Puzzles Etc.

humn

22:00

"not 10pm" is your reponse to the probe i haven't tried?

Jonathan Allan

and no one else would have solved one yet

no not 10pm was in ref to "22"

humn

ahahaha right, he barely lived a day

i was going to ask why you didn't list 0:1 and 1:0 originally. they're fantastically simply confounding

did i mention tantalizingly so?

Jonathan Allan

born at 13:40 dies at 22:00 and created a whole field of mathematics (pun intended)

humn

that was the life of solomon grundy

Jonathan Allan

Oh my I totally forgot about that had to look it up

humn

22:03

no response to my 0:1 / 1:0 question? that does equal a response

Jonathan Allan

what was the question??

humn

why didn't you list those originally?

Jonathan Allan

oh

dunno

oh because

humn

but of course

Jonathan Allan

I wanted to give a list in ascending order first

ascending on both L and R

humn

22:05

how functional of you

Jonathan Allan

I could have gone descending on both too I suppose

or flip flop

or sporadic

humn

scientists have discovered a way to convert between those kinds of lists

Jonathan Allan

but I wanted it to appear "normal"

humn

both of 0:1 and 1:0 do fit the patterns in binomial and ternary representations

(oh about appearing "normal," pinocchio also wanted to become human)

Jonathan Allan

don't tell everyone

humn

22:07

(it can happen in fairy tales)

the observation that someone made about the decimal numbers beginning with the same digits as their hex representations

Jonathan Allan

what are your patterns?

humn

turned out to be from the coincidence of 2^something looks like 10^something/3.1orso

binary had a lot of low-probability runs of 0s and 1s

ternary was missing a lot of 2s

the coolest pattern was almost-sierpinksi-triangles in the binary numbers

Jonathan Allan

trippy :)

humn

          1
        1..
       1..1
     1..1..
    1.11.11
   1....111
   1..1..11
  1....1..1
  1...1.111
  1..11..11
  1.11.1.11
  11.11..11

but now that we know you cherry-picked the examples, it has to be another coincidence

Jonathan Allan

wow it is quite

humn

22:12

beautiful! say it

Jonathan Allan

Cantor-esque

humn

yeah, with the sun shining on it

fun to find 2-D patterns even when they don't pan out

an obvious pattern is that all the binary forms have a 1 at the left end... heh hehe

Jonathan Allan

and a zero to the left of that too!!

can't be coincidence

humn

\overline{0}

Jonathan Allan

indeed

humn

22:16

did we ever find out what the odd number out was?

Jonathan Allan

Monday / Tuesday

humn

your answers just kept getting better and better

Jonathan Allan

I'm guessing the teacher has a solutions book

I think it will be the >0.5 answer TBH going by the level

did you see my hidden answer?

humn

no? let's go see

Jonathan Allan

where is the puzzle

odd one out?

humn

22:18

21

A: Find the odd number out (from math book)

Due to the occurrence of $0.4\overline{8}$ rather than $\frac{22}{45}$ I think it could be Because An alternative, quirky one that I kind of like, but definitely not the intended one: Because Or how about Because

not sure what you mean by hidden, looking at the "edit" source

Jonathan Allan

hmm so hidden I can no longer see it

it was in a comment on a now delete post

guess u need 10k rep to seeit?

humn

that's hidden!

oh for the beta site privileges of yore

Jonathan Allan

ok so for your enjoyment....

Leave each aside in turn and then take the {product of numerators / sum of divisors} of simplified form fraction.

leaving aside 0.37 isthe only one that yields an integer

189

humn

now that's as transparent as if in celophane!

Jonathan Allan

:p

I gave all the resulting fractions too

there is another less well hidden answer too

humn

22:24

a complete answer should always be rewarded

(now looking again at edit history, how are you retrieving these?)

Jonathan Allan

in question's comment: I said "@Lawrence or 2 as it's the only digit not used (there is an upside down 6, honest)"

humn

oh yeah! i did laugh but didn't even notice it was from you

Jonathan Allan

(Lawrence suggested 5 as the only digit used only once)

humn

sure glad that this site has enough serious people that some of us can be silly too

without tilting it too far

once someone came up with a parody answer to one of my puzzles so i gave a ludicrous deadpan reply

but they took it seriously and had to explain that they weren't serious

so i had to return the secret handshake

Jonathan Allan

sarcasm lost on the sarcastic? :D

humn

22:29

i don't know just how to take that so i'll fake it

Jonathan Allan

is that for real?

or are you pulling my leg?

humn

just looking for workplace.se

Jonathan Allan

....PSYCHE

humn

dont

edit

hah bet you thought i was going to say "stop" or actually make an edit

Jonathan Allan

This answer is cool except for the fact they list the reciprocal rather than the entry and confuse the OP

0

A: Find the odd number out (from math book)

I'm gonna go with because

humn

22:34

thanks for pointing that out, it's better than i realized

oh, i did see your unanswered comment here, calling that puzzle a "corker"

and then something like we should rethink "math book" puzzles

what did you mean?

i like the puzzle, even if it turns out lame, for all the fun it has brought

Jonathan Allan

well this particular problem from a maths book is quite interesting in a way :)

humn

ah yes, just wanted to double check

poor teacher

Jonathan Allan

obviously we don't want "factorise x^2-2x+2"

humn

yeah, that's a "drill" or an "exercise"

Jonathan Allan

which reminds me has anyone progressed on the time machine?

humn

22:38

this one?

13

Q: The Time Machine works but my friend is gone!

So my friend Fred and I have been developing a time machine. I know it sounds impossible but we think we've hit a breakthrough! Fred has had a successful test run but he didn't tell me where he was going! Right before he left he sent me this weird email with a table full of text and a scanned cop...

Jonathan Allan

yes

nothing since my last

:(

was hoping someone else would do the other half :p

humn

hadn't seen that, gotta love it

and how about those pyramid___ answers, yours and someone elses?

bravi!

9

A: Single solved state for Sudoku Pyraminx

Brute force shows that for the example there are: $8$ solutions if rings are not considered* $0$ solutions if rings are considered* Call the left of the three faces at the top of your net $L$, the middle one $F$, the right one $R$, and the one underneath $D$. In the current configuration...

and:

3

A: Single solved state for Sudoku Pyraminx

Like Jonathan Allan, I wrote a program to search for solved states. I'll present it in Mathematica/Wolfram Language, but I'll also provide a Python script that works the same way. Encoding Here is the pyramidix pyramatrix pyramadix triangular Rubik's cube I started with: The corners are lab...

Jonathan Allan

Easy compared to the Turnstyle solver

humn

link?

Jonathan Allan

4

A: Engel's Enigma Optimals

As you say, you are implementing a type of Douglas Engel's puzzle, an "Enigma". Given the colour set and the fact that you are ignoring the orientation of the triangular wedges ("corners" in twisty puzzle lingo) in your implementation makes it a either a "Turnstile" or "Avenger" (I believe one wi...

humn

22:45

man! i liked that question a lot when i saw it but never checked up on it (first to comment on it, though)

gorgeous!

on some questions/answers 4 votes = 1,000

Jonathan Allan

"on some questions/answers 4 votes = 1,000"??

ohhhh

I get it

on some questions or answers 4 votes is equivalent to 1000 on others

took some parsing as I was reading a fraction

humn

oops, some times a "/" is just an (and/or)and/or(and/or)

(reading some nice long answers at the moment)

Jonathan Allan

xor(and/xor)orxor

//

or nrnrnrnrnrnrnrn / mmmmmmmmmm

humn

(gotta read those answers more carefully later)

maybe there's a constant = [answer length] * votes

Jonathan Allan

although long != good

humn

22:54

coming from someone who can type more than 3 lines in an answer?

Jonathan Allan

short != good too

humn

too much != enough

Jonathan Allan

too much > enough?

humn

always: what you said, never: what i said

Jonathan Allan

although != should be "is not"

humn

22:57

whoa, that was meant technically, came out looking sassy

Jonathan Allan

that's like a liar's paradox

humn

always: too much > enough, never: too much = enough

to " != should be "is not" " --> should not

is too

Jonathan Allan

eeeerrrrrm

humn

so 'is not" != "!=" ?

Jonathan Allan

True

humn

22:59

so just what does "!=" = ?

Jonathan Allan

short is not good, long is not good.

humn

right you are, goldylocks

Jonathan Allan

"not equal" to

juuuuust riiiiiight

humn

lim_x=sumlime^ridiculous (probably an oldie)

Jonathan Allan

hehe

back in a few

humn

23:02

()

Jonathan Allan

23:12

(Y)

humn

(whoops, was just going to say i wound up making breakfast and saw that you're back, i'll @JonathanAllan in a couple more minutes)

Jonathan Allan

breakfast!

humn

@JonathanAllan, yep, breakfast, 6 hours later

here are the ingredients and it's your turn to guess

1. bear hairs

2. other ingredients

Jonathan Allan

nooo

coca koala?

sigh

humn

laughing too hard to eat

whatever it is, it was too hot a minute ago

Jonathan Allan

23:21

Teddy Collins?

humn

piping hot now

but you're guess was getting colder

Jonathan Allan

am I really meant to be guessing something?

humn

guess what i'm trying to remember to ask you while i was in the kitchen

(i'm working on that one)

(even tried going back to the scene of the crime, but don't remember)

arr, a couple of weeks ago i thought i had the fractal logic puzzle set up

and still think so, but haven't really had a chance to put the right kind of time

Jonathan Allan

you need time within time within...

humn

that might be the next timer puzzle, really

timer -> timer -> timer -> .... -> light bulb

there's actually a limit, i'm pretty sure

because the timers have a quantum level

Jonathan Allan

23:28

plus resistance

:p

humn

hahaaaaa that's a great twist!

each timer goes slower based on loss

starting to remind me once again of that neat conversion you clued me into, \gamma (or its aliases)

where continuous converts to discrete

Jonathan Allan

start getting onto phase effects of induction machines

humn

you are? or this is?

Jonathan Allan

no with the timers

humn

right, what's that called, something like slew?

Jonathan Allan

23:31

you have A.C. running them and they have inductance, capacitance, resistance - all of which affects the phase of the A.C. into the next and so on...

could have all sorts of funky goings on

add an amplifier along the way to add power back in

humn

a circuit version of the telephone game

the amplifier will add noise

like editing a .jpg

yeh, think i was thinking about slew rate, where accurate corners become slanted and delayed

Jonathan Allan

if you make enough noise on a phone line it, at some point, sounds like a cold caller

humn

that's poetry

Jonathan Allan

I don't even know how to solve the current one!

humn

in a way a timer is like a 24-state flipflop

but i like your binary representation

i was thinking of making a timer puzzle with a 2-hour day, or some smaller number

Jonathan Allan

23:35

yeah it's 24 0's and 1's in a loop

humn

i almost did go with 30 to include more primes

the hardest part of the timer puzzle might just be getting used to the constraints

because they don't resemble other puzzles exactly

but they are comfortable once familiar

Jonathan Allan

they do eventually simultaneously switch right? Like periods of 13 and 17 resonate with a period of 221?

humn

no we're not talking leather

don't think so in this case because it has the chance for non-relatively-prime periods

really wish the more nifty solution was still in play

it took advantage of 24 = 4x5 +4

with 4 repeated periods of 5 followed by a single "period' of 4

Jonathan Allan

oh so D and N don't need to remain constant?

humn

they are constant

Jonathan Allan

23:41

well they usually are not with the previous set up

humn

but the way C fits in pieces means that it doesn't have to contain a period

Jonathan Allan

in pieces?

humn

B is like a chopper for C

right about the usual setup

Jonathan Allan

except A will let it run

humn

in fact the real start to this came from piggybacking 2 timers to get a pseudorandom pattern

Jonathan Allan

23:42

B wont run during N

humn

A will run C only while C is ON, and quite right about B vs N

even more so about A vs N

Jonathan Allan

oh yes A will let B run if B is ON

too confusing for me right now :p

humn

me too, to beat all i changed letter assignments when writing it up

did you catch recent attempts to get the sanbox chatbots into a feedback loop?

Jonathan Allan

heh creare new images labelling timers C, D, N and day/night A/B... just to really mess with people

a little

humn

hoho, i did something like that in a rebus puzzle

Stroop effect

In psychology, the Stroop effect is a demonstration of interference in the reaction time of a task. When the name of a color (e.g., "blue", "green", or "red") is printed in a color not denoted by the name (e.g., the word "red" printed in blue ink instead of red ink), naming the color of the word takes longer and is more prone to errors than when the color of the ink matches the name of the color. The effect is named after John Ridley Stroop, who first published the effect in English in 1935. The effect had previously been published in Germany in 1929. The original paper has been one of the most...

Jonathan Allan

23:46

!flip!!reverseIt!milkshake{boys to the yard} my, brings}

humn

you know i'm going there to try it

not now after all, the place looks busy

Jonathan Allan

doubt that will do anything

it's just a song by some chick called Kelis

humn

ah, thanks, i was actually going there to stall for time because it wasn't making sense

Jonathan Allan

Kelis - Milkshake (Official Video) HD

►

humn

blocked! for copyright rrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Jonathan Allan

23:50

:o

try vevo?

humn

just found it... let's see

Jonathan Allan

got official vid?

humn

looks like a different one

but it does show someone at a soda fountain

matches the picture above... must see

apparently i can learn from it but will be charged

Jonathan Allan

Well ...My milkshake brings all the boys to the yard; and they're like "Its better than yours", damn right, its better than yours; I could teach you but I'd have to charge.

humn

now the mixer overflowed, my my my

Jonathan Allan

23:54

heh

humn

might be able to get a sandbot to link to that

oh yeah, about assigning letters incorrectly

Jonathan Allan

bit more subtle than "Pat It Up" by Tommy Lee Sparta... wonder if that's blocked

Tommy Lee Sparta - Pat It Up

►

humn

looks like a flip alright

she's spelling out letters

Jonathan Allan

LOL

explicit lyrics

humn

!!flip/subtle

never heard of vevo before

all of a sudden every video i watch is vevo

Jonathan Allan

23:58

so it's not blocked?

humn

only that first link was

this one's like vocabulary review

did i try these two crossword clues on you? from a week or two ago in the paper

Jonathan Allan

"p**** fat till it lean one side 'o yo jean"

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