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21:00
@JM Oooooooh. Yes! And here I was thinking that I was coming to the chatroom today with a recipe for some nice brownies...
@Gigili If I may: part of being a politician (unfortunately, that's part of what being a mod is) is taking even barbed comments into stride. Have you watched your local politicians lately?
@BrianMScott Thank you for making that clear for me :D
Well, Blago not withstanding...
@TheChaz Maybe at a later date, I can write about pastries. :)
@JM No, I have not. I'm allergic to politics and every word starting with politi-[blah].
21:04
@Gigili That is unfortunate, as it's one of those necessary evils...
@JM Regrettable even, but I couldn't help it.
In any event: it's not exactly a written rule, but one must always try to be gracious even with barbs. You tip your hand about being easily provoked, you lose.
@JonasTeuwen ayt?
yia
@MattN Yes, but for all practical purposes I'm dead.
21:07
Relatedly: the word "patient" appears somewhere in the general mod criteria.
@JonasTeuwen Noooo. I was going to ask you about the uniformly continuous thingie from yesterday.
@TheChaz BTW, I find disclaimers like that cloying; if things go badly, people will use those statements as an out. If you're having trouble expressing yourself, it is good to note that, but if problems arise, pointing to "textual communication" as the source of the problem is disingenuous.
@JonasTeuwen Shall we try to find you an impractical porpoise? They do like to play ...
@JM What are you trying to say? You need to be more direct if you're talking about me.
@lewist Right; you know that the medium is limited, so you make the best out of it.
@Gigili Try not to explode at every barb thrown at you, is what I like to say.
21:09
@BrianMScott Also I find the two statements: The factors belong to the product, and the product belongs to the factors to be contradictory.
@JM ^*explodes* : D
yay! Jonas Meyer's back!
@JM I will try. Being a moderator might help me (I don't mean what you're thinking!).
@skullpatrol They're symbiotes, and it's a question of whose point of view you adopt! :-)
@lewist Call it what you want. If you knew the personal pain that text-based miscommunications have caused me, you would probably keep that opinion to yourself.
21:11
@BrianMScott Absolutely :D
Thanks again.
@tb But but... You have plenty of Jonas with me!
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My pleasure.
@JonasTeuwen : D
Can this be answered with a shorter answer or is DM's as short as it gets?
@lewist How did you know what I want to say?
Alternatively I could post my (probably wrong) argument on main and collect a few downvotes before getting closed as exact duplicate.
Or come back tomorrow when Jonas is alive.
21:15
@MattN Such optimism!
@MattN You wouldn't happen to have a defibrillator on hand?
@Gigili If you do get elected, you're in for a hell of a learning experience...
@JM No, but I have pliers, wire and insulation tape. Maybe we can improvise one with a socket.
@JM Heh, I couldn't agree more!
@BrianMScott : )
@MattN I don't know... every time Jerry plugs Tom's tail into the socket, all that happens is that we see his internals.
21:18
I'm considering adding a very nice sentence to my nomination.
@JM I think you're confusing it with Itchy and Scratchy.
@MattN Maybe. I keep mixing up these people.
Hi @DylanMoreland
@JM "people" : )
^ explodes ;-)
21:20
Before I'm off again: Isn't one of these two a dupe of the other?
@MattN Yes, I'm well aware that I'm stretching the definition of "people" a fair bit... :D
@JM I'm relieved to hear that : )
@JM Yes, absolutely, I just think it's important to encourage people to communicate at the same level of seriousness. If I'm directly frustrated with a situation, idle musing tends to provoke me further, so in the reverse situation, I try to avoid just dipping my toes into somebody's anger (or having that appearance.)
@MattN To my eyes, they are.
@lewist Simply put: it's almost always hard to read people on the Internet. :)
21:24
And sorry, @TheChaz, I was too harsh. Making an effort to communicate honestly is more than I can usually manage. :)
@JM Yes indeed.
But you do what you can.
And don't do what you can't :D
@lewist: Could you take a look at my nomination and tell me if the last paragraph is too much for a nomination?
@Teddy: That was fast! : )
Well, I think it is.
editing again
21:30
Well, I should be heading out. You kids be nice, okay? :)
@JM Led by our fearless, charming matriarch, how could we do otherwise?
@JM Yessir.
@TheChaz I'm a guy. ;P
Anyway, see you!
Hi @N3buchadnezzar
21:32
@JM I rather think that TheChaz was referring to Gigili.
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@JM I sure hope you were playing dumb
@skullpatrol Hi hic
@N3buchadnezzar Hung over again?
Not yet.
21:34
hic
haec, hoc
ad hoc
I have a wierd question, do you think englishmen or generally people outside of norway, can hear the differences between two norwegian dialects?
21:37
Good night everyone, bed time here. Tomorrow I'll badger you with uniformly continuous functions and wrong proofs : )
Good night Matt.
@N3buchadnezzar Can a norwegian hear the difference between two english men?
I certantly can, but I have been learning the language for quite some time. And also had two visits to england.
Different norwegian dialects are more different than english and american.
@Gigili I suppose you've edited by now, but what confused me about the third paragraph was how these attributes would (concretely) come into play. I'd rather hear about what actions moderator might take, differently or similarly, than what qualities a moderator might possess. The second paragraph was really good along those lines, though.
That is not such a wierd question after all :D @N3buchadnezzar
21:45
@skullpatrol Well how about these three, can you hear any differences between this and that ?
@lewist Thank you for your time. I thought I could name something that would make my moderating style different, which is what I said in the third paragraph. I'll add more about what you suggested tomorrow.
@MattN yeah, fast but wrong...
@N3buchadnezzar All three sound very similar to me.
@skullpatrol Although I withdrew from the elections, I think it should be a mix of all three in one.
A balance
21:51
You vagely should hear that the first one uses more O and A sounds, while the second more have a more clear rrr sound. Third one vagely uses more EEEeee sounds... Hard to expain, hahaha.
@N3buchadnezzar But I have never been to Norway.
I guess its hard to notice, huh.
Yes, to an untrained ear :D
In my opinion the answer to your question depends on how much "training" one has in the languages.
Although, Norwegian is a sort of singing language :D
Gotta love those vocals
Sort of like does a Physicist and a Chemist read the language of mathematics the same?
21:57
"
Stao no pao, superlag frao Sogndal
Da er ikkje noken som kan slao oss no
"
@N3buchadnezzar I once I asked a finnish guy to tell me how many vocals his alphabet had - when he moved on to counting with two hands I realized scandinavian languages are quite a big deal
Possibly, although I can listen to and read swedish and danish with little problem. This common here =)
@N3buchadnezzar ao = standard å?
Although the Swedes have problems speaking with the Danes, and vice versa. It is fun to watch them switching over to English.
@BrianMScott Nope, its dialect. Pronounced ao. aa = å. å sounds like o in boring.
@N3buchadnezzar You misunderstood my question, I think. I wasn't asking about the pronunciation; I was asking whether this dialect ao corresponds to standard å, i.e., whether pao is dialect for and so on.
22:01
No, like I said its dialekt. When we write ao, we pronounce it as such.
@PeterTamaroff Why?
I don't get the three in one part.
@N3buchadnezzar I understand that. My question has nothing to do with pronunciation.
Also, should I answer the questions asked on meta in my nomination post?
@BrianMScott In that regard you could say ao, represent å yes. Sorry for the confusion on my behalf.
Phew! :-)
22:03
Unlike those pesky English and Frenchmen. I mean come on, how are one to guess how to pronounce phosphorus and galois, Lagrende, L`hôptial?
22:21
Special thanks to @TheChaz, that comment received five upvoted by far and I'm not sure what it means.
@Gigili Who cares?
22:42
@skullpatrol Sup?
@Gigili On your nomination? I assumed that it referred to the exchange that the two of you had under Benjamin's post.
@N3buchadnezzar Chillen, you?
@skullpatrol Chillen, reading some manga.
I doubt he meant much by it.
22:49
@DylanMoreland You're right. As a side note, someone here called me "narrow-minded" and I concluded it's not an insult since then. I'd travel in time to flag that message if I could.
@skullpatrol More like this
@DylanMoreland Not he, but the ones who are upvoting his comment!
23:08
Anyone here feel like giving an intuitive explanation about why "a line is an infinite circle" in Complex analysis?
@Jeff Look in any text on complex variables and read about the Riemann sphere.
Stereographic projection might be another thing to Google for.
I'm happy to talk about it, but hundreds of people have already written about it and it's hard to believe that I'd do a better job than they.
@N3buchadnezzar Wow. That seems rather extremist.
@N3buchadnezzar I don't think that a good link to keep around.
@DylanMoreland Indeed. It seems flaggable.
I'm not, like, offended. It just seems needless.
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23:16
Any link on the circle/line question?
@PeterTamaroff me? no specific questions. a friend of mine said that her complex teacher said that routinely. i'm familiar with the basics of the stereographic projectection onto the Riemann sphere.
@DylanMoreland Ah, my idea was to remove it. However, no nudity. No blood, no gore etc.
Sorry for forgetting it :$ I was busy reading..
@Jeff It is also interesting to think the following:
We approximate functions with lines (constant slope), but we also approximate their curving with circles (constant curvature). We know the radius of the circle is $1/C$ (where $C$ is the curvature). What is the curvature of a line?
23:39
@PeterTamaroff sorry, got distracted. the curvature of a line is $0$
@Jeff Right, so if we were to approximate it by a circle at some point, no finite radius would suffice.
@PeterTamaroff cool. nice sweet intuitive description.
@Gigili You would flag someone for calling you narrow-minded? Does that warrant alerting all the mods?
@robjohn It will alert the mods. However, I don't think it is worth a flag.
@PeterTamaroff I agree, but it is simply someone's opinion of one of Gigili's opinions.
23:45
@robjohn Can I see it in context¿
This question seems interesting, simply because some deduction is needed, but I got to an informal solution pretty straightforwardly. math.stackexchange.com/questions/140143/limit-of-a-sequence
@robjohn But Gigili could get offended!
Apr 9 at 11:40, by David Wallace
@Gigili I find that very narrow-minded of you.
@robjohn It's a very subjective chat. I'll grab something to eat, BRB

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