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tony

8:28 AM

@Cerberus: Have you been mistaken for Joonas?

Cerberus

1:45 PM

@tony Ehh I don't know!

tony

4:18 PM

@Cerberus: It's not something that one would forget.

Cerberus

@tony You'd be surprised to know what things I forget!

Adam

6:19 PM

Having three heads and being canine probably helps with that some.

Canned Man

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Q: Were we being too harsh towards the second answerer of the ἅπτω question

I read through the comments for the second answer to luchonacho’s question, and I feel the user never received any welcome message or positive vibes from the community at all. I do not disagree with the answer being completely wrong, and have commented on the things I feel I could provide a quali...

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6:38 PM

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Q: Were we being too harsh towards the second answerer of the ἅπτω question

I read through the comments for the second answer to luchonacho’s question, and I feel the user never received any welcome message or positive vibes from the community at all. I do not disagree with the answer being completely wrong, and have commented on the things I feel I could provide a quali...

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Canned Man

Sorry for the double posting, I did not know that it would be posted automatically here; I thought it didn’t since nothing happened the first few minutes or so.

Canned Man

8:03 PM

Working with Ambrose all day has gone quite well, though I am now stuck on a simple question: Quid illud quod morī nōn timuit? Immō prō omnibus sē obtulit dīcēns quod frūstrā propter sē aliī perīclitārentur: sibīque potius mortem optābat, nē ipse aliīs causa mortis esset.
Very verbatim:
What/Which that which he did not fear to die? Quite the opposite: For everyone himself he offered, saying that for no purpose because of / by means of / through himself others were put in danger: and for himself instead/rather death he chose, not himself for others to have been the cause of death.

Rewritten to normal English: What/Which [thing? -> fact?] that he did not fear to die? Quite the opposite: He offered himself for everyone, saying that for no purpose others were put in danger because of himself: and for himself he rather chose death, for fear that he himself would have been the cause of death for others.

Johhan Santana

Live with power = CUM POTESTATEM VIVIT ?

Or imperative VIVE CUM POTESTATEM

Cool! VIVE is the same as in Spanish vive con poder.

Well, except that you pronounce it VIIVE

Canned Man

8:25 PM

You mean a long /i:/?

Except the /v/ rather than /w/ pronunciation of Classical Latin, it is indeed the same.

Could one perhaps use the ablative?

Joonas Ilmavirta

9:37 PM

@CannedMan No worries! The system has a number of unintuitive delays.

Thanks for bringing it up! I hope my view doesn't come across too cynical.

Canned Man

No, indeed, as expected from you it is grounded, factual and helpful.

Joonas Ilmavirta

@CannedMan For the lack of a better word, quid illud quod might be better treated as a "phrasal cluster". Much like the French qu'est-ce que il y a should not be analyzed as "what is it that it has there" but "what is it".

@CannedMan Thanks!

Canned Man

What exactly is going on grammatically then?

Joonas Ilmavirta

Good question! Please ask a question on that. That deserves proper analysis in front of all eyes.

Canned Man

Right, will do!

Joonas Ilmavirta

9:45 PM

Literally it seems to be quid [est] illud quod, a relatively simple relative clause, but understanding and translating (in that order!) quid and quod well is hard.

Canned Man

10:02 PM

I hope you do not mind me quoting from this conversation … but I will still ask first.

Do you?

Canned Man

10:39 PM

I will take my chances; I am sure a re-write will be possible if need be.

Johhan Santana

11:11 PM

@CannedMan yeah Ī

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