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If the set of global sections is trivial then not at all, no
 
the restriction maps F(V) -> F(U) being surjective for all U \subset V makes sheaves very special
they are called "flabby". as Mike said, you could have sheaves with no global sections
 
If F(X) = 0 then any s in F(X) is zero so any s|_U where s in F(X) is zero
zero certainly can't generate F(U) if that guy isn't 0
 
Right, fair, thanks
 
in fact demanding F(X) -> F(U) is surjective enforces flabbiness
 
Someone ought to tell you how to think about this in terms of bundles
I don't have time rn for the explanation I'd want to give
 
9:02 PM
No prob
 
Topological examples will be artificial but take the sheaf of holomorphic functions on the Riemann sphere as an example of where Mike's situation happens
 
Basically the "canonical example" is that X is a space, O_X(U) = C(U, R) or perhaps C(U, Z), and F is the sheaf of sections of either a real line bundle or a bundle of Abelian groups
Eg R -> S^1 is a bundle of Abelian groups --- I know how to add fiberwise --- and is a C(U, Z)-module where global sections are trivial
 
I don't think I've seen bundles yet, but that's fine. I wanted to use this fact, but I'll try something else now.
 
@MikeMiller Given a compact Riemannian manifold, can you take lots of points $x_1, \cdots, x_N$, and call the cells the set of points which are closer to $x_i$ than any of the rest of $x_j$'s the $i$-th cell? Seems like geodesic convex polytopes inside $M$
So you can lift it up by exponential map and get an actual polytope, subdivide it a little more, and project
In probability we call them Voronoi tessellations
 
@ShaVuklia I don't know your precise background. I suggest trying to pick up some standard examples of ringed spaces and sheaves --- each "worse-behaving" than before --- as test cases.
@BalarkaSen Yep that's exactly it
 
9:17 PM
Also I'm interested in knowing if the "spaces of triangulations on $D^k$" (I can define this as a simplicial set maybe) is indeed weak homotopy equivalent to a point
 
Isn't it a very clear idea?
 
@MikeMiller Oh that's what Cairns does?
Wow
Yeah sorry I am sold now
 
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A: How can a machine learning problem be reduced as a communication problem?

nbroInformation-theoretic view of Bayesian learning I once heard that the problem of approximating an unknown function can be modeled as a communication problem. How is this possible? Yes, this is indeed possible. More precisely, there is an information-theoretic view of Bayesian learning in neural...

 
Hi @Ted!
 
@MikeMiller Hm, ye, well, since you said it doesn't hold and you kind of convinced me with your example, I'm good. The thing I have to show is that if $\mathcal F$ is a sheaf of $\mathcal O_X$ modules, then the dual $\mathcal F^\vee$ is a sheaf as well. The restriction maps were easy, but I was failing at locality.
The reason I asked about these generators is because I managed to show that if for a morphism $\eta$ between the sheaves $\mathcal F\vert_U$ and $\mathcal O_U$, whenever you have a cover $U_i$ of $U$, that $\eta(U_i)=0$ implies that $\eta(U)=0$, however, now I still want to conclude that if $V\subset U$ open, then $\eta(V)=0$.
That's why I was hoping that $\eta(s)\vert_V$ would generate $\mathcal F(V)$, but that doesn't seem to hold. We were also allowed to use that $\mathcal F$ is locally free of finite rank, but they also told us that might not be necessary for the proof, so we were trying to show it without that assumption. I guess you mentioned you have no time, so feel free not to respond to this I guess (which anyone always is ofc)
 
9:37 PM
@ShaVuklia Hm, just a second. The dual sheaf $F^*$ is the sheaf $U \mapsto \text{Hom}_{O|_U}(F|_U, O|_U)$, where the latter is the $O|_U$-module of sheaf homomorphisms, correct?
 
Howdy @Balarka, @Sha
 
If you have shown that some element in $\text{Hom}_{O|_U}(F|_U, O|_U)$ is zero, then definitionally it's restriction as an element of $\text{Hom}_{O|_V}(F|_V, O|_V)$ is going to be zero, because that's what being a zero homomorphism of sheaves means
I feel like the confusion might be that you're conflating the sheaf homomorphism with it's induced homomorphism of global sections (and this is a confusing point for sure)
@TedShifrin Hi, I was wondering, do you know what the critical points of $\text{dist}^2(x, y) : M \times N \to \Bbb R$ would mean geometrically, if $M, N \subset \Bbb R^n$ are embedded submanifolds? I seem to be getting that if $(x, y)$ is a critical point, and $\ell$ is the secant joining them, $T_x M \subseteq T_y N + \ell^\perp$
 
Shouldn't we have both tangent spaces orthogonal to the secant?
 
Yeah maybe, I feel I am doing something wrong.
 
Yeah, it's infinitesimal Pythagoras.
 
9:44 PM
I am getting that the difference of a vector from $T_x M$ and a vector from $T_y N$ is orthogonal to $\ell$
 
Nah.
Oh wait. Arbitrary vectors?
 
Oh, lol, just put 0 in one of em
Haha, I am an idiot
 
Yup.
 
Thanks a lot :P OK, so this is nice, and what I would expect.
 
Yup!
My first yup was for $0$, not for idiot.
 
9:48 PM
Hahah
Second Yup! was for idiot then
 
No, it was for expect, but you can change it.
 
So the index of the Hessian must count the total number of focal points of either manifolds along the secant $\ell$, intuitively.
The total number of independent directions you can nudge the points $x$ and $y$ so that the secant hits $\ell$ back
 
I'd have to ponder this.
 
Yeah, I'm making a guess, no guarantee it's correct.
 
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Q: Clarifications on definition of an indicator random variable

ClarinetistLet's say I have a probability space $(\Omega, \mathcal{F}, P)$ and a random variable defined on it, say $X$, which is equal to $0$ and $1$ with probabilities $p_0 > 0, p_1 > 0$ respectively, with $p_0 + p_1 = 1$. I have two questions: I know the notation for $X$ would be something like $X: (\Om...

 
9:59 PM
@Clarinetist Why B? It would be a map X : (Omega, F, P) -> ({0, 1}, M) where M = sigma({0}, {1}), correct, which is in fact {{}, {0}, {1}, {0, 1}}, the full power set.
The domain is the probability space X is defined on. If you want to omit the probability function and say it's a map of measure spaces, X : (Omega, F) -> ({0, 1}, M) is fine.
 
@ShaVuklia I just mean it's generally useful as a tool when studying to have examples on hand
 
@BalarkaSen Oh, thanks for that. So basically when we say we're defining a random variable on a probability space, we assume the domain is $(\Omega, \mathcal{F})$ (in this siutation).
 
@ShaVuklia It seems to me there's no real reason to talk about U: if you prove that if eta: F -> G is a sheaf map so that eta|_{U_i} = 0 for a cover U_i of X, then eta = 0, one obtains your result by specifying to F|_U, G|_U, and eta|_U
U just adds to notation unnecessarily
 
Hi @MikeM @Clarinet
 
@Clarinetist Yeah. That is to say, you declare "all possible outcomes of all possible experiments you would do from now on are in F, a subset of the power set of Omega"
 
10:05 PM
Hi @Ted
Thanks @BalarkaSen
 
And X is one of these experiments, whose outcomes are numbers 0, 1, and you read such a thing as the events X^-1(0) and X^-1(1) in F.
 
Right, I got that part, thankfully
 
Cool!
 
and then I also have to keep in mind when I'm talking about $\sigma(\{\{0\}, \{1\})$, my universal set is actually going to be $\{0, 1\}$ as opposed to $\Omega$ like it usually is
 
But when they say eta|_{U_i} = 0 they mean it is zero as a map of sheaves, not that eta: F(U_i) -> F(U_i) is the zero map.
 
10:07 PM
@Clarinetist Right.
 
So if V < X is any open set, you get that eta|_{V cap U_i} = 0 by hypothesis; since V is covered by the V cap U_i by the result you already proved eta|_V = 0.
 
10:27 PM
Hello there, can someone help me?
Well the thing is I had recently posted this euclidean geometry problem. math.stackexchange.com/questions/3916522/…
But it has been closed. Although I had read the guidelines and so on, I made the necessary edits and it has remained closed. As indicated the subject isn't easy for me and given the source from where this problem was obtained and indicated the part which I'm struggling isn't that enough?.
It makes me sad because I think its a good problem, but who knows, maybe I'm mistaken. But I don't want to be left ignored or maybe my problem is discriminated due being too simple?. Can someone help me here?. As I indicated, from the looks of it, seems like a congruency but I don't know which sort of construction can be used in order to fit using euclidean postulates.
If there's a good samaritan help out there I would appreciate to give it a look.
 
10:42 PM
@ChrisSteinbeckBell: If you can't figure out how to draw the picture, I'm not sure why you should even be working on the question. What can you not figure out how to draw?
I have never understood why people find these sorts of problems intriguing. Just seems like random stuff to me, even though I'm good at geometry.
 
I drew it
 
Me too. There are similar triangles, of course, any time you drop a perpendicular to the hypotenuse, but I don't see anything natural here.
 
I mean I could upload it. Should I?
 
Your angle B doesn't look very right :P
 
Oh it's meant to be a right triangle?
Oops :p
 
10:49 PM
Yeah, that's going to be essential, but even with that I don't see it.
You end up with three similar triangles.
 
:)
 
There's no way we're going to get angle measures like they have in the answers unless it's 30º.
Your figure is definitely not to scale, because we don't have $HC = BH + 2AH$. :P
I think there's just going to be lots of fiddling with algebra, actually, using similar triangles and Pythagoras.
Yeah, so, for example, this algebra leads to $BH=2AH$, so that gives a $30^\circ$ angle, as predicted.
Not the right angle, but then it's a matter of more fiddling.
 
That's probably what they want him to work out
 
Yup. It is just algebra, but eventually you get $HM=MC=AB$. ... But it's an idiotic multiple choice question, because by logic the only conceivable answer is $30^\circ$.
I wonder how $37^\circ$ (or $53^\circ$) could show up, trigonometrically speaking.
 
Yeah, it's weird
 
11:04 PM
@ChrisSteinbeckBell: If you don't know it well, start by taking a right triangle and dropping a perpendicular to the hypotenuse. See how you end up with two small triangles each similar to the original right triangle. This is used repeatedly in geometry.
 
Wait really?
I didn't know that
Or I forgot, maybe
 
Hmmm ... And what do you know if you have a cevian to the midpoint of the hypotenuse?
 
Not much
 
if (U,x), (V,y) are two smoothly compatible charts on R (to R), is it true that the derivative of x∘y^-1 is never zero?
 
Yes, by definition of compatible, that derivative is invertible at each point.
@Astyx: So my conclusion is that this "geometry" problem is totally contrived to make the algebra work out. I cannot for a second see why it would be geometrically of interest.
 
11:14 PM
I totally agree. It's an exercise to get familiar with such proofs, but not interesting in itself
 
@Astyx Really? This actually has a wonderful application in elementary mechanics. If you have a (uniform) ladder slipping down a wall, its center of mass travels along a circle.
 
Oh that's true
 
So the cevian is actually half the hypotenuse in all such situations :P
 
Yeah, that's neat
 
@TedShifrin ok I get it. Thank you
 
11:19 PM
"The fact that $M^m$ is compact and of class $C^2$ implies that there exists
a number $\rho>0$ so small that no $(\nu-1)$-sphere of radius $\rho$ tangent
to $M^m$ encloses a point of $M^m$."
Here, $M^m$ is a compact submanifold of $\mathbb{R}^{\nu}$. Why is this true? I guess the point geometrically is that spheres of sufficiently small radius are more curved than the submanifold so that locally at the point of tangency, all other points of the submanifold have higher distance from the radius, but I don't have any actual arguments.
 
Yes, @Thor, you're exactly right. Locally, it's convexity. Globally, you've chosen the radius small enough to keep away far-away points. Did you try a proof by contradiction?
So the point geometrically should be that each point in a tubular neighborhood has a unique closest point on $M$.
Too many "point"s in that sentence.
 
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Punkt.
 
@Huy I'm well aware that space filling curves are not injective (as it's clear by looking at them on compact intervals), but they are a geometrically clear reason for why an injection C->R exists, and the other injection is obvious, so you can conclude
 
I have $f:X\to Y$ a dominant morphism of integral schemes of finite type over a field, I want to prove the dimension of the fiber of the generic point of Y is dim X - dim Y
 
11:28 PM
@Alessandro It's interesting to figure out at how many points the space filling curves must fail to be injective. And can you do it with just 2-to-1 or will there have to be some points that are 3-to-1 or 4-to-1, etc.
 
Am I right thinking this is essentially the going up theorem?
 
You're scheming too much for me now, @Astyx.
 
@TedShifrin 4 to 1 is optimal iirc the thesis you sent me a long time ago
 
Ah, I forgot I sent it to you. I don't know if there are theoretical arguments for these things. I do remember Andy examined particular curves.
 
It's very likely I'm completely misremembering
 
11:33 PM
No, I remember the 4 from his Hilbert or Peano curves.
And I remember understanding it pretty well back then. But now I'm old and have forgotten.
 
I've hit a bit of a wall with a result. I'm trying to show that if a ring $R$ is of strong finite type (for any ideal $I\subseteq R$, there exists a f.g. ideal $B\subseteq I$ and a natural number $n\in\mathbb{N}$ such that $x^n\in B$ for all $x\in I$), then it satisfies the ascending chain condition on radical ideals. So far I've shown that for any chain of ideals $I_i$, then the chain $\sqrt{I_i}$ is the same as the chain $\sqrt{B_i}$.
I think I want to show that the chain of $B_i$ stabilize, because each $B_i$ is finitely generated, but I don't know how (or if) that would work
Also, hello everybody
 
Oh, hello is an afterthought. Hrumph.
 
More so a lapse in judgement of the order conversational statements should be made
 
@TedShifrin I would think it is $2^n:1$ in $\mathbb{R}^n$
And in $\mathbb{R}^n$ the curves can have a Lipschitz exponent of $1/n$.
 
Aha. I would need to relearn what little I knew.
 
11:44 PM
@TedShifrin I started to write up a paper on Hilbert curves in $\mathbb{R}^n$. I need to take that back up.
 
I directed a master's thesis (which is what Alessandro referred to) years ago, but he did only the plane.
I think.
 
Ah, I may have figured it out. I simply have to say that $\bigcup_iI_i$ has a corresponding $B$ that contains $\bigcup_iB_i$ and is finitely generated. Therefore the $B_i$ chain must stabilize. (right?)
 
Yes, I've tried contradiction, but I'm not seeing from what angle I have to tackle this formally. You're saying I should use a tubular neighborhood?
 
You should be able to prove that for small enough $\epsilon>0$, the $\epsilon$-neighborhood of the zero section of the normal bundle embeds in $\Bbb R^\nu$. This will imply your result.
This is a special case of the tubular neighborhood theorem.
(But you can write the map down in Euclidean space very easily. Just take $(x,v) \rightsquigarrow x+v$.)
@robjohn: Are there some abstract considerations for any space-filling map? For Hilbert and Peano one has coordinates to work with, basically.
 
@TedShifrin sort of like a space-filling topology? not that I know of...
 
11:53 PM
@Rithaniel Why must it stabilize?
 
I was curious if there's an a-priori argument for how many to one the mapping has to be, or must we look at specific formulas?
 
@TedShifrin I am thinking of the way the $n$-dimensional Hilbert curve is, but I don't know if that dictates a universal truth.
 
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