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12:00 AM
I originally wanted to ask about the apparent failure of Stokes theorem for the manifold $(a,b)$
after 5 minutes of thinking about it I remembered that in Stokes theorem the manifold needs to be compact
 
Bob
12:26 AM
I am hoping that somebody who is good with Diff Eq can look at my post:
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Q: A second order differential equations with initial conditions solved using Laplace Transforms

BobBelow is a problem I did from the book Differential Equations by K.A. Stroud and Dexter Booth. I got the right answer but I am not sure I did it right especially when I took the inverse Laplace Transform. Therefore, I am hoping that somebody here can check it for me. Thanks, Bob Problem: Solve...

I think I have the right answer but I would like it checked.
 
you could have asked wolframalpha for such a simple question @Bob
 
Bob
I have the right answer but I am not sure that I did it right.
@LeakyNun is the question really that easy? I am thinking for a math major it is going to be second semester of their second year.
 
I learnt it myself in 13th grade
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Bob
well I guess it is a trivial problem then
I am thinking 13th grade is the first year of college
thanks and have a nice day
 
12:55 AM
@Bob looks reasonable
 
In graph theory, a simple path is a path that contains no repeated vertices. But, in a directed graph, the directions of the arrows must be respected, right? That is A -> B <- C is not a path? However, I have an example which states that would also be a simple path
 
@Bob typo in second last line
in fact "$\mathcal L^{-1}(1/(s-2)) = e^{-2x}$" is wrong already
how did you get from the second last line to the last line?
 
1:17 AM
guys, is every compact set non-empty?
nevermind
 
Bob
@LeakyNun I fixed a typo.
 
@Bob you still have $e^{-2x}$ coming out of nowhere
 
 
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4:31 AM
@LeakyNun So, I'm not the only one who walked into that class.
 
 
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7:39 AM
Hello!!

I want to calculate the solution $p\in \mathbb{P}^4$ of the interpolation exercise $$p(0)=2 , \ p'(0)=3, \ p''(0)=1 \\ p(1)=2, \ p'(1)=0$$

For that we have to write a general polynomial of degree 4, $p(x)=ax^4+bx^3+cx^2+dx+e$ and then with the given conditions we have to solve a linear system.

Is that correct or am I supposed to do something else?
 
@MaryStar That seems like a reasonable approach to me. Of course, you already know some coefficients, since $p(x) = p(0) + p'(0) x + \frac{p''(0)}2x^2 + \frac{p'''(0)}{3!} x^3 + \dots$. But you get exactly the same values from the system of linear equations - in three of the equations there is only one non-zero coefficient.
 
Ah ok!! Thanks a lot!! :-) @MartinSleziak
 
 
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10:33 AM
@nbro I believe a path in a directed graph that ignores direction is called a semipath
i.e. a path in the underlying graph of your digraph
 
11:08 AM
It is never too late to give up.
 
11:23 AM
How to calculate $|Stab_{S_7}((1 \ 2 \ 3)(4 \ 5 \ 6))|=\frac{|G|}{|G((123)(456))|}$? I do understand that $|G|=7!$ because it has 7 elements but how to calculate $|G((123)(456))|$?
 
11:46 AM
@ÍgjøgnumMeg Any source that confirms that claim?
 
12:17 PM
Cayley graph of $F_2$ is also a hyperbolic tiling
(Also universal cover of a figure-eight)
Related:
Universal cover of $\Bbb C\setminus\{0,1\}$
(There's also an holomorphic bijection between the disk and the universal cover of $\Bbb C\setminus\{0,1\}$, where the fundamental polygon looks like that. Pretty sure)
 
<- Is looking for a version with uncountably many bands
 
(That last image is the dual tiling of the first image)
(Order-4 apeirogonal tiling versus infinite-order square tiling)
 
12:34 PM
though these are just lecture notes, but it seems like common terminology
 
There's another hyperbolic projection that I'd want to see those in
 
@ÍgjøgnumMeg Where exactly at page 5? Under which section?
 
@nbro section 11.3 "Directed Paths and Connectedness" defines directed walks and calls a walk on the underlying graph a "semiwalk", with the special case of a "semipath"
 
But I meant "simple path", not semipath
Anyway, let me check
 
you talked about a simple path on a graph, and then asked whether $A \rightarrow B \leftarrow C$ would be a simple path in a directed graph
I'm saying this would be a simple semipath
 
12:39 PM
@ÍgjøgnumMeg But in the notes they do not call it "simple"
 
-_-
a semipath is a path in a digraph that ignores the directions, a simple path is a path in which no vertex is repeated, so a simple semipath would be a semipath with no repeated vertices
 
Gans model of the hyperbolic plane
 
You know the classic "sets are not doors" thing in topology? We should call clopen sets ajar so that sets are doors
 
(One of the options available for the hyperbolic game HyperRogue)
(See here for more)
 
@ÍgjøgnumMeg The problem is that in my source they do not call it semipath
But my source could be wrong.
 
12:45 PM
@nbro well notation and terminology are fluid
 
@BalarkaSen Hey, were you saying a while ago that the free group isn't a subset of $SL(2,\Bbb Z)$? Or am I misremembering
 
In my experience, this is what causes more problems: inconsistent notation and terminology. The concepts, at the end, are learnable, but if you have inconsistent notation, and you are not familiar with the inconsistent notation, that is, e.g., that you can call a simple semipath just a simple path, then you will get confused, because a simple path is usually not a simple semi-path. How do you know for sure that they meant a simple semi-path, as opposed to a simple path?
 
idk man contextualise it
does a proof work if you swap out the concepts (for example)
or does it break it
 
Yeah, fhis should not be a big issue, because in the end when you read the proof it should become clear what properties are being used.
In fact, being able to identify that is an important skill.
 
1:00 PM
@AlessandroCodenotti but then there are still problems, as there are sets that are neither open nor closed and there is no door analogy to that
 
@Secret that's a curtain
 
o right, a curtain is neither open nor closed
 
it#s just there
a bit in the way
but not enough to be an issue
 
neither sets are generally numerous in topology though
compared to open and closed sets
 
in the indiscrete topology what are sets other than the space and the empty set ?
 
1:04 PM
Wait until you encounter a Stone space
Or anything zero-dimensional
 
I don't remember what dimensions means in topology, I am guessing zero dimension topology is not really a set containing only one point?
 
For instance $\Bbb R$ with the indiscrete topology, any open interval is neither open nor the complement of an open set right?
(this is a genuine question soz if it's dumb)
 
yeah, because in indiscrete topology, the only open sets are empty and whole
and their complement are each other, thus they are the only clopen sets
so anything else is neither
 
right so there are numerous curtains
(just to pick a stupid example)
 
I'm speaking of small inductive dimension
Zero-dimensional means that the space has a basis of clopen sets
 
1:10 PM
@AkivaWeinberger No, SL_2(Z) has lots of free subgroups
 
Ah I see
 
It seems to me that the definition of limit is not precise.. but in Math we alwys say precise things, we define everything precisely.. so where I am going wrong?
 
It's an amalgamated product of Z_4 and Z_6. Even better, it's a Z_2-extension of PSL_2(Z) which is Z_2 * Z_3 which is hyperbolic. So it in turn is hyperbolic.
You can fit an F_2 in any hyperbolic group.
 
what type of limit are you talking about here, is it the calculus one or something more general?
 
Alternatively SL_2(Z) acts on H^2, just ping pong with two geodesics.
 
1:11 PM
The calculus one @Secret
 
Uh, I thoguht the epsilon delta definition of limit in usual calculus is very precise?
 
You're back! Hi @Balarka
I'm reading this paper, it's a gentle introduction to the Grigorchuk group (the first group that was shown to have intermediate growth), you'd probably like it too
 
What I said was that Aff(R^2) has no F_2 subgroup. Alessandro gave the argument that since it's R semidirect R^x, and those two groups are abelian, it's amenable and amenable groups don't contain F_2.
Hi @Alessandro!
Cool thanks I'll look at this paper
 
How are you?
 
@Secret Sorry, not getting you :(
 
1:16 PM
tell me how your book or whatever define the calculus limit, I need more details
 
@Alessandro Heh not bad I guess
 
What kind of math have you been thinking about lately?
 
About stratified spaces on and off. I have taken up symplectic geometry as a side reading.
I realized in my probability-II course that the probability density function is precisely the Radon-Nikodym derivative of the pullback measure by the random variable wrt the Lebesgue measure
So I want to read the proof of R-N now
I have the group cohomology talk next weekend, so I also want to rethink about that for a bit
One of my friend is studying differential forms, and another is studying linear algebra (various normal forms, the ideal-subspace correspondence, ...) so I am forced to think about those often :P
All in all, a huge list of things
 
1:35 PM
A lot of stuff indeed
I'll have exams in a couple of weeks so that's my main focus at the moment :P
 
I'm sure my list of things that I'm thinking about will decrease as the semester progresses and I'm barraged with psets
Anyway, off to dinner
Talk later
 
Buon appetito
 
2:34 PM
Let $H$ be a subgroup of $G$. I want to show that $gHg^{-1} = \{ ghg^{-1} : g \in G, h \in H \}$ is also a subgroup of $G$. But I am having some trouble showing that $gHg^{-1}$ is closed under composition. Any hints?
 
 
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3:38 PM
err
other way
@Lozanksy that was right; what is the inverse of an element in $gHg^{-1}$?
 
4:03 PM
Can someone please example? (link: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/3080545/calculating-the-orbit-of-a-group)
I can't seem to understand how to calculate.
I meant explain*
 
4:44 PM
Independence of two events is a symmetric relation, and so is dependence.
 
@ÍgjøgnumMeg $g^{-1}h^{-1}g$ but I mean how can I show $g_1h_1g_1^{-1}g_2h_2g_2^{-1} \in gHg^{-1}$?
 
That's not what the symbol gHg^{-1} means
You've started picking random elements of G for some reason
 
I am trying to show that given two elements $f_1,f_2 \in gHg^{-1}$, $f_1 \circ f_2 \in gHg^{-1}$
 
5:01 PM
@Lozansky I know what you're trying to show, and the only difficulty is that you don't know what the notation means.
g is a specific element of G.
 
@Lozansky $g$ should be a fixed element
sniped
 
Boom
 
Oh shit you're right
 
@MikeMiller sniped :P
 
5:31 PM
@ÍgjøgnumMeg @LeakyNun Hello
 
@Jacksoja hey
 
@ÍgjøgnumMeg I have couple of questions about prime ideals and maximal
am trying to prove that , if P is a prime ideal in R, then R/P is an integral domain
my approch is this
I have to show that R/P has no zero divisors
but what is the zero element in R/P ?
is it P ?
 
and what is the element 1 then ?
 
and what does an element look like in $R/P$ if it is in $P$?
 
5:35 PM
the multiplicative identity of R/P ?
it should be a coset
 
r+P
 
$r + P = ?$ when $r \in P$
 
=P
 
right
and $P = 0$ in $R/P$
 
5:37 PM
okay
 
so if $r \in P$ then $r =0$ in the quotient
now what other properties of prime ideals do you know?
 
I know that if ab are in P , then a is in P or b is in P
 
okay, now translate that to a statement in $R/P$
 
[a] [b] = P
can I say that i take "a" as representative of [a]
 
well people often drop the brackets but yes $a$ is a representative of $[a]$
 
5:39 PM
ab is in P
to say that [a] is a zero divisor in R/P, means that there is an element b in R minus P
st ab are in P
also a is not in P
then it is clear I think yeah ?
 
what is the defining property of an integral domain?
 
commutative ring with 1, and no zero divsiors
 
Okay, so no zero divisors means what about $ab = 0$?
You have all the pieces you need, just need to put them together in the right order
 
means a = 0 or b = 0
okay
 
Right, so $ab = 0$ implies $a = 0$ or $b = 0$
Now, for a prime ideal $P$ you have $ab \in P$ implies $a \in P$ or $b \in P$
$ab \in P$ means what about $ab \in R/P$?
(where $ab$ is a representative for the coset $ab + P$)
 
5:45 PM
it means that ab is in P
it seems like it is the same statment we are using
 
But if $ab \in P$ what happens to it in $R/P$?
 
it become 0
 
Right! So $ab = 0$ in $R/P$
But we also know that $ab \in P$ means $a \in P$ or $b \in P$. Suppose it is $a \in P$. Then $a = ?$ in $R/P$?
 
a= 0 also in R/P
 
Right
 
5:48 PM
so to prove no zero divisors
 
And you can say the same for $b$ if, instead, $b \in P$
 
we need to make sure to take non zero elements in R/P
ie elements that are not in P
 
I have essentially taken you through the full proof here
If $ab \in P$ then $a \in P$ or $b\in P$. Thus, by how $R/P$ is defined, $ab + P = 0 + P$ implies $a + P = 0 + P$ or $b + P = 0 + P$.
 
Yes I see, but what i said was, to prove R/P has no zero divisors, we need to take elements that are not in P, and their product is 0 , and this is a contradiction
because P is prime, two elements not in P , do not get in P when we multiply them
@ÍgjøgnumMeg thanks !
 
But.. that won't happen for any pair of non-zero elements
 
5:53 PM
in Z/6Z
 
That isn't an integral domain
 
2*3 = 6 in Z/6Z
 
precisely because $6$ is not a prime of $\Bbb Z$
 
but none of 2 and 3 are in 6Z
 
$(6)$ is not a prime ideal in $\Bbb Z$ !
 
5:53 PM
Yes that is the contradiction I took
I took two elements that are not in P , ie there are different from zero , and multiply them
 
A non-example is not the same as a contradiction @Jacksoja
 
if I get an element in P , ie their product is zero , but P is prime it cant happen
[a] =0 iff a is an element of P ,
[a] [b] = [ab] = 0 iff ab is an element of P
[a] is a zero divisor iff a is not in P, and there is an element in R minus P, st ab is in P.
but this is saying R/P has zero divisiors iff P is not a prime ideal
@ÍgjøgnumMeg what is wrong with this argument?
 
Well sure, because $R/P$ is an integral domain iff $P$ is a prime ideal
 
but if we negate that
 
so if you negate that then $R/P$ is not an integral domain iff $P$ is not prime
 
6:02 PM
yes
but it sounds correct to me , it is not ?
or is it bad way to prove it ?
 
well a statement is logically equivalent to its contrapositive and the contrapositive of $P \iff Q$ is $\neg P \iff \neg Q$
so that's fine but it's easier to just directly prove it..
 
okay thanks ! but the direct prof of yours i did not understand fully
you said that if ab in P, then a in P or b in P, thus ab+P = 0+P
this working directly with cosets
 
No I'm saying $ab \in P$ implies $ab + P = 0 + P$ in $R/P$ by definition
and then you use the primality of $P$ to conclude that $a + P = 0 + P$ or $b + P = 0 + P$
 
aha
what comfuses me is the notation
ab+P
 
(because $\operatorname{anything} \in P$ means that $\operatorname{anything} = 0$ in $R/P$
 
6:07 PM
additive notation for multiplication
 
this is what elements look like in a quotient ring
 
but we never use something liek
rP ?
 
A ring is an abelian group (usually written additively) together with a multiplication that distributes over the addition
An ideal is a normal subgroup of the underlying group together with the absorption property ($ra \in I$ for all $r \in R$ and $a \in I$)
so the cosets are written $r + I$
and then you define multiplication to be $(r + I)(s + I) = rs + I$
and this works because $I$ absorbs things
 
okay thanks alot ! this is a lot better !
I was comfusing notation for cosets of groups
like xH
i thought for some reason , elements of the ring can also be written like that
sorry
 
Well $(\Bbb Z , +)$ is a group right?
 
6:11 PM
yes
 
Take the subgroup $2\Bbb Z$. How would you write the cosets of that subgroup?
 
0+2Z and 1+2Z
 
exactly
a ring is just an additive abelian group so the cosets are written $r + I$
 
makes much more sense now thanks really !
 
6:47 PM
Anyone know a good example of a differentiable function that isn't analytic?
I'm blanking
 
7:10 PM
A bump function works, but there should be easier examples
 
#Spherical #tiling shown rotating in the Pierce quincuncial projection. Regular cube. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peirce_quincuncial_projection https://t.co/o2JRK1GBMQ
The plane can't cover a sphere but it can damn well try
 
@Thorgott That's actually good enough for what I needed it for
Thanks
 
7:28 PM
@BalarkaSen You're reading symplectic geometry? That's cool... What you reading it from?
 
Hi everyone, I was trying to verify the claims at the end of the page 125 of Hatcher's AT, namely that "(delta_1)^n - (delta_2)^n in the first group corresponds to the cycle (delta_1)^n" part, but I had (delta_1)^n - const. Now, I am trying to show that const is in the boundary and showed it for odd n (namely it's the image of the "upper" const map) but couldn't show it for even n. Can someone help with that sentence from the book and also give me a hint to show that const is always a boundary?
 
 
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8:36 PM
Consider $s\in\{0,..,n\}$. Let $H$ be a set of all the $s$-subsets of $[n]$. Also consider the action of $S_n$ on $X$ by $\sigma\cdot \{x_1,...,x_s\}=\{\sigma(x_1),...,\sigma(x_s)\}$. let $x\in X$.

How can I find $| \operatorname{Stab}_{S_n}(x)$|?
 
9:16 PM
Do you mean by H, X? And do you mean by [n], the set {1, ... , n} ?
If yes, I think the answer is S_s semidirect product S_(n-s)
 
Stokes theorem should be called generalized fundamental theorem of calculus
 
??
nevermind, I should look it up first :P
 
9:39 PM
hi @CaptainAmerica16
 
@LeakyNun Hey
Stokes theorem is something you learn in calc 3, yeah?
"applies to higher differential forms ω instead of just 0-forms such as F"
hm...
 
@LeakyNun Yeah I would be fine with this name change.
That's what it is and what I tell my students every time it's relevant.
 
9:55 PM
Is the quotient of a locally path connected space locally path connected? I'm thinking that $[0,1]/ \sim$ with $x \sim y$ if and only if $x,y \in [0,1)$ is a counterexample, but I am not sure how to show this.
 
The neighborhoods are so big in that quotient that local path connectedness is just the same thing as path connectedness, and any quotient of the interval is clearly path connected.
Now as it turns out quotients of locally path connected spaces indeed are locally path connected, so you will have trouble coming up with any counterexample. I don't remember the proof but it was an exercise in my first topology class, so it can't be that nasty.
IIRC I relied on the following characterization. X is locally path connected iff for any open set U, the path components of U are open in U.
 
10:15 PM
Interesting, since the continuous image of a locally path connected space is not necessarily locally path connected I thought it sounded suspicious for quotients as well
 
10:29 PM
Ah, thank you! I'll have to give this some thought.
@MikeMiller By the way, what Topology book did you study from?
 
The book was Kinsey's "topology of surfaces". It is ok, I like the discussion of the classification of surfaces. But a lot of what I learned was through supplementary exercises so I don't really have anything to share anymore.
 
Neat. Thanks!
 
10:47 PM
Sure. The definition of topology is wrong though. For some reason she defined "topology" to mean what most people would call "basis of a topology".
It's mostly harmless. Just weird.
 
@TedShifrin If I paramaterise a function x= f(t) and y=g(t) like x=t and y=t^2 why is it that the intersection in the x,y,t plane, I only get a point? not y=x^2? I understand the method of eliminating the variable just not why it works, may you please explain?
 
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Q: Conjecture about testing if $A$ is a UFD.

mickConsider an integral domain $A$ with a multiplicative norm $N$. $$N(a) \space N(b) = N(ab) $$ For all elements $a,b$ in $A$. Since we are talking about an integral domain there are no zero-divisors. Thus $N(x) = 0 $ iff $x=0$. Let $k$ be the number of units. Let $n$ be an integer and let $y...

Any ideas ?
 
@MikeMiller "Mostly harmless, just weird." Story of my life
 
11:19 PM
@mathsssislife I don't understand what "intersection in the x,y,t plane" means.
 
hi demonic @Alessandro
 
@mick what norm are you talking about? The one you quote is defined as a product over the elements of a Galois group
(the context of which requires a field extension)
(i.e. $\Bbb Q(i)/\Bbb Q$)
(or at least in the Galois case)
(parentheses)
also hi @Alessandro and @Ted
 
hi @ÍgjøgnumMeg
 
How's it going?
 
11:34 PM
I'm doing OK, and you?
 
Yeah not bad.. I have an interview on tuesday to work with a company developing mathematics education software
nervous
lol
 
oh, is that something you're actually interested in?
 
Yeah i'm reasonably interested in it, I'm more interested in mathematics itself but I enjoy teaching and try to do it in an interesting/non-formulaic way
 
I wonder what sort of software they produce ... I'm somewhat cynical.
 
I thought you might be; it's supposed to use statistical analysis on the students' progress to tailor exercises/problems more efficiently
 
11:38 PM
Oh, I actually like the idea of software that provides access to tutorial and supplementary problems based on established weaknesses or gaps. I think that's ideal use of the computer in teaching.
 
(though I'd be working as a content creator rather than an analyst)
@Ted that's exactly the purpose of it from what I can tell
 
I think that's great, actually.
If the stuff is good.
 
as well as providing analytics to the teacher on class progress etc.
 
And the pedagogy in the content is good.
That's actually something human teachers are surprisingly bad at — recognizing weaknesses of students and addressing them proactively.
 
That's good then!
 
11:40 PM
Yeah, it sounds very promising to me.
 
the founders and directors of the company are all mathematics educators by training
and they have educational psychologists etc. in their advisory board
 
I have mixed feelings about mathematics education training, however.
 
howso?
 
But this sounds like it could be rewarding and interesting. Keep me posted.
 
I shall do so, I'm travelling up to the city tomorrow night and then have a full day interview on Tuesday :(
 
11:42 PM
It turns out that many mathematics education majors (in the US) actually do not like mathematics and are not good teachers. Some are wonderful, of course.
How exciting, @ÍgjøgnumMeg.
 
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Q: $ t(n) = t( x_1 x_2 x_3 ...) = t(x_1) + t(x_2) + t(x_3) + ... + t( x_1 + x_2 + x_3 + ... ) $

mickLet $ n > 1 $ be an integer. Consider The prime factorization $$ n = x_1 x_2 x_3 ... $$ Now define $$ t(n) = t( x_1 x_2 x_3 ...) = t(x_1) + t(x_2) + t(x_3) + ... + t( x_1 + x_2 + x_3 + ... ) $$ Clearly this function is completely determined by its values at primes. This gives us multiple so...

 
(Truth be told, I'm mainly doing it as a Plan B because my masters application got rejected. If I don't get it I'll probably send a quick application to Frankfurt university)
 
I thought I remembered your applying. Sorry you didn't get in.
 
It was my fault, I didn't get my application in on time due to some weird self-sabotage so the university flat out rejected the application
 
This is not my kind of thing at all, @mick, but I don't see how you've defined any function $t$. You need to explain more in your post.
Oh, that was dopey, @ÍgjøgnumMeg.
 
11:45 PM
@Ted right.. I got accepted the previous semester and had to wait because of financial issues lol
Thus begins months of me complaining
actually it began a couple of days ago but you weren't here to witness it
 
Oh, didn't you arrange with them to postpone the acceptance by one semester?
 
They said that's not possible and that you just need to reapply for the next semester
 
Well, relentless complaining won't help anything and will just get people annoyed with you.
 
Yeah fair one
 
Oh, in the US sometimes schools will just put an acceptance on hold.
 
11:46 PM
Yeah the UK does that too, sad
Anyway, application deadline for Frankfurt is still the 15th of Feb. so I can apply there if this goes wrong
Not ideal but also screw the UK
 
Do I detect angst? Let us angst together
 
Are you angsting already, Demonark?
 
@Daminark yaaas
 
I've been angsting ever since people started getting answers back
 
It's way early.
 
11:48 PM
Trying to reel it in but that's easier said than done
 
my copy of local fields should arrive in the next couple of days so I can make a second pass at learning about them..
 
@ÍgjøgnumMeg Serre?
 
@mick There is only one possible choice of $t$, the $0$ function. Let $p$ be prime. Then, $t(p)=t(p)+t(p)$ the first term comes from applying $t$ to each prime factor in turn and summing. The second term comes from applying $t$ to the sum of the prime factors. Thus, $t(p)=0$. Then, extend to get $t\equiv 0$.
 
Are they local organic fields?
 
11:49 PM
@Karl: I couldn't make sense of what he wrote.
And hi.
 
Locally grown
home grown fields
@daminark yis
 
I wonder what characteristics locally grown fields have.
 
Hey @Ted
 
Nice
 
err they are locally compact topologically grown fields
 
11:51 PM
Hmm .... well, hope these fields don't need migrant labor to harvest them.
Heya @Eric.
 
implying migrant labour will still be a thing in this country after March
 
I was focused more on the US, but — yeah.
 
hahah fair
 
@TedShifrin Just making a guess - either the question is not interesting or a more careful definition is required.
 
oh boy, everyone is tensing up for those grad school apps
 
11:59 PM
Blood pressure at 145/93 and rising
 
It's only mid January..
 

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