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16:00
And you'll note that that has $S=kx-\omega t$, so $J/\rho = \frac{1}{m}\frac{\partial S}{\partial x}=\frac{k}{m}$
okay, $\omega^2$?
never mind :P
And since $\rho=\sqrt{R}=1$ in that case, you'll have $J=k/m$ i.e. a constant probability current
(I was thinking in oscillations)
16:02
The reason is actually rather natural: In a scattering experiment, you're typically sending in a bunch of particles rather than just one
Hence why you can describe it as a plane wave rather than a wave packet
ah okay
I'm roasted:P
So it shouldn't be surprising that you have to keep 'injecting' probability density, i.e. events, into the system. if you stop shooting particles in, you'll stop getting transmission and reflection
that makes sense
Bottom line is that, when you do bound states, you can assume $J=0$ at infinity without any issue.
But when you do scattering, you definitely -can't-.
(Scattering is a bit weird like that. Physicists definitely play fast-and-loose with the justifications for those problems.)
haha, right, that's easy to remember
it's intuitive, in a way
16:05
The rules don't entirely go out the window, though.
When you do scattering, you'll find that $J_{in}=J_{reflected}+J_{transmitted}$.
There's still an version of conservation of probability. But it's in terms of the relative fluxes: Each particle I send in is either transmitted or reflected, and the probabilities of those two events will add to 1.
right.. sorry that I can't really ask anything substantial anymore:P I'm justing taking what you say as "truth" at this point
lol
One weird thing this leads to is that you don't 'normalize' wavefunctions in scattering problems like you would in bound state problems.
It's a lot more arbitrary.
(Which actually can come in handy for problem-solving if you're clever, but that takes practice and experience.)
yea, well that's far ahead of me. I have to understand stationary states first:P
lol
You definitely will run into scattering states, though. No way you'll miss that.
It doesn't show up until chapter 2, though.
well chapter 1 nothing, chapter 2 is huge
lol, the last chapter is apparently called "Scattering"
gotta eat something now tho!
16:12
well, the scattering stuff in chapter 2 is in section 2.5
but that's scattering in 1D. scattering in 3D is the last chapter and is haaard
ah yea I see
:'(
It's pretty brutal.
TEDDDDDDD
Where are you!?
hello math people!
@TedShifrin a man here is looking for you
16:22
@TedShifrin So, I got the call today from Queens. He sort of stumbled around his words and lied and said that it had to do with documents coming in after the deadline (they reviewed my high school that came in on the 10th but not my ILC that came in on the third.) He then recommended I pay another 160 dollars to apply to do part time studies, which would also set me back half a year. Another strange thing is that my phone did not ring. Instead it just popped up saying I had a voicemail.
wait for 20 minutes more!
he will be there I think from my statistic thinkng!
:)
@TedShifrin I called back and told him that I know for a fact that they didn't see my ILC on my application and then only looked at my highschool and that there was no way I was going to pay another 100 dollars. Of course, all calls go straight to voicemail so I had to leave a message. I am now contacting his boss to see what she can do.
Hey everyone!
Hey manny vaughn
16:24
BALARKA!
How's it going you rebel.
still working on revolution
@BalarkaSen got any more books? ;-)
That's revolting.
16:25
@Daminark Hey~
only as long as you use a revolver
@BalarkaSen Hey
How's it going everyone?
i'll just give everyone the plague. Then we will all be very revolting.
16:27
so you say you want a revolution, oh well, you know
@BalarkaSen i meant mathematical books
but revolting is so much woork
:P
balarka is banned again
No way.
i'm sure the one person flagging him repeatedly feels great pride
16:30
He better not be banned again.
i hope not
that'd suck
You're joking, right?
This frivolous flagging epidemic needs to stop
Who could possibly be flagging him.
We are all friends!
Zee
Zee
You can ban people here?
16:31
Did you guys watch my youtube video, I've never seen the movie but it's pretty hilarious I might have to watch it.
Zee
Zee
Am surprised am still here...
I'll just say this guys, if you keep flagging Balarka and he keeps getting banned, he won't come back.
@demonark well then knock it off.
And we'll lose one of the best mathematical talents, and most wonderful people I've ever had the opportunity of meeting.
Somehow the person who keeps doing it is likely not to be disappointed
@Duck riight... yeah sure
16:33
well you are a demon
I'm a demon with morals!
Zee
Zee
That's literally just an angel
but demonic morals are things like hatred and greediness
We should all post in the meta and let the mods know that the flagging is getting out of hand!
sounds good to me
who wants to write the question?
Zee
Zee
16:37
I think dodsy is the one doing the flagging
that would make sense
he's new here
what would be ironic and kind of funny is if balarka has been flagging themselves, deleting the comment, and then going away for an hour just to prank us.
balarka come here
Yo chat
Zee
Zee
Wassup my man
Hey @Astyx
16:41
How are you all ?
Doing alright, how about you?
Zee
Zee
I suppose daminark now speak for us all
I'm good thanks
Zee
Zee
That's cool with me :p
16:42
I finished my peaceful run by the way
It has been decided that everyone is doing alright! :D
Ah, how'd you like the Asriel revelation?
if you guys want to talk to balarka we are over here: mse4me.chatovod.com
Like, the plottwist ?
It made sense and was pretty good
Zee
Zee
Removed
Can someone help me with this small problem?How do I simplify 2^{ln3/ln2} to get the answer=3?
16:53
Duck that was a dirty trick.
@Tatan $a^{x} = e^{x\ln(a)}$
@Dodsy what was?
@Dodsy did balarka say I banned them or something? I didn't think he was back yet.
@DanielFischer Hi, so there has been multiple totally ridiculous flags going on in here for some days. I was the target of one yesterday and got banned on a particularly harmless joke but I shrugged it off as amusing. Today I got flagged and banned for a really non-offensive comment. So I thought I'd report it to you.
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Hello @Abhishekstudent
17:00
I would appreciate it if you'd investigate the flag logs.
Guys, they always say that a differential equation is an equation involving a function and its derivatives - but shouldn't we say that it involves a functions and its derivatives, and possibly the independent variable?
is $x^3$ a polynomial
Yo @Sha, @Balarka
hi @Astyx
17:01
or does it need to have all the powers
@Abhis yea that's a polynomial
Zee
Zee
Ya it's a poly
@BalarkaSen good idea
@Sha Not really, the independant variable does not have much meaning, it's an equation of functions
17:03
oh I think I know why I got confused
Balarka is back!
I saw this
hm actually
That's equivalent to $F(y, y') = 0$ in some sense
yay!
@BalarkaSen what's up man?
oh, how then? @Astyx
17:04
Well you can equivalently write $y(x)f(x) + y'(x) g(x) = h(x)$ and $yf+y'g=h$
@BalarkaSen Well, that sucks.
I think it's just hate-flagging by someone dumb
perhaps
Me too.
@Balarka can't moderators see who did it?
17:06
Yeah I think they can
They can.
That's why I pinged a moderator.
can someone just flag and ban you though? I thought flags had to have some merit behind them or they get refused...?
(unless 5 people are simultaneously flagging, which then indicates an actual problem)
hm not sure if I understand where this $f,g,h$ comes from @Astyx
Just 10k users approve them
Zee
Zee
17:07
There is 2 balarka
so we're looking for a 10K user with a grudge.
Zee
Zee
I think the one without sen is a spy
@Sha These are just other functions
@Zee what are you talking about?
17:08
so the functions don't matter in solving for $y$?
The mods will sort it out, perhaps stop speculating for now ?
@Sha Of course they do ! They define the differential equation
Yeah better to just leave it now. I'm going through the worst shit over here boys and girls.
Zee
Zee
Roger that
17:09
ugh, I hate this. haven't had it properly at school, but I'm still supposed to solve them. I guess I should just try more examples first @Astyx
@Dodsy what's wrong?
Shitty admissions practices that aren't getting me anywhere and I'm being shafted.
@Sha You should get used to them yeah
@ShaVuklia Start with easy things. Constant coefficients, for example.
17:12
First order differential equations with constant coefficients are not that interresting :p
Of course not. But it doesn't hurt to start at the bottom and move up at your own pace.
@TheGreatDuck Whereabouts in the states are you from, Duck.
colorado
why?
Of course @Steamy
Oh just wondering.
Zee
Zee
17:13
I should be doing math right now...
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ookay
@Dodsy how'd you know I was in the states?
I read so earlier when you were speaking of the trump administration.
wait actually
maybe I'm just too lazy
I'll try to solve it my own
@SteamyRoot excellent advice :-)
@Dodsy oh. fair enough.
17:16
oh okay, it was not that hard. didn't see it first
@SteamyRoot Like with piano, everyone wants to play a Chopin piece, but you have to learn row your boat first.
I thought you said 'to row your boat' at first
Lol so did I
It didn't even shock me
Learn to row boats before doing a piano, kids.
17:32
Hi chat
Yo Alessandro
are you happy?
about?
17:34
math of course?
sorta, are you?
i am happier with physics.
Hello
i am happier with biology
;)
17:38
how so?
I was quite happy with biology when in high school.
So this is just a casual chat?
@Espinoza We talk about math and about posts on here
But mostly share cool math things
talk about homework
but I am happier with physics than biology when university because biology in university includes overwhelming professional terms.
17:40
@Espinoza Sometimes we actually talk about maths
That's great.
Yeah it's pretty casual
and Ted Shifrin comes here all the time.
Sanity check: an entire function has a power series at any point with infinite radius of convergence, right?
how do we chat about math here? can math symbols by typed here?
I have a cool question if anyone's interrested : Let $G$ be a finite group. Prove that the probability of two randomly chosen elements commute is $1$ or less than $5/8$
@Captain See Latex inchat url on the chat description
In the top right
17:43
@AlessandroCodenotti Yes. The radius of convergence of a meromorphic function is the largest disc you can draw until you hit a pole.
@MikeMiller thought so, thanks for confirming
@BalarkaSen That sucks. Unfortunately, as far as I know there's no way for me to find out a) who raised and b) who validated those flags, so no idea whom I should have a word with.
17:59
Hi @DanielF @Alessandro @Astyx @Balarka @Dodsy
I think it's more or less community knowledge who was raising the flags, @DanielFischer, but of course that's not actionable. I think the implicit general question here is "If I continue to be flagged and banned for things I consider harmless, and I think this is done to inflict harm, is there somoeone I can/should talk to about this?"
Yo @Ted

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