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he said that to my face.
anyway, it's a piece of advice.
i generally hate algebra stuff but i think i was right to use the tensor product. sometimes it's the shortest route.
yeah I think you were right too
it pains me to say it but algebraists actually know what they're doing.
and sometimes you can steal ideas from them
im skeptical of that claim
00:06
It's a general module construction.
some algebraists know what they're doing.
some algebraists should be stopped. i have a list of their pictures on my wall.
really?
no, not really. i may have been talking s**t.
May.
That's mostly what you do.
may have. i'm leaving open the possibility that every once in a while i say something worthwhile. but broadly speaking, yes, it is mostly what i do.
it is 99.9% of what i do. i can't help it
00:18
supposing that $a+b \mapsto e^{a+b}$ can you write something similar for $a+bi?$ Such as $a+bi \mapsto e^{a+bi}?$
without context you can write whatever you want
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@EdwardEvans still trying to take your advice and complexify $\Bbb R^+$, and all I have is $a+b \mapsto e^{a+b}$
by R^+ you mean the additive group of R?
no the strictly positive reals
I think it's more proper to write $\Bbb R^*_+$
00:28
or $\Bbb R_{>0}$
yes. I can cast it as a group, vector space or field - can't seem to complexify it when it's represented as a vector space
How are you making $\Bbb R_{>0}$ into a field?
you take $(\Bbb R,+)$ to be an Abelian group, push out the field structure via the $\exp$ map
maybe that was confusing
you have this goofy obsession with that object
I should say, take the field structure of $\Bbb R$ and push out the field structure via the $\exp$ map
@leslietownes sorry, it helps me learn about different mathematical structures and relationships between them
00:42
z -> exp(z) is not injective so this won't yield an isomorphism as it it does for z in R
i don't mean to be critical. you're just goofy. it's fine to be goofy.
yeah @user2103480 good point - that's what Andrew D. Hwang was saying too
Andy Hwang is an old friend of mine — Berkeley PhD and verrrry smart.
oh cool
Yes, isomorphic vector spaces have isomorphic complexifications.

If you're asking how to "implement $\mathbf{R}^{+} \otimes \mathbf{C}$" without unwrapping the isomorphism with the usual vector space structure on $\mathbf{R}$, I don't see a way to do this offhand. At first glance it's tempting to think of the complexification as $\mathbf{C}^{\times}$ with complex multiplication as "addition", and exponentiation as "scalar multiplication". The fatal problem is, the complex exponential mapping is not injective (unlike the real exponential mapping), so to make sense of the operations you end
That's what he wrote^
sounds like a goofball to me.
00:52
@EdwardEvans whatever you want
completely without context
@geocalc33 I think this riemann surface is what you're looking for en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…
@user2103480 That reminds me of the spiral cut ham we had for dinner tonight.
it also reminds me of the topology exercises I had for dinner tonight
no, not very nourishing
Don't get indigestion.
long past that point
01:09
@user2103480 thanks, that should be helpful
the Riemann surface link
 
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02:18
@robjohn It would be a great deal if you got an infinite-sheeted spiral ham at the market!
@TedShifrin Getting it into the oven was complex
Maybe you did an isometric transformation first.
My wife and I had an argument about which side should go up, and of course I said it didn't matter.
You're supposed to lose those arguments graciously, @robjohn!
02:31
@TedShifrin well, I figured conjugation was important.
 
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04:49
hey chat
05:07
Hi Lucas
 
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06:07
@TedShifrin
Yo, I feel I made some real progress
I was bout to rush in here asking how to integrate a function
but instead I pulled out my pen and paper
wrote it oout
realised it was similar to one I had done befroe
and totally nailed it!
(I think)
Congrats.
Also, I think i have pretty solid evidence that the AI overlords are well in control of my locality
Went to the supermarket to stock up on surplus Chocolate Holiday Bunnies, to find the supermarket had exactly stocked the right quantity and had no significant excess to be marked down
You've been a bad Christian?
you what?
LOL, the Easter bunny isn't rewarding you.
06:13
oh, yeah, no, I do have a partner who gets easter chocs from her PhD supervisor, but otherwise all chocolate has had to be self purchased in this household ;P
I think It's all the inane questions I am bothering strangers with
Also it sorta serve me right too. She suggested we stock up on chocolate before the weekend and my response was : Nah, they are bound to be overstocked and will have to mark all these things down in a couple of days
little did I know there was a highly calibrated statistical engine in control of stocktake
Your dental health and blood sugar will thank you.
Oh don't worry, I more than make up for it with oversaturated drinks
speaking of which, I think I have a great analogy for how I like my maths
Oversweet?
06:21
That was a joke, my drinks are by no means north american standard saturated :P
kinda yeah,
I never drink any of that crap.
Like, I have always liked the idea of coffee. The smell and the sight of one, but I drink coffee diluted down to the 1:100 with milk and generous helping of sugar
and while I like the idea of maths, for the longest time, it was really only in the form of pop-maths books and youtube videos.
Yucccckkkkk.
Why are the reals constructed using Cauchy sequences? Can we not do it with regular sequences?
Now I'm finding there is something enjoyable about the simple risteretto :P
06:23
Sequences of what, @LiberaVeritas?
Rationals
How will you say what a convergent sequence is?
06:40
Ok I think I get it now. I was trying to go from a Dedekind cut to a sequence of rationals that converges to that cut. I guess if you don't start with something like a cut, you have to use a notion of a sequence that doesn't talk about what it converges to
hey, so I've noticed that $\mathbf{a}\times \mathbf{b} = \gamma(\mathbf{a}\wedge \mathbf{b})$, where $\gamma\colon \bigwedge^2(\mathbb{R}^3) \to \mathbb{R}^3$ gets cyclic basis elements to the next one (i.e. $\mathbb{e}_i\wedge \mathbb{e}_{i+1} \mapsto \mathbb{e}_{i+2}$, indices mod $3$)
is there a easy way to prove that $\mathbf{a}\cdot \left(\mathbf{a}\times \mathbf{b} \right) = 0$ using exterior algebra?
obviously you want to get something like $\mathbf{a}\wedge \mathbf{a} \wedge \mathbf{b} = \mathbf{0}$
@user863565 dude.
@LiberaVeritas Well, you need something to make it be convergent in the first place
Lucas, so how does dot get involved with your isomorphism?
sorry, what isomorphism?
Hint: Hodge star operator.
$\gamma$
never heard of that. gonna google it, brb!
ughhh
lots of definitions to understand this operator
06:55
isomorphism is homorphism with bijectiveness I don't remember properly after car accident
Lucas: $v\wedge\star w = (v\cdot w) e_1\wedge e_2\wedge e_3$
alright, so $(a \cdot (a \times b))e_1\wedge e_2 \wedge e_3 = a \wedge (\star (\gamma(a \wedge b)))$
messy
Your $\gamma$ is the star operator, silly.
I suppose it's an involution?
Up to sign.
07:02
nice.
$a\times b= \star(a\wedge b)$
I just have to prove that $v \wedge \gamma(w) = $ RHS of that identity.
I leave you to the rest.
that's easy tho, since $e_i \cdot v$ just extracts the $i$-th element
so in fact you can think of aplying wedge to wipe out elements that are not mapped to $e_i$ and then extracting the coefficient
right?
 
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08:57
Marcos Valle goes amusingly well with analysis.
09:39
@robjohn I want to buy your stackexchange game account
user435118
10:14
The volume of a container can be found using the formula v = 16x + 4/x where x> 0. Use calculus to figure out the minimum value of V. Can I have some help with that please?
10:30
Maybe
I think i can
So this is a revolution, yeah
or not, actually
but idk, I would start by graphing v
@Xnero
I presume v is a function of x and you just ommited the braces, and what you meant to say was $v(x) = 16x + 4/x$, yeah?
Did you solve your problem already?
@Xnero at minimum value, the derivative of a function vanishes
wait what?
I thought it goes to 0 at turning points?
what shape is the container that can be modeled with the above equation?
@satan29
I'm looking at a graph of the function and am baffled
user435118
10:48
@AndrewMicallef I just managed to solve it, thanks for trying though.
11:23
my professor asked us to prove the Kuratowski Complement-Closure theorem in a problem set
it looks so tedious...
11:42
Praticularly in banks how could people accept money for the purpose of lending?Please explain
I really do not understand the definition of banks from here.
@user863565 Loss
@RajorshiKoyal depends checkmate
Please reply if you wish to for what I have asked..
what can we explain?
it's just a definition
say you got car accident with a Lamborghini owner like me and you need to pay him right now but you are broke so you need to borrow money from bank
can somebody remove all of my comment please 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
12:14
@AndrewMicallef I've been using Python for a few years. Eg, stackoverflow.com/a/33715116/4014959 It's fine for numerical work, but it runs slower than languages like C++ & Fortran which get compiled to machine code. Depending on what you're doing there are libraries like Numpy that can speed up calculations on large arrays of numbers.
If you need more precision than standard 64 bit floats (aka IEEE-754 binary64) then there's the standard decimal module, and if you want more functions than decimal provides, there's the 3rd party lib mpmath.
There are important things you need to know when working with floats that apply to any language. See stackoverflow.com/q/588004/4014959 and en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catastrophic_cancellation
numerical stability is a concept that will never get into my head
it seems that every analytical estimative just fails because numbers will eventually get (chaotically) truncated/rounded
(what the heck, I typed every "will" as "you"...)
Catastrophic cancellation may be an issue with that function you (Andrew) posted earlier that has a subtraction in the denominator. Sometimes you can fix that sort of thing by rearranging the calculation, and checking that a & b aren't too close if you have (a-b) in the denominator. And sometimes you can fix it by simply using numbers with higher precision.
@LucasHenrique Yesterday, I was messing around with calculating cosines of ridiculously large integers that are close to odd multiples of pi/2 . They were behaving as expected until the numbers got around 10^15 or so, then I started getting stupid answers. Fortunately, I was able to fix it by going to higher precision. See my comment here for details: math.stackexchange.com/q/4086857/207316
I guess I should also mention SageMath, which is a gigantic framework of mathematical stuff built on top of Python. And SageMathCell, which lets you run Sage anywhere.
It's very handy to be able to write a Sage / Python script on my phone, and then compress it into a URL that fits into a comment or chat message.
12:45
@AndrewMicallef Ah, I see you've posted in the SO Python room. Andras is a quantum mechanics professor, and he knows a fair bit about using Python for numeric work. He's also worked a fair bit with Matlab and Fortran.
13:05
@user863565 Sorry. I'm busy not using it.
there's a good movie about banks accepting money for the purpose of lending. "it's a wonderful life."
some people see sentimental aspects in its plot but it is mostly about the need for deposit insurance, meaningful capital requirements, and banking regulation generally.
@leslietownes It's a wonderful movie because it's simultaneously shallow and deep, conformist and non-conformist.
the problem with 'it's a wonderful life' is in the alternate timeline, pottersville is supposed to look like this hellhole, but it looks like a whole lot more fun than bedford falls.
it's one of my favorite movies. my wife has never seen it. she resists seeing stuff that is too out there. she thinks that nothing that airs every year on TV can be any good.
It's one of those movies that you really should watch at least once.
the 1940s were an amazing decade for movies, generally. 30s too. now it's just 3 hour long slogs through some superhero universe.
which i assume suck. i don't watch them because nothing that is too out there can be any good.
13:16
I haven't bothered watching many movies in recent years. The Martian was ok.
i still watch horror movies, and horror-adjacent stuff. i haven't seen a good comedy in a while.
the coen brothers' "a serious man" is probably my favorite of the last 20 years.
I haven't owned a TV for years. But I have binges of watching music videos on YouTube once a week or so. I have pretty broad musical tastes, which I guess confuses the YouTube algorithm a bit. ;)
i've never seen a good movie with math in it. the main character in that is a physicist. there is a visual parody thing with a large blackboard.
I haven't seen "a serious man". But I did enjoy "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou".
oh, you should see a serious man. it is a treat. it's very funny, but it's also something more than that. i don't know how to describe it. the main character is just doomed. he is helpless in an indifferent universe. how can i sell a movie better than that
oh brother where art thou is the first movie i enjoyed george clooney in. he is also great in 'burn after reading.'
brad pitt is also amazing in that. he was somehow a great actor the whole time. i missed it.
13:24
@leslietownes Fictional mathematicians are often fairly broken characters, unless the author happens to be a mathematician or scientist, as discussed here: kasmana.people.cofc.edu/MATHFICT/links.php
@leslietownes I'll bear that in mind. I'd like to see more Coen brothers stuff. They seem to know what they're doing.
yeah, that's the problem. there is a lot of romanticization of what is basically mental illness. also romanticization of the 'genius' stereotype. i knew a few people who worked with john nash, during his illness. there was nothing great about any of it. prevented me from enjoying 'a beautiful mind' although it was a well made movie.
sometimes romantic stereotypes prevent people from getting help, or acting in obvious ways that they would act if 'genius' wasn't in the mix.
Yeah. It can be pretty disheartening & depressing when somone goes through a psychotic breakdown, especially when they're brilliant. And especially when you know them well.
We occasionally get some pretty way-out theories posted on the Physics & Astronomy stacks. Sometimes, they're probably just the result of an over-active imagination combined with misinformation and lack of actual scientific knowledge. But sometimes I get a strong feeling that the OP is delusional, and should seek professional help. But what can you do? They're hardly likely to see a psychiatrist or even just a regular doctor on the advice of some random internet person.
On my radio: Kenny Burrell, Chitlins con Carne
13:39
a lot of 'cranks' (loaded term but i'll go with it) are harmless, unless they are focusing on their hobby horse to the exclusion of earning a living, or supporting any people that they are responsible for. which tends not to be the case. they tend to be OK. but sometimes i do wonder.
i did see a few people break down during grad school. the 20s are a time when stuff tends to come up. none of it was pleasant and it probably would have been caught sooner if they were working at home depot or something and not in a math department.
Right. Similarly with musicians & other artists. It's almost expected that you have some kind of idiosyncrasy.
13:57
almost everyone in my current workplace has very obvious demons.
14:21
Hi guys,
I got this question
A letter is selected at random from the letters of the word SLIGO
Find the probability that the letter is
b) L or O
Would I be correct to say its 1/5 + 1/5 = 2/5 ?
Hello, I have a question about using Ito's lemma to solve SDEs: solve $dX_t=X_tW_tdt+dW_t$, $X(0)=X_0$, where $W_t$ is the standard brownian motion. I try to use $exp(\int_0^t W_sds$ as the integrating factor, but I cannot get the $dW_t$ term
if at random means according to a uniform distribution. which it tends to do, without further specification, yes.
that's a town in ireland.
yeah Leslie, you're right Sligo is a county in ireland :)
you should come visit strandhill, very beautiful
i had relatives outside killarney, and in cork, and carrickfergus. all over the place, really.
irish people have too many children.
It's a beautiful country to bring up a family
14:29
my daughter lives in southern california. during the one week of the year that it rains, she asks, "what's happening?!?!?!"
you get rain here on constant, snowflakes today!
the downside of her living here and having her complexion is we need sunscreen all of the time. it gets all over her clothes.
if $X$ is compact, path connected and locally path connected, and $Y$ is a path connected, locally path connected ,hausdorff space, is every map $f : (X,x_0) \rightarrow (Y,y_0)$ such that $f_{\ast} \pi_1(X,x_0) = \mathbb{Z} \subset \pi_1(Y,y_0)$ necessarily homotopic to a map that factors through $S^1$?
where by factor through $S^1$ I mean of the form $X \rightarrow S^1 \rightarrow Y$
I don't understand that hypothesis, what is $\mathbb{Z}\subset\pi_1(Y,y_0)$
I mean the group $f_{\ast} \pi_1(X,x_0)$ is isomorphic to the integers
as a subgroup of $\pi_1(Y,y_0)$
14:43
Call me crazy, but in this question shouldn't $100^x$ be, rather, $10^x$?
I mean, it's painfully obvious... so much so that I'm afraid that I'm misreading something and don't want to make the edit....
log is very commonly base-10, yes. not universally.
sometimes log just means 'the log we use in context.' but base 100 would be a very weird choice, i agree.
take $f$ to be the identity on $S^1\lor S^2$
i've mentioned this before. some of the TAs in my graduate program would go through this whole ritual of "oh, i'm sorry, did you think log meant base 10 log? it's base e log. everybody knows that." they tended to have been educated at private schools where maybe sensitivity to context and perspective was less important than acquiring badges of rites of passage.
base e is the right log, dont @ me
base 10 is only for applied contexts
@leslietownes certainly not universally... but the odds on this person having been raised on "log without a base is implicitly log_100" rather than it just being a typo... I'm just looking for a sanity-check. (I only got 4 hours' sleep last night, so maybe I'm being extra-cautious!)
14:48
well, they accepted an answer that uses 10, so that's probably what they were thinking off
it's objectively insane to use 100 as a base of a logarithm.
anyone can agree on that.
without exception
Oh, and it's too small an edit for low-rep me to make. Anyone with real editing privileges mind striking one of the zeros?
@Thorgott hm, why is that a counterexample?
factoring through $S^1$ would imply that it induces $0$ on all higher homotopy/homology groups
ah okay
that makes sense
14:53
factoring through $S^1$ is a rare phenomenon in this sense, because it kills all higher-dimensional data
what about if we restricted $Y$ to be one dimensional, so that we wouldn't be able to say this
lets say I add the condition that $Y$ is a one-dimensional connected CW complex
15:07
at least if $X$ is a CW complex, then I believe this should be true
essentially since both $Y$ and $S^1$ are $K(G,1)$s
@nitsua60 Fixed
Sorry to bother again, just checking I am doing this right
A school quiz team consists of 3 students. There are 10 students who wish to be on the team. How many different teams can be picked?
would that mean 10 x 9 x 8 = 720 ways?
mm, but the order does not matter.
it feels wrong
so divide that by 3! = 6.
10*9*8 counts choices where order matters.
15:18
you mean divide 720 by 3! ?
unless the order does matter, i guess i'm assuming that.
but if the team is just an unordered group of people, that divided by six.
If the order matters, the question has to make that clear. Eg, it's a debating team.
you can make 10*9*8 ordered selections of three people from a group of ten people. but disregarding order, there will be 3! copies of every selection that you make.
so if it's an unordered group of people, 720 ways / 6
15:20
meaning there are 120 different teams to be picked
yes. this is interesting, you can just google "10 choose 3." i remember when google was not enabled to do that.
haha, never knew you can do that
thank you
And hopefully, you understand why if $n\ge 3$ then $n(n-1)(n-2)$ must be divisible by 3!
wouldn't it be embarrassing if that quotient wasn't an integer?
that would have been odd for sure
15:24
Google Calculator is pretty awesome. It understands a huge number of different units. But sometimes it doesn't get that you're trying to do a calculation, so it just attempts to do a normal search.
what if some of the people are identical twins? i'm thinking of a "parent trap" scenario.
@leslietownes Blaise Pascal would be rather annoyed.
@Thorgott you mean at least if $Y$ is a CW complex? Or you think $X$ should be too
$Y$ a connected, one-dimensional CW complex and $X$ a CW complex
For the question above i did the Combinations Formula
gave 120 as well
thanks guys
15:36
more generally, this should go through if $Y$ is any $K(G,1)$
the special thing in 1d is that all connected, 1d CW complexes are $K(G,1)$s, which is far from true in any higher dimensions
A few months ago, I noticed that Google Calculator uses the wrong value for a light year. I tried to complain about it, but the value's still wrong. :( A light year should use the Julian year of 365.25 days, but instead they use the mean tropical year of ~365.242199 days. Try (1 light year)/(1 light day)
got
(1 light year) / (1 light day) =
365.242199
Definitions — As defined by the International Astronomical Union (IAU), a light-year is the distance that light travels in vacuum in one Julian year (365.25 days) ...
Interesting find
i used to know a guy at google. he would have been responsive to this kind of stuff. he left. a while ago.
A friend of mine work for google at the moment, will message, see what she can do
it's just an advertising company now. they don't care what a light year is.
15:42
worth a try
it couldn't hurt.
@MikeSalaru Thanks! FWIW, I did put an IAU link in my complaint to Google. But maybe I didn't submit it in the right place, or something.
you still got the reference number ?
one time i emailed tumblr about how their API seemed to allow submitting posts from different dates, so you could do like the diary of samuel pepys or something on tumblr, dating everything with the real dates in the 1600s. but in practice they rejected any dates before unix time zero and it really messed a blog up.
someone wrote back and was like "uh, yeah, we'll totally get to this." they never got to this.
Leslie for Tumblr CEO
did they fix that eventually ?
15:46
no, they didn't. i understand they were owned by yahoo, which ran out of money. i get why they didn't fix it. but it would have been a simple fix.
their documentation suggested that something was possible that wasn't possible. i knew when i was writing the email that whoever had been responsible for that implementation had probably been fired years ago.
Date handling in programs can be painful, depending on what your libraries provide. Sometimes, you just have to ignore the standard library, and write your own date handling stuff from scratch, if someone else hasn't already done that.
Lots of systems can't cope with leap seconds correctly, even though the standard C library has provision for them. Google copes with leap seconds by "smearing" them out. developers.google.com/time/smear
if anyone's wondering why the diary of samuel pepys isn't on tumblr, this is why, and i'm sorry.
dates are hard, i get it.
cal 9 1752.
I guess the most famous example of date handling ineptitude is the Excel leap year bug: it considers the year 1900 to be a leap year because Lotus 1,2,3 had that bug, and when Excel was originally developed they decided to preserve the bug for compatibility reasons.
@PM2Ring tips hat
16:01
For more info about timekeeping than any sane person should ever need or want, see this excellent page by Lick Observatory astronomer, Dave Allen: ucolick.org/~sla/leapsecs in particular, A brief history of time scales.
this is exactly the kind of stuff i like to see on the internet. it reminds me of when everything was simpler. the 90s. it was just pages like that and not corporate crap and troll farms.
i'm loving the HTML 1.0. or whatever. feels like home.
@leslietownes I used to frequent a (now defunct) science forum, where each day one of the top contributors would post a Samuel Pepys diary entry for that day. I don't think he managed to post the whole thing, though.
@leslietownes :) On his home page, he warns that if you send him email that isn't plain text it will be ignored.
it's actually good to edit it out. there's quite a lot in his unedited diary about him masturbating. i don't think that needs to be reproduced. except for scholars, of course.
Hey all,
I am using Math SE Chat for the first time, this is such a cool place!
I plan on self-studying undergrad probability theory from the books (1) Feller (2) Ross (3) Grimmet Stirzaker over the next 7-8 months. The idea is to set weekly goals work on a good mix of problems.

I would like to ask, if anybody out here is interested to co-study, we can divvy up the problems and discuss our solutions/challenges.
Of course.
16:09
i love feller. i have copyright infringing copies of it on my laptop.
i think i even worked out solutions to a lot of the exercises. i had a fantasy of getting a job where i'd use probability theory. didn't pan out.
Hi @TedShifrin
i got too confused by it in the middle of volume 2
i have landed my first job in a quantitative role, so i'd enjoy solving this, and seeing some practical applications
Hi Everyone
Hi @leslietownes
some of the earlier stuff has been surprisingly useful in my professional life. the poisson distribution keeps coming up.
16:11
@leslietownes, i had something similar, except now I got a much more economical indian edition.
but, it's so awesome that i find the exposition still relevant, and super-accessible
it's a wonderfully written book.
hello karim, wherever you are. it is early morning where i am, so good morning.
it is morning as well here
i had some other good probability books. bruno de fanetti. somewhere above our garage i have all of this finitely additive, not countably additive probability theory. some of the books are autographed, although not to me.
probability is the one subject I never explored
I should explore it
one time in a final exam in measure theory in graduate school i proved a finitely additive version of the theorem and then took a limit. my professor told me it was an insane way to solve the problem. there was a simpler way to do it. i spent way too much exam time on it. he thought it was funny, though.
16:17
@leslietownes, vow!
i'm happy if i can make people laugh.
that is cool
@KarimMansour, as an amateur, i found the connections between probability and casino games real interesting.
@Quasar that is so cool.
I was pretty hooked, when i watched a documentary about Ed Thorpe and MIT's blackjack team :)
16:20
have you read 'how to gamble if you must'? by the guy who taught me linear algebra, lester dubins.
do you have suggest a book?@Quasar
i've worked with one of the people on MIT's blackjack team. she's an attorney now.
eventually everybody becomes an attorney.
Whoa! as if she needs to do that :P
that is cool
I want to do physics and computer science as well
been putting 2 hours into physics per day now.
nobody needs to be an attorney, you just choose it if you decide that you like bothering people.
16:22
She must make so much money haha
i could be helpful, and teach people? or i could just bother them. that's the choice.
@KarimMansour, that's cool!
Yeah I think so as well.
what kind of physics?
@KarimMansour, the book am planning to use for some undergrad probability theory is : (1) Feller (2) Ross & (3) Grimmet, Stirzaker.
16:26
@Astyx I am very interested in Quantum computers and Condensed matter.
I am just starting I enrolled in a course on coursera on Thermodynamics.
@leslietownes, will try to get a soft copy of 'how to gamble if you must'
I will take thermodynamics, Mechanics, E&M, and QM in that order on coursera.
it's a very old but interesting book. it displaced a certain amount of conventional wisdom about some forms of gambling.
lester dubins was erratic as a lecturer but his writing was very good.
Cool @Quasar I will look at them.
thomas koerner's "naive decision theory" has several good chapters on horse racing and betting on horses in general.
there's math in it but basically you go up to a guy in a plaid coat and learn "inside information" from him and act on that.
16:29
sports betting is now quite a field in itself, is what i've read
naive decision theory is actually a really good book. if i were in academia i would try to craft some way of teaching out of it.
naive decision making.
i don't know if it's (naive decision) making or naive (decision making). you be the judge of that.
hahaha
it has a section called "how to gamble if you must." everything is connected. there is some analysis of horse racing and card games. there is less roulette than you might expect.
okay, have a question lurking in my mind...
since I haven't every attend mathematics classes at an undergrad level.
are there any good video playlists on probability theory?
i can imagine, nobody puts out the good stuff for free
but still, if you guys know of anything, it's always super-helpful
you may be right about that. there is some surprisingly good stuff on youtube, but it tends to depend on the people who are making it. and a whole lot of trash.
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ever attended
probability theory is also very easy to present "well" without giving any indication of what the subject is about. my wife has an MS in statistics and half of her professors were reading from some script and running code written by their advisors. it was not flattering to them but they made the experience seem easy.
haha
I'm taking help from some office colleagues.
one of my seniors did her PhD dessertation on Levy processes.
I asked for some monthly catchups to discuss important results.
there's a constant struggle in instruction. you always want to make things simple. but sometimes the simplest explanation requires a lot on the part of the reader to read the actual words of the explanation, and maybe a more complicated explanation requires less. i'm cynical about all of this.
i only taught for about 8 years, but i felt like i was constantly fighting against, the impulse to just sell a product to students, as opposed to actually having them engage with it. i don't think professional incentives in the US incentivize the latter over the former, which is maybe a problem.
but i don't know, i skipped out before it got too real
almost all postdocs in my college education were absolute trash at instruction, and it was clear that this had absolutely never been considered as a criterion of job-worthiness. and as someone potentially interested in academia, i may have internalized that message.
i think it helps to find people who can explain things simply and in multiple ways. they are the best resources.
yeah, true that. I am not being very disciplined for the last few months. But, I am getting better at shuffling things.
I try to wind up my day by 1730 or 1800, go for a run and then study for ~3 hours a day, and a good long study session on the weekend.
engagement is super important i think
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when i was in graduate school i tried to focus 1200 to 1700 on my research and reserve the rest for stuff that was not maybe necessarily connected to a research goal.
this was before i had a kid. now i wake up at 0600 and i just limp through the first half of the day.
well, that's still so amazing
@AndrewMicallef Filing taxes is a moderately complex process in the USA. I am self employed so it adds some more complexity, and my children often need returns too.
i was next to a guy on a plane about a year ago, worked in the entertainment industry. every one of his projects was a separate form. it was like 20 forms!
I couldn't find a soft copy of 'how to gamble if you must', but will try harder.
i'm also trying. pushing the limits of infringement.
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@Quasar, Want an exciting story about Probability theory and betting, read the article done by Bloomberg about Bill Benter: bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-03/…
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Does anyone know an easy way to classify the non-abelian groups of order 8 and 27?
I know the proof for p^3 in general is a little convoluted
Is there an easier approach I can take for these particular cases
I saw the proof in Dummit and Foote's book, but it was pretty hard to understand for the general p^3 case
@Quasar you can always ask me if you have a problem, I may or may not be able to answer something useful. It's good practice for me
@Mike there's a formula on wiki that solves linear equations. If you want a hint: you need to take the stochastic integral of that exponential, and choose the right boundaries of integration in the exponent
@user2103480, I think I solve this. Multiply by $-\exp\int0^tW_sds$ on both sides, but thanks for the hint!
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@leslietownes @AndrewMicallef even my relatively straightforward return has 34 pages, numerous schedules, etc, not including my daughter's return.
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