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It's often useful to quote which part of his work you're relating your inquiry with. It may also be alright to reach out to supervisors or students who are familiar with the topic, risks apply and results vary.
@LucasHenrique Sorry, I had to go, give me a bit
I was a graduate student a decade before email. I generally bugged fellow grad students and faculty where I was. Sending a question by mail to an author was very rare unless faculty encouraged us to do so for a good reason.
I remember reaching out to a person who did a vague research paper in the brink of the 2000s. Never got taken seriously, there was a courteous response from her academic supervisor to refer to her, but no further communication on that thread. So, I spent like a month pecking every word of that paper trying to figure out how to get a result from their concept, retyping it on overleaf hoping the lack of information will be interpolated by some wild imagination that aligns to a succesful result.
01:07
ted: "for good reason" = "is it worth troubling the pony express about this?"
I have had one question for a long time and I have not yet found its explanation/answer anywhere :(. I don't understand how the third isomorphism theorem was applied here in Exercise 7 on page no. 3 here www-users.cse.umn.edu/~felix077/download/sec9.pdf
I can prove that $Z[x]/(2,x^3+1)\simeq Z_2[x]/(x^3+1)$ by defining a homomorphism though, i.e, by showing that the natural map from $Z[x]$ to $Z_2[x]/(x^3+1)$ has kernel $(2,x^3+1)$.
It's the usage of the third isomorphism theorem that I don't understand and it seems quicker than finding an explicit homomorphism.
You keep Ignoring the way I suggested was helpful to understand such questions, so I won’t respond.
Here is the statement of the third isomorphism theorem that I am referring to: proofwiki.org/wiki/Third_Isomorphism_Theorem/Rings as you might know it by different names.
Ted, I might have missed that. I'll look up the comments above.
@TedShifrin I think you meant this, right?
Apr 12 at 17:36, by Ted Shifrin
@Koro Mod out first by $(x,y)$ to get $\Bbb Z$.
If yes, then I understood that. It's easy and intuitive. Keeping in view the Euclid's division, it is to be noted in Z[x,y]/(2,x,y), higher power terms will be 'zero' and infact linear terms involving x and y will also be zero so the ring is isomorphic to $Z_2$.
But my question is on the usage of third isomorphism theorem this time.
01:25
No, it was about $R/(I+J)$.
It’s an intelligent rephrasing of your third iso thm with which you’re obsessed.
I think that you mean $R/(I+J)\simeq (R/I)/((I+J)/I)$
Not how I chose to write it, but equivalent. I think my way is more useful.
sadly, I couldn't locate your comment :(.
Apr 15 at 16:51, by Ted Shifrin
How about just $R/(I+J) \cong \bar R/\bar J$, where bar denotes modding out by $I$?
thanks, that's a nice way to put it using bar.
01:39
Credit to Leslie for his usual sleuthing par excellence.
it also makes an explicit notational distinction between J and J-bar that is maybe suppressed with "(x^3 + 1)" type notation that does not expressly distinguish ideals in different rings
i'm in favor of ted's approach
of course, i also like writing down actual maps. all of the theorems about X simeq Y simeq Z are just shortcut ways of suppressing reference to actual maps in situations that come up so often that it makes sense to do that
@leslietownes oh no!
let's celebrate with jelly beans
Has Munchkin licked them?
no, there's enough for everybody without that kind of barbarity.
01:52
Good.
I understood now finally :). Here's the explanation: I know that $Z[x]/(2)\simeq Z_2[x]$ by the map $\phi(z(x)+(2))=z[x]\pmod 2$ (i.e., the coefficients of z(x) are reduced modulo 2. This same $\phi$ also acts on $(2,x^3+1)/(2)$ and gives $(x^3+1)$.
Still avoiding my conceptual viewpoint.
leslie, re our yesterday's discussion: If $A\simeq B, C\simeq D$ and C,D are ideals of A and B respectively and given that $C\simeq D$ by the restriction of isomorphism between A and B then we have $A/C\simeq B/D$.
@TedShifrin I'm thinking on it and will get back.
Prove it and use it. Do not insist on going back to baby step first principles every time.
yes, I'll do that. Thanks :).
02:03
@Nick sorry, here it's the standard notation for parallel things. either way, $x // y \iff x = \lambda y$
02:31
lucas: after inner producting, isn't it basically the 1D case, i.e. if a differentiable solution f(t) to f'(t) = k f(t) [k nonzero] has a zero somewhere, then it's identically zero. with those hypotheses, the auxiliary function g(t) = f(t) e^{-kt} satisfies g'(t) = 0 identically and so is constant by MVT or whatever. this is solving the ODE, i guess, but not with deep theorems
@LucasHenrique Alright so
Pick a nonzero vector
Does the matrix $A_{ij} = \text{sign}(i - j)$ have a special name?
Er, hold on, variable names
the field in $f$, so pick a point $p$ such that $f(p)\ne0$
Draw a short segment through $p$ perpendicular to $f(p)$
There's an neighborhood of $p$ where the value of $f$ is still approximately $f(p)$, and so if we make the segment fit in that neighborhood, $f$ everywhere on that segment points to the same side of it
Now, let $F_t$ be this dense flow, so that $\frac d{dt}F_t=f(F_t)$
Because $F$ is dense, it passes close to this line segment
Hm, I want to be able to say it passes through the line segment
argh
02:48
removes DogAteMy
I know the geometric picture, I'm just struggling with the formalism
so let's think about the 1d version
Wait, no... I think I might see where the issue is
@LucasHenrique Is there a theorem like, if I have a point with a nonzero vector, there's a neighborhood of it such that there's a homeomorphism from it to a neighborhood of $\Bbb R^n$ where the pushforward of all the vectors are parallel?
TUBULAR FLOW THEOREM
I did not know this theorem, but I saw you mentioned it above, and I Googled it and it's exactly what I want
OK so lol
Regular point. Homeomorph to parallel horizontal flow near origin. Take a circle neighborhood there. All points there flow either forward or backward to hit the y-axis. Homeomorph back. Now all points in a neighborhood of our regular point flow either forward or backward to hit the image of that axis.
@AkivaWeinberger that's precisely my issue
Dense flow $F$ is dense. Say $F_t\in N$
Then $F_{t'}$ is on that line 'cause of what I just said
user76284: i don't know of one.
Now, let $F_s$ be a point in $N$ not on the part of the flow between $t$ and $t'$
Er, that's not quite what I want
03:04
I don't know what the heck you're talking about, sincerely
Can you state the tubular flow theorem to me please
tubular flow was one of mike oldfield's less influential albums
@LucasHenrique I am assuming from context that this is one of the things you talked about in class
Nope. That's the neat part
03:09
We see that like in the half of the course
I really don't think the sphere problem is appropriate
OK then lol if he says "you use the tubular flow theorem to solve this" and then you haven't covered the tubular flow theorem then it is not reasonable for him to give the problem to you
But the tubular flow theorem and JCT seem like exactly the right tools to turn the vague argument precise
I'm assuming the "dense flow" only takes values $t\in[0,\infty)$, by the way
The vague argument is, make a small segment perpendicular to the flow. Density and the tubular flow theorem guarantee that the dense flow passes through the segment twice. That bit of the flow plus that bit of the segment then makes a loop, and JCT says the loop has an inside and an outside. From then on the flow is either trapped inside or outside the loop, and so it can't be dense on the other side of the loop.
Honestly, if you have to write something on the test, write literally that paragraph. All the finicky details are in setting up the tubular flow theorem, and if you didn't learn it you don't have to write it
(If the flow lets time be negative also, I think you can essentially just do this twice)
Also, this works directly on the sphere, no need to project it to the plane
By the way: it's really instructive to think about why this fails on the torus
(basically because the loops on the torus you get don't have disconnected insides and outsides)
@AkivaWeinberger Most geometers call this the flowbox theorem.
Interesting
@TedShifrin I think I understood it now.$R= Z[x], I=(2), J= (2, x^3+1)$ so $I+J=J$. $Z[x]/J= R/(I+J)\simeq \frac {\overline R}{\overline J}=\frac{Z_2[x]}{(x^3+1)}$
03:24
Nah. $J=(x^3+1)$. Make the sum useful.
Any time your ideal is generated by different elements, you can write the sum.
I'm realizing
We can sort of skirt around the issue of the section of the flow we cut out intersecting the segment multiple times
In fact
But (a,b) is not necessarily equal to (a+b). That’s why I thought that I+J=J.
We don't even need the segment
Pick a circular neighborhood, pick a point on the dense flow in the neighborhood, flow long enough to leave the neighborhood, and then keep on flowing until we return to the neighborhood again
Of course not. Learn what the sum of ideals is.
Then the entire neighborhood union that bit of the flow will have a disconnected complement
Erm
Wait no we still need the segment to make the "trapping" argument, I think...
Ah whatever
03:30
@TedShifrin ok. In that case, $ I+J\subset (I,J)$ but the reverse containment may not hold as $2f(x)+ (x^3+1)g(x)$ is not in $I+J$ unless f(x)=g(x). What am I missing?
No no. I think I’m wrong.
$2f(x)\in (2), (x^3+1)g(x)\in J$ so the sum is in I+J.
I+J=(I,J)
Neat geometry fact I learned
Take a triangle, divide it into four by connecting the midpoints
Keeping the middle section on the table, fold up the three surrounding sections until they meet, forming a tetrahedron
Then the projection of the tip of that tetrahedron onto the table is the original triangle's orthocenter
The notation $(I,J)$ really makes no sense.
I should have said $\langle I, J\rangle$.
Still no good.
This is why we write sum. You can’t make an ideal generated by ideals (rather than by elements).
03:46
Right. $(I,J)$ makes no sense. There should be elements inside ()
$I=(2), J=(x^3+1)$. $I+J=(2,x^3+1)$.
There you go!
Now prove this result once and for all and you’re done.
Assuming the result true for now (I'll try proving the result itself shortly), I have one confusion: I get by using the result $Z[x]/(2,x^3+1)=R/(I+J)\simeq \color{blue}{\frac{\overline R}{\overline J}}$. I know that $R/I\simeq Z_2[x]$. How is it obvious from your way from here that the blue colored expression is isomorphic to $Z_2[x]/(x^3+1)$? I ask this because **it is not true in general** that if
$A, B$ are commutative rings with unity and C, D are their ideals respectively such that $A\simeq B, C\simeq D$ then $A/C\simeq B/D$.
Hi! What is even and odd extension of a function?
The result in last line holds if $C\simeq D$ such that the isomorphism is restriction of the isomorphism $A\simeq B$. Was this result assumed to be known?
04:02
wolg: depends on context. sometimes if f is defined on [0,L] even extension would be defining it on [-L,L] by reflecting its graph on [0,L] across the y-axis. odd extension would be defining it on the same interval by reflecting its graph on [0,L] across the y-axis and then reflecting that across the x-axis.
sometimes paired with extending the result to be periodic with period 2L.
I came across a question "If f(x) = ...(piecewise function)..., then find the even and odd extension of f(x)" How to approach this?
Oh!
if you want a piecewise formula for the result, you'd have to unravel the above operations on the graph symbolically. if f is defined on [0,L] the extension defines f(x) for x in [-L, 0) to be either f(-x) [even extension] or -f(-x) [odd extension].
if f(0) isn't 0 it kinda doesn't have an odd extension. maybe you fix this by redefining f to be 0 at 0.
I don’t see the issue, Koro. Abuse of notation, though. You should mod out by $x^3+\bar 1$.
i don’t see any isomorphisms.
@leslietownes Got it! Thanks :)
 
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Q: Prove that $\frac{R/ \ker \phi}{(\ker \phi + J)/ \ker \phi} \cong \frac{S}{\phi(J)}$

Jxt921Let $\phi: R \to S$ be a surjective homomorphism. Prove that $\frac{R/ \ker \phi}{(\ker \phi + J)/ \ker \phi} \cong \frac{S}{\phi(J)}$ for an ideal $J$ of $R.$ Obviously, $S \cong R/ \ker \phi$ (first isomorphism theorem) and $\phi(J)$ is an ideal of $S$, since $\phi$ is surjective ($\forall s \i...

I tried to prove it like this:
By the third isomorphism theorem, $\rm\frac{R/ \ker \phi}{(\ker \phi + J)/ \ker \phi} \cong \rm\frac{R}{\ker\phi+J}$ so the problem now boils down to showing that

$\rm\frac{R}{\ker\phi+J}\cong \rm\frac{S}{\phi(J)}$.

Consider the map $\rm\tau$. $\rm\tau (r+\ker\phi+J):=\phi(r)+\phi(J)$

The map is well defined as $\rm r_1+\ker\phi+J=r_2+\ker\phi+J\iff r_1-r_2\in\ker\phi+J$ and $\rm \phi(r_1)+\phi(J)-(\phi(r_2)+\phi(J))=\phi(r_1-r_2)+\phi(J)$. Suppose that $\rm r_1-r_2=k+j$ for some $\rm k\in \ker \phi, j\in J$. It follows that $\rm\phi(r_1-r_2)+\phi(J)=\phi(
@TedShifrin I think I understand now (but I find it more convenient to mod out by $(2)$).
Geometry question
Inscribe a pentagon in a circle of radius 1
The sidelengths are $\sqrt{1-1/\sqrt5}$, and the diagonals are $\sqrt{1+1/\sqrt5}$
Is there a quicker way of seeing this?
Note: their product is $2/\sqrt5$ and their quotient is $\phi=\frac{1+\sqrt5}2$ (this latter one I'm familiar with)
05:50
@onepotatotwopotato did you resolve your box topology puzzle?
I think you can show that $\{ f | f({1 \over 2}) = 0 \}$ and $\{ f | f({1 \over 2}) \neq 0 \}$ are open.
@Prithubiswasleftmse Did you write to me yesterday?
@copper.hat yea.
Were you responding to one of my ramblings? I do go on sometimes.
@copper.hat yea.
06:19
@TedShifrin I definitely do not stubbornly refuse to understand argument. I made an attempt to understand spivaks proof. I did not understood it, so I decided to do a proof on my own. I failed to make any progress. Then Akiva gave a proof sketch, and so far I think there is some ideas akiva used that I should have tried.
Would I say that it was a waste of time for me to attempt a proof on my own? no, because from my failiure I have learned some new ideas/techniques from akiva I can try out later. It also decreased my fear of being stuck.
Would I avoid Spivaks proof now? no. After I get a proof from akivas idea, I would learn spivaks proof again. Maybe starting again would make spivaks proof click for me.
06:36
@Prithubiswasleftmse Here is another idea: Let $g(x) = f'(x)$ for $x \neq a$ and $g(a)$ be the limit. It is continuous. Pick some $\delta>0$ such that $f$ is defined on $\bar{B}(a,\delta)$. Define $h(x) = \int_{a-\delta}^x g(t) dt+f(a-\delta)$ and show that $h=f$ on this interval. Then $f'=h'=g$.
@copper.hat I think I am not supposed to use integrals.
because it is a chapter about derivatives.
but thanks for sharing.
@Prithubiswasleftmse you could use L'Hopital's rule :).
My next attempt would be to use the mean value theorem to estimate ${f(a+h)-f(a) \over h}$.
That might be the easiest.
Good night folks! Good luck @Prithubiswasleftmse
Good night copper.
Good night @Koro!
06:47
Good night.
@Prithubiswasleftmse you could alternatively also use $(3),(4)$ and $(5)$ here:math.stackexchange.com/questions/4154724/…
07:06
@copper.hat Oh, there was someone who cared about that problem! I'll take a look at it. Thank you in advanced.
 
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08:54
I am wondering this
If X is a continuum, then 2^X is a continuum as well
If X has dimension n, what can we say about the dimension of 2^X ?
@AlessandroCodenotti
Or the space C(X) of subcontinua of X
C(X) is 2-dimensional when X is an arc, simple closed curve or p-adic solenoid
It's of dimension at most 2 when X is pseudoarc
If X is atriodic with first Čech cohomology group having finite rank, then C(X) is at most 2-dimensional
I would help, but I have no clue what any of that means. Sorry!
Don't worry though. In 5 years, I will be able to.
09:40
@Jakobian This is always infinite
More precisely $2^X$ always contains a Hilbert cube
@copper.hat I think $\{ f | f({1 \over 2}) = 0 \}$ is not open.
For $C(X)$ it's complicated and I'm not very familiar with the results, but there is a whole chapter in "Hyperspaces" about this topic
Seems like C(X) can be finite only for 2-dimensional continua and lower
Oh, apparently C(X) can be finite only for 1-dimensional continua
Now it makes sense why there's no literature for anything else than those
10:33
If X is a continuum, then the spaces $F_n(X)$ of non-empty subsets of $X$ of size $\leq n$ are also continua
How about the dimension of those?
We have a continuous map $f_n:X^n\to F_n(X)$ defined by $f_n(x_1, ..., x_n) = \{x_1, ..., x_n\}$
But I think dimension behaves weirdly for images of continuous functions since square is a continuous image of the interval
I'll ask my professor about this
 
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11:57
2 hours ago, by one potato two potato
@copper.hat I think $\{ f | f({1 \over 2}) = 0 \}$ is not open.
It could be open.
If I take decreasing nested open nbds converging to a point as $x\to {1\over 2}$
and at $x ={1\over 2}$ I take the whole interval $I$ as an open nbd of ${1\over 2}$
@Jakobian there are theorems that give bounds but you also need information on the dimension of the fibers
then by continuity $f({1\over 2}) = 0$ so open nbd of $f$..?
@copper.hat This is what you're taking right?
MJD
MJD
12:19
Let f : A → B be a map. It naturally induces an equivalence relation on A, in which a1 ~ a2 if and only if f(a1) = f(a2). (Put another way, the equivalence classes are exactly the sets f^{-1}({ b }) for each b∊B.)
Is there a standard name for this equivalence relation, or for the corresponding quotient of A?
 
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@AkivaWeinberger I have posted my solution here.
 
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@AlessandroCodenotti yup, got it
 
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16:26
@leslietownes what is 1+3?
@robjohn 5-1, of course.
Ha!
Apr 17 at 5:34, by leslie townes
huh. well it seems pretty clear that the polynomials a_j don't have to be the zero polynomials. for example (y^2) y^4 + (-y^4) y^2 = 0, but neither y^2 nor -y^4 is the zero polynomial so that just won't work.
That key does work on his computer unless he has a really weird keyboard
Shift+ faulty.
Note the lack of capitals.
He has the shift 6 there ^ too
and underscore
🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
16:34
He just doesn't like MathJax
He’s ********* lazy.
he can use \\[...\\]
\[x^2+y^2=z^2\]
need to double the backslashes
Clearly preferable to $ for the lazy.
you can also use \\\\(...\\\\)
\\\(e^{-\pi x^2}\\\)
jay
jay
the above relation cant be right can it?
this $\#$ is the push forward operation. $u_t$ and $\tilde{u}_t$ are measures.
16:40
@robjohn why backslash heaven?
@jay Why not? (Assuming $h,t$ constants.)
@TedShifrin He's just being cautious.
jay
jay
shouldnt the two mappings be inverses of eachother i.e shouldnt we have that if $\tilde{u}=T_{\#}u$ and $u=S_{\#}\tilde{u}$ then $S$ and $T$ are inverse of eachother
Oh, I missed the $\sqrt3$ outside parens. You should double-check that.
@TedShifrin what's your favourite theorem?
16:59
Dunno.
jay
jay
whats your least favourite theorem ?
Dunno.
jay
jay
@TedShifrin surely the factor $(2t-1)$ is also wrong if the two maps need to be inverses?
@TedShifrin What's the first theorem that comes to mind and isn't the Cantor-Schroder-Bernstein theorem?
Yeah, so recompute the inverse entirely.
I don’t care about CSB. Stokes’s Thm, of course.
17:08
What's your favourite statement of Stokes'?
Aw come on. Enough.
@TedShifrin Different systems take off backslashes as quotes, and with MathJax and the chat markup, we need that many backslashes to get them through.
@jay second isomorphism theorem.
One Stoke over the Line...
I tried to use third isomorphism theorem here math.stackexchange.com/questions/4431002/…
and I’m getting $Z_2[y]/(y^2)$, which seems wrong.
I wonder what went wrong 🥲
17:13
@jay 1+2+3+4+...=-1/12
Can anyone please let me know what mistake I made in my post? Thanks.
jay
jay
three stokes and your out @robjohn
17:41
I am currently trying to understand quotient spaces, but I have a problem with the following equality: dim (V) = dim (V/U) + dim(U)
Over R I could choose the vector spaces V = span(e1, e2, e3) and U = span(e1), then I think dim(V) = 3, dim(V/U) = 3 and dim(U) = 1. Clearly dim(V/U) = 3 is wrong.
I assumed that V/U contains 3 equivalence classes, one for each base vector of V. Where is my thought process wrong?
Are the equivalence classes wrong? E.g. some vector (a,b,0) cannot really be assigned a proper class.
17:58
Give me a basis for $V/U$.
In particular, what is $e_1 \mod U$?
I assumed {e1, e2, e3} would be the basis for V/U
That makes no sense. Elements of $V$ are not elements of the quotient.
How have you been taught to picture elements of the quotient?
I have not been taught
I self study
I am basically following wikipedia atm
Well, The book is teaching you. Supposedly.
Wiki is not a textbook. Get a real book.
What is the notation for an element of $V/U$?
{\displaystyle [v]:=v+U:=\{v+u\mid u\in U\}},
18:07
OK. So $v+U$ is the affine subspace parallel to $U$ and passing through $v$. What is $e_1+U$ in your case?
e1+U would be U again
Precisely. So it’s equal to $0+U$.
It’s the zero element of $V/U$.
So I’ll ask again: What’s a basis for $V/U$? Careful with notation.
Currently looking at e2+U, e3+U
There you go. Good.
With an inner product on $V$, you should prove that $V/U$ is isomorphic to the orthogonal complement of $U$.
18:26
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Q: Prime ideal $\implies$ maximal in a Boolean ring

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Boolean ring 💍 . :)
My two eq. cl. are now e2+U, e3+U, then to which class belongs then an element like (1,2,3) ?
18:42
You need a linear combination!
Pictures help, too. Remember the parallel translates of $U$.
18:54
Aren't all eq. cl. supposed to partition a set?
Does knowing $\Pr(X\ |\ A)$ and/or $\Pr(X\ |\ B)$ go any distance toward pinning down $\Pr(X\ |\ (A\ \cap\ B))$? Or does the latter help pin down the former two? I have been writing a number of equivalent statements to $\Pr(X\ |\ (A\ \cap\ B))$ using conditional probability formulae, but have been unable to not only solve it given $\Pr(X\ |\ A)$ and $\Pr(X\ |\ B)$, but to even get them to appear in the formula to reduce the degrees of freedom.
Those are your basis elements, @Imago. Remember that $V/U$ is a vector space.
@user10478 Well, if $A$ and $B$ are mutually exclusive ...
Then there would be a singularity.
Singularity?
Conditioning $X$ on an event with probability $0$.
19:02
this is where copper's old instructor who was obsessed with the radon nikodym theorem would like a word.
The formula you're thinking of doesn't apply then. If $A$ has probability $0$, isn't $P(X|A)=P(X)$?
I can ignore that single point where things blow up.
I'm just making the point that the three probabilities you're discussing are pretty much unrelated.
What blows up? I don't see a blow-up.
My point is that when they're mutually exclusive, the probability $P(X|A\cap B)$ tells you absolutely nothing.
@leslie What havoc has munchkin wreaked today?
But not because you're conditioning on an impossible event?
Have you read what I've typed? It seems not.
19:07
ted: refused to get out of bed because she stayed up by herself until at least 9:30pm last night. had to be carried downstairs to breakfast. had to be dressed. demanded jelly beans on pick-up.
Will she call her pal Vlad if you don't bring said jelly beans?
i don't know what's gonna happen. i'm solo parenting again until saturday, so the worst outcome is i just let her do whatever and we don't tell mom.
Sounds like conspiracy to me.
"If $A$ has probability $0$, isn't $P(X|A)=P(X)$?" I assume you are referring to this. Is this actually true? Wikipedia says this conditional probability is undefined. I can see a motivation for defining it if your $A$ is, i.e., the event that a continuous random variable takes a single value, but not so much if your $A$ is the intersection of two mutually exclusive events.
Even in the former case I'm not sure I understand your formula.
For example, the probability that you are taller than $5$ feet given that you are exactly $6$ feet surely isn't the unconditional probability that you are taller than $5$ feet?
19:24
OK. I agree that we don’t condition on something with probability $0$.
It’s not a singularity in the sense you were thinking of dividing by $0$. It’s just undefined.
Hello. Does anyone know where I can know about the hodge diamond of projective curves?
You still conclude though that knowing any one or two of $\Pr(X\ |\ A)$, $\Pr(X\ |\ B)$, and $\Pr(X\ |\ (A\ \cap\ B))$ does not reduce the number of degrees of freedom present in the other(s)?
I don't think it does. You might get some inequalities.
Okay thanks
I should make a network graph that shows what probabilities relate to each other algebraically for all combinations of up to three events and all common operators, to get a sense of which ones are in the same "family" in terms of degrees of freedom.
 
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@onepotatotwopotato Something like that. I think you need to show that for each $f$ there is an open set...
copper i shouted out the radon nikodym theorem earlier. you missed it
ahh, i think it should be taught to pre-schoolers
21:17
Clearly not in the state of Florida. It's too much CRT and emotion.
21:49
@TedShifrin hi
Howdy.
22:10
@TedShifrin pretty good.
how are you doing?
how is life?
 
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@user10478 $P(X|A)=\frac{P(X\cap A)}{P(A)}=\frac00$

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