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Suppose that for each $f \in L^p (\mathbb{R})$, the improper integral $$\int_{\mathbb{R}} f(x) \varphi(x) dx$$ converges. Show that $\varphi \in L^q (\mathbb{R}).$
My idea is that by the Holder inequality,
$$\left| \int_{\mathbb{R}} f(x) \varphi(x) dx \right| \le \bigg\{ \int_{\mathbb{R}} \left| f(x) \right| ^p dx \bigg\}^{\frac{1}{p}} \bigg\{ \int_{\mathbb{R}} \left| \varphi(x) \right| ^q dx \bigg\}^{\frac{1}{q}}$$

The left side converges, thus both factors on the right also converge. Therefore
$$\int_{\mathbb{R}} \left| \varphi(x) \right| ^q dx < \infty$$
and consequently, $\varphi \in L^q (\mathbb{R})$.
However the flaw in the proof is that it doesn't guarantee that the left-hand side is less than $\infty$
@Harry you can't infer convergence of the right hand side from that of the left hand side
Think about $a_n = 1$ and $b_n = n$. We know $a_n \le b_n$, $a_n$ converges, and $b_n$ doesn't converge.
Exactly
Any suggestions on how I can show that $$\int_{\mathbb{R}} \left| \varphi(x) \right| ^q dx < \infty$$
Good evening, @Daminark
Sorry I'm kinda tabbing in and tabbing out a lot because I've got my own homework. Hmm
No worries, @Daminark, I am also doing 5 other things and my functional analysis homework is just one of them
Hmm, this is somewhat harder than showing that $(L^p)^* = L^q$, since we don't know yet that the map $f\mapsto \int_{\mathbb{R}} f\phi$ is bounded on $L^p$, do we?
Oh hmm
00:37
Yeah
Could we try to use closed graph theorem here?
This inspiration isn't the best but closed graph theorem is kind of one of theorems that lets you infer boundedness of an operator based on knowing a sort of "soft" fact
There is an assumption that the graph of $T$ is a closed subset of $X \times Y$ where $T : X\rightarrow Y$
ah, I see we're talking about the good kind of graphs
ah i see you're a man of culture as well
@EricSilva shouldnt you be learning physics
00:51
i switched to mcf for rn
ok i have no problem with taht
im almost finished w the part of ecker that isnt garbage
which part of ecker is garbage
the whole end
chapter 5
Hello, guys, any suggestions on my question? @EricSilva @0celo7
00:53
@EricSilva ok when you're here we're gonna read chapter 5
ive got my own problems goin on sorry my man
@HarryEvans does the closed graph theorem not work
@0celo7 according to André a bunch of the results are just plain wrong cause they'd resolve some of the major problems in MCF but i havent seen why they fail yet
Is Andre an expert on MCF
he's worked in it before
00:55
@HarryEvans In the case $p=2$ I know the answer
he's a paper on it in annals and appearing in jdg
Was he specific about what's wrong?
I know two postdocs of Ecker
nah he just said a bunch of it was wrong
im meeting with him in a couple days to talk to him about it
I was under the impression Ch 5 was Brakke's old stuff
again i havent gotten there yet so idk
00:58
Yes, @0celo7, I figured it too. @Daminark just suggested it because it talks about continuity hence boundedness
How do you work it our for $p =q=2$?
For $p=2$, that operator is symmetric. A symmetric operator is closable. It has to equal its closure since it's defined everywhere. But a closed operator defined everywhere is continuous by CGT.
Maybe something like that works in the other cases.
you might ask which operator I'm talking about, and I don't have a good answer lol
Thanks, will consider that
what I said is probably wrong, don't
01:43
$\ker T + \operatorname{im} T^\ast = V$
$\ker T^\ast + \operatorname{im}T = W$
$\operatorname{im}T^\ast \to V : T^\ast(w) \mapsto T^\ast(w)$
$\ker T \to V : v \mapsto v$
$T(v)=0$
01:59
@LeakyNun what are you doing
nothing
We have the subset $A=\{(x,y)\in \mathbb{R}^2 : y=\sin\frac{1}{x}, x\in (0,\frac{1}{\pi})\}$. How could we determine the boundary of A?
02:27
$\ker T \oplus \operatorname{im}(T^\ast) \hookrightarrow V : (v, T^\ast(w)) \mapsto v+T^\ast(w)$
@LeakyNun what is the meaning of this
$\operatorname{im}(T^\ast) \hookrightarrow V/\ker(T) : T^\ast(w) \mapsto [T^\ast(w)]$
@0celo7 i'm just thinking out loud
$\operatorname{im}(T^\ast) \hookrightarrow \operatorname{im}(T) : T^\ast(w) \mapsto T(T^\ast(w))$
$T(T^\ast(w)) = 0 \implies \langle w, T(T^\ast(w)) \rangle = 0 \implies \langle T^\ast(w), T^\ast(w) \rangle = 0 \implies T^\ast(w) = 0$
you're worrying me
all this algebra
can't be good
 
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eh. not chicken eggs, though
The question is not usually stated as "which came first, the chicken or the chicken egg?" :-)
ie It does not specify that it needs to be the egg of a chicken.
06:41
@s.patroller Obviously egg came first :)
Anyone here familiar with cryptography?
@ManeeshNarayanan :-)
07:10
We have the subset $A=\{(x,y)\in \mathbb{R}^2 : y=\sin\frac{1}{x}, x\in (0,\frac{1}{\pi})\}$. I want to determine the boundary of $A$.


Do we maybe check for that where a convergent sequence of the set converges?

It holds that $(a_n, b_n)\rightarrow (a,b)\iff a_n\rightarrow a$ and $b_n\rightarrow b$.

We have two cases: if $a\neq 0$ and if $a=0$.

If $a\neq 0$: Let $(a_k,b_k)\in M$. We have that $a_k\neq 0, \forall k\geq k_0$ since $a_k\rightarrow a\neq 0$.
We also have that $b_k=\sin\frac{1}{a_k}\rightarrow b\in [-1,1]$.
07:51
Hello
good morning
Hello @LeakyNun !! Do you have an idea about my question above?
08:48
Hello @Astyx !! Do you have an idea about my question above?
@MaryStar Have you tried drawing $A$ ?
@Astyx Yes, it is the following:
Since it is a graph the interior of A is empty, because if we consider a ball around a point of the graph, we will see that there is a point on the ball that doesn't belong to the graph, right?

But how could we determine the boundary? @Astyx
What about the boundary of $A' = \{(x,y) \in \Bbb R^2 : y=\sin{1\over x}, x\in (\epsilon, {1\over \pi})\}$ ?
@Astyx How could we check that boundary? I got stuck right now.
For $\epsilon \gt 0$, sorry
09:02
@Astyx Do we have to determine the range when $x\in (\epsilon, {1\over \pi})$ ?
The point is that if you zoom in enough, you see a line
When $\epsilon \gt 0$
Do you mean the line parallel to the y-axis? @Astyx
09:36
hello, im having trouble with using mathjax in this chat. I added the links on this page (math.ucla.edu/~robjohn/math/mathjax.html) to my bookmarks but it doesnt work. the tex on the installation page is displayed but not here in the chat. im not very familiar with html and so on
10:17
No, I mean, it's the graph of a continuous function @MaryStar
$x\mapsto \sin {1\over x}$ is a continuous function over $\Bbb R^*_+$
Which means the restriction of the graph to any compact is closed
ie $\forall \epsilon \gt 0$, $A_\epsilon = \{(x,\sin{1\over x}), x\in [\epsilon, {1\over\pi}]\}$ is closed and of empty interior, and is its own boundary
Now something different happens at $0$, because it cannot be continued as a continuous function
As a matter of fact, due to the periodicity of $\sin$, you can prove the the boundary is $A \cup \{({1\over \pi}, 0)\} \cup \left([0;1]\times\{0\}\right)$
I'll let you prove that
Ok! Thank you so much!! :-) @Astyx
And more generally, if $f$ is a periodic continuous function over $\Bbb R$, defining $A_f = \{(x, f({1\over x})), x\in \Bbb R_+^*\}$, you have $\overline {A_f } = A_f \cup ( \{0\}\times f(\Bbb R))$
^^^ $\{0\}\times [0;1]$, not $[0;1]\times \{0\}$
Meaning if $f$ isn't constant, $x\mapsto f(1\over x)$ cannot be continued by a continuous function at $0$
This being said, I'm off
10:54
@balarka do u live in a society?
11:10
no, he is a math hermit
In the (undercrowded) Quantum Computing SE beta site someone asked about Explicit Lieb-Robinson Velocity Bounds. I found the question worthy and offered my first bounty on it... which is still unclaimed. Maybe some people from the math community are up for that? There are no answer yets, so any helpful contribution has a very good chance to claim the bounty...
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12:26
If V^* is a vector space dual to V, are the basis elements e^i = \delta_{ij} linear? For example, can I do e^i(e_i + e_j) = e^i(e_i) + e^i(e_j)? I assume not because the LHS e^i(e_i + e_j) = 0, but RHS is 1?
To find the area of a closed surface using integration which is the correct notation? ∲ds is alright but is ∲dA technically correct?
12:43
Yeah
@Hawk Why would e^i(e_i+e_j) equal 0?
13:04
Why does this show that those three functions are linearly independent? I mean why is it justified to take different values of x and then derive a=b=c?
@AkivaWeinberger
@AkivaWeinberger because e_i + e_j \neq e_i
All elements of V^* are linear.
e^i(e_j) is 1 iff e_i=e_j, yeah, but that doesn't mean e^i(a)=1 iff e_i=a.
Think of e^i(a) as the dot product of e_i with a.
@AkivaWeinberger hello, please do you know what is the name of this lemma :
@Silent They're linearly independent if there exist constants a, b, and c such that $ax+be^x+c\sin(x)=0$. Since a, b, and c are constants, they don't depend on $x$, so we can plug in different values of $x$.
At $x=0$, we get $a(0)+b(1)+c(0)=0$, or $b=0$.
ok, now i get it
thank u
13:13
@Vrouvrou Dunno
Don't know
@AkivaWeinberger I think u mean there exist no other constants (a,b,c), other than (0,0,0)
is it possible to have that $\sup_{<g,y>=0, ||y||=1|}<f,y><0$ ?
@AkivaWeinberger i m not really following, but i gtg....sigh
@AkivaWeinberger, how can i show that $x^2$, $\cos x$ and $e^x$ are linearly independent using similar method? Here x=0 does not work!
@Silent Yes, whoops…
@Silent You could try $x=-1$, $0$, and $1$ and get a system of three linear equations in $a$, $b$, and $c$, and try to show (using determinants or elimination) that it doesn't have any nontrivial solutions.
13:28
ok
Alternatively, you could also look to the first and second derivatives of $ax^2+b\cos x+ce^x$ at zero
(Unrelated) the above discussion reminds me of this paper:
Some day I will read again why the wronskian plus suitable intersection of intervals can control the behaviour of uncountably many points of the functions
It will be interesting to see what nontrivial set of functions f,g,h are linearly dependent over the whole real line (that will require countably many intersections)
@AkivaWeinberger, Does there exist unique matrices $P,L,D,U$ for any invertible matrix $A$, such that $PA=LDU$, where $P$ is permutation matrix, $L$ is lower triangular matrix with all diagonal entries $1$, $D$ is a diagonal matrix and $U$ upper triangular matrix with all diagonal entries $1$. ? (I know existence.)
Hi, I would like to know: What kind of graph that can be split into small number of trees. For example: planar graph could be split into 2 or 3 using k-tree. Is there any other special kind of graph.
14:26
@ShaVuklia i live under a big rock
Hi, I'm having some troubles understanding how the dimension of a projective variety $X \in \mathbb{P}^n$ is defined.

I know that if $Y$ is an affine variety, then the dimension of $Y$ is equal to the dimension of its underlying topological space. Does this definition also work per a projective variety?
@BalarkaSen what !! :D
@konoa Yup, it's still true.
Well, if you are working with a real projective variety that is.
but if I work with $\mathbb{C}$? why would this defintion fall?
If you have a complex projective variety dimension is half the topological dimension.
Because $\Bbb C$ is algebraically 1-dimensional but topologically 2-dimensional
14:31
@BalarkaSen what does that jesus comment refer to
Also there's slight issues with real projective varieties as they can be bit of a cuck
$x^2 + y^2 = 0$ is a perfectly fine real variety except it's just a point
@0celo7 The surreal meme
@BalarkaSen no, it was deep fried
deep fried != surreal
It was a deep fried surreal meme for god's sake
so if $X \in mathbb{A}^n_\mathbb{C}$ is an affine variety of dimension $n$, and I homogenize $X$, $dim(X)=\frac{n}{2}$?
@konoa Er, no, you have to specific what $\dim$ means. Topological dimension is $2n$, algebraic dimension is still $n$.
14:34
These meme genres are too complex to keep track of
@BalarkaSen topological dimension n/2?
what?
$\dim_{top} \Bbb C = 2\dim_{alg} \Bbb C$
What do you refer to when you say "algebraic dimension"?
@konoa If $X \subset \Bbb P^n$ is your projective variety, it has a corresponding homogeneous ideal $\mathcal{I} \subset k[X_0, \cdots, X_n]$ that defines it. Algebric dimension of $X$ is one less than the Krull dimension of $k[X_0, \cdots, X_n]/\mathcal{I}$
(sorry but all this stuff about dimension of a variety confuses me a lot)
14:39
The reason we take one less is because the common zero set of $\mathcal{I}$ defines the cone over $X$ in $\Bbb A^{n+1}$, which is one dimension more than that of $X$.
(That's one of the many ways to define dimension, I'm sure)
Start by understanding why the Krull dimension of an affine complex variety should be half its dimension as a topological space
You can think of it as the dimension of $X$ as a complex manifold (if its smooth), so for example Riemann surfaces are 1-dimensional complex manifolds (but of course they are surfaces when viewed as a real manifold)

-- In general in algebraic geometry you define the dimension of a variety /scheme as the dimension of its underlying topological space (equipped with the zariski topology) - where by dimension you mean the supremum of the length chain of irreducible closed subsets. Note that this is a stupid definition if your space is Hausdorff - you can check that with this definition with \R
thanks guys, you make it more clear
hi @AlessandroCodenotti
14:50
For this to work I need $f\in L^1\cap L^{n/2}\cap L^{2n/(n+2)}$. Seems like a crap hypothesis
Probably easier to say $f=O(r^{-(n+\epsilon)})$
I have two measure spaces $(A,\Sigma_1,\mu)$ e $(B,\Sigma_2,\nu)$ and I consider one of their products $(A\times B,\mu\times\nu,\Sigma_1\otimes\Sigma_2)$ where $\Sigma_1\otimes\Sigma_2$ is the $\sigma$-algebra generated by sets of the form $F\times G$ for $F\in\Sigma_1$ and $G\in\Sigma_2$ (we can take $\mu$ and $\nu$ to be $\sigma$-finite so that the product measure is unique if that makes things easier)
Is there any Pollard Rho calculators where I could check my results?
@AlessandroCodenotti lol "e"
In general it may be possible to extend $\mu\times\nu$ to a $\sigma$-algebra bigger than $\Sigma_1\otimes\Sigma_2$, for example the product measure might not be complete even if the two factors are
@0celo7 what
@AlessandroCodenotti you said "e" instead of "and"
14:54
@0celo7 lol I didn't even notice
@AlessandroCodenotti yes, this is why some people define the product to the completion of the naive product
Well anyway, for $E\subseteq A\times B$ and $a\in A$ we set $E_a=\{b\in B:(a,b)\in X$ and accordingly we define the slices in the other direction
So, if $E_a$ is $\nu$-measurable for $\mu$-almost every $a$, must it be the case that $E\in\Sigma_1\otimes\Sigma_2$?
15:13
How do we know that there exist unique $u\in U$ and $w\in W$ such that $v=u+w$ here? @AlessandroCodenotti
Because that's part of the definition of $V=U\oplus W$
ok!
whats that + sign in round called?
@AlessandroCodenotti
@Silent direct sum
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Q: Vitali Covering Lemma Proof

user193319 Why may we assume that each interval in $\mathcal{F}$ is contained in $\mathcal{O}$? What warrants this reduction? Why is statement (4) true? If $x \in E - \bigcup_{k=1}^n I_k$, then $x \in E$ and $x \notin I_k$ for every $k=1,...,n$. Given some $\epsilon > 0$, there exists $I \in \mathcal{...

@0celo7 thank u
@0celo7, i really can't understand this: Suppose $U$ is a subspace of a vector space $V$, then there exists another vector space $W$ such that basis of $U$ together with basis of $W$ give basis of $V$. Then why for $v\in V$, there is unique $u\in U$ and $w\in W$ such that $u+w=v$?
15:26
what don't you understand about it
@0celo7, i don't get uniqueness.
@Silent what have you tried
@0celo7 I first thought about taking any $u\in U$, and then look at $v-u$, but now i think $v-u$ may not be in $W$.
@Silent suppose $v=u+w=u'+w'$
try to show that $u=u', w=w'$
ok!
15:31
@Silent part of the definition of $V = U \oplus W$ is that $U \cap W = \lbrace 0 \rbrace$, in case you didn't know
15:43
Could someone pleas explain how they got this integral?
https://i.imgur.com/USYzUiR.png
Integrate em by both sides.
the LHS of the integral becomes (v^2-25)m/s
+25 both sides
v^2=(20s-0.2s^2+25)
take the square root of it and then sub 10, then you're done :).
@DarkVampiricAbstractArtist, ok, sorry which topic is that from? Like I understand how int v is v^2 (altho shouldn't it be v^2/2?) but how do I get the 25?
@JoeStavitsky
the integral of v dv = is v^2+c (and c is an arbitrary constant).
so "c" cancels out both sides
25 comes from 5^2
from the LHS of the integral
shouldn't it be (v^2)/2?
yes and then you multiply 2 to the RHS
15:54
O duuuh
ok that parts obvious, so is the sqrt. But, under what conditions does lower limit become part of the integrand?
which integrand?
integrand*
LHS
I'm assuming that's how they got 5^2?
so, how do I know to do that?
LHS, when integrated is (v^2-5^2)/2 and the RHS when integrated is 10s-(0.2s^2)/2
so
(v^2-5^2)/2 = 10s-(0.2s^2)/2
(v^2-5^2) = 2(10s-(0.2s^2)/2)
v^2-25 = 20s-0.2s^2
16:03
@DarkVampiricAbstractArtist, no, I get that, I'm just missing the rule that says to add lower limit to the integrand when lower limit is a constant and upper limit is a variable - or is the formulation different?
v^2 = 20s-0.2s^2+25 => v = sqrt(20s-0.2s^2+25) => v(10)=14.3 m/s.
oh okay gimme a sec.
it doesn't matter, just sub it in.
To find area of a closed surface we write ∮ds... if we write ∮dA (differential area) is it technically correct?
No, both could mean the same thing, rather dA could be the closed surface as well.
doesn't ∮ds imply ∫dA?
16:19
Not exactly...
Why is $P(U \leq F(a)) = F(a)$ ?
Where $U$ is Uniform distribution
17:13
the empty expression?
$$\dfrac{\sum a_i b_i}{n} \ge \dfrac{\sum a_i}{n}\dfrac{\sum b_i}{n} $$
What is this inequality called^?
Aw.. you ruined my joke $\ddot \frown$
(it wasn't a very funny joke, but still $\ddot \frown$)
$\ddot \smile$
@Abcd This inequality isn't true
Take $n=2$, $a_1 = b_2 = 0$ and $a_2 = b_1 = 1$
So it's called "false"
@Astyx My teacher made me write it as "Chebyshev's inequality"
ANd when I gogled that , I saw complicated expressions instead
17:29
You need $(a_i)$ and $(b_i)$ to be increasing
In mathematics, Chebyshev's sum inequality, named after Pafnuty Chebyshev, states that if a 1 ≥ a 2 ≥ ⋯ ≥ a n {\displaystyle a_{1}\geq a_{2}\geq \cdots \geq a_{n}} and b 1 ≥ b 2 ≥ ⋯ ...
@Astyx ya he made us write that condition given on first line of Wiki too
@Astyx Why is it giving the wrong out put with these numbers
output*
Because these sequences are not increasing ?
or decreasing
But the condition is $a_1\ge a_2$ there's an equality there
Wut ?
quick question - Why is there +25 on rhs? Why not +50?i.imgur.com/nVkY0bM.png
17:36
@JoeStavitsky 5^2 = 25
@Abcd, right but after +25 to both sides you multiply through by 2, no?
@JoeStavitsky Please write it down on a piece of paper and check.
$\dfrac{v^2 - 25}{2}= 10s - 0.2s^2$
@Astyx How to prove it for two numbers?
@Abcd, um why is whole lhs divided by 2?
I am trying to prove it for two and three numbers then generalising it because I dont understand those complex summations.
@JoeStavitsky what is : $\int x dx$
@Abcd (x^2)/2
17:48
@JoeStavitsky So that's what I have done. Also, I missed a 2 below 0.2
@JoeStavitsky What are you not getting? It's so simple.
Did you write it on paper and try
@Abcd i.imgur.com/1ykTvsf.png. we have not covered yet integrals with one definite bound and one indefinite bound
@JoeStavitsky This is different from the previous image.
@Abcd yes that's the work I did on it
$\dfrac{v^2-25}{2}= 10s - \dfrac{0.2s^2}{2}$
$\implies v= \sqrt{20s - 0.2s^2 +25}$
@Abcd, yes I see that now it was simply not immediately evident that the whole of LHS was over 2
17:53
@JoeStavitsky So now whats the problem
@Abcd, no its fine now. I mean, I still don't know the formal rule that says the whole of LHS is over 2, not just v^2, and I'd like to. But I see what procedure to follow.
@Abcd, yea but that don't cover cases with one definite bound and one indefinite (which is how the 5^2 ended up therein the first place :/
@JoeStavitsky why are you calling it "one indefinite bound"
v is the bound
velocity changes from $5$ to $v$
@Abcd ok, what is the proper term? constant and variable?
18:00
@JoeStavitsky Idk what you are talking about... Proper term for what?
The point is initial velocity is 5 and then it changes to $v$ at any instant $t$
so it is definite integration
not indefinite
@Abcd, i mean, I could be totally loopy, but I don't remember sticking the limit into the integrand like that ever before
@JoeStavitsky You haven't done enough physics problems then... which grade are you in?
@Abcd sophmore
It seems you have just started kinematics
@Abcd basically
18:03
@JoeStavitsky Okay, you'll get used to it with time.
@Abcd, so again, is there a formal rule that says under what circumstances that limit goes in the integrand? Because obvs you don't always do that
18:18
Hi there
I got a question that might be weird or kinda stupid..
the laplacan can be described into a non-metrizable manifold?
My guess is not because of the lack of second-countable and smooth charts described probably there
19:18
@0celo7, how do we know that we can get an expression of the for $\sum a_{ij} e_i f_j^T = P^{-1} M {Q^{-1}}^T$ for any matrix $M$, here?
@Silent do you have a more precise question?
@0celo7 How do we know that $a_{ij}$'s exist such that $\sum a_{ij} e_i f_j^T = P^{-1} M {Q^{-1}}^T$ hold for any matrix M
@Silent the product $e_i f_j^T$ is a basis for the space of matrices, so this is just some expansion
@0celo7 Wow! So, $e_i f_j^T$ is standard basis, right?
I think each of those guys is just a matrix with 1 in one slot, and 0 everywhere else
19:25
ok
@user17629 I suspect that there is a way of obtaining something like a Laplacian on a space with uniform structure (which is weaker than metrizable), though I have no idea how it might work. I doubt that you could weaken the hypotheses beyond that. Why?
@0celo7 do you happen to know about this question?
@AlessandroCodenotti Is it not true that every section of a product measurable set is measurable?
Sure, but I'm asking about the converse
So it's probably not true if not every section of $E$ is measurable, no?
19:37
${0}\times V$ where $V$ is the Vitali set is $L^2$ measurable
If you take Lebesgue measure to be complete
Some people do not have $\mathcal L^1\otimes\mathcal L^1=\mathcal L^2$
Ah, right
But for example that set doesn't satisfy the criterion I wrote above and in fact it isn't in $\Sigma_1\otimes\Sigma_2$
You're taking $\Sigma_1\times \Sigma_2$ to just be the sigma algebra generated by rectangles?
Not the Caratheodory completion?
Is it true in general that Q(root(m) + root(n)) = Q(root(n), root(m))?
For two non-perfect squares m and n?
I know it is true for m =2 and n = 3
@0celo7 I think it's more interesting to work with the completion then. In this case I can't say that a measurable set every section measurable so it is meaningful to ask the question above
19:43
Right
I think it's true that a set with almost all sections measurable must be measurable, but I'm not sure
@AlessandroCodenotti I don't think what you want is true. See Remark 13.1 on page 152 of DiBenedetto's Real Analysis.
I'll check it out later when I'm at my computer to uhm... get a copy...
Thanks!
Hope it helps
19:58
Hi all; I'm stuck on a basic problem: If Ms. Simon starts her drive at 6:30 a.m., she candrive at her average driving speed with no trafficdelay for each segment of the drive. If she starts herdrive at 7:00 a.m., the travel time from the freewayentrance to the freeway exit increases by 33% due toslower traffic, but the travel time for each of the othertwo segments of her drive does not change.
Based on the table, how many more minutes does Ms. Simon take to arrive at her workplace if she starts her drive at 7 AM than if she starts her drive at 6:30 AM?
What I did, was the following calculation:
$([(\frac { .6 }{ 25 } )*1.33+\frac { 15.4 }{ 50 } +\frac { 1.4 }{ 35 } ]-[(\frac { .6 }{ 25 } )+\frac { 15.4 }{ 50 } +\frac { 1.4 }{ 35 } ])*60$
However, apparently the right answer is 6;
Any help is appreciated;
@NicholasRoberts I think this is true - say m \ne n. Since Q(root(n),root(m)) contains Q(root(m))+Q(root(n)), it suffices to show that both are degree 4 extensions of Q. I think you can check by hand that the min poly of root(m) + root(n) is not of deg 2, and of course it satisfies a deg 4 poly. On the other hand Q(root(n),root(m)) is a degree 2 extension of Q(root(m)).
20:13
the point is the so one of sqrt(n) + sqrt(m)'s conjugates is sqrt(n) - sqrt(m) (you can check: the minimal polynomial of this dude is (x^2 - n)^2 - m), so both sqrt(n) and sqrt(m) is contained in Q(sqrt(n), sqrt(m))
'cuz sqrt(n) = 1/2{[sqrt(n) + sqrt(m)] + [sqrt(n) - sqrt(m)]}
and similar for sqrt(m)
Hello :)How to understand this : $C:x^2=y$ , $\overline{AB} $ where $A=(1,1), B=(2,4)$ $C \cup \overline{AB}$ ?
20:37
@PabloZ392 That's not a question, that's a statement. If there's some part of that you don't understand, you should specify so.
So, I don't understand : $C \cup \overline {AB}$. Is this just part of the plot?
Well, it's the union of the curve and the line segment.
So it's two things together: the parabola and the line segment between two points on the parabola
Why you'd be interested in that, I can't say. But that's what $C\cup \overline{AB}$ represents
20:57
@Semiclassical, hi
@Semiclassical Thank you:)
You may like to read comments here. I think now we have got what u were claiming yesterday: double cosets are in bijection with permutation matrices.
hmm
I think it helps to note that if $U$ is upper-triangular with ones on the diagonal, then so is $PU$ for any permutation matrix $P$
Question.
Why don't we write $f(x,y) = u(x) + iv(y)$, instead of $f(x,y) = u(x,y) + iv(x,y)$?
21:03
@Semiclassical $PU$ upper triangular too?
oh, bah.
no, it's not.
yeah
@orbit-stabilizer because that would presume $u$ is only a function of $x$ and $v$ is only a function of $y$
which is in general not true.
Oh, I see. This was an obvious one, my bad.
np
@Silent the main issue for me is that, in part (b), you need $LU$ with $U$ upper-triangular and with ones on the diagonal
Without that it's not clear to me that you have uniqueness
21:07
Okay, let $A$ be a self-adjoint algebra of complex continuous functions on a compact set $K$. Suppose $A$ vanishes nowhere and separates points on $K$.
Let $R$ denote the uniform closure of $A$. Why is it that if $f= u+iv$ and $u \in R$ and $v\in R$, then $f \in R$?
Is it just because $A$ is an algebra?
@Semiclassical so what is the issue? u mean we can't get similar uniqueness in pat (c), is that the issue?
I mean I'm not convinced yet.
Maybe I would be if I was thinking it through carefully enough
@Semiclassical about what?
I'm not convinced that each double coset contains exactly one permutation matrix.
I want to be sure about that
21:14
it does come down to the question of whether $P=LQU$ with $L$ lower-triangular, $P$ and $Q$ permutation matrices, and $U$ upper-triangular can occur with $P\neq Q$
If not, then we've got a bijection.
Ohhhh $R$ is an algebra. Doi
That's nice
@0celo7 Looks like that's a proper counterexample to my claim, I didn't expect this!
But the book looks very well written and contains a lot of useful stuff, I'm reading a few sections of it
it's the secret analysis book that is far superior to basically all others
21:31
someone can help me on topology please
@0celo7 I like how it gets straight to the interesting stuff without wasting time, the author managed to fit an incredible variety of topics in the same book. Interestingly the measure they use as a counterexample is even finite so I don't think there's any hope of getting a "measurable slices implies measurable" kind of result under nice assumptions
I might ask a question about this stuff on MSE
Depends, which kind of topology? @Vrouvrou
@AlessandroCodenotti it has lots of counterexamples too
a crowning achievement of italian math
Fubini would be proud
What's the book?
follow the links
@AlessandroCodenotti I really like that manifolds are not in the book
These analysis books that throw in manifolds at the end anger me
21:50
What's wrong with that?
it's always half-assed
it is in connexion with geometry
@AlessandroCodenotti
I'm amazed by the terrible typesetting in the last line
I don't think I could do that if I tried
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