Yeah, I tried questioning that one, manshu..

But after his responses, just gave up.

It looks like a bad attempt at a rep farm as both accounts were created, yesterday.

at least OP recognized that their question wasn't as foolproof as they had assumed

(As if you need to rep-farm on this site)

He only admitted to one line being iffy. lol

huh...fate is the universal answer to the question.

Cause Gordon kept poking him :P

also, unrelated-I-swear, I see that a certain cr*b*b* is still posting here

?

hah.

sigh

so much for taking one's ball and going home, I guess.

Now, as KK had called me to the stand...Now I would like to give my opinions.

please do, manshu

I doubt he'll get his acct deleted.

I found someone, yesterday named "please delete me" with a profile descriptino of "please delete me"

I suggest calling bad question with the name of "Plastic Bag" and bad answers as "Fate"

man, people are judging answers to that stupid graph puzzle really harshly

And they still exist =D

manshu: 'plastic bag' is for decent-seeming puzzles that turn out to be bad

omg, pixels.quantserve.com takes forever to load

I hate clicking into a puzzle and trying to expand comments, over and over, then realizing that it's not working because the page hasn't finished loading

@Khale_Kitha Are you using my internet?

'fate' should be for really vague puzzles with completely indefensible accepted answers

or maybe just really vague puzzles

@question_asker hmmm....nice suggestion.

I'll add this point in my next book on puzzles.

thanks, I'll make a meta post about it

@question_asker Please enlighten us with that post.

OK, informal poll: do you downvote every answer that isn't the right answer, or only answers that don't seem to put any effort in?

@question_asker the latter one

because, full disclosure, I upvote any answer that seems like an honest attempt at an answer

I rarely waste rep on downvoting an answer unless it's particularly bad or spam

or, at very least, I don't downvote them

I think I've done it twice.

yeah same here

And I think I got the rep back on both of those =D

I don't think I have ever downvoted an answer, I might downvote a bad question though.

Yeah

I very often upvote questions and answers that seem to have used some effort though

I have downvoted some bad answers in last few days,

and got the rep back in most of them

I need to find a way to remember, more often, to upvote questions that I like

but two people have downvoted my answer, which a) was only invalidated after the fact, and b) i m h o totally reasonable

And I think I'm not the only one.

A question with 5 upvotes that has 45 upvotes on the answer is ridiculous, imo

yeah that seemed harsh, it looked disjoint to me until i read the comments

@Khale_Kitha same opinion here

I like that Hugh accepted Wesley's recent answer even though it wasn't what he had in mind, because it fit just as well =D

(To be fair, it was nearly the same)

@GordonAllocman nice new riddle btw

yea

Horn could have been an answer but can't really fit the last clue. :(

Thanks

Yeah, I wanted Atlas, but couldn't make it fit

I often find coming up with a title to be one of the hardest parts of riddle creation

^^^^^ ^^^^ And ^^^^

@GordonAllocman q_a knows this thing really well.

don't you, @question_asker

yeah

see

that's why I've never asked a question - can't come up with a good title

@question_asker post a question here. We won't ask for title.

OK here goes

"What am I thinking of"

Ice cream

DAMMIT

so quick

Admit it. You were thinking of Frogs.

It is both exciting and frustrating when an answer on your question gets a few of the clues correct but then comes to the wrong conclusion >.>

hehe

OK am I losing my mind, or is the guy with the highest rated answer on that graph puzzle talking nonsense?

lol -someone posted correct answer and deleted it

"the values are all multiples of 2.5" well we don't really know that "well I'm alleging it" ok well you can't use an outside allegation to justify your answer, plus I could easily allege something similar about the other values "no you couldn't"

(lmao, I start typing "puzz" into my URL bar and the URL for the plastic bag puzzle is the first thing to autofill)

Yeah that guy's logic is all over the place "You must be experiencing an optical illusion, I definitely see it correctly"

Yeah, that's an odd justification

The new "Red" answer seems viable, if it's true - I didn't check

Is the graph puzzle a lateral thinking?

Red contains all integers from 1-36

No, manshu - so he shouldn't be trying to justify that way, probably

That red answer seems the most plausible

I don't think the deleted answer is actually the right answer

what was it? I can't see deleted answers

that yellow is the one because their last answer is "undefined"

but here's the thing about f'''s answer:

it also makes an assumption about the values

we have no indication of what the values actually are.

oh I can see that answer, but isn't yellows last point 50? looks pretty defined to me

oh weird, I can't see that answer anymore

that's weird, because I was just able to upvote it, unless the site is trolling me

oh shit!

I was totally wrong!

I forget what the deleted answer was, then

I was mixing them up in my head

meh, my interest in that question is pretty low anyways

yeah, I'm having a feeling it's veering into plastic bag territory

@cr0 that was entirely ffao, I only started after the LSB part was done

I've gotta find some way for my puzzles to not get forgotten after a day.

Though I've been wanting to make another in the series, that I have planned, but haven't had time.

Starting from the end, then the beginning, makes it interesting

I never forgot yours!!

lol

that's why I offered bounties on them, and also pestered you until I solved the spy one

not even on active questions now

Ah, I see what you're saying, sry

If I am not getting much action on my questions I try to give small daily hints to point people in the right direction

Yeah, there's not much I can give as a hint on this one without completely giving it away, because the only difficult part has been solved.

Been trying to think of how I can give a hint, in one of the other puzzles in the series.

Yeah, coming up with hints that don't give too much is pretty hard. I usually try somewhat cryptic clues so they have to figure out the clue before they get any benefit

I always liked Hugh's clues (we just figured out hugh's clues...) because they always seemed like they didn't actually tell you anything useful until after the puzzle was solved, at which point they were forehead-smackingly obvious

Hugh's Clues...Hugh's Clues....

hums

now it's stuck in your head too

Hugh just got a letter, Hugh just got a letter, I wonder who its from?

hahahaha

Considering I don't know the original song, I can evade it getting stuck in my head

but it was amusing :P

oh wow. I changed my answer on that stupid graph puzzle and people reversed their downvotes

lol that one made me bitter

...lol

Or it's possible..

That they changed their mind previously, and couldnt' change their vote til it was edited =D

I think the real answer is that he calls in Red, Blue, and Yellow, because they made horrible graphs for data analysis /s

yes

hahahaha

maybe that's the "lateral thinking" answer

I'm having a problem with the spoiler on my puzzle-mobile, it keeps falling off

puzzle-mobile?

How do I create a multi-line spoiler? If I do >! text, linebreak, >! text, the spoiler doesn't work

in any case, I'm curious as to what the actual answer is, since I'm pretty sure this one is missing information

If I take out the linebreak, it puts the spoilers all on one line

you need 2 spaces after each line

>! text [two spaces]

ah

right, what gordon said

thanks for solving that puzzle o mine

its really dumb and not mentioned anywhere

+15 awarded to gordon

It is actually mentioned somewhere

Though I don't remember where, offhand - because I found out about it from the site, not a person

oh, well not anywhere obvious/prominent. I took me a while to figure it out, I can't remember if I did a deep meta search or someone pointed it out

It's possible that I assumed it from this

puzzling.stackexchange.com/editing-help

yeah

that's where I got it

Since the first one mentioned line-break and I tried it in quoteblocks and spoilers, since it was supposed to work unconditionally

oh wow, that would have been useful had I not ctrl-f'ed to spoilers when trying to figure it out

Yeah, I did that first, just now, too

hahaha

Then I ctrl-f'ed to "space" haha

oh boy, OP is now saying "unlikely is not impossible", so at least that rules out that "multiples of 2.5" answer

as with puzzles, knowing the answer always makes it easier to find the how-to

yeah

well my riddle got solved, the answer is still missing the second clue if anyone wants to give it a go puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/32087/…

I've actually never heard of whatever the answer's referring to - huh

Whic is odd.

I only know about it since I took an astronomy class and we had to learn stuff like that

Greek Mythology is one of my interests - but I'm not well-versed.

But I guess this has more to do with the actual star formations

Trying to work from your hint, though

oh yeah I never would've gotten that

but it's cool in any case

that was a fun riddle @Gordon

I keep coming up witht he reason that charfellow and cr0 gave =D

"second shot"... huh

I guess I need to know something of astrology for that to be a clue to me. But I know absolutely nothing at all.

oh, I wonder...for that second clue

all around town is referring to all around the world perhaps?

BestI can find is: "The modern-day festival of Halloween originates from an old Druid rite that coincided with the midnight culmination of the Pleiades cluster. It was believed that the veil dividing the living from the dead is at its thinnest when the Pleaides culminates – reaches its highest point in the sky – at midnight. "

nice worksheet on that drink one, @cr0

My comment about the clue was about my comment not his btw

Yeah, I figured you're referring to "second shot"

@question_asker thanks, hope it helps, as I think there's a math pattern in the sequence that I can't find. Gonna come back to that later

nowadays I just spend my time in here, cheering on good work, making fun of bad puzzles, and offering bounties

My hint was in this comment @Khale_Kitha "Good work, you only missed the second clue, maybe take a nice drive to clear your head for that one. I will accept this once you get that one (also of very little importance, the season depends on where in the world you live)"

lol

morale booster

please, world: no more riddles where the answer is some abstract concept

we are full

(also it sucks that you can't search for anything that's behind a spoiler tag)

But it's Fate that we will get more abstract riddles

I am narrowing my eyes at you @GordonAllocman

oh, he answered his own riddle after less than one full day: puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/32011/…

ah, misread

wow that moose clue was so obscure

oh geez, what was it?

I abandoned it, lol

@GordonAllocman that one really grinds me gears

wait..waht??

So he just made up a connection, and used it as his clue....sigh

"a word" is different than "a word that fits in various forms"

It literally could have been anything. i.e. mittens because I am saddened a the loss of my cat mittens which you guys totally knew about

a plastic Møøse bag

got my left brain hating on my right brain

as the OP said, the Moose was a poorly executed red herring. Or maybe it was so well executed, that it threw everyone off.

what's really weird is that the word changed over the course of the puzzle

And gonna be one of the few answers I downvote

or rather, the way he wrote his answer involved the word changing

yeah

when it could have just been the word "lose" the whole time

We were supposed to guess what inductive reasoning his brain was using.

Mind you - I have mind connections like that, frequently, but I never expect someone else to get them, without explanation.

I think the question was the issue to be honest

True

he easily could have justified each clue with the word "lose"

I mean, as "justified" as you can be with the logic used

....must......not....make....puzzle....that does that!

it wouldn't have been any more or less ridiculous than what he did post

loose lost, lose loss, tomato tomato

I'll make a people puzzle and use 6 degrees of separation to prove all my points

(also, there are puzzles that start with a word and change it over the course - see HM's recent puzzle - but those explain to you that the word is changing)

right

wait isn't cr0's answer correct? why would he bother answering it

sorry, I'm being unnecessarily mean to this guy today

cr0's answer makes at least as much sense as the "official" answer

I'm confused... He says, on cr0's answer, that Moose is not lost - but then uses it on his own answer

Did I misread that?

well

he says that you don't need "outside knowledge"

And it clearly requires outside knowledge, if so.

Because his own answer says it's because of the character in Frasier.

(There was a dog in Frasier?)

which... how would you know what to do with a proper name if you didn't need outside knowledge?

@GordonAllocman my answer stuck with lost, as Eutherpy's did with loose/lose. At least Eutherpy made the jump to add/remove an o to change the word.

@Khale_Kitha I think he just used the Frasier dog example because I did

Moose could've been anyone

well

that is, in fact, a poorly-executed red herring all right

But how to get from moose to lost?

I just happened to make a stretch from Lost to Los Angeles to a famous dog actor who died in that city

@Khale_Kitha by making "lost" become "loss"

Famous Dog Actor was my nickname in high school

That goesn't get from Moose to lost, cr0

My nickname in high school was steve

And had you not used Moose from Frazier, what was the original answer?

the original poster's solution was

Moose is irrelevant

well I mean, clearly someone or something named Moose died

That's about as much of a red herring as me telling you that 43 + 23 + 77 = 120 because 23 is a red herring.

Damn since the site graduated I have to wait for my edits to go through :/ I just hit 1000 too

that was what was in the puzzle

@Khale_Kitha right, exactly

the word is loss, loose, and lost, all at once (which is why it grinds me gears that the question asked for a word

it could have been perfectly fine with "lose" as the word

because you could have put the reasoning into the answer for each one.

but this comes back to my aggravation with people who won't accept an answer that is correct but not """exactly""" correct

hahahaha

haha

@feelinferrety that might be the first puzzle I write here

Reminds me of the restaurant from Sidekicks

given I've never written one, I'm puzzled as for where to begin, so, don't count on a fast turnaround...

that looks like the toaster puzzle

"The Frying Fish"

wow

toaster?

would it be frowned upon to use the word "damning" in a riddle?

Okay, so I was lurking some over the last few days and kept seeing references to some notorious plastic bag puzzle. Pray tell wtf?

I don't see why it should, Matt.

there's a puzzle about toasting three pieces of bread with a toaster that can only do two pieces (or one side or something) at a time

haha

yeah I think "damning" is fine

I think cusses are OK as long as they're not the vulgar ones

or the hate speech ones

2 cents: "damning" is fine. For one, it's a legit verb outside of curses, and for two, American TV allows it.

(I know, I know, some nerd will try to get in my face about 'vulgar', but guess what: everybody knows what I mean by that)

Start here, feelinferrity

@feelinferrety yeah, that's basically my reasoning

American tv also allows a lot of stuff to be said to be honest

Quite frankly, if it's a word I wouldn't mind using in church I don't see why we can't have it on a puzzle..

They still disallow top nudity for females and certain other words.

yeah

But if damning isn't allowed i'd be very surprised

damning is pretty tame

That's why I love HBO, they can show two horses having sex for no reason other than comedic effect

If you'd feel comfortable using it in mixed company without knowing their disposition, it'd pretty much fly here.

I'm just saying: avoid slurs (which, you should be avoiding these in your daily life anyway, you monster), avoid profanity that could be used to describe sexual or bodily functions, otherwise go nuts

@Khale_Kitha now I get the "plastic Moose" comment smh lol

hehehe

ill try to make sure my flying tree sharks don't come with plastic bags - gotta have clean oceans y'all

@Khale_Kitha noooooo. I was following that puzzle for a bit then gave up. THAT'S JUST.........

Flying plastic sharks, with lasers in their foreheads, being tossed at you, from a tree.

OK so

haha, feelinferrity

This is what "too broad" was MADE for.

So I suggested an edit on an answer to my question, it's pending review, but the suggested edits queue is empty

You can't see things that you aren't able to review

oh ok

checks queue

my girlfriend and I, sometime many years ago, started referring to turds on the sidewalk (usually dog turds, but you never really know) as 'plastic bag' because sometimes there would be a plastic bag that had gotten all compressed into a small mass that sort of looked like a turd

so.

that's my other association with plastic bag

nothing in edits for me, either, though, currently

lol

TONS of other review items, though

wow

4 Low quality Posts, 3 Close Votes, 2 First Posts

♫And a Partridge in a pear tree!!!!♪

LOL

haha

On the 5th day of puzzling, my true love gave to me....

FIVE Plaaaastic baaaags.

Now I'm gonna have that stuck in my head ALL day.

I love/hate that song.

lmao "seems self-explanatory" puzzling.stackexchange.com/questions/32012/look-for-the-answer ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

yeah, hated that one

Actually, I was amused by:

Gordon, if I hadn't seen you ask about the edit here and simply saw it in queue, I probably wouldn't have accepted it cuz it totally changed the answer. I had to go to the puzzle and read the comments to realize you were the author and already discussed changing it. Probably good practice to include a note in the edit saying something along those lines.

puzzling.stackexchange.com/review/close/19333

@Khale_Kitha youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

I wasn't sure why it was hard to figure out what they're asking

@Khale_Kitha yeah that one... was kind of borderline offensive to me, and the answer is dumb, but... the question is in the title, for what it's worth

@Matt youtube.com/watch?v=Oa-mHc51SJo

@feelinferrety I will keep that in mind for the future

I haven't bothered trying to decrypt it yet, q_a - about about to, if it wasn't already done

why you do this to me??

hahahaha

oh, yeah, it's answered already

Wait..

which makes the "unclear what you're asking" especially perplexing

You have...what....

"pretty much just meat"

why am I still watching this

Losing the ability to easily change tags.... ><

I actually love that, Matt.

dies

I only recently ran into Veggietales, though I've been familiar with them for years.

That song happens in the intermission of the Little Drummer Boy movie that I let my son watch, a few months ago

Ahh the good old christian vegetable show

All you need to know, Gordon...

Is..

If it doesn't have a tail, it's not a monkey; It's an ape.

I think I posted that in a comment to a puzzle a few weeks ago, come to think of it...

Impressive

@Deusovi and I agree with the comment you made 30s ago (that I was about t make)

... I enjoy some C&H myself, but there are better ways of going about getting the answer. It's like trying to get "South Park" as an answer. It'll get there, but most likely be crude and tasteless along the way. I'd personally recommend deletion, especially as the offensive part is super easy to get to.

yes, same here

(now that I just read it)