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3:07 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +5 more (790): mumybear.org/slim-fit-180-keto/ by bsibichittard on askubuntu.com
 
@karel It got closed anyway. I've voted to reopen it.
@Zanna ^^ I guess the silver lining is that there is now another example! :)
 
3:24 AM
nice :)
kind of
 
3:38 AM
@Kulfy I think it's ok, but it was put on hold. I didn't realise that when I edited it
 
3:49 AM
@EliahKagan VTR
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad keyword in answer, username similar to website in answer (58): How can I play PokemonGo on Ubuntu? by tech4ubox on askubuntu.com
 
4:06 AM
I think both this and that are deletable (per comments).
 
4:23 AM
@Zanna Is it worth reopening?
 
@Kulfy Probably. I'd guess the issue is on Windows' side and they ought to get a comment saying Super User might be more likely to give them an answer. But I think it's wrongly closed
 
needs to be reopened, can be reproduced easily with many icon themes with variations
 
I agree. I wonder if the first sentence of the answer should be reworded.
 
what exactly did they mean to express? That it was not a bug with the theme? That it was easily fixed?
 
4:32 AM
@EliahKagan I also feel so, removed it
 
How do you feel about
> As it turns out, there was no major issue.
?
Or do you think it's better just without it?
 
@EliahKagan that seems good :)
 
@eliah I feel it's better without it. Even though it's quite common for a variation of an icon theme to inherit the mother theme, it's quite non-trivial for the end-user to realise that.
 
(unrelated to that) Assuming that this question gets reopened, which is looking likely, should I keep my comment for a while so people can reply to it to say why they want reclosure?
I'm inclined to think the close votes resulted from some combination of inattention to the question (and its comments) and, um, creative interpretations of POB that can't really be supported. But I don't actually know this to be the case.
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user (156): How to have the ANT video downloader extension work on newest ubuntu+firefox by llucianooliveira on askubuntu.com
 
4:40 AM
@EliahKagan Cast the last vote, I feel it's better to keep the comment.
 
Thanks. I'll leave it, for a while anyway.
Btw, it was neat to see this:
 
@EliahKagan The count of reopen votes was shown as 5, without the question being shown as reopened. I don't know if that's considered a bug or not. I doubt anybody else saw that--it must have to do with the timing of my loading and interacting with the page as the fifth vote was cast.
@Natty tp
@EliahKagan In contrast to whatever was going on with the broken symlinks question, this other recent POB closure is totally correct... but I think it would be great if the question could be fixed up. Judging by the OP's acceptance of my answer, I think that's reasonable, but I'm not confident as to how to do that right.
 
4:57 AM
@Zanna Yeah but I'm not sure if it's worth reopening
 
@EliahKagan something's been bothering me about that closure
or about the question
I mean, in general I feel that someone wanting to both close a question and answer it is a sign that something unusual is going on
 
@Zanna it's deletable now.
 
but also I feel like I get the question but I don't know how to make it look right for the site
@pomsky thanks :)
@Zanna like, when they say
> is people who write these books/blogs/whatever aware of this?
that's not a question we can answer of course
but I feel they are really asking, do all these people know something I don't, and if so, what? Like, is the situation more complex than it appears?
even without the illuminating answer which totally clears up the confusion I can feel the OP having, I know what they're confused about
 
5:22 AM
Good point.
When I first saw the question, I downvoted it and voted to close it as unclear. A minute or two later, I realized that I could answer it, and so I should probably not have voted to close it as unclear. I undownvoted and retracted my close vote, then wrote and posted an answer.
I think it should still be improved before any attempt is made to reopen it, though.
@Zanna I had not interpreted that as an expression of doubt or personal uncertainty, but you have a good point that it might have been.
 
6:00 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, +5 more (691): https supplementtycoon com/quick-keto-boost/ by balushcharsons on askubuntu.com
 
6:40 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, body starts with title and ends in url, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, +3 more (492): you're similar to us, by umancims on askubuntu.com
 
@EliahKagan based on empathy, I would guess that their complete thought would have been along the lines of my colleagues are smart folks... these bloggers seem to know what they're talking about in general... people who write books about stuff have probably done their research... so can it really be the case that all of them are unaware of something even I know, or is there a better explanation?
other reasons why I think this are that the question "are people aware of this?" is not in itself interesting, except insofar as its answer may supply part of the expl4n4tion for why smart people use the vi comm4nd, that is, either people are just not 4w4re th4t Vi 4s such is not inst4lle0, or, more likely, they know something I don't. 4nd wh4t is it they know th4t I don't? is the re4l question
(after reboot to try to get my a key to work) and also, as well as being boring, the question "are these people aware of this?" taken literally is very clearly not a question in the scope of Ask Ubuntu, is not a technical or theoretical question about Ubuntu or Linux or Vi(m), and the writer of the question would probably realise that
 
7:02 AM
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8:15 AM
@Natty tp
@Zanna I think it's for you
 
@Kulfy my technical knowledge in this area is zero, but I think we simply allow VM questions where either the guest or host is Ubuntu, and I don't know what criteria people are using to decide that this question is off-topic, but if it is wrongly closed then we should probably reopen it to avoid setting a bad precedent
@Kulfy but none of the links in my answer are dead...
 
@Zanna wget
@Zanna I've voted to reopen.
 
ok... looks like I'll have to dig through the recent posts on the forum, because my sound is only working with harryharryharry's kernel, so I don't know what harryharryharry means about not needing a custom kernel any more
is it just me or are technical forums incredibly tedious and laborious to sift through for what you want after getting used to Stack Exchange?
@Kulfy thanks for catching this
 
@Zanna Yeah forums usually have lot of noise.
 
I'll have to put it on my to-do list for later :(
@Kulfy me too
 
8:33 AM
Great!!!
 
:)
 
the formatting fix suggested here is spot on but I have no idea about the code modification :(
 
This looks more like a C program.
I approved that
@Natty fp
 
@Natty tp
 
@Natty tp
 
10:14 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url-only title, bad ip for hostname in body, bad ip for hostname in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, +6 more (893): time2trends.com/ultra-fast-keto-boost-shark-tank/ by JohnWester on askubuntu.com
 
11:01 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching product name in body, potentially bad ns for domain in body, potentially bad keyword in body (197): not to leave the pack revealed Direct a by Alsent on askubuntu.com
 
12:00 PM
@Kulfy Where did the identifier rawsock, which is being assigned to, come from?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Url-only title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, +9 more (989): faqssupplement.com/keto-plus-latam/ by yarishmaruy on askubuntu.com
 
@Natty tp
 
 
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[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; Low Rep; 0.5;
 
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; One Line only; Low Rep; 3.0;
 
@EliahKagan Post already registered as True Positive
 
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; One Line only; Low Rep; 2.5;
 
[ Natty | Sentinel ] Link to Post Low Length; No Code Block; Low Rep; 2.5;
 
What does the tag wiki for mean by this?
> All consist of plain text and are considered to be a special type of text file
 
1:59 PM
@EliahKagan that stdin stdout and stderr are text files?
 
That's not true, though. They need not be text files, and often are not.
They're also not any special type of file. Like, they can be almost anything, including regular files, block devices, character devices, FIFOs (i.e., named pipes), and whatever other things they can be that I'm forgetting.
 
@EliahKagan As far as I can tell that's a global variable declared outside of the main. This or this seems to be the full program.
 
So it looks like that code block is from a specific source code file in the implementation of ping? If so, it would benefit a lot from a reference and link.
 
2:15 PM
Indeed.
Comments are in Chinese btw
 
@EliahKagan many wrong things in tag wikis :(
 
@Kulfy I think it's possible for a VM question to be entirely about something on a host or guest that isn't Ubuntu, even when the other one is Ubuntu, and thus off-topic. But I have no reason to think that's what's going on in that question, so I've added my reopen vote.
 
Yeah. I'm not sure too.
 
2:49 PM
@Zanna I've tried to improve it while still maintaining the good things about it like its simplicity and its focus on how the standard streams are often used in programs run from a terminal.
Further edits would probably be good, both to improve (or replace) some my own wording and to fix any other problems.
 
@EliahKagan looks great, thanks for doing that!
 
No problem!
Do questions that don't initially have a tag but get the tag afterwards go into chat feeds for that tag?
I'm thinking the feed in the Charcoal room will automatically pick up this meta question, but I'm not sure.
(Actually I don't know for sure about what happens when the tag is added long after the last other activity on the question, but the feed in Charcoal HQ did pick that one up.)
 
Is blacklisting phrases site specific or network wide?
 
@Natty ne
@Kulfy If SE blacklisted it? I'm not sure.
 
@Kulfy Blacklisting in what context? Are you asking about things for SmokeDetector?
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, body starts with title and ends in url, link at end of body, potentially bad asn for hostname in body, +3 more (395): medicfitonline.store/valley-keto/ by Prelf198 on askubuntu.com
 
3:59 PM
Whoa!! Makyen and rene is here. Good to see you people here.
@Makyen No. I was talking about SE.
 
Welcome! :)
For possible spam posts on Ask Ubuntu, does Smoke Detector use a higher threshold for reporting them here in the Downboat than in Charcoal? I'm asking based on this and some wording in the meta answer.
 
SE's own spam detection. Since We are Charcoal (not Stack Exchange). We make nice things.
@EliahKagan @Makyen Actually I was triggered by this meta post. I mean if SE could blacklist a single word and won't allow posts containing that. If that could be done for specific sites or for all sites except some, I think smokey could not buy keto for those sites. But if SE can only blacklist words network wide, I don't think that would be feasible since some sites need keto. For example, Medical Sciences and Physical Fitness
 
4:14 PM
@EliahKagan Yes, some are potentially reported in Charcoal which are not reported here. There are some reasons that are considered "experimental". All of the experimental reasons start with "Potentially". If a post is detected only for experimental reasons, then it is only reported to Charcoal HQ, Charcoal Test, and The Fire Department.
If the post is detected for any non-experimental reason, and it's on Ask Ubuntu, then it is reported in here. I have not yet checked to see how many posts which were reported in CHQ, but not here, but it includes only one post, ever, which was detected and contained the word "keto" (this post, about a year ago; I already had searched for something that could double as checking for that).
 
@Makyen Ah, okay. I think we'd be fine with having some more reports in here even if they're less reliable and especially if they're marked as such (thoughI'd want to see what others think) but, on the other hand, if you think experimental reports don't belong in rooms like the Downboat, I understand.
I'm not specifically suggesting that in connection with "keto" spam, just in general.
 
@EliahKagan We actually don't have the capability to do it at this time. The filter for "experimental" reasons is all-or-nothing. The room either gets all reports for posts detected for only experimental reasons on all SE sites, or it gets none. It would be reasonable, IMO, to change that to also being filtered to just the sites the room has selected, but that's not the way the code's written at the moment. If someone would like to change the code to make it happen, PRs are welcome.
It is something that has been recognized as desirable for other rooms too. We just don't have all that many people who work on the code. I'm getting more into the code, as part of learning Python (yet another language :-) ), but that's not a task I've looked at yet.
 
4:31 PM
Understood--thanks!
 
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Potentially bad ns for domain in answer, potentially bad keyword in answer, blacklisted user (72): What's a command line way to find large files/directories to remove and free up space? by Zezo on askubuntu.com
 
5:16 PM
The OP's edit clarifies that this question is not a duplicate after all (or not of that particular target, anyway).
 
5:35 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching product name in body, +4 more (594): Where to purchase" Quick Keto Boost: Weight misfortune diet, Pills! by user989292 on askubuntu.com
 
Is this question a duplicate of something? Also... why wouldn't * have worked there?
 
@EliahKagan looks like they are getting the path wrong or running the script from the wrong place, but hard to see exactly
 
5:59 PM
This question is liable to garner no-repro votes but it seems like it would be a common confusion and I wonder if we have something it should instead be duped to that covers how to connect and configure the phone.
 
7:38 PM
I posted a CW answer to this question with an accidental relative path in a hashbang but I'm wondering if there's a good dupe target that I didn't find.
@Natty tp
@EliahKagan Like, I think it is very reasonable to close this Kali question. If Ubuntu is the host and it has something to do with that, then an edit could clarify that and reopening it could be considered.
 
 
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