ubuntu are supported (like Super User)?
In my opinion, the question to ask is, if the other site we're thinking about didn't exist, would we still be considering closing the question as off-topic? If the answer is no, then we shouldn't close it as off-topic.
@EliahKagan There's never going to be a response from the OP because that question has been abandoned for 4 years. I don't consider it to be much of a museum piece.
Isn't the question just answerable as-is, though? I think that's what @Kulfy was getting at, regarding the changes that would have to be made. If it's not answerable based on the information available, then we could close it as unclear (or maybe no repro). If there's no feasible way to evaluate if answers are correct, we could close it as no repro (or maybe unclear).
Another possibility that comes to my mind is, maybe it can just be closed as a duplicate of a question asking how to do the things that the script is doing, as that would enable someone who knows Perl but does not yet know about package management in Ubuntu to solve it (and other similar problems) pretty easily.
A better comparison than to my hypothetical LibreOffice question might be to the many questions where people ask how to do something in Ubuntu that they know how to do (and perhaps are even mistakenly trying to do) using commands like yum. Those questions are on-topic, but many of them are duplicates.
OT Mint - After closure, I think it may be reasonable to migrate this to Unix & Linux.
Do we have something for this?
@Kulfy I VTC'd it for the more general question for that, so it will also appear in the dupe banner. But I do think the more specific one you picked should appear first in the banner (and thus hopefully get the majority of dupe votes).
@EliahKagan The one I picked got a pretty good and specific answer from Ravexina. The other one also sounds fair
06:23
@Kulfy Yes. That's why I believe it should appear first in the dupe banner. :)
@Kulfy I'm not sure I understand what it's asking. Is it just asking how to read a file into a Bash array?
For that, one would should use mapfile, or its synonym readarray. I believe we have questions with answers covering that.
But maybe I'm not understanding the question properly.
This code i used to convert the input string in the array to ascii and then again back to original string.
Yeah it seems they want to read file contents.
Oddly, I'm having trouble finding anything narrowly about reading the lines of a file into an array. I think we probably do have something though.
I know about this question, which I answered, but I doubt it's a good target, since it's just as much about performing the replacements.
(unrelated) unclear?
POB/too-broad considering "How to improve script" seems very much vague.
@EliahKagan This question is a little closer, but it's about capturing the output of a command (which is a significant complicating factor in this case because typically all commands in a pipeline are run in subshells in Bash so piping to mapfile wouldn't mutate the calling shell's environment.
@Kulfy Yeah, I think that's unclear, without some of the information requested in comments.
@Kulfy It's not vague because they're asking for two specific things. It might be too broad, depending on whether the two things are to be considered closely related or not.
Do we have something for this?
@EliahKagan I have voted to close as too broad
06:32
Regarding one of the comments, I don't think this question is on-topic on Code Review, because it's asking how to make specific changes, not asking for a review of the code as a whole. As I understand it, it's fine to mention what one is unsure about or suspects ought to be changed in a question on Code Review, but asking specific questions about how to do something--as one might on as site like Stack Overflow--is not usually considered on-topic there.
I could be mistaken about that, though, as I'm not active there and I haven't read their rules or their meta recently.
Of course, we don't close questions due to them being "more on-topic" on another site anyway...
@EliahKagan You're not mistaken about that. Code review questions are explicitly off topic at Stack Overflow, so when they get closed at Stack Overflow sometimes the OP reposts it here.
@EliahKagan Indeed.
Does the script in this question intended to be an answer? If yes, it can be removed from there and a CW answer be posted. It has 1 anony upvote.
@karel Right, but this is sort of the opposite case: it's not really a code review question, because it's asking how to do specific things that are not yet implemented--not even in an incomplete or prototypical manner--in the existing code. So I think this would be on-topic on Stack Overflow (but still too broad) but off-topic on Code Review. Likewise I think it's on-topic here, but too broad; I've added my "needs more focus" vote and commented.
06:40
Do we have something for this?
... and this?
"Please improve my code" questions are usually closed as "needs focus" at Stack Overflow. Please translate my code that I copied from a webpage into another programming language are always closed as "needs focus" at Stack Overflow.
Here is my homework problem statement. Please provide working code to complete this assignment is either unclear or needs focus at Stack Overflow.
@EliahKagan sorry for the slow and short replies. I have been working on the Etherpad at a very slow rate (including since the data was updated yesterday). I have only been editing the posts and then deleting them from the pad as I didn't find anything that seemed to require further comment. I noticed that you had regenerated it with your improved dataset and made some comments etc, but I wondered if I might have missed or misread something you might have said about what you wanted to do next
that's why I mentioned it
None of my comments there need to be retained.
I think I only commented to explain why I didn't edit some posts.
Lines with my comments can probably just be removed (including the URLs being commented on). I wasn't sure if I should delete a URL for a post I hadn't actually edited and that would still match the query.
06:47
@EliahKagan yes, those comments were useful
Although blindly copying bashrc from elsewhere may not sound secure, but since OP don't have skel folder, I believe this question can be closed as dupe of this one considering this answer may be applied or the canonical one from which this could be helpful.
This election self-nomination seems not to have an associated questionnaire answer.
Neither they signed CoC
when we started using Trello for the self-answered question query project, we considered what would happen to the posts we were not able to do anything with when we ran the query again and used updated data. We dealt with this by maintaining a no-fix stack on the board. Because the query is ordered by post age ascending, the no-fix posts are always at the top, so I look at the board, find the latest post left in no-fix, and cut the entire csv off above that point when I process it
(but the no-fix pile has always been much smaller than I originally expected)
so, if you do not edit the post, I think it is better to keep it on the Etherpad, to make it easier to remove from the results when updating the data
sorry, I have again not slept enough and I can't understand my own words...
(unrelated) Do we have something canonical for syntax errors in bashrc?
Sorry @Zanna for breaking your flow :D
06:53
I've stopped :)
my first thought is that I don't think we should have a single generic quote for syntax errors in .bashrc
unless we don't care what the errors are and just want to tell people to cp /etc/skel/.bashrc ~/.bashrc
This question can be considered as dupe of this one considering they don't have any major changes in bashrc.
@Zanna I'm wondering if, rather than grepping for what looks like broken code fences, the next version of the script should just use a Markdown parsing library to identify code fences with info strings consisting of anything other than a conventional lower-case name of some commonly used programming language (or none). This would produce different (and far fewer) false positives.
@Zanna There are numerous permutations for syntax error in bashrc. We can't have question for every syntax error I believe.
@Kulfy btw this is always ok - please feel free to post stuff at any time :)
@Zanna I can also make the script accept a whilelist of posts to exclude from its output. If all other posts have been edited and their URLs removed, the Etherpad would contain the whitelist for the next run of the script, which would be an additional (or arguably the same) reason to refrain from deleting those lines from the Etherpad.
06:56
@Kulfy why not?
(unrelated) OT-Mac considering tags.
@Zanna Future readers might find it hard to get what they are looking for, I think.
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@EliahKagan yes, I agree, very good
@Zanna Fortunately, I understand them. Or very confidently imagine that I do. :)
great great
@Zanna I'm not sure if that approach is better or worse, because it won't catch some things that fail entirely to be code fences but were meant to be code fences.
XD
Do we have something for this?
Not that I know of.
I suspect we don't yet have anything for that on Ask Ubuntu.
@Zanna This issue is conceptually similar to how SmokeDetector uses a hand-rolled regex to identify hyperlinks.
unrelatedly, I just received a Notable Question badge for this question. I really hope that people are finding it useful!
@EliahKagan looks like a kernel panic
@EliahKagan That question was self-deleted, so does this mean I shouldn't flag it for migration to Unix & Linux on the grounds that the self-deletion suggests an intention to manually post it elsewhere?
Their comment suggests they plan to post it there, but they don't seem yet to have an account there (but maybe their account is just not linked to the others).
07:07
dupe. Deleted answer mentions a question on U&L helped. The exact question exists on AU also which is posted by same OP.
@EliahKagan @Kulfy Thanks for commenting.
I hope this time this doesn't heat up arguments :)
There's no way to know. :)
It's very rude to point out some stuff I am afraid.
07:11
@EliahKagan needs reopen votes now
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^^^ Oops, it's not opinion based. The security vulnerabilities were fixed a long time ago.
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@Kulfy @EliahKagan You can dupe hammer that one.
07:17
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body, potentially bad keyword in body (58): How can restore files infected with Ransomware virus with file extension (.pezi)? by raed hshl on askubuntu.com
@SmokeDetector is it not spam?
@Kulfy Should we also undelete the answer then? It's more than a link-only answer.
@jokerdino I'm not sure. They might really have gotten a ransomware email with those contents. I had given tp feedback to SmokeDetector initially, but then I realized I wasn't sure and removed my feedback on metasmoke. I have not yet provided other feedback. See also this Charcoal HQ message.
@jokerdino The last part was written like spam. May be worth undeleting.
@EliahKagan Makes sense since OP didn't run all three commands.
@Kulfy Undeleting?
@Kulfy I don't think that's no repro. The solution to the problem described in the question was to run sudo apt-get install -f. That might be considered obvious given the content of the error message, but I don't think that makes it qualify as no repro here. I think we can just close it as a duplicate of a question about that.
@Kulfy I've cast my undelete vote on that answer. Also, I now realize you were probably talking about that answer, not the unrelated possible-spam question, when you said "May be worth undeleting" in the previous message.
07:29
@EliahKagan Yeah, if that wasn't a spam
Oh, nm, it was about that. But the possible-spam question hasn't been deleted yet, has it?
It was undeleted by jokerdino
I flagged it as spam and now I have cleared it
I am still not sure either way.
Ah, okay. Sorry about being constantly a step behind the curve here. :)
just blame caching
07:32
anyway, is that question on topic for us?
I was thinking no, but kind of hard to tell
Based on a cursory search, I believe the pezi ransomware is only for Windows. Also, ScanDisk exists in Windows but not other OSes. So I think it's off-topic due to not being about Ubuntu.
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@Zanna Is that where previously generated blame is stored so it can be used again in a subsequent blaming?
08:07
Since gnome-desktop-item-edit isn't available in newer versions of GNOME, is it worthy to add notice above this answer? (cc @pomsky)
Does undeleted spam results in disputed spam flags? I have 1 disputed spam flag.
@Kulfy Only disputing it will undelete the spam posts
OK so my spam flag wasn't really handled that time?
At first, I flagged it as spam, which will delete+lock the post and all the flags will be marked as helpful.
Then I was confused and people were thinking to undelete or otherwise confusing messages.
So, I cleared the spam flags, which will dispute the previously cleared flags and undelete the post as well.
I see.
(unrelated) OT-IT@School. (I'm out of close votes)
08:27
@EliahKagan hahaha maybe
@Natty oh ok
09:13
@Natty I flagged the other answer and then retracted my flag
although... I don't think that is an answer
we can perhaps edit steeldriver's comment into it and that will do
I am going to VTC that question against the one OP found useful
because "you need to run sudo apt update first" won't usually be what people searching for something like that title will need
self-answer may still benefit from some edit
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@Natty why
@Zanna The NAA Value is 2.5. The explanation for the filters is:
1.0 - Contains ?
0.5 - Low Length
1.0 - Low Rep
looks like an answer to me, though no idea whether it's correct
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@Natty tp spam.
@Kulfy This may be closed against this question (cc @EliahKagan) (I'm out of close votes)
@EliahKagan OP neither mentioned Ubuntu release they are using. Package availability of course depends on the version.
@EliahKagan unclear sounds better
10:06
@Kulfy Looks like a bug, and also a bit unclear to me (OP didn't response)
10:20
@Kulfy Sounds reasonable and useful to me.
 
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@pomsky I removed . You may delete your comments.
OT Kali
@pomsky Till which release was it available?
dupe Fixing the symlink of Python 3 solved the issue.
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@Kulfy last release was disco
Really?!
Kali is not supported here. But things you are asking about are very similar on ubuntu. So just try to change keyword "kali" into "ubuntu". — John Ronald 20 mins ago
12:20
@pomsky I have added a comment.
and upvoted yours.
@pomsky Added note on top.
@Kulfy It should be 19. 10
19.04 was the last release to have the feature
Fixed. Thanks.
I overlooked 19.10 in the linked question.
@Kulfy Still the first sentence needs correction.
Fixed. Again thanks.
@Kulfy Also I would suggest linking the question itself, instead of "pomsky's answer"
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Again done.
 
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@muru hey, if you have time/inclination to look, would appreciate your view on the tag. Many of the questions have something to do with one thing supporting another in a vaguely software sense. Others are just, like, "I need support" or maybe have that tag due to being migrated from meta. @Kulfy asked a meta question about it (which you may have seen). I've been poking at it again lately and still not sure.
Oh, yeah, I remember seeing that tag on a question a few days ago and being surprised. I'm of the opinion it shouldn't exist in its current form, but then I saw it was on 100+ questions and sorta gave up on it.

I hadn't seen Kulfy's post, but I am in favour of nuking it. IMO the only support period we're really concerned about is [canonical]'s, so I don't know if we need a specialized [support-period] tag for it.
Huh, I haven't been in chat for so long I don't even remember how to format .
I personally don't see any benefit in having a tag for something so amorphous as stuff being supported, and can't think of any meaningful precise tags for the subsets of stuff
@muru you haven't, it's just that line breaks kill all the formating
Ah, thanks.
I mean, you haven't forgotten :)
I wish they would fix that... can't be that hard
Maybe either you or Kulfy can nuke as your first action as a mod. I'd wager one of you will get elected. :D
15:44
I think mods can rename tags, but they have to call in the higher powers to actually destroy them. I've already started editing it out of questions that clearly have nothing to do with support in the software sense
anyway, thanks a lot for your input!
definitely feeling overexcited by the election :D
Yeah muru in the house :)
Oh, yeah, mods can only synonymize a tag single handedly.
Only temporarily. Going back to my non-chat haunts now. :)
@Kulfy Are you saying the availability of packages that provide the particular software involved there depends on the version?
@Kulfy I've VTC'd to dupe it to another question that as an answer presenting mapfile. You may want to VTC it for the one you found though... which should itself either get a mapfile answer or perhaps be duped to something.
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adds wrong formatting, one more review needed
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Does this question seem like dupe of this question?
@EliahKagan I didn't search for every package in that script. On a lighter note, at least one of the package httpd is a virtual package being provided by about 14 packages.
@EliahKagan I'm out of votes for today. Will do after 00:00 UTC
@jokerdino seems to be
Is that an improvement?
IMO this shouldn't have approved.
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@Kulfy Well, the package names in Ubuntu will often be different from the package names in CentOS, and the same-named packages in Ubuntu and CentOS are sometimes different things. The differences between how packages are named, and even how software is divided up into separate packages, can be considerable across unrelated distributions.
Yes. But that might make question too broad, I think.
I suspect this question can be closed as a duplicate of something good.
But why is that person logged in as root D:
@Kulfy It should not have been approved. There's a subsequent edit after it by the OP. So I've just edited on top of that to selectively revert the parts of the previous, wrongly approved edit that did not improve the post.
@jokerdino Then why should we wait? :P
@Kulfy Like the previous edit, that one makes some good changes--it is appropriate for paths to be formatted as code--but it also adds spurious code formatting. I've re-edited it to remove the code formatting on text that describes menu items.
17:22
Yeah that fixed somethings and badly formatted other things
@Kulfy comes down to 98 if you filter not closed ones
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Q: How do I fix my locale issue?

HackToHellI am getting this message every time I do something like starting or stopping a service. perl: warning: Setting locale failed. perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: LANGUAGE = "en_US:en", LC_ALL = (unset), LC_MESSAGES = "en_US.UTF-8", ...

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@jokerdino Still more than 16. :D
Rejected.
@EliahKagan Am I missing something here?
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@Kulfy Best of luck in the election! I'll try and get some more rep to vote for you :)
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body (195): purple screen problem ✏️ by ali riza kurt on askubuntu.com
@Daniil Thanks :)
17:50
@Kulfy Maybe, but it's possible we just disagree about what to do for that (which is okay). The formatting improvements are good but I don't think the new wording is actually any clearer. The edit also removes information: the original says that the file /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/root_locale "produces this warning," and the edit removes that, which I think will leave the reader wondering how closely related that file is to the problem and why they are being told to examine it.
That makes sense but the edit also improves overall post.
18:23
looks like a dupe
unclear, OP didn't provide the requested info
@EliahKagan Post already reported
20:05
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at beginning of body (40): Increasing MAX UPLOAD limit for Word Press (I Tried it all) ✏️ by kaos on askubuntu.com
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