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7:00 PM
Well in my case I am looking at the divergence of a vector field X.
So I define this normally with a volume form.
But the claim is that it is invariant in the local volume form I choose because the divergence is just the "trace of the linearisation of X".
 
Exam went well yesterday. They did call me once, but that was really a non-issue. Just a student wondering whether I really did mean to write $\sigma^{-1}$ when I asked them to find a $\gamma$ such that $\gamma\sigma\gamma^{-1} = \sigma^{-1}$. And yes, I really did mean that, since otherwise the exercise would be trivial.
 
In the same paper there is mention that $d(\alpha(X))_x = \alpha_x\circ A_x$ for a (contact) 1-form $\alpha$, a contact vector field $X$, and its linearisation at $x$, $L_x$.
 
@TobiasKildetoft it’d just be “find an element that commutes with sigma”, so yeah
 
@Semiclassical Right, and I really did not want the identity to be an option
 
Oof, yeah
 
7:04 PM
@TobiasKildetoft just choose a sigma in the 2-torsion :P
 
It is not like this was a hard exercise anyway, since they had already written $\sigma$ as a product of disjoint permutations in a previous part
 
right
 
And the book has the formula for what happens when you conjugate a cycle
 
Were they given a particular sigma?
 
Yeah
Tomorrow the grading starts. 93 students did the exam, so lots of work to do
 
7:06 PM
Godspeed
 
well our year has like 2XX people
and we sat 4 tests
 
*Gradespeed
 
two of the students handed in 25 pages each. I hope this is because they used a new page for each subquestion, but I didn't open the envelopes to check yet
 
Daaaang
 
@user193319 suppose it is, pick a point $x$ and a compact neighbourhood of said point, project the nbhd down to the different $\Bbb R$s, what happens?
 
7:09 PM
That is a huge amount of material to grade
 
@Semiclassical As I said, hopefully they just wasted a bunch of paper. I mean, I don't see how you could meaningfully write 25 pages in just 4 hours by hand
 
@anakhronizein I am not sure... I’ve never seen that before.
 
Oh that does not sound fun
 
25 pages is 2 many pages
 
I will keep exploring on google then, thanks anyways!
 
7:13 PM
"25 = 2" - Eric Silva, 2018
 
indeed
 
(not clickbait)
 
<--- is a crank
 
@EricSilva Actually one student did hand in just 2 pages. Which means it is either great or terrible
 
that's a lot of variance
 
7:14 PM
Most seem to have used 4-6 pages, which is about what I would expect
 
What topic(s) was the test about?
 
@TobiasKildetoft What subject, group theory?
 
Interesting proof of Poincare's lemma: Say $\omega$ is a closed $k$-form on a ball $B$ centered at 0 in $\Bbb R^n$. Consider the flow $f_t : \Bbb R^n \to \Bbb R^n$ such that $f_t(x) = e^{-t} x$, which preserves the ball. This gives rise to a vector field $X$ on $\Bbb R^n$.
Define $F(\eta) = \int_0^\infty f_t^* \eta dt$. Then $F(\mathcal{L}_X \omega) = \omega$. By Cartan's magic formula, $\omega = F(d \iota_X \omega) + F(\iota_X d\omega)$. The second term vanishes as $\omega$ is closed; $F$ and $d$ commutes by differentiation under the integral sign. So $\omega = d(F(\iota_X \omega))$.
 
more like, introduction to group theory via permutations
 
@AlessandroCodenotti algebra. One question on CRT, one on permutations, one on rings (and unique factorization), and one on Sylow theory with a bit of representation theory
 
7:16 PM
nvm
 
I see, sounds cool
 
What are $\gamma$ and $\sigma$?
 
$F$ is a cool operator. It's kind of like averaging $\eta$ over the flowlines
 
@AkivaWeinberger They had been given the permutation $\sigma$ and were asked to find such a $\gamma$
 
7:19 PM
Hello, is it true: $f:X\to R$ is not bouded from bellow means that there exists $u_n\in X$ such that $||u_n||\to+\infty$ implies that $f(u_n)\to-\infty$ ?
 
@TobiasKildetoft right
 
@AkivaWeinberger hello how are you ?
 
@Vrouvrou I think you mean "and" instead of "implies that"
And I think that's right
 
yes
and
thank you for the answer
 
@Akiva Did you check out Trout Mask Replica?
 
7:23 PM
but you are fine ?
 
Yeah
@BalarkaSen No
 
@Vrouvrou I'm in finals week, a little stressful
Er, weeks. Finals fortnight?
 
good luck for you
 
Hey everyone
 
7:26 PM
Heyup
Currently I am on train
 
@BalarkaSen isnt this the normal proof
 
Either in or on, I'll let you guess which
 
it's certainly how i do it
 
@EricSilva hm, is it? i guess
my proof is H_{sing}^k(R^n) = 0 looool
 
i use any excuse to invoke my bud the magic boi
 
7:27 PM
i like this proof
 
H_{♫sing♫}
 
H_{I CANNOT GO BACK TO YOUR PROUD LAAAAND}
i love this album so much
 
H_{covers ears}
 
H_{this is real music}
 
im 13 and this is REAL music
 
7:30 PM
"Floral Shoppe フローラルの専門店" by Macintosh Plus is the best music because it's the only album i have listened to
 
what is that
 
the first popular v a p o r w a v e album
 
oh right
i think i actually like vaporwave
 
me too
i mean it's just slowed down 80's elevator music but it's nice
lol
 
i thought it was like a joke but it's just not bad
 
7:34 PM
yep
 
ugh i need to read heat boiz
 
@BalarkaSen The Japanese word for "floral" is "furouraru"?
(I mean, they took it from English?)
 
idk man thats what the album label says
its a e s t h e t i c c
 
It's the word "floral" written in Japanese letters
 
I see you've turned crap music into a homology functor?
 
7:37 PM
Heh... you said "functor" hehehee
 
@TedShifrin Trout Mask Replica is great music
 
DogAteMy is removing me? :)
 
ME NO TYPE GüD
also, it seems that I am so allergic to the idea of a functor that I type "function" every time I try to type "functor"
(it happened four times in writing out the above sentence)
 
You're just in your own category, @Xander.
 
7:40 PM
I need to learn category theory someday
 
you might need more time
 
Whoops, typo
Not today
 
damn ninja edit
now my comment makes no sense but that's ok
 
Someday in the far future
 
Eric, we rarely make sense in here.
 
7:42 PM
We're rarely if ever expressible as the ratio of integers, after all
 
You've renounced your position as an algebraic integer?
 
Hello everyone!
 
sup nerd
 
I am not a Liouville number
 
Ah, the chief irrational one shows up on cue.
 
7:45 PM
Or a Thoreau number @BalarkaSen
 
I love Walden Pond.
 
the writing or the place
 
Yes.
 
lol
 
With "Pond" in there it's really only the place.
 
7:47 PM
i guess
idk if i like thoreau
idk if i dislike thoreau either
 
Well, what about the existentialists?
 
I'm not sure if I like Gödel; I have a sort of incomplete view of him
(ba-dum tlachp)
 
Neon meat dream of an octopus
- Beefheart
pure poetry
 
i like some existentialists ive read but i havent read that much work by existentialists
i remember reading walden and not being excited
 
i dont like sartre
 
7:51 PM
$\exists$
 
$\nexists$
 
I spent high school and the beginning of college loving Sartre and Camus.
 
i like camus
 
If you love doing mathematics, you have to respect Sisyphus.
 
I am in the Dostoyevsky and Kafka clan
 
7:52 PM
I haven't read the Russians enough to comment.
Yeah, Balarka does often wake up only to find himself transmogrified into a beetle waving his legs in the air.
 
i think i dont know if i like many of the "classic" american authors
i always am left unexcited by the """"""great"""""" works
 
eg?
 
idk the general stuff people put on high school syllabi
 
I read "The Trial" by Kafka and quite liked it
 
7:53 PM
I like The Trial
 
like walden lol
 
waits for Demonark to make one of his usual crummy puns
 
@Eric I don't know the American high school syllabi
 
I'm not sure you have to be excited by literature to appreciate it, Eric.
 
I like Catch-22
 
7:54 PM
by excited i dont mean excited
 
We read Silas Marner :(
 
Hey @TedShifrin :)
 
Hard not to find Shakespeare exciting — we read a bunch of his plays.
 
i just mean i havent felt like ive gotten much out of it
 
hi Perturbative
 
7:55 PM
@Ted i like shakespeare like a lot
 
@TedShifrin Yeah we have to read Shakespeare too.
I don't like him
 
Does anyone here define their one-point compactifications using disjoint unions?
 
Excuse me Ted but my puns are high quality
 
My first college French literature course was on the poetry of Baudelaire and Nerval. That was eye-opening.
 
@BalarkaSen the man has sick flow
 
7:55 PM
@Perturbative: Well, you have to throw in a point, so ...
 
@EricSilva I feel his plays are mostly unexciting compared to his contemporary European writers like Dante or Cervantes
 
@EricSilva He makes the heat flow badum tss
 
@BalarkaSen so like moby dick, scarlet letter, anything by twain
i dont think shakespeare is good for writing good plays
 
I don't dislike Mark Twain
 
i think he's good because he spits like fire
 
7:57 PM
meh
 
his bars are mad
 
never been a fan of rap :)
 
see ive always been a huge fan of rap
 
yup
 
so maybe that's well correlated with me liking shakespeare
 
7:58 PM
uh-huh
 
I see we've reverted to the bad music homology functor.
 
i mean i think both of the writers you mentioned write better things but they're also not writing in english, shakespeare is eminently english and that's an important thing
@TedShifrin not a fan of elitism in music
 
Does one really need to define $X^*$ as $X^* = X \sqcup \{\infty\}$ as opposed to just a normal union?
 
@Perturbative: Right. You need to add a point at infinity, so of course you have to talk about that point.
 
7:59 PM
well english is not really my native tounge so i dont care much
 
@EricSilva Gatsby, for example?
 
i am not very fascinated by the language
 
i hate gatsby
 
My musical tastes are very "old-fashioned," Eric. Classical and folk. And that's about it.
 
@Perturbative What's the difference?
 
7:59 PM
that doesnt make other things bad tho :P
 
Game soundtracks are the best music
 
They're just emphasizing that this $\infty$ point is not in $X$
 
I always thought Irish people wrote better English than the English people themselves, because it's so weird
 
What DogAteMy said ...
 
Joseph Conrad is fun to read because of the total weirdness of the text
 
the content becomes more important and the narrative is without a lot of fancy beautification
 
@AkivaWeinberger There's some pedantic issue in the way the author defines a disjoint union (see here : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disjoint_union#Set_theory_definition)
 
@BalarkaSen conrad makes me feel weird
 
love em
 
@Akiva this is amazing
 
8:02 PM
@Perturbative: That's done in case you want to define disjoint union of a set with itself (or with another set having overlapping elements).
 
Heart of Darkness is a really jarring novella
 
@Perturbative We don't care; this is topology, we only care about stuff up to homeomorphism. In fact,
 
i obviously tend to read a lot of lit from a staunchly anti-colonial pov so it always makes me feel weird
that isnt to say that reading things like that can be good
 
@Eric yeah that's the Chinua Achebe argument
 
but still weird feelings
yeah i mean i am a big big big achebe fan
 
8:03 PM
Wow, most of this literary discussion is way over my head.
 
since it's only $X\sqcup\{\infty\}$ in the set-theoretic sense, we just care about it up to bijection.
 
Usually it's just the math :)
 
i reread the african trilogy last month and it made me feel a lot of things
 
I actually like Achebe! I recently read "Things Fall Apart"
 
@Daminark Lemme see if I can find the full concert it's from
 
8:04 PM
@TedShifrin we're edgy kids who have read a lot of stuff to be edgy lol
 
idt im particularly edgy i just like reading books that fall out of the mainstream
 
DogAteMy: Did you have another snow day for school?
 
@Daminark You should listen to Trout Mask Replica
 
because a lot of things about my life happen to fall out of the mainstream by circumstance
 
8:05 PM
There's nothing shameful about any of that, Eric.
 
@Eric fair.
 
@Balarka im actually weirdly into nigerian lit on the whole
a lot of really good english language writers
 
@Akiva I will probably play this as background for my psets
 
achebe being like the granddaddy of the whole thing
 
unsurprisingly. everyone else speaks better english than the english people
 
8:06 PM
Ah, Eric is going to be concentrating on "shithole" literature. ... Quoting someone of no consequence.
 
@Balarka aight
 
lmao
@TedShifrin that comment actually made me so mad i wanted to break something, like i was furious
well i still am
 
@Eric how much Ergodic theory did Smart do with you guys?
 
I was past furious.
 
none @Daminark
 
8:07 PM
Who said that??
 
at least idts
@Balarka who do u think
 
@Balarka: You really didn't hear that in your press?
 
the trumpet or someone of his clan?
 
Chief idiot and bottlewasher.
 
@TedShifrin Nah, just finals
 
8:08 PM
@Daminark we mightve actually done like a bunch but i didnt go to class that much
 
Two finals today, actually, which is strange
 
Ohhhh. Your penultimate ones of those 'til college, DogAteMy :)
 
@TedShifrin I did not hear this at all.
 
You excited to be moving on, DogAteMy?
 
8:08 PM
What a fuckhead
 
And now his doctor is lying about his medical exam, too, Balarka.
Or so I definitely believe.
 
What do you expect, he's a shithole president
 
@Eric lel
 
@Balarka ive started rereading a bunch of stuff actually, currently rereading marquez and going to move onto borgia soon after
not just achebe
 
Good thing Eric was never my student. I would have growled at his missing classes....
 
8:12 PM
@EricSilva Marquez is 100/10
 
lol i used to miss class a loooooot
i super agree
 
I love Spanish surrealism so much
Borges, Marquez, Paz, ...
 
marquez and borgia are hands down my favs
 
I love Almodovar's movies ...
 
jesus
borges
dumb phone
 
8:13 PM
lol
 
Paging Lucretia ...
 
LMAO
good meme
 
@TedShifrin tbf though i dont miss classes where i wouldnt do well regardless
 
@Eric I like to say that Borges's Labyrinths, Dostoyevsky's "Notes from the Underground" and Eliot's The Waste Land are respectively my versions of Quran, Bible and Upanishad
 
8:16 PM
lol
ive never read dostoyevsky
 
Borges and Eliot were actually very much influenced from Quran and Upanishad, respectively
so its kinda fitting
 
I once tried to read Dr. Zhivago (Pasternak) and gave up.
But Balarka wouldn't read it, anyhow. It's romantic drivel :P
 
i feel like none of the top tier latin american writers are brazilians
there's not much good portuguese reading that's like marquez level
 
@TedShifrin "Notes" is a romance novel :)
 
Oh.
 
8:18 PM
in the same way The Fly is a romantic comedy film
lol
 
What's the Upanishad
 
(by that I mean it's edgier than pure Romance)
 
A religious text of some species, sounds like
 
@Akiva Ancient Sanskrit texts, part of the Vedas
 
I'm not sure whether I saw The Fly or not.
 
8:19 PM
Ah
 
they fall in the category of Hindu religious texts
i guess
 
You can make a r
 
@TedShifrin It's a good movie
 
@balarka i read some of the upanishads my first year but i dont really remember anything
 
But only if you like a Freudian take on love and aging
 
8:21 PM
@BalarkaSen works for me, though there’s also a solid thread of Western lit in The Waste Land (Dante, the grail quest, Tiresias etc)
 
otherwise it's a neat sci-fi hollywood
@Semiclassical Haha true
I couldn't make it the Bible because Dostoyevsky was taking that place for me
lol
 
eligion out of this
 
So it’s sorta a collision of east/west
 
I honestly expected someone to finish that quote
 
@EricSilva I don't know a lot of Upanishad.
 
8:23 PM
And, heck, the third section is The Fire Sermon and the fifth is What The Thunder Said
 
there's a copy flying around in my father's bookshelves
 
there was this period of my life where i was reading a bunch of ancient religious stuff but it's all a blur now for reasons
 
@Semiclassical TWL is so full of references from everywhere that's it hard to mark it down as _______ influenced
 
Eliot was very much into Christian philosophy I think
personally
 
8:24 PM
“These fragments I have shored against my ruins”
Is a pretty good summary of the poem’s relation to east/west as a whole
 
true
 
@BalarkaSen yes, though more so in his later work
 
Right, I was reading "The Journey of The Magi" this Christmas
rereading rather
 
When you say The Fly do you mean the 1958 one or the Cronenberg one?
 
Cronenberg one!
 
8:28 PM
there's a the fly that isnt the cronenberg one?
TIL
 
1958's thing is fun to watch
@Eric yeah that's what inspired Cronenberg to make his version
he completely changed the plot of course
 
@EricSilva Cronenberg's one is a remake
 
<-- knows precious little about film
 
More like they are inspired by the same short story tbf
 
ah yes
 
8:29 PM
Eliot references to the mysticism of St John of the Cross and Julian of Norwich in his later work
 
@Eric i mostly get to know about stuff by obsessing over certain directors
lol
reminds me that I still haven't finished Cronenberg's novel
it made me sick when i was like halfway through
 
@BalarkaSen the usual marking point in that regard is Ash Wednesday
 
Ah yes
 
With the Ariel poems coming after that, including Journey
I think
 
True
I think that is right
 
8:35 PM
And eventually you have Eliot writing verse for a Christian pageant (Choruses from ‘The Rock’) which is explicitly Christian
 
hmm i havent seen those
 
Yeah
My book of Eliot’s collected works included that, along with a few of his plays
there’s a lot that can be said of Eliot’s religiosity, though, and I won’t try to sum it up from vague memory
 
I only have the selected poems that Eliot published himself
 
Returning to the Eastern influence, though, there’s a section from Four Quartets which is an extended reference to the Bhagavad Gita
I think section 2 of The Dry Salvages? Maybe section 3
Okay, yeah, section 3
 
If $f:A \to B$ is a split monomorphism of rings, does it follow that the preimage of a maximal ideal is a maximal ideal?
 
8:45 PM
Of course, how a Western Christian poet interprets/applies the Bhagavad Gita is different from how a Hindu would, so one shouldn’t overstate it
But that section is definitely in dialogue with BG
 
I have to read Four Quartets again
i haven't carefully digested it
 
Yeah
It takes a while
 
im reposting from hbar because it's so fucking beautiful
 
Let it be know it was I, Bernhard of Hbar, the finder of this Memé
 
Fuck you weren't supposed to know that I stole the meme
you Brazillian stalker
 
8:55 PM
You bloody well told me you stole it you irreverent thingamabob
 
I have demensia
i forgot how to spell dementia
gr8
 

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