@RakeshJoshi Vedanta Desikan's Satadhushani hasn't been translated into English, but S.M. Srinivasachari wrote a book called "Advaita and Visistadvaita" summarizing the arguments given in the Satadhushani.
@RakeshJoshi Yeah, S.M. Srinivasachari's book is in English. I don't remember if it mentions all the points, but it at least mentions the major ones. In any case, Vedanta Desikan's Satadhushani is partially lost, so we don't have all 100 arguments against Advaita anyway.
@RakeshJoshi No, there are no Mutts having the full text. The rest of the text has been lost for hundreds of years. All available manuscripts have only 66 of the 100 arguments.
when people find some flaw in advaita then @TheDestroyer @Tezz say that we are not able to understand advaita hence making such ignorant statement. then when we quote vedas which says world is created then they say its some different level like vyavaharika or paramarthika . which again is not mentioned by any vedas
if at all world was brahmans dream or world would only exist in vyavaharika level . then certainly our vedas which consist of 10s of thousand of verses would talk about it . its such important topic.
@TheDestroyer No. It is not a bug. It is not sowing coz there are no pending reviews. Swami Vishwananda and Parth Trivedi participated in review after a long time. The number raises again when we VTC the question.
@RakeshJoshi Yeah, I agree, if the world didn't exist that would be a major topic of discussion in the Vedas. By the way, you may be interested in reading the beginning of Ramanujacharya's Sri Bhashya, specifically the Mahasiddhanta section: sacred-texts.com/hin/sbe48/index.htm That is a decisive refutation of Advaita.
@RakeshJoshi Vedanta Desikan actually based his Satadhushani on the Mahasiddhanta section of the Sri Bhashya.
@SreeCharan Can you tell me the relation between Pedda Jeeyar Swami and Chinna Jeeyar Swami?
@KeshavSrinivasan last night i had long debate with them but they kept on saying that sankara has based his world unreal subject on vedic references. and its only that Ramanuja and other scholars have different interpretation.
Taittariya says clearly ... brahman created jagat and entered into it . etc
@KeshavSrinivasan Pedda jeeyar swami is the maternal grand father of Chinna jeeyar swami. But Chinna jeeyar swami didn't know that till he was said by others. Pedda jeeyar swami became a sanyasi even before chinna jeeyar swami was born.
@TheDestroyer ^^^ THere are still 2 reviews pending.
@KeshavSrinivasan Contrary to what I said earlier, HH Chinna jeeyar is not from the lineage of ashtadiggajams. HH peda jeeyar swami was the founder of the math.
@RakeshJoshi Yeah, both Vanamamalai Matham and Ahobilam Matham are hundreds of years old. By the way, Vanamamalai Matham is Thenkalai and Ahobilam Matham is Vadakalai, so I'm Thenkalai by birth, but my beliefs lean more to the Vadakalai side.
@KeshavSrinivasan Pedda Jeeyar swami entered Sanyasa ashrama after order from Ramanujacharya in a dream. Pedda Jeeyar swami took sanyasam from a mutt at Sri Rangam(I am not sure which mutt). For a jeeyar to establish a mutt, permission should be taken and there are some tests to pass.
@SreeCharan yesterday i was arguing with these people that dreams are also not false. lakshmana got the astra to kill indrajeet in his dream., @KeshavSrinivasan we visit different dimensions in dream . sometims unfilfulled desires are seen in dreams .
for a sadhaka dreams hold importance. sometimes guru discusses about dream and their significance and hints related to upasana.
Adi Shankaracharya says that dreams are created by the Jiva, as described in this section of his Brahma Sutra Bhashya:
The statement made above that in the Kâthaka the highest Self is spoken of as the shaper of dreams is untrue; for another scriptural passage ascribes that activity to the ind...
@SreeCharan It says that Pedda Jeeyar Mutt was established by Ramanujacharya in the year 1057 AD and Chinna Jeeyar Mutt was established by Manavala Mamunigal in the year 1503 AD.
@KeshavSrinivasan Sri Sri Sri Tridandi Pedda Sreemannarayan Ramanuja jeeyar swami took monkhood in the presence of thothadri (Vanamalai). THe name for Tirumal pedda jeeyar will be different.
@RakeshJoshi You didn't understand my sentence yesterday. Still you say you understood Advaita. Brahman has no dream in reality. Brahman is pure, blissfull everexisting consciousness. He can't have dreams.
@SreeCharan we tried to figure it out. But we couldn't.
@SreeCharan OK, the reason I'm asking all of this is that the user Yogi is planning to do Samashrayanam with someone called "Tirumala Peria Jeeyar". That would be someone different from the Pedda Jeeyar Swami associated with your Chinna Jeeyar Swami, right?
But the significance is not explained in the answer. I read somewhere that abhishekam with milk >> water. milk>> honey. honey>>ghee. Can't find it now.
@Tezz You can link Sri Rudram 1st Anuvaka with Abhisheka, where Rudra is prayed to cool down. See commentary on Kamakoti site they say Rudra must be pleased or cooled which are nothing but our own bad sins. Simialrly, Shiva Linga must be kept cool which means we are annihilating by our bad karma by keeping it cool.
@Tezz let me check Shiva and Linga Purana. I will mail you text searchable formats. But format is not proper.
@TheDestroyer in the Sri Rudram there is a phrase "Prathamo Daivyo Bhisak" it has two meanings meaning who is "Divine doctor" and another meaning is "Prathamo Daivyo Abhisek" who is given Abhisekam by the Gods...
@SreeCharan Movie shows Lord Vishnu sends his sword Nandaka to listen songs in Telugu Language as many keertans are available in Tamil, Kannada and Sanskrit but none are available in Telugu even though venkateswara stays in Telugu state. I find this as ilogical. Why would Vishnu care about language?
@SreeCharan I will add the other Refrences in @Pandya answer itself , since SB description of sun's Chariot is more detail , i will just improve existing answer 😊👍
yes but advaitins dont believe. now we should also start defending all statements by talking about various sattas like pratibhasika or vyavaharika @SreeCharan :)
There were series of dreams which shown sundara kanda and indicated to dream. But after some days. HE appeared and said "How many times should I tell you? Can't you understand when said once? take this and read." He also said "माता रामो मत्पिता रामचंन्द्र: । स्वामी रामो मत्सखा रामचंद्र: || That's why I added it in my profile info.
@SwiftPushkar But he was in a human form like us. I just know that it was him. :)
Not with bows and arrows.
@RakeshJoshi Not all the dreams are true, not all are false.
@SreeCharan yes he can communicate with us in any form(human ,non-human) ,even he even can give us directions through voice , or he will through his voice can show his presence. No matter which language we speak :)
8 Seven Bay Steeds harnessed to thy car bear thee, O thou farseeing One, God, Sūrya, with the radiant hair. 9 Sūrya hath yoked the pure bright Seven, the daughters of the car; with these, His own dear team, he goeth forth.
आ कृष्णेन् रजसा वर्तमानो निवेशयन्न अमृतं मर्त्यं च । हिरण्ययेन सविता रथेना देवो याति भुवनानि पश्यन ॥
Throughout the dusky firmament advancing, Laying to rest the immortal and the mortal, Borne in his golden chariot he cometh, Savitar, God who looks on every creature.
@SwiftPushkar The Vishvadevas are a set of multiple gods, they're different from Surya.
@TheDestroyer No, there are no age restrictions for initiation into Pancharatra. And unlike Upanayana, there are no caste or gender restrictions for initiation into Pancharatra.
oh ok , thanks i was wondering abt. this description which is similar to chariot of the sun " 2 Seven to the one-wheeled chariot yoke the Courser; bearing seven names the single Courser draws it. Three-naved the wheel is, sound and undecaying, whereon are resting all these worlds of being. 3 The seven who on the seven-wheeled car are mounted have horses, seven in tale, who draw them onward. Seven Sisters utter songs of praise together, in whom the names of the seven Cows are treasured. 4 Who hath beheld him as he sprang to being, seen how the boneless One supports the bony?
@SreeCharan btw you may be already aware that RamaRaksha Stotram (containing Mãta Rãmo Matpita...) was also received by Budhakaushika from Lord Shiva in his dream...
Ram Raksha Stotra (श्रीरामरक्षास्तोत्रम्) is a Sanskrit stotra, hymn of praise, used as a prayer for protection to Lord Rama. This stotra is Written by Budha Kaushika Rishi.
As I discuss in this Question, there is not a lot of information about Budha Kaushika Rishi like his date of birth and wh...
Shwetashwatara Upanishad in 6.22 states:
वेदान्ते परमं गुह्यं पुराकल्पे प्रचोदितम् ।
नाप्रशान्ताय दातव्यं नापुत्रायाशिष्याय वा पुनः ।।
The profound mystery in the Vedanta was taught in the previous cycle. It should not be given to one whose passions have not been subdued, nor to one who ...
@RakeshJoshi ok , but is there any head personality , say for giving orders , or deciding what is right or wrong (not exactly like pope though) but the one whose words are considered as final...
@RakeshJoshi I think win 8 enterprise is good and stable , you can use that also as different flavor with linux -BTW , i dont know much bt.linux , still i am grt.fan of it :) and planning to install that ...
@RakeshJoshi oh ok , The Rig Veda mentions the image of Surya where he is said to sit on a lotus in his chariot of seven golden horses. The chariot is sometimes depicted with only one horse with seven heads surrounded by rays. Aruna, the deity of dawn is his charioteer who is the elder brother of Garuda,
8 Seven Bay Steeds harnessed to thy car bear thee, O thou farseeing One, God, Sūrya, with the radiant hair. 9 Sūrya hath yoked the pure bright Seven, the daughters of the car; with these, His own dear team, he goeth forth.
@RakeshJoshi No they went to Brahma , Devi , Shiva , vishnu also , see Mhishasura Madrdini story, its because Vishnu mainly has to maintain the universe , so obisiousely they ran to him , is it not simple?
@RakeshJoshi Many Vedic gods with changing of names appear in puranas , most puranic stories are taken from vedas. So Everything in Hinduism is based on Vedas , gods , deties , stories etc.etc.
@RakeshJoshi the story present in Puranas is of Indra named Purandara.. while Vedas describe blueprint of all Indras (which were and which shall be)...
@RakeshJoshi But wht difference does that make , people are free to worship whichever god they believe in , we cant force , So whoever wants to pray or worship Brahma can do that.
at the great dissolution everything will be withdrawn . no deities nothing .
if you see rigveda there are more than 100-200 hymms forindra and agni . the very first hymm begins wuith agni suktam . so you can understand the importance ,
@RakeshJoshi I am saying this from respective philosophies of the sects . So its what Shaiva , Vaishnava and Shakta do believe in ..So for each sectparabrahma name is diff. but
rudramagnimayaM vidyAdviShNuH somAtmakaH smR^itaH | agnIShomAtmakaM chaiva jagatsthAvaraja~Ngamam ||2-125-35 Remember that rudra (shiva) has the soul of fire and viShNu has the soul of soma (nectar, moon). All the world including the fixed and movable beings have the combined souls of fire and soma (shiva and viShNu).
@RakeshJoshi No use in mocking Advaita or Advaitins. words "real" and "dream" should be understood properly. You WILL know the world is not real only after realization, till then world is real for you.
Adi Shankaracharya says that dreams are created by the Jiva, as described in this section of his Brahma Sutra Bhashya:
The statement made above that in the Kâthaka the highest Self is spoken of as the shaper of dreams is untrue; for another scriptural passage ascribes that activity to the ind...
I have seen people pouring milk on the Shivling.
What is the significance of this?
Image taken from shivmandirsarthali.com
Ram Raksha Stotra (श्रीरामरक्षास्तोत्रम्) is a Sanskrit stotra, hymn of praise, used as a prayer for protection to Lord Rama. This stotra is Written by Budha Kaushika Rishi.
As I discuss in this Question, there is not a lot of information about Budha Kaushika Rishi like his date of birth and wh...
Shwetashwatara Upanishad in 6.22 states:
वेदान्ते परमं गुह्यं पुराकल्पे प्रचोदितम् ।
नाप्रशान्ताय दातव्यं नापुत्रायाशिष्याय वा पुनः ।।
The profound mystery in the Vedanta was taught in the previous cycle. It should not be given to one whose passions have not been subdued, nor to one who ...
