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12:58 AM
Hello @user130018
 
@JasperLoy Hi
 
@user130018 What classes are you taking now?
 
hi @Jasper and mr eyeglasses
 
@TedShifrin Hi Ted.
 
I had quite the right triangle workout earlier today @Jasper :)
 
1:05 AM
@TedShifrin I don't understand. Triangle workout?
 
@JasperLoy Real and Complex Analyses, fake Topology, Number Theory, and Chaotic Dynamical Systems
Hi @TedShifrin
 
@user130018 What is fake topology?
 
If you scroll up a few hours, you'll see a basic triangle problem from MathyPerson
workout, @Jasper, as in exercise at the gym :P
 
@TedShifrin Aha, I know. I just did not know about the triangle prob.
@user130018 Teschl's ODE and DS is a good book in print and in PDF on his website.
 
@JasperLoy It's a topology course that cover less than an introductory topology course
 
1:12 AM
so you learn what an open set, a closed set, an a doughnut are, my eyeglasses?
 
Probably something like that LOL
 
@user130018 I see. Bredon's Topology and Geometry treats point set, differential and algebraic topology.
 
Bredon is an extremely ambitious book, meant for grad students
 
I'm taking the "real" real analysis course this semester because the one last semester was fake
@TedShifrin JasperLoy always suggests extremely difficult books
 
no, mr eyeglasses, not always
 
1:14 AM
I need 3 credits to be a full-time student so I have to take the fake topology course since there's no other math course offered that I can take
 
you're taking classes several places now, mr eyeglasses?
 
@TedShifrin My advisor said I should start to next semester because it's awkward to jump into a course in the spring
 
oh, I can't keep track, mr eyeglasses
 
@TedShifrin You can call him Bart.
 
well, that's no more his name than is mr eyeglasses :P
 
1:21 AM
Well, I believe Bart is his name.
 
you do, huh?
 
Yes, I have faith in him.
 
 
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3:08 AM
Hello @TedShifrin
 
 
4 hours later…
6:58 AM
Quiet in here.
I vote we put a little clock above the star board showing the time in various places in the world.
 
7:13 AM
wow, it's silent in here
 
indeed
 
it's going to be more silent, I need to sleep. @anon , do you sleep?
I can recommend it highly
 
7:34 AM
@Chris'ssis @robjohn Is there a way to evaluate the Indefinite Integral : $\int sin (x^2) dx$ ?
 
 
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r9m
10:09 AM
@DanielFischer sama you are at $99998$ atm ! :D
Can someone give me a few awesome telescoping sums pelase ? :-) (I am setting a problem set for a 10th grader .. :) )
 
11:09 AM
@TheArtist It should be $\frac12\mathrm{Si}\left(x^2\right)$ --See Sine Integral.
@r9m I just used this in an answer recently: $$\sum_{k=1}^\infty\frac1{4k^2-1}$$
 
@robjohn Thank you. Ummmm interesting....never seen this Sine Integral
 
@TheArtist Hang on... I need to think on that again... I shouldn't try doing things in my head at this time of night :-)
 
@robjohn Ok :) thanks
@robjohn May I also see the working? :-) since your not doing in your head :)
 
11:28 AM
@TheArtist Okay, there are a pair special functions called the Fresnel Integrals. $\mathrm{S}(x)=\int_0^x\sin(t^2)\,\mathrm{d}t$
Not very interesting
 
@robjohn hehhe :)
Ok then? :-)
 
@TheArtist Is that a question?
 
@robjohn sorry I thought there was a continuation... So How did you get $\frac{1}{12} Si(x^2) $
 
@TheArtist You don't. As I said, that was not right.
21 mins ago, by robjohn
@TheArtist Hang on... I need to think on that again... I shouldn't try doing things in my head at this time of night :-)
 
@robjohn hmmm I'm confused. so what's the answer?
 
11:43 AM
14 mins ago, by robjohn
@TheArtist Okay, there are a pair special functions called the Fresnel Integrals. $\mathrm{S}(x)=\int_0^x\sin(t^2)\,\mathrm{d}t$
 
@robjohn Ohhhh I see :) Thanks
 
The answer is $\mathrm{S}(x)$
 
@robjohn yes yes :)
@robjohn totally unrelated. But where did you do your undergrad ?
 
@TheArtist UCLA
 
@robjohn oh I see. That's a great school :) Your very lucky
 
Huy
11:47 AM
@MikeMiller: In my lecture notes on GR, after defining tensors, for some reason (it doesn't seem to be relevant to me) it is stated that $(T_p^*)^* \cong T_p$. I don't remember a lot about dual spaces but I recall from functional analysis that a space is called reflexive is it's isometrically isomorphic to its bidual. There's always a isometrical embedding iirc, but reflexivity requires surjectivity. Is that correct? If so, does that imply that all tangent spaces are reflexive spaces?
 
12:17 PM
If $\rho(x) = x + 2(t - a \cdot x)a$ is the reflection of $E^n$ in the hyperplane $P(a, t)$, I should read $\rho^2(x)$ as $\rho(\rho(x))$, right?
 
r9m
12:28 PM
@robjohn Thanks :-)
 
1:21 PM
Hi
What is the difference between real positive number and strictly real positive number?
 
Huy
@barznjy: If someone uses both notions "positive" and "strictly positive", the former means $\geq 0$ and the latter $> 0$.
 
@Huy Thanks, in convex optimization we hear this notions quite a lot
 
1:47 PM
Greetings
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis Greetings :)
 
@r9m Hey! How is it going? :-)
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis fine ! How about you ? :)
 
@r9m Not that bad! I just saw a very nice question on main.
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A: How to evaluate the integral $\int_1^{\infty}[u^\alpha-(u-1)^{\alpha}]^2du$?

sos440EDITED. The major obstacle when calculating the integral $$ I = \int_{1}^{\infty} (u^{\alpha} - (u-1)^{\alpha})^{2} \, du = \int_{0}^{1} x^{-2\alpha-2}(1 - (1-x)^{\alpha})^{2} \, dx $$ is that, within the range $|\alpha| < \frac{1}{2}$, the term $x^{-2\alpha-2}$ has singularity at $x = 0$ which...

@r9m I wonder if there are other awesome ways of computing the integral ...
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis I remember seeing that post ! (I didn't know SOS had posted a solution !!)
 
1:52 PM
@r9m These ones usually work fine by adding a fake parameter as sos did, but I wonder if we can find other very nice ways.
@r9m I wanna add this one in a slighlty modified form in my book.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis I have no idea ! I couldn't do it myself :) (otherwise I would have posted a solution .. I had a lot of doubts .. lemme read sos's solution :) ...)
@Chris'ssis NICE ! Its an interesting class for sure ! :D
 
$$\int_0^{\infty} ((x+1)^s-x^s)^2 \ dx, \space -1/2<s<1/2$$
@r9m Yes, it is!
 
@Huy Your manifolds should be finite dimensional, where that's true
 
Huy
@MikeMiller: Right, I realized that just a bit later. =_=
 
I have a p >= 1, is there a n and a f in L_p(R^n) so that f isn't in L_q(R^n) forall s != p ?
 
2:03 PM
:D @Huy
 
Huy
@MikeMiller: I feel like alcohol is showing its effect during the past two days. I seem to become dumber.
 
2:19 PM
@r9m The first time I saw it I did it in less than 5 min, but I used Mathematica and I didn't get a nice result from the beginning.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis ic okay
 
2:31 PM
@r9m In case you have doubts $$\frac{\pi \csc (\pi (s-1)) (-\, _2\tilde{F}_1(1,-s;s+2;1) \Gamma (-s)+2 i (\sin (2 \pi (s-1))+i) \Gamma (-2 (s-1)-3))}{\Gamma (-s)^2}$$
@r9m after that I did it magically nice
@r9m I's also pose the following question $$\int_0^{\infty} ((x+1)^{s+1}-x^{s+1}) ((x+1)^s-x^s) \ dx$$
 
r9m
2:50 PM
@Chris'ssis NIce !!
 
Hello!! Could someone give me a hint for this one: math.stackexchange.com/questions/1093093/… ??
 
@r9m :D
 
r9m
:D I wonder how I heard the ping ... I was watching an action movie and I swear it was loud ! =P
 
:-))))
 
Hey all!
 
3:04 PM
Hello @KhallilBenyattou !!
 
May I ask how to find the smallest positive integer in $S = \{ 123x + 456y \mid x,y\in\mathbb{Z} \}$?
Hey, @Mary. ^_^ Do you have any idea of how to approach the question above?
 
3:21 PM
@KhallilBenyattou You are looking for the gcd(123, 456). To find it you have to apply the euclidean division.
 
Why am I looking for the gcd, @Mary?
 
@KhallilBenyattou gcd(a, b), where a and b are not both zero, may be defined as the smallest positive integer d which can be written in the form d = a·p + b·q, where p and q are integers.
 
3:36 PM
Hi all.
 
Hello @mikeonly !!
 
@MaryStar How is your day?
 
@mikeonly I am studying for the exams that I have in a few days... How is your day??
 
4:00 PM
@MaryStar My exams are finally over. On the way home. :)
 
@mikeonly Great!! :-) How were your exams??
 
@MaryStar Have all A's except for Mathematical Analysis, which is B. I know I shouldn't have said it aloud here.
@MaryStar How are yours going to be?
 
4:16 PM
@Chris'ssis I'm working on it, but I haven't looked at the answers yet.
 
5:05 PM
What a chatty bunch!
 
5:25 PM
@robjohn Back. Great! :-)
 
The questions today are surprisingly boring imo...
 
@mikeonly We will see.. :-)
 
5:42 PM
@Chris'ssis @robjohn Can you do this one? math.stackexchange.com/questions/1091950/…
 
@Sawarnik I never tried that one. I'll star it and try it when I have more free time.
 
:)
 
@Sawarnik I'm preparing to publish a book in the area of integrals, series and limits ... there is much work to do here.
 
@Chris'ssis It was a bit limity problem :D
 
(less time for other kind of problems)
@Sawarnik Yeah, it might be a bit, but there is much geometry to do as well.
 
5:46 PM
Alright.
 
@Chris'ssis What are you going to call it?
 
@AlexanderGruber There are more titles out there, like: A collection of integrals, series and limits (volume I)
There is much stuff out there, so I might have more volumes.
 
@Chris'ssis What if you name it volume I but you never make another volume? That's a dangerous game!
 
@AlexanderGruber Yeah, I assume this risk. I'll succeed, I'm sure of that.
 
@Chris'ssis Maybe you can publish an ebook through amazon. I'll buy a copy.
Well. if it gets good reviews. ;)
 
5:57 PM
@AlexanderGruber I wanna publish by Springer, but it will be also available through amazon. :-)
@AlexanderGruber I'm going to tame beasts in my book. You'll see that is my point ... :-)
@AlexanderGruber In a way I'm the American dream (related to the area I attend) I think since I show that in every single person lies a superman, you only need to discover it through extremely hard work and passion.
@AlexanderGruber My aim in the book is not only to teach you how to attend beasts, but I will also teach you how to think when you're in the area of integrals, series and limits.
 
@Chris'ssis What's Springer's publishing deal like?
 
@AlexanderGruber The first thing I'm interested in is the quality of the book. I have both the ebook and the hard copy of Ovidiu Furdui's book and I can assure you they are amazing (referring to the quality).
 
@Chris'ssis Oh, I just mean I'm wondering about their publishing process. I'm considering publishing a book soon, too.
 
@AlexanderGruber You have to use their template for writing the book. I also learn these details (at the moment I'm more focused on finishing my modules that will be put in my book).
 
@Chris'ssis Gotchya.
 
6:06 PM
@AlexanderGruber What book will you going to publish? By the way, this cover is crazy awesome springer.com/physics/…
 
@AlexanderGruber what color is the book going to be?
 
@Chris'ssis I've been writing a book about finite groups for a few years. Basically a collection of interesting examples... kind of like a more detailed version of what I did here.
I may just make it available to the public for free, though. Publishers charge a lot of overhead, and I'm not really trying to make any money off of it.
 
$M_{16}$ should be pronounced m i six
 
@JorgeFernández stealthy!
@Chris'ssis That's quite alliterative
 
6:10 PM
@AlexanderGruber I see. Will you publish it this year?
 
I thought it was going to be yellow
 
Why does every book I've seen on Springer's website use the same font on the covers...
 
@Chris'ssis Probably. I'm aiming for July.
 
@AlexanderGruber Great. Let me know when you do it. :-)
 
@teadawg1337 If I ever publish through Springer I'm going to make them do my cover in terminal, just to be objectionable.
 
@AlexanderGruber That would be amazing
 
Hello @DanielFischer!!! Long time no see
 
@evinda Yes, been away visiting family.
 
Nice @DanielFischer Did you have a good time? :)
 
Partly.
 
6:16 PM
@DanielFischer Is it snowing today there?
 
@evinda Not here; cool, but above freezing.
 
@teadawg1337 It is called standardisation.
@AlexanderGruber I am not sure they allow that.
 
Aha! @DanielFischer Here it was snowing today, after a very long time...
 
@DanielFischer It's currently above freezing here as well, but after sunset tonight, it won't get back above freezing until early Sunday....
 
Hello, @DanielF.
 
6:23 PM
Hello @MikeMiller.
 
Enjoy your holidays?
 
@JasperLoy I'll hire a mole to change it at the last minute.
 
@MikeMiller In part. Young children can be rather tiring when they don't feel well.
 
I believe it, @DanielF.
 
@DanielFischer i hear they can also be rather tiring when they feel well.
 
6:31 PM
@AlexanderGruber Yes, but in a more cheerful way ;)
More exhausting than tiring then.
 
6:55 PM
Hello @Chris'ssis
 
@evinda Hi
 
Have you started writing your book? @Chris'ssis
 
@evinda Yes.
 
@Chris'ssis Nice
 
@evinda Yeah. There is still much work to do.
 
6:57 PM
@Chris'ssis About integrals?
 
@evinda Integrals, series and limits.
 
Aha @Chris'ssis
@Chris'ssis Could I ask you something else? :D
 
@evinda Sure. :-)
 
Do you really have a brother named Chris? :p @Chris'ssis
 
@evinda Is there a reason for which you ask this question?:-)
 
7:01 PM
No, I asked because of your name... :) @Chris'ssis
 
@evinda Sure, brothers, sisters ... :-)
 
Aha @Chris'ssis
 
@evinda Sometimes Chris might be here using this account, but not now. ;)
 
Hello all
 
Hi
The thing that is very intriguing to me is that some are not prepared to accept that some might be able to produce research papers of high quality without having any math degree and without belonging to any institution. Some people I use to talk to (especially those that have some math degrees) seem shocked when discussing about advanced integrals, series and limits.
 
7:12 PM
@Chris'ssis I wonder if there is any reasonable compilation of people who have published math papers without having any reasonable/related degree
 
Maybe this situation might seem somewhat cool at the beginning, but after a while you realize that it is terribly annoying. OK, you did it being self-educated only, say, that is nice, OK, but what's next? I'm annoyed seeing people shocked.
 
I was about to publish my proof of the Basel problem, but then I realized that I didn't want to go through the hassle of gaining permission from StackExchange to use my own damn intellectual property...
 
@mixedmath I don't know. Ramanujan was self-educated, and I don't wanna compare to him, of course, but this possiblity exists, he proved one can reaches very high peaks by self-education only.
 
What, @teadawg1337? Things on StackExchange are posted under a Creative Commons license. SE does not own what you post here.
 
@teadawg1337 what do you mean? Do you have your own proof to the Basel problem?
 
7:23 PM
@MikeMiller Oh, you're right.... I must have misread the legal info when I read it a couple of weeks ago...
Skimming through it now, don't see anything to justify my previous conclusion
@Chris'ssis It's not a "new" proof. I encountered Apostol's proof from the 1980's that used multivariable calculus, and I decided to reverse the order of integration. His was a simple two-page proof, I don't know how long mine would end up after being published
 
@teadawg1337 I see.
 
But while Apostol's proof used simple trigonometric "manipulation," I had to teach myself polylogarithms in order to prove my variant...
Also, nobody would believe that it's actually my work. I don't think my "findings" would have very much impact, either...
It's just not worth the hassle imo. All I can imagine is eventual humiliation
 
hmmm, I need to rewrite my proof to the first problem submitted by Ramanujan (I mean I wanna rewrite it to make it clearer - it uses high school tools only)
 
7:41 PM
@MikeMiller I have, after much hints and pushes, worked out the Hopf fibrations and how it looks like.
 
Sry
I am confused how inverse of A is helping in solving the system Ax=b where A is invertible? What is intuition behind this?
 
@Sry $X=A^{-1}B$
you can gain some intuition by working on some concrete example
$\begin{cases}x+2y=8\\3x+4y=6\end{cases}$
we can define two matrices $X$ and $B$
$$X=\pmatrix{x\\y}$$
and
$$B=\pmatrix{8\\6}$$
the coefficient matrix is
$$A=\pmatrix{1&2\\3&4}$$
the system of equations is equivalent to $AX=B$ because
$$\pmatrix{1&2\\3&4}\pmatrix{x\\y}=\pmatrix{x+2y\\3x+4y}=\pmatrix{8\\6}$$
which means $x+2y=8$ and $3x+4y=6$
the inverse of $A$ will help us because $$AA^{-1}=A^{-1}A=identity\ matrice=I$$
the same way we can multiply both sides of an equation by the same number we can multiply both sides of $AX=B$ by the same, matrice
$$AX=B\to A^{-1}A X=A^{-1}B\to IX=A^{-1}B$$
and what's the identity matrice times a given matrice? it's just that matrice, so $$IX=X=A^{-1}B$$ so if we compute $A^{-1}B$ we can solve for $X$
 
7:57 PM
Evening, people.
 
Hi @Lord_Farin
 
@Lord_Farin hella
 
Hello @evinda.
Did you manage to solve that set theory exercise?
 
Anyone else looking forward to the brutally cold week ahead?
 
no thanks @teadawg1337
 
8:03 PM
@BalarkaSen I was being sarcastic, I'm not looking forward to it at all. It's gonna be sub-freezing here until Sunday afternoon
 
@teadawg1337 where?
 
@Jorge Tennessee
 
I see, which is the state in the us with the coolest flag?
I think the flag of maryland is awesome
 
@JorgeFernández votes to close due to being primarily opinion-based
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I just looked at them and the only one I liked was maryland
I thought they where going to be cooler, I only knew california maryland and south carolina
 
8:08 PM
I quite like the California flag, although my opinion is somewhat skewed since I was born there
 
Sry
If B has full rank then why there exist a matrix X such that XA=I ( A and X are not necessarily square). Please help me with this.
 
The gadsden flag is my fav
 
anyone looking for a question to answer? math.stackexchange.com/questions/1093339/…
 
@LukeP why does that link directly to a comment I made on your question
 
Virginia obviously has the best flag.
And the best state motto.
 
8:15 PM
Oh it cause I got to the page by clicking on the notification that you commented, h.o.
 
@Lord_Farin I couldn't answer you, because of trouble with the internet connection
 
@Arkamis Obviously, "obviously" is the best word for hiding hidden premises, presumptions, opinions, and pages of work.
 
Can anyone help me with question 1 here? math.stackexchange.com/questions/1092514/…. I used the hint that David gave me in the answer to get cos(3x)+cos(x). I know i have to find 2cos(4x) in the LHS, so for the RHS, I am using 2cos(2x+2x), but then I will get a polynominal after expanding/cleaning things up after that. What do I do?
 
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Q: Rotating an object correctly when you can only rotate world axis.

LukePI am not sure if this question technically belongs here, but I think this is the best place for it on the Stack Exchange network. If there is somewhere else it should go, please let me know and I will remove it. So, I am using the Processing programming language to create an animation where a b...

oo thats cool
 
@evinda Such is life.
 
8:16 PM
@Lord_Farin That's true. But it's also the best word to use when your state flag has a bad-ass topless lady holding a sword over a vanquished foe, and when your motto translates to "Death always to tyrants."
 
is it against the guide lines to ask that stuff on here
 
@Arkamis "I know it when I see it."
 
Lol
 
@Lord_Farin I wanted to show that $n \subset m \rightarrow n \in m \lor n=m$.
The induction hypothesis is that $\forall n(n \subset m \rightarrow n \in m \lor n=m)$
We want to show that $n \subset m' \rightarrow n \in m \lor n=m'$
We assume that $n \subset m \cup \{m\}$ and we distinguish two cases for $n$: $n \subset m$ and $n \not\subset m$.
I have understood the case $n \subset m$.
For the other case:
We know that $n \subset m \cup \{m\}$ and we want to prove that $n=m'$.
So doesn't it suffice to show that $m \cup \{m\} \subset n$ ?
Hello @Huy
 
Huy
8:21 PM
hi
 
News? @Huy
 
Why is West Virginia a separate state from Virginia @Arkamis?
 
Huy
just got back from the cinema, after a lot of working yesterday and today
 
@Arkamis Well, it's better than my state flag: vlagonline.nl/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/vlag-gelderland.jpg
 
@Huy What film did you see?
 
Huy
8:23 PM
hunger games 3
 
@evinda That all seems correct to me.
 
@Alizter I did the Hopf map thing.
 
@Lord_Farin And how can we conclude that $m \subset n$ ?
@Huy Nice
 
@evinda You probably want to use the assumption that $n$ is an ordinal here.
I.e. that it is transitive, so that $m \in n \implies m \subset n$.
 
How could we use it? @Lord_Farin
@Huy How is the weather?
 
Huy
8:28 PM
@evinda: Been pretty good today. Very sunny mornings these days. Evening cold. That's most of what I get from days. :P
 
@Huy Aha!
 
@skullpatrol I don't know
 
Am I the only one for whom MSE is down right now?
 
Its working for me
 
nooo, I capped :'(
 
Huy
8:33 PM
@evinda: sorry im a bit lazy about typing because my hands hurt. ive got sore muscles from all the writing plus some badminton. :D
 
@JorgeFernández Make sure people accept your answers now :).
 
Hmmmm....
It doesn't seem to be working for me either
 
@Huy Ok :D
 
Now it's working
 
9:01 PM
@teadawg1337 Back for me as well.
 
9:27 PM
For me the LaTeX on this page math.stackexchange.com/questions/1092437/… isn't displaying correctly. Is it just me? Other questions are displayed correctly.
 
@OscarCunningham Broken. Apparently, one can't put superscripts on overline. ${\overline{T}}^{ij}$ works but $\overline{T}^{ij}$ doesn't.
 
@OscarCunningham you're right
 
Looks fine to me, @OscarCunningham.
 
Weird. Maybe it's SOUP userscript (which I don't use), or older MathJax in cache?
 
9:36 PM
Thanks for the response! It seems like it's working for some people and not others. Also, it was working for me earlier.
 
That's what I see
 
Maybe it's something they broke in MathJax 2.5 (compared to alpha).
I opened the page in Firefox; the formulas rendered. Hit F5 to refresh, they became broken.
 
@BalarkaSen Well done!
@KhallilBenyattou I just did two C1 papers in 1:30 with time to spare
 
@DavideCervone In this post, the construct $\overline{T}^i$ no longer renders. It seems that it worked previously. $\overline{T}_i$ still works. — Fundamental 1 min ago
 
@Fundamental Ah, the name game.
 
10:07 PM
OK, thanks. I'll look into it. There were changes to \overline and \underline for other reasons, and that will need to be fixed. In the meantime, you can use {\overline{T}}^2 if you want. — Davide Cervone 7 mins ago
I'll go edit the post.
 
10:26 PM
@Fundamental Thanks!
 
10:59 PM
Could I ask someone something about an algorithm?
 
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