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11:53 AM
jokerdino has unfrozen this room.
jokerdino has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
jokerdino has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
jokerdino has stopped a feed from being posted into this room
 
12:47 PM
room topic changed to Raiders of the Lost Downboat: Place to sail the open sea, and search out boats to take down. (no tags)
room topic changed to Raiders of the Lost Downboat: Place to sail the open sea, and search out boats to take down. Trello board - trello.com/b/N4tGabC2/ask-ubuntu-abandoned-questions-cleanup Guide to handling Trello board - docs.google.com/document/d/… (no tags)
 
aha! aking2012 renamed to RobotHumans! was searching him
 
Hahaha, yes he did.
 
nice. found one more old fellow
 
Zanna, you can update your GDoc message.
 
12:55 PM
Guide to using the Trello board docs.google.com/document/d/…
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Pin it so it has 3 stars.
Oh Anwar.
 
what? I pinned it.
 
omg powers
 
@Anwar I know.
The star wall is ours.
 
:)
 
1:00 PM
And no more discussion about wolfboat here anymore.
 
hurrah!
 
well, Regulators is a pretty general room and we can't really say it is only for us and our business. It doesn't feel right.
So, best thing would be to move ourselves to a separate place so we can do our work without much interruption.
 
Yes. And good thing is this room was set up for that same purpose.
 
Yes, that gives us more control over what we want in here.
 
Sorry I was just saving some transcripts from the other room
so I can close the tab
 
1:10 PM
Eh, bookmark it for reference?
 
something like that :)
 
You know you can bookmark chat conversations, right?
 
in a special way?
 
I'll be back later. Need to complete some work. cya
 
1:16 PM
cya
 
bye :)
hmm I see what you mean but not how it was done, but I only want that stuff for myself, so it's alright
 
All right.
If you both don't want to be here, then we can go back there. I go where you want.
 
@jokerdino I agree with this
so here is fine. I am always a little bit disturbed by change
 
1:32 PM
That's true for me too. But changes become essential due to reasons.
 
just in case I lose it...
@jokerdino even the changes I know are good disturb me at first, so I have to make peace with them
 
May you unite with peace soon.
For me, it seemed we increasingly were involving ourselves with matters that are not pertinent to our mission.
 
oh please clarify, what matters and what mission?
 
our matters with whether wolfbot should be in Regulators or not and our mission with the Trello board.
perhaps, task is a better word than mission.
ah, I am talking nonsense again.
 
oh yes, in general I prefer to relocate than have an argument, when space isn't an issue
heh I call it a project, personally... mission sounds a bit wrong... slightly reminiscent of crusade
I try to stand up for other folks and stuff I believe in, but when it's just my own feelings getting in the way of what someone else wants to do then I am uncomfortable & don't know what to do, I'm glad to get out of the situation
 
1:48 PM
@Zanna heh, we kept saying the bot should be in a dedicated room.. that made me think about ourselves.
@Zanna I consulted a dictionary. Mission seems all right but a better word like the one you suggested is probably preferable.
 
I thought this might happen, but I didn't want to either flounce off or go without a little protest
@jokerdino my mummy says "I'm on a mission" when she's very determined to finish it there and then and "It's a project" when it's going to take a long time...
@jokerdino this has never actually happened to my knowledge!
 
@Zanna I was just afraid we might be escalating the situation.
 
@jokerdino yeah it was a good call by you as always, I think we avoided bad feelings
 
guess all my things are going to be called projects from now on.
 
hahahaha
gtg :( how did it become so late? I will be on mobile...
 
1:54 PM
Cya.
Hm, I guess it might indeed look like we stormed out of the room.. but it wasn't my intention.
This was the only way I saw where we could both coexist and do their own things without interference from the other.
Too much talking now.. back to work.
 
2:09 PM
@jokerdino I will find some spoons to avoid giving that impression. I feel slightly kicked out, but it's not fair, not their fault
 
It should be mostly my own fault.
 
@jokerdino xxx
@jokerdino not even 0.1%
You only fixed it...
 
eh, I moved you people from one place to another. That was a disturbance.
Potentially might also lead to differences between pro botters and us.
 
You didn't create the situation but found the best way out of it
Tunnel!
 
2:41 PM
@Zanna :)x
 
2:56 PM
Idk how it happened that people think they should ask my opinion & give me powers, you must have done this somehow!
 
What? It was you, not me.
 
3:15 PM
Heh it was you ;)
 
Nope. Not me.
 
3:40 PM
@Anwar still see all those Elegantt things
 
I followed the link and installed it earlier.
Now I removed it and it's gone.
 
3:57 PM
Ah, thanks for that
 
4:33 PM
@jokerdino I know how you were feeling. Hope everyone will understand the reason
@Zanna I too am interested to know the answer. I have 3xYour rep but no one asked my opinion ;)
 
:((
 
Zachs answer was a half-answer. but I didn't want to lenthen the topic
 
@Anwar makes no sense to me
I must just be noisy or something
 
@Anwar FWIW, I was bypassed too.
Maybe because only Zanna was speaking about/against the bot.
 
I think that
 
4:41 PM
I didn't want the bot but I didn't say much either.
 
I felt I said too much
 
She left a comment on meta answer. But that doesn't say much on how many are against it. And I think we aren't against the bot basically. only on that room
 
Or perhaps only Zanna was around when Zach or Kaz were visiting the room.
 
Yeah I had a discussion with them
Maybe they just wanted to gratify me so I would agree
 
^ that can be the reason?
 
4:44 PM
@Anwar I am pretty neutral towards the bot and other mods don't want it in General room. I don't want it to disrupt us in Regulators room though.
 
I too am. Didn't give much thought on that actually.
 
See it's only because they saw me as the obstacle
Now it makes sense I think
 
It's not right of them to say only Zanna's opinion or approval matters.. So, I am with you @Anwar.
Maybe they might have tried to appease us if we also raised our voices against the bot.
@Zanna This is not about you.. Don't take it that way. You are a lovely person who has wonderful things to say. This is something else altogether.
 
@jokerdino I'm just embarrassed that I didn't protest enough about that
I agree completely that it was not right and not about me
 
the two answers here meta.askubuntu.com/questions/16140/where-should-wolfbot-live basically says to put it in general room. there was 3+2 upvotes on them. So, Assuming it's only her is wrong. And also it's not very good looking for bringing the discussion over and over in chat. As she said pretty early that she will be with the opinion of the community.
 
5:01 PM
I deleted my comment on the meta post earlier :S
 
Seth said if active users in Regulators room are fine with it, the bot can be there.
Somehow, the plural was lost.
I guess maybe I should give you an opportunity to voice your opinion. What do you say about the bot being there?
 
ha ha. that's what happened.
I was in favor of General room. One of the I upvote was mine
Then I said it would be better if the bot has dedicated room. Since the regulator room is already occupied for a task
 
I agreed with you on both
 
@Anwar That is similar to what I had in mind.
 
The bot brings OT questions. And if it had a dedicated room we could just visit on suitable time and vote.
 
5:10 PM
In addition, I didn't like that they want their bot in the room where they are not active and want to push their case.
Eh, I probably won't be visiting the bot room. ;) I have so many things to keep tabs on that I try to ignore as much as possible already ;)
 
hmm. That was also a good reason to oppose.
I know you couldn't visit, I mean we. normal users :)
 
I suppose we have settled the issue and brought a closure to it at least personally?
 
Yes.
 
Happy to hear that.
 
I'm also glad we sorted that out
 
5:49 PM
edwin was in the regulator room and helping.
 
Yes! And in the credits of my guide...
 
6:05 PM
No reason to focus on me, they saw me as the problem since I'd said things. Maybe the transcript makes it clearer, since they started all that noisy one-boxing
But I didn't see myself as being able to stop them, I never claimed that it was my decision somehow as far as I can see
 
6:44 PM
After all that I think I have to take a break from the board for the rest of the day (such as it is), as again I can't understand anything
 
7:38 PM
Seems like speculation askubuntu.com/questions/419474
 
 
2 hours later…
9:13 PM
Archived two just now after checking on comments I left earlier - OP had accepted. Decent success rate with that so far :)
 

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