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18:00
@JayeshBadwaik o.o no...
@Charlie hmm.
living and learning
@anon oh my...
my eyes, my eyes.
18:06
@anon non-human?
Why do people use URL shortener to refer to pages from the same site when there is a good hyperlink facility?
@JayeshBadwaik good question...
sometimes special characters in the url are a wrench that makes hyperlinks not get formed
@anon haven't had that happen to me.
I hate URL-shorteners for the reason that I cannot easily tell if I am about to be sent to a dodgy site
18:11
@OldJohn I think their main purpose is for Twitter, where url shorteners are nigh indispensable.
@anon agreed
18:28
@robjohn I'm with you there (Hagen's comment) - after all, most questions do not specifically exclude $p$-adic numbers, surreal numbers or hypercomplex numbers, but we (I) don't usually take account of them in answers :)
@JasperLoy he says, "since the problem statement did not specify that the characteristic is $\ne2$, assuming that characteristic is $\ne2$ seems to be invalid". One could also say, "since the problem statement did not specify that the base field is not $\mathbb{R}$, assuming that base field is not $\mathbb{R}$ seems to be invalid"
@OldJohn Indeed, my point :-)
@OldJohn However, I simply took some things from Hagen's and Gerry's comments and augmented my answer.
@robjohn very restrained
@Jay could you help here?
@OldJohn that is why he is "the robjohn" :-)
@Charlie where?
@JayeshBadwaik :)
18:34
@JayeshBadwaik a function defined $x\sin (\frac {1}{x})$ if $x\neq 0$ and 0 if $x=0$.Is this function uniformly continuous in $[0,1)$?
it's continuous,right?
Yes it is continuous.
@JayeshBadwaik if the interval was [0,1] it was immediate
@Charlie so add the point $(1,\sin(1))$
And it should be uniformly continuous too. Since, the function is finite at $1$.
the only reason uniform continuity is not there on a half-open interval will be when the half-open interval leads to unbounded values.
@JayeshBadwaik hmmm
18:38
@JayeshBadwaik or do not converge. for example $x\sin\left(\frac1{x(1-x)}\right)$
That is continuous on $[0,1)$ but not $[0,1]$
but in this case everything works in $f(1)$,right?
@robjohn Yes. Thanks.
@Charlie yes
@robjohn but then the function will not be unformly continuous on the closed interval also, will it be ?
@robjohn hmm.thanks a lot!to you too @Jay
18:41
@JayeshBadwaik no it won't be
@robjohn it would not be even continuous at $1$.
@JayeshBadwaik no it is not continuous at 1
Got it.
but to prove, i would have to give all that arguments?
@Charlie that is half the fun of it.
@JayeshBadwaik ok,ok.think i can do it
18:46
Is there a measure on the code space $\{0,1\}^{\Bbb N}$ which is invariant under precomposition by anything from $G=\mathrm{Sym}(\Bbb N)$? I'm not even sure if the measure induced by surjecting onto $[0,1]$ has this property, but I have the feeling it only does for finite permutations from $G$.
Ack! I noticed 2 new votes on my matrix answer, but no new points. I've capped. I used to think capping was an achievement, but now it seems more of a hindrance.
@robjohn living the high-end life style? :-)
@JayeshBadwaik the undergraduate in my uni made a club!ZFC fanclub.where the students make seminars to students.Very funny!
@JayeshBadwaik It happens so rarely that something clicks and you get runaway points, but then that cap gets in the way. :-(
@robjohn so - no point giving more answers until midnight :)
18:49
@OldJohn Where's the fun in that?
@Charlie Its a really really good thing. :-)
@JayeshBadwaik :D
I tried to start a brownian circle in my college. tried.
@robjohn Yep - the cap is a bit annoying ... if you one cares about rep :)
@JayeshBadwaik why you didn't succeed?
18:50
@JayeshBadwaik but you couldn't ever guarantee getting to the circle from the center?
@Charlie critical mass missing.
@robjohn Have you noticed LVK's downward spiralling rep? - giving loadds of bounties
@JayeshBadwaik ;(
@robjohn Hahaha. Probably.
@OldJohn So you think he is planning on leaving?
@JayeshBadwaik in $\mathbb{R}^2$...
18:52
@robjohn not sure - either that or he doesn't care about rep at all, and wants to be benevolent
@OldJohn could be. I've asked only one question, and I have never given a bounty, but I've also never downvoted.
wow - he is down to 70 now
@robjohn No, the college campus was the domain, kind of an irregular disconnected space.
@JayeshBadwaik i will try to make a seminar about knots...
18:54
@robjohn He gives bounties on other's question. He gave one to me on a fairly simple, but somewhat tedious answer.
@Charlie Hmm. I do not know what they are formally.
knotty seminars
We had an IEEE seminar series, where I gave one on High Performance Computing. It was fun.
megabaud in, megabaud out; and those gigaflops!
Teraflops!! Core i7 has gigaflops now!
19:10
@JayeshBadwaik yeah, but megabaud and gigaflops sound naughtier.
@robjohn :P :P
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@robjohn Haha, he should join Bourbaki!
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@OldJohn I wonder why. Perhaps he is going bonkers.
@robjohn LVK's profile says on a break which is linked to here Seems its not the benevolence factor.
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It seems that Junior has left chat as well.
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19:18
Maybe he went on another Indiana Jones adventure.
@JasperLoy another?
another?
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Jinx!
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Well, sometimes my words don't make sense.
@JasperLoy Hehe, you cannot utter jinx, one of the "jinxers" have to utter it.
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19:19
I hope anon will reveal his/her name soon.
@JayeshBadwaik I went here to look at his past reputation, but since his current reputation is $\lt200$, it doesn't show up.
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Initially, I thought "anon" was an Indian guy.
@robjohn here He started this year, and till now has a net 69 points in his kitty. he is answering questions to though he is giving away bounties.
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I have been fantasizing about every chat user...
Why oh way don't we call the generating functions of the signatures of the sequence of polynomials it generates?
@JasperLoy Erotically?
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19:24
@JonasTeuwen Maybe.
@JayeshBadwaik lots of 500 point bounties from his rep page.
@robjohn yup.
@anon My advisor told me the spaces we considered are Fock spaces. So. If you have a sequence of UMD spaces $U$ you could make the $\text{Fock}[U]$-space.
@JonasTeuwen that is quite something. If you lecture about that spaces in South India, the people would not understand the difference.
Wait. What?
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19:25
@JayeshBadwaik This is the second time you misspelled "quite".
@JayeshBadwaik shhh Aww you ruined it...
What is something about it?
But the cool thing is then that we can make this into a polynomial. That would be Focking the spaces, kinda.
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Haha, what the Fock!
@robjohn Ohh. So you knew what I was talking about?
@JayeshBadwaik I tend not to give a Fock 8-).
What the Fock are Fock spaces?
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19:26
Meet the Fockers!
That would be a nice title for a Q!
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There is a movie with that title.
@JayeshBadwaik I knew the "quiet" was supposed to be "quite"
@robjohn ohhh.
A gentle introduction to focking.
I need more Fock in my paper, then I can title it What the Fock are Fock spaces 8-).
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19:28
@JonasTeuwen Then it will not be published!
@JasperLoy Not so sure about that. We already have homosexual polynomials too.
What is grammatically incorrect about this title (other than that it does not contain Fock yet): A couple of things you never wondered about the Ornstein-Uhlenbeck operator?
@JonasTeuwen and were not afraid to ask...
Is the category of all Fock spaces like the MotherFock?
@robjohn Yes.
My colleague is doing research on a space also called "The Three Headed Monster" 8-).
He has the chance to give it a cool name like: Beating The Three Headed Monster Even When A New Head Pops Up but decides to give it something like On some $F$-spaces. Man...
@JonasTeuwen The Cerberus space?
@robjohn No! 8-). $\beta\mathbb N$.
19:39
@JonasTeuwen but Cerberus is a three-headed monster...
@JonasTeuwen what is $\beta$?
I still quite love the title for a string theory thesis... Making the best out of zero branes and a weak background. 8-).
@robjohn The Cech-Stone compactification.
@robjohn Or... All you never wanted to know about Fock spaces... wait... what the Fock?.
I should stop inventing stupid titles and start writing the content. Perhaps 8-).
@JonasTeuwen content? (not context)
@robjohn Of the paper with that title.
@robjohn Oh... oops!
The empty space has zero branes.
@JonasTeuwen there, fixed
Sneaky! 8-).
Basically it is about Fock spaces and Brownian motion. Or Fokker-Planck.
19:54
The top two answers to this question have together gotten 100 votes
@JonasTeuwen Walk the Fokker-Planck, matey!
@robjohn 8-). Yes.
100 votes. Damn.
@JonasTeuwen Since it has been spread over two days, that means at least 200 points flushed to the cap
Ah. Statistics! 8-).
Do you know geometric measure theory? That studies soap membranes (also: branes). I need to figure out a use for that so I can say that I have zero branes.
@JonasTeuwen actually the guy with 66 votes has to have flushed at least 260
@robjohn Well... still much more than I have gotten in a day ever.
19:58
@JonasTeuwen I have not studied that. minimal surfaces
@JonasTeuwen Ah geometric measure theory - I had a book on that once :)
My highest voted answer has 38 votes, and that took months to accumulate.
(never read it, though)
I have zero branes, Brown*ian* motion Fock spaces and Fokker Planck equations! Damn!
Ian Brown Motion.
In the present paper I have defined non-commutative punishers and mean annihilators... I wonder if the terminology will survive the review 8-).
@JonasTeuwen It sounds like a paper on wrestling WWE Smackdown!
20:01
@robjohn Aha! -I got 46 votes for an easy answer ... but only got 12 votes for an answer that took hours to work out :(
@OldJohn I have answers still with 2 or fewer votes that I worked hours on.
@robjohn voting is somewhat capricious here, isn't it
how does one lose 1 rep?
@robjohn Yeah!
I have a quick question that I don't think it's worth opening a new topic for. Does the dot product between two vectors of norm different from 1 have any geometrical interpretation?
But a mean annihilator is just an operator whose stochastic process it generates (through SDE) has a stationary distribution with mean zero. That's a whole mouth full. Hence! Mean annihilator.
20:06
If one of the vectors is a unit vector, then the geometrical interpretation is the magnitude of the projection.
What if neither of them is of length 1?
@PaulManta Then you rescale them and see what it says about them.
Where is my teddy bear :,(
@MattN. I dunno! Do you know?
Hmm - LVK has gone down by one, but it cannot be by downvoting, as it happened in the last hour, and he has not visited since yesterday ...
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@robjohn Hey there is a guy called Cerberus in ELU chat. He talks the most on SE according to the stats.
20:09
@JonasTeuwen I'm asking if there's any geometrical interpretation when both vectors are not unit vectors.
@JonasTeuwen No. Only up to some probability.
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@MattN. How is school so far?
And I tell you how to rephrase it into something you already know. DUDE.
Never mind school. I want my teddy bear.
@MattN. Oh. How large is that?
20:10
I know how I could get the projection, but taht's not what I'm asking.
@OldJohn Round-off error. HIDE! THE WORLD IS GOING TO COLLAPSE.
@JonasTeuwen I estimate it to be 0.6.
@PaulManta Then go ask it elsewhere, this is a chat. Not your Q&A worksheet.
But I'm planning to make it larger.
@JonasTeuwen ROF :)
20:10
@MattN. That is your estimation about that you know where T is?
@JonasTeuwen This is no test. I'm asking out of curiosity.
Yes.
@MattN. It is in a place with lovely food and golden spoons?
@PaulManta I think the answer is: No, there is no simple geometric interpretation without rescaling
@OldJohn Thanks!
20:12
@JonasTeuwen That I do not know but I estimate the probability of golden spoons to be 0.01 and the probability of good food 0.5
@OldJohn There is one when you rescale and then use the length!
unless it comes out to be zero, of course
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@OldJohn You sent Jonas your copy right?
@JonasTeuwen exactly
@MattN. Oh shit. No golden spoons!
20:12
@JasperLoy yep
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@OldJohn I still have my copy, but the binding is a bit loose.
@JonasTeuwen But I know how he can increase the probability of good food to be approximately $1$.
I really should figure out a way to include knots in my paper.
Maybe I should tell him that.
@MattN. 8-). Then do this. Yes!
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20:13
Anyone who has used both pgf and pstricks here substantially?
@JonasTeuwen What the hell? Are you now copying me too? I got lots of knots in my paper!
@JonasTeuwen have you got strings in there already? if so, just tie them together :P
I need help for my weak spaces.
@OldJohn I do have branes. That is quite close to strings.
@JonasTeuwen But as of now I am hundreds of miles away.
Also strings are very applicable in stupid jokes.
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20:14
@OldJohn It's time for Jonas to tie the knot with his girlfriend. =)
This will have to wait til next week.
@MattN. Holy five cows. When you return you can.
@JonasTeuwen But one week is so long.
@OldJohn My spaces are so weak they have zero branes.
(covering dimension $0$)
@MattN. Yes, but well worth it.
@JonasTeuwen That depends on how many of his homing pigeons are still alive.
20:16
why do poeple do this - it is stupid tagging as both elem-NT and also NT - it makes tagging so much less useful
@JonasTeuwen As long as it's just your spaces...
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@OldJohn I have given up on tags on SE. I think tags should not exist on a dynamic site such as this.
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@jonas You use pgf for your graphics right?
I started retagging some which had both NT and elem-NT - until I got into a short argument with MK about one of his questions - so I just gave up
@JasperLoy Graphics I no use.
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20:19
@OldJohn There are some people who don't like bumping, but just ignore them. Bump all you want. Editing is encouraged! That is actually a SE policy, but try to make the edits count.
@MattN. Yes.
@MattN. The space in my head is empty, hence it has no branes.
@JasperLoy I was just trying to sort out some tagging anomalies - but now cannot be bothered, as I have better things to do with my time
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@jonas I am still trying to choose between pgf and pstricks...
I like pg tips.
... like booking another holiday :)
20:20
@OldJohn Yes! Hiking in Scotland?
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@OldJohn I can tell you that most questions are not tagged properly, and that 10 people will tag a question in 10 different ways. I think tags should be abolished!
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@MattN. Parental Guidance?
@JasperLoy Or make the tags synonyms.
went to Greece a couple of weeks ago - next is Bratislava, then Abu Dhabi ... now thinking of Tunisia in January ... but not Scotland - I did all my hiking in Scotland many years ago :)
@JasperLoy I don't know what it stands for!
20:22
@JasperLoy Bloody holy cow slaughterer with seventeen monkeys on fourteen sticks. Just start using pgf.
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@MattN. Good! I like to hear nonsense!
@OldJohn Tunisia? Isn't this where all the rioting is going on right now?
There is only place for one nonsense producer in this room.
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@JonasTeuwen Or push the button. =)
Also only one Belgian.
20:22
@JasperLoy PG Tips is a brand of tea!
Narh -we went there a couple of weeks after the revolution, and it was fine
@MattN. Perhaps he likes some good old rambling.
@JonasTeuwen Who?
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@MattN. I just drink cheap Lipton tea.
@MattN. I don't know. No branes.
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20:23
Hello @peoplepower. You are full of power.
@JasperLoy I'll have to unfriend you on facebook.
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@MattN. I am not on FB, haha.
@JasperLoy Waiting for my coffee to actually use it :P
@JasperLoy you disappoint me! -I always have at least 12 different teas to choose from
But it's good. Since he left I have no reason to hang out in chat anymore : D
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20:26
OK OK. I just find it weird that you come to chat just for one user.
If you die, do you get quotiented out? Collapsed onto a point.
Glued to the end.
@MattN. talking about tb?
@robjohn Yes.
Became almost everywhere vanishing.
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I wonder what happens at the moment of death. What will one experience?
20:27
@JasperLoy Most likely nothing.
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@MattN. Well, nobody knows for sure of course.
@MattN. Old.
@JonasTeuwen Old?
@JasperLoy Chat is boring. But chat is also the only place where I get used to get to chat to the teddy.
@JonasTeuwen How is your mushroom problem doing?
Is it magic?
20:30
@MattN. About 20% left.
Come to think of which... heads out to read 'magicians activity tab to see if there is anything amusing
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@MattN. But what is so special about the teddy?
@JonasTeuwen Congratulations! That's good news.
Yes, a bit it is. Much less pain now.
@JasperLoy If you have to ask, you will never understand 8-).
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I have a most special user in this chat too, but I shan't name him.
20:31
@JonasTeuwen : )
Excellent.
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@JonasTeuwen OK, I can think of two things only which I shan't mention. =)
I also have a favorite user in this chat!
Somebody, please ask me who it is!
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He is ...
@JasperLoy Nothing, to you. But very special to me.
20:32
@JasperLoy can we try guessing until we get it right?
@JonasTeuwen Who is it?
Yourself?
@MattN. I am glad you ask. It is ME.
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@OldJohn Better not, this is a sensitive issue!
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@JonasTeuwen Bigot!
@JonasTeuwen I had already answered it^
20:33
@JasperLoy no problem
@JasperLoy Who?
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@OldJohn Hehe, someone starred and unstarred that!
@MattN. You responded with a question. An answer does not involve question mark. Bro. I don't do rhetorics.
@JasperLoy it was me - I clicked on the wrong little icon - they are a bit small for my ageing eyesight :)
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20:34
@OldJohn But my favourite user is male, not female. =)
I have no favourites - I love everybody ...
@JasperLoy So is mine (although I would have to verify IRL to be 100% certain)
@JasperLoy And who is it? Will you tell us or just go on and on about it?
... apart from the odd nutcase, a**ehole, ....
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@MattN. Erm, you have not seen any pics of this person?
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@OldJohn Haha, the British prefer arsehole to asshole innit?
20:36
@JasperLoy 'Course I have. But you never know. Need to feel them up to be sure, right?
@JasperLoy Absolutely
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@MattN. Feel them? Hehe. Which part do you want to feel?
@JasperLoy Well, which part do you think?
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@OldJohn Somehow we use asshole here though we use BrE!
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@MattN. The banana!
20:37
@JasperLoy Or let's put it differently: which part would you feel to verify the gender of a suspected male?
can anyone understand this question?
@OldJohn I'm too amused right now to think about something serious.
@OldJohn I believe our friend is hoping for an injective function from some undetermined domain.
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@OldJohn NO
Questions like that might be why LVK seems to be leaving
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20:40
@matt I can close questions now. Yay!!!
@JasperLoy Yahoo! Congratulations!
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@OldJohn Ah, users come and go all the time, not a big deal. I wonder what the fuss was about when Arturo left.
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@MattN. I use Google!
@JasperLoy Oh, no!! over 3K!
@JasperLoy Congratulations!
@OldJohn Yes, he wanted you to creates a unique numbers.
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20:42
@robjohn Yes, it actually happened quite a while ago. I told Matt cos he is always asking for a close reopen action!
@JasperLoy yes - I suspect I will only be herefor a while - it is fun being here still, but a time may come when it isn't
@OldJohn That is an exact duplicate; I have a feeling the OP deleted the previous version.
@JasperLoy Hello! Welcome to the club of closers and reopeners.
@MattN. Yeah! No need branes there!
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@MattN. Btw, why close and reopen? Why not just leave it till it becomes closed?
20:43
@OldJohn What, you don't think we will always be exciting and intriguing?
@robjohn :)
@JasperLoy 'Cause who is going to reopen the falsely closed question?
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@MattN. Ah, you worry too much.
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It's just a question on the fuqin internet!
20:45
@JasperLoy That is why the internet is full of garbage. And this site could become garbage too.
@anon Ah - I am not reputable enough to see that deleted question :(
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@MattN. There are garbage books too, like the Cram101 series.
I actually quite like the sound of not being reputable enough to ....
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So now I have officially shared some secrets with 5 bros here, hehe.
In any case. I will go to bed in a minute. Was good to dump some loss on you.
20:46
@JonasTeuwen I also love the idea of "A unique numbers" :))
@JasperLoy We still don't know your favourite user.
Numbers is just abbreviation for "a set of numbers". Hence the A is correct.
@JonasTeuwen Haha, is this how you used to do English tests at school?
@JonasTeuwen Numbers is also a TV show...
@JonasTeuwen narh - don't buy that
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20:47
My favourite user is *****.
I thought it was "a set of unique numbers" that matched the question the best.
@JasperLoy OK - we know he has 5 characters in his name ...
@MattN. Yes.
@JasperLoy Jonas!
Clark
20:49
or was that Numb3rs?
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@MattN. Er, OK. You got it right.
Cute!
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Hey @charlie!
Ok, see you all later!
@JasperLoy hey !
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20:50
@Charlie Did you have that dream again?
I wonder why some people seem to make the assumption that I seem to have some branes.
@MattN. CU!
@JasperLoy was more a hallucination...and no.hey,stop thinking about these things...
@JasperLoy i thought Anon was indian too...
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@Charlie No, it is short for anonymous.
@JasperLoy :|

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