not a dupe

no longer needed (It would have been at least as effective to just edit the post to show what sort of information should be in it... which I've done.)

The first comment might be considered no longer needed too, I'm not sure.

@Zanna Can you repin the links message? (I cannot do so because I pinned it before.)

@EliahKagan starring it put it at the top. I should still be able to pin it when it starts to slide off!

Okay.

do you think I should just pin it now?

I have no opinion on the matter. :)

:D

Do we have something for this?

@Natty feedback askubuntu.com/a/1193327 fp

@EliahKagan this one?

VTC'd. It would probably be good to find something that says something about command substitution as well. (And the title mentions process substitution, but maybe they don't mean that. OTOH, process substitution is more closely related to pipelines than any other two of these things are related to each other.)

I think this would work well as a second dupe target for it.

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I feel it is unclear what they want to know about backticks

I take that to mean they want to know about command substitution and how it differs from piping and redirection, since backticks are a syntax for command substitution.

If there is a good duplicate then the OP should ask about the backticks instead of topping off the existing duplicate question (which also makes the question too broad).

This question may be going canonical. I upvoted it. The voting score on this question so far is 3 votes up, 2 down.

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@EliahKagan do the targets look right now?

dupe It's also too broad, but both questions are duplicate linked to separate questions.

@Zanna Yes.

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seems dupe

Although I sympathize with the motivation behind this edit suggestion, I don't think it improves the post. "No improvement whatsoever" applies, but I rejected it with a custom message:

> The prompt shows the directory of interest is the current directory, so it exists (or existed), so the issue here isn't due to a wrongly entered path.

Then again, people might judge that the benefit of the prompt is outweighed by the benefit of simplifying the question.

Even with my answer and the existing comments, though, I expect that if this change is made, the question will get comments or answers claiming that the path was entered wrongly.

(unrelated) Is this edit suggestion really an improvement? There are plenty of releases that answer doesn't address, and it's strange to add 19.04 now but not 19.10, unless the information about 18.04 does not also apply to 19.10. Should it be edited to say "18.04 and later"? I rejected it a "no improvement whatsover" but perhaps I should've used a custom message, or clicked Reject and Edit, or clicked Edit.

@Zanna Do you mean, relating to the question of which of bash and csh they're using?

@Kulfy It's gotten another close vote though, even since dropping from the CV queue, and it's back at 4. I suspect it will be closed.

OT, not about Ubuntu - I didn't vote to migrate it to meta, because it would just get closed there and the migration would be rejected.

@EliahKagan :)

@EliahKagan I worried vaguely about that, but my comment was more prompted by looking at the questions we already have about back ticks when looking for another target. But I agree with your interpretation

I was wondering because while backticks are one of two syntaxes for command substitution in Bourne-style shells, they are (I believe) the only syntax for command substitution in csh and tcsh.

Right, I didn't realise that

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@Natty tp - but maybe it's better edited than deleted

Should the OP's edit be an answer?

Probably, but I am unsure if the OP is claiming anything as a solution.

Yeah :/

@EliahKagan I don't think current directory is of any use since OP was using absolute path with ls. If they were using relative path then it would have been useful. Considering this I approved the suggestion.

@EliahKagan It's in HNQ and already got +16. Still worthy of keeping an eye.

@EliahKagan IIRC this question has been posted multiple times on the site in the past.

@Kulfy The relevance of the current directory is that you can only cd to a directory that exists at the time you cd to it, so that establishes that the path is almost certainly a correct path, i.e., not a typo. There is enough information in the question to discern that it is probably not a typo even without that prompt, because one of the two commands worked, so the edit might be an improvement, and I do admit that the question seems like it may be more readable without it.

But the path in the prompt clearly and directly eliminates what otherwise might appear, to many people, to be the cause the problem (the idea that it could be due to a typo).

@Kulfy Yes, I think by different users. As the recent OP says, it's related to an assignment. It's an interesting assignment... but I don't think it's within the scope of main or meta. If it's within the scope of meta, it would still need to be asked as a question about the site, rather than about how to do a database assignment with additional restrictions that do not apply, as such, to the site itself.

@EliahKagan Hmm.. But what if the codes are swapped? I think the confusion about the existence of directory would also be solved.

@EliahKagan MSE?

@Kulfy As asked, I don't think that would or should be accepted on MSE. But a question like that could be okay for MSE in my opinion, if it were specifically about SE and not asking how to satisfy requirements of an assignment. Even then, I'm not sure how it would be received -- but if the OP were to use SEDE to get a sense of how it works before asking a question, and the question demonstrated this, then I would expect it to be received well.

Indeed.

@Kulfy I'm not sure if they should be swapped. That would address this confusion. But there may be value in having the command that the OP is actually asking about be the one that appears first, as is currently the case.

Perhaps the edit suggestion should be accepted but edited further (i.e., an Edit review) to slightly reword it, so that it is clearer that they are the same directory.

> But this command, in which I manually expand ~ but which is otherwise the same, does:

"This ain't working but this is working" and "This is working but it isn't" I think more or less the same

@EliahKagan ^ Something like that, but not that, because that's worded in a confusing and cumbersome way.

@Kulfy They're both acceptable ways to ask a question, yes.

Yeah I think an edit review would be fine

Maybe another sentence at the very end?

> This is not due to a typo, since the commands are the same except for ~ being replaced by /home/daniel.

(Maybe not that precise wording but I think that's better than my earlier idea.)

This also seems good

@Zanna Do you feel like doing an Edit review? You're under no obligation, of course.

(Kulfy and I have already submitted reviews, and if the prompt is to be removed, it would probably be best for the editor to get credit for the edit, so I don't think overriding it from the revision history is the best way.)

To me the \w really seems like a distraction but maybe that's because the problem is clear to me

You should feel free to simply approve the edit suggestion if you consider it good.

I don't see why people would think it could be a typo...

@EliahKagan There was a previous edit suggestion on the same question, when there were tag edits to be done, that removed the prompt for the same reason. I clicked Reject and Edit on that (see the revision history and timeline). It seems likely that I am in the minority in my view that the prompt is helping. I don't think you should feel reluctant to simply approve the edit, if you believe it is an improvement. The post can always be edited further afterwards (and the OP can always override it).

But I would not approve such an edit suggestion usually

It does remove information which is at least related to the command

@Zanna "No such file or directory" sometimes arises from typos, and people tend to assume something is a typo--or some other frequently encountered problem--when they don't immediately notice the problem. (At about the same time as I posted my answer, the question got a comment saying the problem was because the path contained spaces and needed to be quoted.)

@Zanna Maybe the edit should be approved but the title should be made more detailed?

I rejected it

Any thoughts on that other one? I rejected it too, but can/should it be accepted and improved?

OT programming, implement the Burning Ship fractal using Java code

@EliahKagan I approved it

That's an addition of useful information I suppose

But if someone can test it in 19.10 it could be better...

But, maybe, it will be bad to have a long list of eventually-obsolete releases there

I think the main thing that needs to be tested before putting 19.10 in is:

> there is no longer any way to set the compose key within the regular system settings

@karel VTC'd, 1 more needed

I wonder if this answer should be edited to reflect the username change of the author of the answer it links to

@Zanna That's the type of edit that I would usually do on my own post if I caught it for the sake of accuracy.

@Zanna If there were no other changes to make, then I would most often only personally do such an edit if I thought the referred-to user would want it done. However, in either case I would accept such an edit in review -- especially on my own post, but also on any post. In this post, there are some other improvements that I can make. Feel free to do the edit yourself now if you like. When I edit it soon(ish), I'll keep the change, or make the change if you have not made it.

Is this an answer to the question that was asked that is wrong (but not NAA), or is it an attempt to answer a different question (i.e., due to a misinterpretation of the question, rather than a false belief about what $(ls) does in bash)?

Hmm

@EliahKagan I will leave it :)

Okay. I will change it soon.

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@Zanna Edit done.

@Natty tp

Although it looks like it conflicts with the author's intent, I think this edit should be approved. I believe the editor is the same person (with a re-created account) as the post author.

not no repro, because there is an answer posted that, based on the details in the question, is likely to have worked, and that is (more importantly) likely to work for others who find the question by searching and who have the same problem as described in the question.

This should probably be expanded.

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@EliahKagan very nice edit

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@Natty tp

@Zanna Thanks.

good answer

OT

I have seen this question before.

@Kulfy On Ask Ubuntu?

By the same OP or someone else?

It's potentially a good question, though it would benefit from more research, and most importantly it's off-topic for Ask Ubuntu. If you find this asked well somewhere like Unix & Linux, I am quite interested. I don't run Unity on any operating systems, myself, but I'm interested in why it is that it seems so challenging to get working on non-Ubuntu systems.

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Actually maybe not.

I've commented.

If they indicate that's intended as an answer, then fp or (if appropriate) ne feedback should be given to Natty on the post to invalidate my report, so that Natty is not mistrained. (I can do that, but I might not be the first to notice it should be done.)

This is the review item.

(unrelated) Should this be reopened? I am not sure. @pomsky

@EliahKagan Yeah but not sure if OP was same.

Do we have something more general for recent 3 questions of this user?

I think we have more general questions about how to find what version something is, but I suspect those specific questions shouldn't be closed as duplicates of something more general.

I'm not sure why I'm wondering if these questions aren't closed as dupe of something general, we might end up having something like that for every package available.

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@Natty tp

OT Pop!_OS

@Kulfy If we did have a very large number of them, then I think many of them could be closed as duplicates, but not all as duplicates of the same question. For example, GNU utilities (and some others) support -V and --version; all the questions about those could get closed as a duplicate of the same question, which could have answers explaining -V and --version and that a few, but far from all, GNU utilities support -dumpverson for a short version string.

Even there, that might not be granular enough. Maybe the few that do support -dumpversion, like gcc, would clump together with a different dupe target.

Is it clear enough?

More information could be useful, such as what the OP does know about the file (since they don't know the file's name). edit: I've [commented]

@EliahKagan Yeah. I think an answer which explains how to use grep or awk to extract version would be useful.

not off-topic

@EliahKagan I have (edited and) reopened it, but I'm not sure whether OP can get anything better than this suggestion of mine.

Thanks.

deletable, not useful for the specific question

no longer needed

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I'm no sure what the best thing is to do here. See my edit.

*not sure

@pomsky Update: removed the comment and expanded it to an answer.

:(

@Zanna ?

does not seem off-topic

no longer needed - as written, it doesn't make any sense -- also, the last image link in the question is not an image of terminal text and very well may be the best way to convey the information it is meant to convey.

I guess it's no repro. I must've missed that comment.

A third editor has separately submitted a suggested edit to remove the current working directory from the prompt, in the question about ~ in double quotes. I'm not sure what should be done, but this does constitute mounting evidence that the information in the prompt may be widely regarded as best removed, for clarity.

If the current pending edit is approved, it would best be done with an Edit review, since if the prompt is to be shortened, then the new prompt shouldn't be $>, it should just be $.

dupe

unclear

currently very unclear

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@Natty tp

@Natty tp

seems unclear

Allow “homework” questions?

What do we do with homework-like questions?

Ask Ubuntu's stance on Homework-type questions

seems dupe

dupe or unclear

no longer needed - its propensity to confuse and mislead is decisively greater than its humor value, unfortunately

@EliahKagan Deleted, btw. The existing (other) comment urging the OP to ask a specific question is not a problem (certainly it does not need to be flagged).

seems dupe