Yeah, I believe it is. It could use some explanation or references though.

libssl1.0.0 is the one which had the heartbleed bug

dont remember the CVE thou but it could be looked up

POB (or unclear, or possibly too broad).

@EliahKagan it looks good enough to me

I've just custom-flagged it.

I voted to delete this question but the OP actually hasn't checked back since they posted it. I doubt my comment would actually enable them to turn it into anything we would reopen, but should we hold off on deleting it anyway?

@Videonauth You had a "Looks OK" button that you could click for that? The link is to a Late Answers review item.

So as mentioned above I think I was wrong to delete that answer. You mentioned that it was correct. jokerdino made it into a comment but I feel like we should undelete it. I can't vote to undelete it; I guess answers converted to comments after deletion have the same status as answers directly deleted by moderators?

Since you know about the technical issue and have information that will support the answer, can you add some explanation to it and we'll flag it for undeletion or I can ping-reply to jokerdino's message and request undeletion?

I feel bad to have made a mistake that I need the help of at least two other people to fix properly... but I do. Assuming it is even wise to try undeleting it, which I believe it is.

@EliahKagan well I also voted to delete it

k

(For the benefit of those reading this transcript later, since stuff gets confusing: the question I'm talking about deleting and the answer I'm talking about undeleting are different posts. :)

@EliahKagan sometimes I think it makes sense to keep questions that are really about hardware/firmware and not the OS because people will reasonably think that the problem is the OS when they encounter it. But I think most people would not think that issue was caused by Ubuntu or fixable in Ubuntu, and it will probably help more people on SU

Or where there is reason to think the problem is Ubuntu specific, even if only partly, and even if it's not confirmed that it is partly Ubuntu specific. I also didn't cast a close vote on that question. Now that it's closed, though, I don't think there's any way to justify reopening it (given none of the above) so I think the best thing that can be done with it is to migrate it. That will get it seen and possibly get alternative answers; also, most closed non-duplicates get deleted.

When I said it was correct, I meant that I've been running my own BayTrail machine on the 17.10 Ubuntu kernel without the parameter that disables c-state power saving and prevents the freezes, and I also haven't had any freezes yet.

This data gets marginally more convincing over time, but I haven't posted an answer because I haven't made time to find out what changed in the i915 driver in this vanilla or Ubuntu-patched kernel. I also fear there was a regression in 4.14...

But I do support undeleting the answer. I tried to vote to undelete it the other day when I said I agreed with what it said

Can it be edited to give any more information at all?

@EliahKagan agreed

@EliahKagan hmm presumably we can add that the intel_idle.max_cstate=1 parameter isn't being used on that system. This is sort of boringly obvious, but I would mention of it if I answered, partly because it might help make the information more searchable

Is there somewhere that other people besides the author of that post has said that it works on 17.10?

Well, I could dig through the forum thread, and if I don't find anything, I could er fabricate secondary sources by making an inane post there saying it seems to work. But I should really do that proper research

You could include a link to your chat message. :)

That would be reasonable :)

But maybe slightly confusing to readers given the lack of relevant context

We could just ask for it to be undeleted without modification, or after rewording the thing about the mic.

When you voted to undelete it and found you couldn't, was that before or after jokerdino made it into a comment?

I could express my corroboration of the fixedness mentioned in the answer by upvoting it

@EliahKagan I don't know, because I only saw it was deleted, I didn't realise it had been made into a comment

The sound card is, I take it, totally unrelated?

Thanks for editing. Anything else that you think might help the post?

Ah the answer seems to be about a GPU, not CPU, so I wouldn't want to interpolate anything into it as I'm not sure it behaves in the same way. And even if someone else posts an answer about the CPU issue with more detail, that one will still be useful

There's Bay Trail graphics without a Bay Trail CPU?

@EliahKagan yes, although my mic doesn't work either, even with the kernel patch that supports audio

So it actually is NAA?

@EliahKagan well, there is at least one BayTrail GPU that also freezes on attempting to enter unsupported c-states

I suppose it could be NAA, but now I'm having an unpleasant feeling that I did something terrible... the only reference to the CPU in the title is a link to a question which I answered. That question was originally about the GPU, but, I didn't know there was a BayTrail GPU when I answered it. After some discussion with the OP, we left it as being about the CPU because it seemed a better solution than deleting the answer that had already been upvoted.

So Bay Trail graphics isn't integrated?

Reading the later comments on the bugzilla thread, I don't think the patch I mentioned in that answer fixed the problem for everyone, although some reported that they had no issues or an improvement. It was included in 4.13 as I'd assumed. But the problem seems pretty recalcitrant.

@EliahKagan well, my system doesn't have a discrete graphics card, and lots of these systems are similarly low-budget... so I guess the CPU is doing the graphics processing

It may be that I don't really understand Bay Trail... but while you can use a discrete graphics card, doesn't using Bay Trail graphics mean you have a Bay Trail CPU?

I don't understand graphics, but, I thought it might not mean that, although it probably does

My impression is that Bay Trail integrates graphics uses the processor.

I guess that could be wrong. Like if it's on-board graphics. Though the board's chipset would still have to be compatible with non Bay Trail processors for them to be used. I don't know much anything about Bay Trail.

Hmm I don't know much in general, so I'm going to stop saying confusing things

I wonder why this post got deleted as spam/abusive

@Zanna So should we ask for that Bay Trail post to be undeleted or not?

I am not sure :( but I still think it is an answer and better than no answer, it's just a vague and rather insubstantial one

I disagree with the post author that this is not an answer... not sure if I should Edit it somehow... or should it be considered NAA?

I think I will try to write an answer to the BayTrail question, but I don't think I will have time today (it's my birthday)

@Zanna I don't know but it's not locked so it wasn't deleted as spam or rude or abusive and the author did not get rep deducted or pushed extra hard toward being answer-banned as a result. The system hides deleted post contents on a question page if the post got any red flags before being deleted, even if it was deleted for a different reason.

Someone probably assumed that thanking someone in a non-English language was not merely not an answer, but also was something a reasonable person would consider inappropriate for respectful discourse. I've actually spent most of the time since I posted my previous message trying to think up adequately snarky things to say about that, and fully developed three distinct ideas (not including this meta-snark), but ultimately it's just not adequate.

It does suggest something that may be missing in that answer though, which I'm reluctant to add because I couldn't be sure those who've already voted would agree with it: even if we did want to expand "rude or abusive" just enough to cover "rants," we would fail entirely to do so and cover massively more, which we would then never notice because the system hides posts from 10k users at the slightest provocation.

@EliahKagan oh thank you for educating :) I didn't clearly understand that

@EliahKagan yes I agree we would fail

@EliahKagan lol

@Zanna Yeah, I guess it's really a higher quality, more detailed version of another answer, and thus shouldn't be NAA. Its state of near-deletion is my fault, sorry! So you could edit it.

No problem! It wouldn't be unreasonable to delete... we delete posts that are more like user stories and don't directly address the question and often I agree with doing that. But I think that one is helpful and worth keeping

I couldn't review it for some reason... why is the LQP queue so touchy?

I don't know.

I think this question is OT

this isn't a dupe imho because it's really about globbing

related to my question on globbing for hidden files

@Zanna I think ntfsfix usage in Ubuntu is on-topic, though the question might need more information. Using ntfsfix in Linux Mint is off-topic for Ask Ubuntu though.

@Zanna Is the posted answer sufficient?

@EliahKagan yeah. I might not have voted to close it as OT if I didn't think OP was using Mint, though I would probably have voted to close it as unclear

@EliahKagan hmm... I think the answer is OK, though not great... but if the question is a dupe, it's not a dupe of the question about recursive chmod

@Zanna Do you know what it's a dupe of? I think these days even a minority of one gets their dupe suggestion in the banner.

I don't know of similar questions, apart from this one but that's quite specific, the answer probably doesn't add anything helpful and I'm not even sure it's all correct or clear (though I am in a unique position to fix that :) )

This impatient user asked the same question 6 times: 1. askubuntu.com/questions/967289/… 2. askubuntu.com/questions/967519/… 3. askubuntu.com/questions/967507/cant-open-ubuntu-ithout-usb-disk 4. askubuntu.com/questions/967459/…

5. askubuntu.com/questions/969871/… 6. askubuntu.com/questions/970092/…

Two different questions, OP was using elementary OS and now wants answer on AU.

Questions that are invariably about getting drivers to work is going to be impossible to answer adequately on AU because of possible Ubuntu specific kernels and patches.

Yeah totally agree. Commented

@EliahKagan I answered it, and I quoted some of your chat messages... I hope it was OK to do that. I should have asked first...

@jokerdino I wonder if they are being honest :S

@jokerdino thanks for undeleting the BayTrail answer. Since it got flagged again I edited it further. I will add more detail to it if I can. Cc @EliahKagan

@EliahKagan yeah well, looks ok/ no action needed is for me the same :)

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Is there any program that can open files from Sketch by Peter Stacho on askubuntu.com

@Videonauth I forgot to thank you for mentioning that python 3 became the default python in 17.10. I have been too preoccupied lazy to even read the release notes so far and would totally have called python and spent ages cluelessly trying to figure out why my tutotial-copied code isn't working

:)

you're very welcome

:)

allthough i got 2.7 installed as i installed some software

not all and everything is already using 3

Anything I could add? askubuntu.com/questions/970524/…

O.k. now i failed my 2nd audit today ....

after days of no failures

and i think this one is not really clear to me

askubuntu.com/review/first-posts/769945

beside it misses the fact that you have to install aptitude first

@Videonauth well apt-get install -f failed to resolve it, so suggesting aptitude install -f will resolve it without explanation isn't very convincing. But it's not a good audit I think

i never used aptitude before so could not verify if its correct

well i have gone back to my usual habit of cross checking

aptitude is quite good I think... maybe better than APT at calculating a solution. But I also haven't used it

Anyway, since that was first posts, a comment at least asking why they think that would work would be warranted imho

but I personally have strong feelings about how that queue is reviewed

adding a comment always passes a review audit haha

but it is a little annoying when you spend more than a little time and effort writing what you think is a really helpful comment and it turns out to be an audit

yep

on this i took a look at ok he actually proposes a solution, thought well its not good either so voting on it was out of the question so i gave it a bypass

--> askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/770037 approve or not to approve?

hmm to me it looks like a good edit

but on examining the question, I guess the example is a little confusing

so I'm not sure (I don't really know about this topic) and I'd skip it

"ran" should be "run" though :)

skiped it

normaly i got told if its an essential change in the post dont approve but im really not sure about this one

sometimes I add a lot of information to make a low quality answer better. I try to approve suggested edits if I would make them myself. But I have to know what I'm doing to make such edits, so I can only approve drastic edits if I'm sure they are right

I mean, I have to know every suggested edit is right to approve it, but I can usually see if grammar, formatting etc have been corrected appropriately without any further technical or contextual information

I#m sitll thinking about what i could add to my answer here. somehow o not feel satified with it

it looks good, but I have no idea about this topic

Its what i recall from my testing before i switched to 17.10 and what i could test in a actual VM

still lacking a suggestion for rolling with the webcam

so im actually only partly answer the question

--> askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/770066 mhmmm another one who has not heard of apt

not heard of apt? I don't understand what you mean

check the markdown side by seide and the message he left for his edit :)

replacing apt with apt-get

oh sorry! I was looking at the other change

so dazzled by Blue Planet II I can't see properly :)

Yeah I see edits like that sometimes too

attenborough <3

^