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3:00 PM
Hello!!! Happy New Year!!!

When we have a differentiable function $f(x) \geq 0, \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$, does it stand that $f'(x) \geq 0, \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$ ??
 
Huy
@evinda: Don't you know the function $f(x)$ with $f'(x) = \frac{1}{\sqrt{1-x^2}}$ by heart?
@MaryStar: $f(x) = e^{-x^2}$.
 
@Huy Is it $arc \sin x$? But how could I continue to calculate it?
 
Huy
@MaryStar: Or even simpler, look at $f(x) = e^{-x}$.
@evinda: What is $\frac{x}{|x|}$?
 
@Huy $\frac{x}{|x|}=\pm 1$ right?
 
Huy
@evinda: Did you already come across the signum function?
 
3:05 PM
@Huy We have that $f(x)=g(x)-h(x)$, so to give a counterexample do we set $g(x)=e^{-x}$ and $h(x)=0$ ??
 
Huy
@MaryStar: Sure.
 
@Huy Yes, so is it like that? $\int \frac{\cos y}{|\cos y|} dy=\int \frac{\cos y}{\cos y sgn(y)} dy=\int \frac{1}{sgn(y)}dy$? If so, how can we continue?
 
@Huy Ok!! Thank you very much!! :-)
 
@Huy Do you have an idea?
 
Huy
@evinda: $\frac{1}{\operatorname{sgn}(x)} = \operatorname{sgn}(x)$ and $(|x|)' = \operatorname{sgn}(x)$.
 
3:19 PM
$\int \frac{\cos y}{|\cos y|} dy=\int \frac{\cos y}{\cos y sgn(y)} dy=\int \frac{1}{sgn(y)}dy=\int \sgn(y)dy=|y|+c=|\arcsin y|+c$
So is it like that @Huy ?
There shouldn't be the absolute value, right @Huy ? So have I done something wrong?
 
Hi @Mary,
Hi @evinda!
You might have learned that my real name is Amy ;-)
And of course, hi @Huy. Certainly didn't intend to leave you out!
 
3:35 PM
@amWhy Hi Amy!! Happy New Year!! :-)
 
Hello @amWhy!!! Beatiful name!!!
 
Happy New Year, @Mary. Yes, I thought my username was a bit clever ;-)
 
Yes it is @amWhy
Do you teach at a university @amWhy ?
 
Yes I do. Mainly undergrads, but at least one grad class a year.
Oops...My "late" breakfast is ready. I'll check in later. It's been awhile since I've been in chat!
 
Which is your field? @amWhy
@amWhy A ok :)
Hello @JorgeFernández
Happy new year!!!
 
3:44 PM
@robjohn I worked a lot for going this way. The point is that without publishing some articles before, it's hard to publish a book, I mean it's about your activity as a mathematician until you publish it. With my latest work I'm able to write a very nice book. Sometimes it seems unreal to be that I managed to go that far, but with much passion and extremely hard work there is no limit.
 
@evinda Thank you,I wish you the best in 2015.
 
@JorgeFernández Thank you :)
 
Extremely hard work - for succeeding in anything .
 
4:02 PM
This one looks pretty cool
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Q: A fractional part integral giving $\frac{F_{n-1}}{F_n}-\frac{(-1)^n}{F_n^2}\ln\left(\!\frac{F_{n+2}-F_n\gamma}{F_{n+1}-F_n\gamma}\right)$

Olivier OloaI've been asked to elaborate on the following evaluation $$ \begin{align}\\ \displaystyle \int_0^{1} \!\cfrac 1 {1 + \cfrac 1 {1 + \cfrac 1 {\ddots + \cfrac 1 { 1 + \psi (\left\{1/x\right\}+1)}}}} \mathrm{d}x & = \dfrac{F_{n-1}}{F_{n}} - \dfrac{(-1)^{n}}{F_{n}^2} \ln \!\left(\!\dfrac{F_...

 
4:17 PM
Basically all is done elementarily (when decomposing the work) although at first sight it seems like a very complicated job.
 
How could I show that $\sin^2(x)=\frac{1}{2}(1-\cos(2x)), \forall x \in \mathbb{R}$ using the Cauchy-product??
 
Huy
@MaryStar: $\sin(x) = \sum_{k=0}^\infty (-1)^k \frac{x^{2k+1}}{(2k+1)!}$.
@evinda: I'm a bit busy and preparing to go out for dinner soon, did you solve it?
 
@Huy No, I didn't... :)
 
Huy
@evinda: I'll be back in 2-3 hours, if you're still around then. =)
 
@PedroTamaroff need your attention real quick
math.stackexchange.com/questions/1087614/… There's a serious error in the answers to this question, I'm right (by luck) but the answer is 1 not 0.
 
4:31 PM
@Huy So, should it be as followed??

$$\sin^2(x) = \sum_{k=0}^\infty (-1)^k \frac{x^{2k+1}}{(2k+1)!}\cdot \sum_{k=0}^\infty (-1)^k \frac{x^{2k+1}}{(2k+1)!}=\sum_{k=0}^\infty \sum_{i+j=k}(-1)^i \frac{x^{2i+1}}{(2i+1)!}(-1)^j \frac{x^{2j+1}}{(2j+1)!}=\sum_{k=0}^\infty \sum_{i+j=k}(-1)^{i+j} \frac{x^{2(i+j)+2}}{(2i+1)!(2j+1)!}$$
 
Huy
@MaryStar: I thought you wanted to use the Cauchy product?
 
@Huy Of course I will :D Have a nice time!!!
 
@Huy Isn't the Cauchy product used at the second equality??
 
Let $a, b \in \mathbb{Z}, b \neq 0$. How could we show that:
a div b = ⌈a/b⌉ ,if b < 0
Could you give me a hint?
 
Hi.
 
4:45 PM
Hi @JasperLoy
@JasperLoy Happy new year
 
@evinda Happy new year. I am sad though. I need to figure out how to best live the rest of my life now.
 
What options are there? @JasperLoy
 
@evinda I don't know. I need to get well from my OCD first, which is what I have been trying to do. I have not been working for 7 years.
 
Aha @JasperLoy Do you want to find a job?
 
@evinda I might try to find one before going back to study more math. We'll see.
Each year I try to get better and get well enough, but each year bad things happen and I am back to square one. It is very miserable.
@Chris'ssis Hope your book is published this year.
 
4:55 PM
I note that there are less than 100 questions tagged Type Theory; are there few people on this site who's familiar with it?
 
@JasperLoy I hope that too. :-)
 
@JasperLoy :(
 
@AndrewThompson Yes. I do not know what type theory is.
@evinda :(
 
r9m
cloasing votes here please !!
@Chris'ssis Happy New Year :-)
 
@r9m Happy New Year! How are you doing these days? :-)
 
r9m
5:10 PM
@Chris'ssis surviving resolutions ;)
 
@r9m lol, OK :-)
 
5:26 PM
@Alizter you wrote a program that renders cayley diagrams chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/16194613#16194613 do you know where i can learn to do that?
 
@Chris'ssis Programming isn't hard work yet I succeed in it.
wow I am hungover as a pootenany
 
oh god @user153330
I got an 8/10 as well lulz
 
@user153330 The answer to the ninth one is definitely Hobo
 
@teadawg no person with a youth and beard like that is a prof. the quiz lied.
 
I took it seriously and got a 10/10
 
We have the polynomial $f(x)=x^3+6x-14 \in \mathbb{Q}[x]$. We have that $f(x)$ has exactly one positive real root $a$. That means that $f(x)$ can be written as followed:

$$f(x)=(x-a)(x^2+px+q)$$

Where do $p,q$ belong to?? Are they in $\mathbb{Q}, \mathbb{R}$ ??
 
@MaryStar Is $\mathbb{Q}$ a complex or rational numbers set?
 
@mikeonly $\mathbb{Q}$ is the set of rational numbers
 
5:57 PM
@MaryStar I think they are for sure in $\mathbb{R}$. For your example they are not in $\mathbb{Q}$.
Can somebody have a look on the proof books.google.com.ua/…
 
@JasperLoy just step into radical action, it'll free you
 
It's The Nested Interval Lemma (or Cauchy–Cantor Principle).
 
@user153330 lol
 
I have a question whether this proof can be simplified to just the axiom of completeness of $\mathbb{R}$?
If we have $$a_1\leq a_2\leq \dots \leq a_n \leq b_n\leq \dots\leq b_2\leq b_1$$ isn't there a point between $a_n$ and $b_n$ for sure due to the axiom of completeness?
 
6:10 PM
@DonLarynx Great!
 
@Chris'ssis @JasperLoy did you try? individual.utoronto.ca/somody/quiz.html
 
Hi.
 
@user153330 I'm not good as such things. :-)
 
@user153330 :D
 
@iwriteonbananas Not funny.
 
6:16 PM
@JasperLoy im not joking
 
@iwriteonbananas OK.
 
Hi bananas
Hi @Jasper @Chris'ssis @mr eyglasses
 
@TedShifrin Hello Ted. How was your New Year's?
 
@TedShifrin Hello and Happy New Year!
 
@mikeonly Ok!! Thanks!!! :-)
 
6:20 PM
@Mikeonly ... No, no completeness there.
 
ted saved the day once again!
 
Huh? @bananas
 
by gracing us with his presence in the MSE chat tonight
weeeeee
 
@TedShifrin Why? Aren't they in $\mathbb{R}$?
 
Hardly, bananas :)
All you need is $(a_n+b_n)/2$.
 
6:22 PM
Prof. @Ted!
 
@Studentmath :)
 
How's the new year thingy been?
 
@TedShifrin I see your point. It is between $a_n$ and $b_n$, isn't it? Why do I need this though?
 
You asked if we used completeness to get someone between 'em. I said no.
Ok, @Studentmath, and yours?
 
@TedShifrin How many books did you publish so far?
 
6:24 PM
@TedShifrin Heads up: an instance of one of your favorite and most surprising exercises just popped up. Perhaps you might like to add an answer.
 
@TedShifrin Ok. Can I use completeness to get someone between them?
 
Oh oh @Bill
 
There wasn't really anything in here, but I managed (think so) to prove something I worked on for a bit over a month, so I guess good! @Ted
 
@Chris'ssis: 3 officially publshed +1 in .pdf
 
@TedShifrin May I ask you which one is the most sold, when it was published and how many copies you sold so far?
@TedShifrin I think the math books are sold very hard in general.
 
6:28 PM
I actually don't know, @Chris'ssis ...
Great @Studentmath!
 
So can I prove Cauchy–Cantor Principle using the axiom of completeness?
 
@mikeonly: Completeness addresses the issue of the limit of all these $a_n$s, not the existence if the individual ones.
@mikeonly: What is that principle?
 
@TedShifrin Since I shared my thoughts with my family and some friends I often heard this time that publishing a math book is a waste of time since they are sold very hard, but they don't see my point unfortunately: I wanna publish a book for my spirit only, but I'm sure they'll ask me how many copies I will have managed to sell ... (just for fun).
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@TedShifrin That there is at least one real number between two given reals.
 
@Chris'ssis I am not sure how many people will buy a copy of a book on integrals, series and limits. It is very specialised.
 
6:32 PM
Mine are standard textbooks for courses, @Chris'ssis, so it's not comparable.
 
hey professor @TedShifrin i guess you can score 10/10 in this individual.utoronto.ca/somody/quiz.html
 
No, it's a separate issue, @mikeonly.
 
@Chris'ssis paul nahin's latest book sells very good, so if your book is a gem then you will surely succeed
 
@TedShifrin Publishing a book, a precious one, makes you always a noble being and feed your spirit in my opinion since you bring your contribution to the development of some mathematical areas (in my case, the ones I love), even if they are specialised as @JasperLoy mentioned.
 
Maybe you'll be the next Polya-Szego, @Chris'ssis ...
 
6:34 PM
@TedShifrin I'm only passion.
@user153330 Really? How did you find that?
 
@TedShifrin Hm. Firstly, do you say that we cannot use real numbers properties talking about intervals? Secondly, if we still can define an interval as a set of reals, who would complain about an existence of a point between $a_n$ and $b_n$ if I appeal to the axiom?
 
LOL @user153330
 
@Chris'ssis the book was published in August 28, 2014 now it has 10 reviews, if you compare it with other titles you can surely come to the conclusion i gave
 
@TedShifrin Never mind, on closer inspection it's a more specific question.
 
Yeah, @Bill, I saw Mary's question in here earlier, too.
@mikeonly: Maybe I'm not understanding your point. $\Bbb Z$ satisfies completeness, but not your property. $\Bbb Q$ satisfies your $a_n$, $b_n$ property, but not completeness. $\Bbb R$ is an ordered field, so my $(a_n+b_n)/2$ follows just from that (just as for $\Bbb Q$), regardless of completeness.
 
6:40 PM
@user153330 It also has a section for complex analysis ... and this might account for the difference (partly) ... Besides that, there is a way of telling things, I mean the author communicates with the reader as if there were a dialog, it's not just a "cold" book that states things and prove them.
 
@Chris'ssis you should attempt to do that in your book, or write it in paul halmos' style
 
@Chris'ssis: I honestly believe my free .pdf on Differential Geometry may be more widely used and appreciated than my published books that sell for too much money.
 
@user153330 I think it's nice to explain things to the reader as if you were there with him/her. Maybe if you're a beginner you feel more comfortable when you come across hard stuff and then the author says things like "Don't worry, you'll fully understand that in the next chapter (problem)!" or something like that.
 
Interesting: I'd never heard of Paul Nahin or his books before.
 
@TedShifrin I see. In general free pdfs are "sold" very well. :-)
 
6:44 PM
@TedShifrin how many times was it downloaded? (paul nahin has some very nice books, like his book "Euler's formula: cures many mathematical diseases")
 
@Chris'ssis: I have no way of metering how many people use my .pdf on their own, and even some professors have used them without contacting me about it. But plenty do contact me for "permission." Yeah, @user153330, I'd never heard of him before 10 minutes ago. Seems like he has quite a career as a fiction writer, as well as engineer and mathematician. So he must have a great writing style.
 
@TedShifrin Well. I see. Two question here. First one: can we use the Archimedes principle ($(k-1)c\leq x < kc$) if it is $\mathbb{Z}$ or $\mathbb{Q}$? Second: does the proof with completeness work well if $a_i, b_i \in \mathbb{R}$?
 
Well, given the way the current textbook market has gone, I expect more competition from free pdfs will force publishers to reconsider price points and hopefully lower costs on students. I find it pretty ridiculous that I can buy a book that was printed in america that was shipped to europe, shipped back to america and to my doorstep for considerably less money than buying it direct
 
Yeah, sure the Archimedean principle works in $\Bbb Q$. I don't understand what your second question is, @mikeonly.
No, @JMoravitz, we're going the opposite way. Textbook publishers are now charging for all the e-books, on-line homework, etc. I doubt much will change for advanced textbooks or graduate level texts.
 
@TedShifrin Yeah, I agree. It's nice to ask the permission of the author.
 
6:48 PM
@TedShifrin I am trying to prove the Cauchy-Cantor Principle. And what I am asking is that can the completeness axiom be used for this purpose in $\mathbb{R}$?
 
@Chris'ssis: The ones who ask for permission I ask to give me feedback, and many have caught small errors or suggested improvements. I thank them :)
This is going in circles, @mikeonly. Precisely what are we assuming about $\Bbb R$?
 
@TedShifrin Of course. There are also benefits out there! :-)
 
@TedShifrin That there is a real number between any two given.
 
Wait, you told me that was the Cauchy-Cantor Principle.
 
@TedShifrin I am trying to use this fact to prove Cauchy-Cantor Principle.
 
6:51 PM
You told me that was the Cauchy-Cantor principle.
 
@TedShifrin Sorry. Where?
@TedShifrin Oh, now I see.
@TedShifrin I have misunderstood you.
 
By googling, I'm finding that Cantor principle states that any nested sequence of closed intervals in $\Bbb R$ has a point in all of them. Is that your statement?
(I've never, never heard it referred to as the Cantor principle. I know this as the Nested Intervals Theorem.)
 
@TedShifrin Yes, it is it.
 
You cannot prove that just by knowing the betweenness result (i.e., given $a<b$ real numbers, there is a real number $c$ in between). Betweenness holds just as well in $\Bbb Q$, but the nested interval result does not.
 
@TedShifrin There is two parts in the theorem. Which one result doesn't work?
 
6:57 PM
What are the two parts?
 
@TedShifrin First that there at least one point. Second is that if there is an interval less than $\varepsilon>0$ the point is the only one.
 
The first fails, not the second.
 
:19336429 Wow, I really don't understand you now. By saying «
The first fails, not the second.» you mean that there is *no common point* but *the point is still the only one*?
 
I'm saying that there might be no common point, but if the lengths of the intervals shrink to $0$ then there can be at most one point in all the intervals.
 
Huy
Good evening, @TedShifrin.
 
7:07 PM
hi @Huy
 
Huy
How's the new year so far, @TedShifrin?
 
LOL, just fine, @Huy, thanks, and yours?
 
Huy
Worked with Einstein's field equations a bit in this new year, apart from that, nothing new.
 
@TedShifrin Ok. Now I understand, thanks. :)
 
r9m
@user153330 LOL
 
7:10 PM
Yeah, @mikeonly. You're welcome. (Make sure you can give an example of what I said: shrinking intervals in $\Bbb Q$ with no point in their intersection.)
hi @r9m
 
@r9m These days I created a very very nice triple series involving Stirling numbers. I would have been curious to see how you would rate that as difficulty.
 
r9m
@TedShifrin Happy New Year professor !! :)
@Chris'ssis I am all eyes ! :) show me !
@Chris'ssis took it :)
 
@r9m I think you'd like that very much: it's very surprising! :-) In a math contest that one would mercilessly blast many souls. :-)
 
@TedShifrin So it would be an irrational number between them. Though I cannot give an exact values of the boundaries. Wow. Wait.
 
Good, @mikeonly, although for a concrete example I bet you could.
 
r9m
7:15 PM
@Chris'ssis blast many souls !! hahaha ! I like that :D
 
@r9m :D
 
heya @robjohn. Happy 2015 to ya.
I heard about the snow excitement in the San Bernadinos :)
done betting all your savings, @RingSpectra? :)
 
user105491
@Ted Yeah, I came back yesterday morning at one, thanks to the snow
 
Yes, it's time you learned what snow is.
 
user105491
:-)
 
7:30 PM
You mean you guys left early?
 
user105491
No, we left from Hoover dam at 3pm, and reached home at 1 am
 
user105491
Almost 4 hours longer than expected
 
how can I add doubles in java?
 
well, I've had worse experiences in Georgia with about 2 inches of snow :(
happy new year, anyhow, @RingSpectra
 
7:31 PM
 
user105491
@Ted the same to you!
 
happy new year, besotted @Don
 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/books/13955/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_b_1_4_last (
Best Sellers in Mathematical Analysis)
 
@Ted Hi!
 
user105491
I just came in to say hi, I can't stay. See you later, @Ted!
 
7:32 PM
@Chris'ssis you see Chris, told you
 
Hi @Ted
 
See ya later, @RingSpectra
hi @Balarka ... happy new year
 
to you too. may this year suck more than the year before and the year before the year before and so on.
 
you sound like Jasper, @Balarka
 
7:33 PM
:P
 
heya @Mike ... you go out to play in the snow?
 
hi @Mike
 
LOL, snow in Palm Desert? Don't be so generous.
 
@Don: I continue to detest anything Windows.
you heard about the mess in the San Bernadinos, @Mike?
 
7:34 PM
i started working on comalg @Ted
 
Yeah. But it's not close enough. :P
 
Mazltov, @Balarka.
 
I'm going to my grandparents' in Beaumont today and it's not cold enough for snow there, eithe.
 
@Ted I bought a windows computer just to use vs, lol
 
@DonLarynx that's what happens to my parents computers every time they download something
 
7:35 PM
@Jorge lol
 
Shouldn't let adults play with computers? @Jorge
 
not if they're going to force their kids to uninstall "cheap offers assistance" toolbar after.
 
i just discovered the peculiarities of the zariski topology eariler this morning, with much help from pedro
 
my parents are really internet gullible
 
That's why they have you, @Jorge :)
 
7:36 PM
they are the people who click on the huge green download arrows
 
@user153330 It's a book focused on presentation, explaining things in the language of an amateur. This is very important for the public since when you buy a book you wanna be sure you understand things written in the book. If you notice well, he explain more than doing math. As a newbie, you open the book and realize that the author tells you things about math in your language!
 
non-Hausdorff in action, @Balarka
 
yeah
so weird
 
and download exe files and run them without realizing they wanted an mp3.
 
the open sets are so huge
 
7:37 PM
yup ... just shows you that algebra sucks, @Balarka :D
 
So I'm looking for the name of a type of problem..
 
like what, @Moshe?
 
I think it's a "rate" problem, but here's the specifics:
 
I guess I just became an open-minded person @Ted. Never thought I would.
 
oh oh ... might not belong here
I wouldn't go that far, @Balarka
 
7:38 PM
@TedShifrin Now I am stack with this challenge. I thought I can somehow shrink these intervals to an irrational number, say $\sqrt{2}$. I have come up with this interval $[a_n; b_n]$ where: $$a_{n+1}=\frac{1}{2}\left ( a_n+\frac{2}{a_n} \right )$$ $$b_n=1/n$$
 
"I'm walking down the street at a given sped, and there's a bus going the same direction from two stops behind me at a different speed. At what point does the bus catch up to me?" What is this problem called?
 
Ah, well, apart from the analysis part.
 
calling yourself open-minded, is ironically being closed-minded.
 
oh, @Moshe, that sort of rate problem.
 
LOL @Don
 
7:39 PM
yeah, what's that called?
 
@Chris'ssis yeah, so you need too to do that, to present the intuition and motivation etc... btw how many copies did your friend Furdui, Ovidiu sell? how much did he gain? ()
 
@Moshe divide the initial distance between the people by the difference in speeds
 
I don't know that there are names, but rate problems is ok ... I guess there are mixing problems that are similar.
 
@Ted Any questions you like this new years day?
 
@JorgeFernández I'm looking for the name of this problem, not looking to solve it (yet.)
 
7:40 PM
The catching up problem?
chase problems
 
I answered one on the Frobenius theorem, @Mike. Otherwise, haven't looked, other than to see you closed Narasimham's diff geo question — first time I'd ever seen those alleged converses. Don't know where he found them or if they're correct.
@Jorge: Don't just give rote routines for solving problems. Ask people questions to help them set the problem up and then they should solve them.
 
Let me google what rote means
 
@user153330 He's like me I think, he's not focused on gaining money from publishing books, but he does it because of the burning passion to it. However, it's good to sell many books, it's an indicator that people love your book, your way of presenting things is a clear & very nice.
 
@TedShifrin So when we make $n$ approach $\infty$ the interval shrinks to $\sqrt{2}$. But there would be definitely some rational in those boundaries. Otherwise why there won't be any?
 
LOL @Jorge: You gave a formula for the solution, with no explanation. People should never do math that way.
 
7:42 PM
@TedShifrin I'm not trying to solve it, just the name of it.
 
@Ted The question could easily be interesting. But it's the prime example of a question that needs more context.
 
If $a_1$ is rational, all the $a_n$ will be rational, @mikeonly. You're making this harder than I meant it to be, but ok.
 
@Ted It's good that I am studying Atiyah-MacDonald instead of Dummit-Foote. The latter even defines schemes and those super-duper abstract stuff.
Sheaf, stalks, ughh.
 
@TedShifrin ok
 
@Moshe: I don't think we have names for every sort of algebra/trig/calculus problem that shows up. Occasionally we have "types," but often not.
 
7:43 PM
but giving the formula is a lot faster
 
Sheaves are fantastic, @Balarka, but you're not ready yet.
 
Ah, ok. I got what I needed though.
 
That's terrible teaching, @Jorge. I don't care.
 
Yes, I know I am not ready.
 
@JorgeFernández Now how does that work?
 
7:43 PM
@Chris'ssis i wish you succeed in that, i wish that your book be a bestseller, i wish that a lot of people like your work and your dedication, i wish i'll be the first one who will have the privilege to buy your book : )
 
I'd forever fear Grothendieck.
 
@Moshe it just does. It's how formulas work.
 
Believe it or not, sheaf theory is very much motivated by understanding complex analysis, @Balarka.
No, @Jorge. BAD answer.
 
@TedShifrin Isn't it the reason why we cannot choose a set of nested intervals in $\mathbb{Q}$ which doesn't possess a common point for all intervals?
 
7:44 PM
I was just playing with you this time
 
That's how you tell your parents not to punch the green arrow. It doesn't work here.
 
Yes, that's what I wanna do first. Study the complex analytic aspect of sheaves.
 
@user153330 If Ovidiu's book had been presented as the one of Nahin, I tell you for sure his book would have been on top, the best one and far away from all the others as copies sold. That would have meant his book had much much more pages, maybe 600,700 pages because of the explanations to those problems.
 
smacks @Jorge
 
I'd do everything to avoid going into abstractness in a hurry.
 
7:45 PM
@Moshe do you understand the problems like a car needs to travel 1 mile at a constant speed of 40miles per hour, how much time does it take?
 
Sure, @mikeonly. I was thinking of something more concrete. Like take $\sqrt2$, and take a sequence of rational numbers $a_n<\sqrt2<b_n$. (For example, use a certain number of places in the decimal expansion, etc.)
 
I looked, @Ted, and I don't see anything that's going to get me hot and bothered.
 
@JorgeFernández 1 mile/40mph
 
@Chris'ssis: No one wants a 600-page book. Certainly no publisher.
 
= 60/40 = 1.5 minutes?
60 minutes * 1 mile / 40 mph
 
7:47 PM
Oddly, @Mike, diff geo and diff top seem to attract a certain type of student/"self-learner" who keep posting dozens of questions, don't really want to engage, and aren't prepared to learn the material.
 
@TedShifrin Nahin's book has over 400 pages. That's bad if you're right. I wanted to publish a book with 1000 pages (approximately).
 
But I guess now I know what a locally rings space means @Ted, even though I never read up any definition of it. The significance of the name striked me when I was looking at Mumford's way to depict spectrum of rings.
 
@Ted I have a few books at least that long.
 
Perhaps they published his because of his fame as a fiction author, @Chris'ssis. I don't know.
 
And yes, I engaged with "a student" a few times, but I won't anymore.
 
7:48 PM
Me too, @Mike, but we're not looking for Federer's Geometric Measure Theory here, written by a world-famous expert in a narrow field.
 
@ moshe, the idea is similar now, initially the chaser needs to reduce the distance between him and the chasee by a distance, say 50 miles
 
Well, I don't have that one!
 
we want to know how much that distance is reduced per hour, if their speeds are 60 miles and 40 miles per hour
 
I guess a ringed space is a topological space equipped with functors sending points to commutative rings.
 
@TedShifrin On the other hand, I might publish more volumes ... (then no need a book with so many pages).
 
7:49 PM
You'd better have a big research reputation to publish a long research monograph. And for undergraduate level, no one wants a book 600+ pages long.
 
@JorgeFernández Ah, I think I'm getting it...
 
OK, I need to walk a mile to a New Year's party down the road.
You all have fun.
 
Motivation : Consider Spec R. Any point p of Spec R is not only a point but also contains informations about R/p.
 
@TedShifrin what will be your constant speed?
 
@TedShifrin Thats not the phrase.
 
7:50 PM
@Ted This is what iPhones are for.
 
Huh? @Mike
 
@Ted uses iPads, right?
 
@Jorge: I usually manage about 2 mph, but my toes are sore, so slower.
 
To chat on the go...
 
I hate phones. Oh, only you do that, @Mike.
 
7:51 PM
@TedShifrin Can we please return to what you have said here chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/19336486#19336486. I am still see no counterarguments to the existence of that common point.
 
You'll end up run over in LA traffic one of these days, @Mike.
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@TedShifrin I was told that by others too. Maybe 300-500 pages it's the best option for a book, and then, I might publish more volumes.
 
LOL @Ted
 
@mikeonly: My point is that you have $a_n<c<b_n$, with $a_n,b_n\in\Bbb Q$ but $c\notin\Bbb Q$. So the nested interval theorem fails in $\Bbb Q$.
 
ok, suppose when you are halfway there your dog breaks out of your house and chases you at a speed of 10 miles per hour, will he reach you before you arrive at the party? if yes, how much time will it take?
 
7:53 PM
I have become a big fan of that ever since I saw it.
 
@r9m how does that series seem to you?
 
@TedShifrin But nested theorem says that there is $c$ in $\mathbb{Q}$ such that it would be common.
 
@Ted One can pay attention to two things at once.
 
how can I add one to a double in java?
 
Ted's an old guy, @Mike. Hard to do that for him.
 
7:54 PM
b+1;
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@mikeonly But that's not a theorem in $\Bbb Q$. That's the point.
 
nevermind, I got it
 
@TedShifrin Well. Of course nested theorem is not for $\mathbb{Q}$, but its expansion works right for me.
@MikeMiller Yes, I admit that. Though it would be ok for $\mathbb{Q}$ too, wouldn't it?
 
No, @mikeonly. That's the point of our example. It shows it is NOT OK for $\Bbb Q$.
 
@TedShifrin But our example chooses the point rather than finds it.
 
7:59 PM
True, @mikeonly: That is generally how one makes up examples. The theorem doesn't really "find" it ... it just reassures you that the point is there if you're working in $\Bbb R$.
 

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