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10:19 PM
cant find what they mean anywhere :p
left hand side means lowerLatin; number; upperLatin; signWritingFillModifier; lowerLatin
 
the right side is sign language. F09DA09A is r. The left side is what it is. So we've g32.
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Sorry toddler at the keybaord
 
how do you get "r" and what is g32?
 
f''
correction: first four characters of the fourth line should be at the end of the third line
 
g32 is my toddler pounding keys :)
@f'' To what are you correcting?
 
f''
there should be twelve characters in the third line and four in the fourth line
 
10:32 PM
characters as in hex or characters as in bytes?
 
f''
bytes
 
EFBBBF
F09F94A1 F09DA09A
F09F94A2 F09DA08E
F09F94A0 F09DA095F09DAA9E
F09DA081
F09F94A1 F09DA09A
@f'' like so?
 
f''
yeah
 
sounds like it to me
 
thanks
ah @Deusovi back and well fed...
 
10:34 PM
yep!
 
I dunno about this but @LeppyR64 seems to
 
i've got it
well, i know what's going on
 
so short line is SIGNWRITING HAND-CIRCLE INDEX
 
That last change throws me for a aloop
 
but cant find a ref to the meanings of the signs
 
10:36 PM
I was just going from the unicode to the sing language:lifeprint.com/asl101/fingerspelling/images/abc1280x960.png
 
but why is there no reference for them that says what they actually are :/
by that pic 2nd line is 8
@LeppyR64 said first line is r
 
and last line
 
ah yes thx
r8??r
 
Sutton SignWriting, or simply, SignWriting, is a system of writing sign languages. It is highly featural and visually iconic, both in the shapes of the characters, which are abstract pictures of the hands, face, and body, and in their spatial arrangement on the page, which does not follow a sequential order like the letters that make up written English words. It was developed in 1974 by Valerie Sutton, a dancer who had two years earlier developed DanceWriting. == History == As Sutton was teaching DanceWriting to the Royal Danish Ballet, Lars von der Lieth, who was doing research on sign language...
This is what we're looking at
 
i thought it was r2??r
 
10:39 PM
middle finger
 
definitely r2??r
gotta go feed kids
 
INPUT SYMBOL FOR NUMBERS -- SIGNWRITING HAND-FIST INDEX MIDDLE
 
index and middle fingers make the sign language for 2
 
oh reading wrong my bad
index AND middle
not middle "digit" :p
ok so r2??r
hand-cicle must be O
 
no, D
 
10:42 PM
:o
 
got nothing in there
 
just under the top left square
and that's the symbol for D
 
I dont see any image in there
 
scroll down
second page
 
10:43 PM
just boxes with the codes in
 
nothing else?
 
f''
@Deusovi you can actually see the symbols in that pdf? mine just shows blanks
 
yeah
 
like totally redundant :p
 
10:43 PM
 
f''
wow
 
yeah I see none of that just the numbers at the bottom :p
no wonder I couldn't do anything
 
f''
I was just going by their unicode names
 
@f'' so it is "o"?
 
f''
no, deusovi is right
 
10:45 PM
ok
guess you know sign language then :p
 
there's the full screenshot if you need it
 
Does "Ill Omens" mean "bad signs"?
 
(at least, of the second page, which is all that matters)
 
same for @LeppyR64's post cant see any images... maybe need to add something onto Firefox for it
 
i.e. the sign language isn't very good?
 
10:46 PM
or it could refer to the bad encoding
 
so... r2?dr
 
f''
I had to reupload the image it links to because the first time, I got an address with a J
 
the middle one's a U
 
f''
and I couldn't figure out how to write the J movement
 
heh
we're still not sure about the fill modifier though
Jonathan, any ideas?
 
10:48 PM
no clue
I dont know what a fill modifier is :)
 
f''
look at leppy's link
 
presumably it modifies the previous characters
ooh
fill means that you're facing the back
but... a backwards U is still a U
and a backwards U symbol isn't really anything, is it?
 
f''
there's more than one way to fill
(look at the last page of the unicode pdf)
 
...is it something you can see but we can't?
 
yeah fill modifier 5 whatever that is
 
10:51 PM
 
I googled it but zilch
 
that's all i see
 
f''
no, just pointing out that there's fill modifiers 2 through 6
 
it's like it's completely undocumented
 
f''
well, that should be enough to let you know that it's in a different orientation than U
 
10:53 PM
H!
 
so what was it?
 
it was H
sideways U
 
um h is a sideways u?
:/
 
ooooooo K
um
riiight and that needs a modifier?
 
10:55 PM
because it's sideways
otherwise it would be U
 
why not just sign h?
 
don't know if there IS one
 
it's on the image
we have "lower latin..."
 
then maybe f'' didn't see it
 
annnny way
maybe just part of the puzzle?
 
f''
10:56 PM
I'm pretty sure that's the right way to write H
 
I don't really get it, don't worry :)
 
fill means different orientation
 
f''
(the lower and upper latin things are because there's no way as far as I can tell to sign capital or lowercase letters)
 
the symbol for U turned sideways is the symbol for H
(yeah, there isn't)
 
plus no sleep
 
f''
10:57 PM
(and also lets you know you're on the right track when you convert the characters)
 
as I said don't worry - to me a fill is a thing a drummer does :p
 
it's the literal meaning of fill
 
it is?
 
like, turn an empty box into a colored box
 
10:59 PM
it's a "modifier character" - unicode uses them to change colors of things
like, you can change the skin color of some emoji using them
 
now that makes sense
like a paint fill
 
it's not always color, but color is the most common
yeah
 
f''
👦+🏾=👦🏾
 
not displaying
 
displaying, but no change
 
11:00 PM
same numbers in replacement boxes
 
i think Accolades is referring to SE badges
 
oh I see - + to seperate then show same chrs together should show what it does
 
f''
 
yeah that is a fill - but turning something isn't a fill (a modifier yes)
but does not matter :)
 
in Sutton Sign Language, fills are used to indicate turns
so an empty hand is facing towards you, a filled hand is facing away from you
 
11:02 PM
and closing eyes and stuff from what I read
 
Long one is Research Assistant
 
damn, just got that one :/
 
Bronze is Revival. Just got it last week :)
 
Populist for gold?
 
Yeah, that's gotta be it
I'll work on editing the CW answer, you guys put them together for the key
 
11:07 PM
ARAPANOVECV?
 
yep, looks good to me
except there's a -6
which may be Caesar ciphering?
 
yeah ARAPANOVECV too
6 is also N
 
now we just need the blue key
 
red key had a minus too right?
sorry colours
^^
 
red key had -6
 
11:09 PM
the other one you solved
 
green didn't have any modifiers
blue has +5
 
ah plus
ok
 
(blue is the unsolved one: i.stack.imgur.com/14k9p.png)
 
yeah no clue still
22 letters 21 letters just coincidence
 
i was so disappointed that these weren't cryptics :/
 
11:11 PM
late to the game... what's left unsolved?
 
Alconja!
this one and the meta-ish thing
and it's not cryptic
 
Right part looks like an anagram of "Too Much Spaghetti Turns"
 
ok so obviously blue key first
 
11:12 PM
not cryptic, f'' said
yeah, we got the other two keys already
 
and its not using the letters reversed on left (even though 22 letters) or the begining of the right (even though 21 letters)
and if push comes to shove the final room has a plastic bag in the draw to relieve us of our tortured existence
...so much for sleep :D
...also 22 is multiple words I think (due to a comment earlier)
4 hours ago, by f''
also I didn't separate the words for those letter counts
 
So both the green and red keys were kind of meta-PSE puzzles, does this imply the blue one is too?
 
wouldn't rule it out
 
ooh
 
green = other puzzles, red = badges, blue = users?
 
11:18 PM
the spaghetti thing could be security to the party
 
or tags?
 
SECURITYTOTHEPARTY is only 18 letters though
THESECURITYTOTHEPARTY
remember that craze?
there were at least 30 of them
so the right side is definitely "the security to the party"
now what about the left...
 
oh is that the famous recipe?
 
i've missed something... why is that obvious?
 
the "security to the party" puzzles would be closed immediately now
they were a series of 30-ish puzzles made by various users that all had the same format
 
11:21 PM
elitist puzzles :D
so why spaghetti?
 
you were trying to sneak into a party. you watch one person go up to the door, the guards say a number, they respond with a different number and get in. you watch another person go up to the door, the guards say a number, they respond with a different number and get in. this repeats a couple times
 
anagram?
yes I saw one
 
then your friend goes up and says the wrong number, thinking he has the pattern, and gets killed (usually by elephants for some reason)
the spaghetti was part of the story common to all of them
 
ok
so what puzzles involved an executioner?
 
no idea
oh!
reverse hangman
 
11:23 PM
to rated:
12
Q: The Survivors of Dictionaria

CodeNewbieSTORY: The land of Dictionaria was once a utopia where all words lived together in perfect harmony. Words respected each other and the big words always found a place among their smaller compatriots. The words worked together to weave letters into poetry and literature. But just as every cheery...

 
18
Q: The hangman game backward

AlexSo, @JLee has posted a hangman game (Hangman- No misses left) on SE. I would like to create one too, but let's do it backward - guess what was the question, with only 1 letter missing: fill in an "a" - you wish you have it for your lovely home fill in an "e" - I will have some water and I am fi...

and it has 22 letters!
 
ok :)
bingo
 
ECNCGGM...
...ESRO
ECNCGGMESRO+5 is the blue key
 
f''
recheck the second letter
 
11:26 PM
w
 
ahwm surely?
 
f''
it should be W unless I made a mistake
 
Yes, it is W
 
oh well i can't count
 
19th letter
 
11:27 PM
4th letter of thehangman....
 
(i was doing 17th)
 
you mean the third letter?
16 4 19 13 -> 3rd is 19
or am I that tired?
 
other side
you should get some sleep
 
;p
oh haha wrong sides i see face palm
 
last one!
 
11:29 PM
oh gawd
PB
 
yeah, that never stops being funny
 
put all the pieces except 4 that are identical into the PB
 
i don't think there are four identical pieces?
oh wait, there are
 
yeah there are loads of sets of four
 
top right thing
 
11:30 PM
four half square rectangles of each colour
for example
 
oh, i was interpreting them as square pieces with lines on them
 
only one of each circle number though
shrug
 
f''
you should probably figure out where the keys go...
 
yeah, probably
 
I was guessing we could somehow shuffle all the smaller pieces around to end up with some leftovers?
 
11:32 PM
all the keys have 11 letters
 
and +5 / -6
 
maybe there's a way to dissect the grid into four pieces of the same size (and shape?) so each piece has one of each type?
no, there are only two red blanks and only one green blank
 
15 green squares, 21 red squares, 11, 11, 11, +5 -6. hmm
yeah that's what I thought :)
 
f''
the keys don't interact with the grid
 
yes some pieces left over - keys must go into the arrangement somehow
oh
 
11:34 PM
or not
"APLASTICBAG" has 11 letters
 
nothing interesting on the locked door red/green striped wall
 
hm, i thought vignering APLASTICBAG with the keys would do something
 
so, we've actually got 6 keys (the ones we solved and the matching ones)
 
still not quite sure about the +5 and -6
could be Caesar ciphers, could be something else
 
oh yes "marked squares" not "tiled squares"
 
11:39 PM
but I don't see why we'd need to Caesar cipher one meaningless string of letters to get another meaningless string of letters
 
f''
if you don't know what the modifiers do, try using the key without one first
and remember, it's a key
 
deciphering "aplasticbag" with key "arapanovecv" gives "ayllsguhxyl"
so... probably not
 
into "FOUREQUALPARTS" maybe
 
the keys can't be divided into four equal parts
 
no the plaintext :)
 
f''
11:41 PM
@Deusovi you're on the right track, but that key is missing the modifier
 
cipher text even
ok with APLASTICBAG but with the unmodified key?
 
that's what I just did
 
oh
and with the unmodified blue key for example?
 
f''
oh, my other message was misinterpreted
 
tried cutting off the last six letters, tried Caesaring by 6...
hm?
 
f''
11:43 PM
I meant out of the three keys, one doesn't have a modifier
 
you using dcode?
yeah that's what he did
 
TAKEASFLAGS
green gives that
promising
 
Caesaring by 6 gives GERRYMANDER for red key
 
f''
re " I don't see why we'd need to Caesar cipher one meaningless string of letters": I couldn't get the right letters for the key without doing that
 
11:45 PM
and for blue, ROT THIRTEEN
first we need to divide it up into 4 equal parts somehow
 
we gerrymander it :p
equal how though - we must at least ignore the numbers
 
maybe the numbers just tell us that those squares will occupy four separate districts
 
and then read something off the result as though they are flags - i.e. semaphore
 
yeah
maybe reading as flags first will somehow help?
 
yeah the markings on each square can be read as semaphore
 
11:51 PM
wait...
 
like the bottom left most square is D or 4
 
we'll need to read them off differently depending on which group they belong to
ie read 1 normally, 2 sideways, 3 upside down, 4 other sideways
 
then to it's right is X
 
yeah I know flag semaphore
 
yeah I am reading bottom row of "1"
 
11:52 PM
the lights apparently lit up red though
we need to find the correct division
 
for 2 we must rotate
(at least no numbers are mirrored too)
 
we need to find the division though
 
lets translate it in your ss
 
no
we'll need to read them in different directions
 
whch I closed :/
 
we need to gerrymander in green's favor!
 
indeed
 
currently red is winning all the sections, hence the red lights
don't translate yet - the direction you have to look at them from depends on which group they're in
 
yes I rotated to have "4" the right way up
 
11:56 PM
yeah but you don't know that that one's in 4
we don't have the groups yet
 
otherwise it would have been D
 
we don't have the groups yet. you don't know that that one's in 4
it could be in 3, 2, or 1
 
eh?
dont we want to write out current config?
 
no, we need to gerrymander first
 
then gerrymander
 
11:58 PM
because how we gerrymander changes which direction you look at the letters from
 
well then we need 3 1/4 green in each
 
nah, i think we're supposed to do it in green's favor
so we make three of them tip towards green and one towards red
 

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