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5:03 PM
@MichaelAlbanese Hi!!! Can I ask you something about algebraic geometry?
 
@DanielFischer Do you know a $C^1$ bijection $\Bbb R \to \Bbb R$ with $C^1$ inverse, where neither is $C^k$ for $k>1$?
Feel free to replace the 1 with some larger finite number if desired.
 
Does someone have an idea for the following exercise??

http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1067877/show-that-it-is-np-complete
 
@MikeMiller Take a continuous function $f$ with $f(x) \geqslant c > 0$ for all $x\in\mathbb{R}$ that is not differentiable, and take $$F(x) = \int_0^x f(t)\,dt.$$
 
OK, 25 minutes is over.
@Mike
 
Back!
 
5:10 PM
Alright, sure. I don't even need something wacky, I guess it only needs to be not-differentiable at one point.
 
@MikeMiller According to some time stamps, it is now eight days and ten minutes since you put Balarka on ignore.
 
@MikeMiller unignore! Worst case you have to re-ignore. Also half an hour is sufficient. A week is overkill
 
Wow, I submitted an edit for this question three seconds after someone else edited it....
 
Ah, but he got three hours added after someone told me to listen to him day-of.
 
@AlecTeal It was nothing serious. A bet.
 
5:12 PM
Ya @MikeMiller don't be cruel.
 
Grrr @Mike
kicks desk
 
@MikeMiller you're being a tool
 
I didn't even tell him to tell Mike to listen to me.
 
WORST CASE: He is put back on ignore. Oh noes 4 clicks?
 
That's so not fair.
 
5:13 PM
@MikeMiller Right. And since $F'(x) \geqslant c$, $F^{-1}$ has exactly the same differentiability class as $F$ if we take $f$ bounded (which I forgot to demand above).
 
@MichaelAlbanese Could you take a look at this exercise?

http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1059497/the-intersection-points-are-collinear
 
@DanielFischer what's the topic
 
6 mins ago, by Mike Miller
@DanielFischer Do you know a $C^1$ bijection $\Bbb R \to \Bbb R$ with $C^1$ inverse, where neither is $C^k$ for $k>1$?
 
[Nothing]
 
I'd rather go to the homotopy chat room than wait for 3 more hours...
 
5:16 PM
I was thinking along the lines of something far more pathological for no real reason.
 
Ugh... I'll be upset if my suggested edit gets rejected... Between the time that I pressed submit and the edit was put through, someone else had submitted their own edit... That's not fair, I didn't get any notification that someone else was editing...
 
@teadawg1337 link the edit
 
@teadawg: It's a dawg-eat-dawg world ...
 
@DanielFischer Ideas on this?
 
5:17 PM
Okay @teadawg1337 that wasn't a huge edit, so don't be upset that you lost 2 rep
 
It is professor, it is @TedShifrin
 
@AlecTeal It was a huge edit, I got no notification that someone else was working on an edit while I was editing it
 
Am I supposed to think about that question you just repasted, @DanielF? I presume you answered it?
 
@TedShifrin WTF is this " 3 Well, I even checked my junk folder, which is where you belong. Maybe it'll get here in a decade or so. - 2d ago by Ted Shifrin " about - you need to be careful when talking to students like that, you can severely cripple their self esteem.
 
@TedShifrin You mean Mike's question? No, I think I answered it.
 
5:19 PM
@teadawg1337 it really wasn't so cheer up.
 
@Alec: Why have you appointed yourself the arbiter of all things moral?
 
No, I have.
 
@AlecTeal I submitted that edit three seconds after Sujaan's.
 
@TedShifrin I've seen first hand what it can do, and throw-away comments (which was an hilarious burn) coming from a professor to a student can really hurt them.
 
I am the skull here.
 
5:19 PM
@Hippa and I have a long-standing love-hate relationship, and it was said in humor. He took absolutely no umbrage. So butt out.
 
@evinda I don't know the answer to your hexagon question unfortunately. Is that what you wanted to ask me?
 
Oh okay, I did look at the log and thought ... yeah you get the idea, never mind.
 
He's been the one who's put up "humorous" memes of me all over the place, @Alec. So, seriously, ...
 
Ya, it was a joke.
 
@MikeMiller The obvious first guess is $V(p) = \{f : f(p) = 0\}$ for $p \in \beta X \setminus X$.
 
5:21 PM
Hey @TedShifrin!!! I am looking again at the exercise at which I have to find the inflection points of the curve $C=V(x^3-yz^2) \in \mathbb{P}^2(\mathbb{C})$.
I found that the point $(0,1,0)$ is a singular point of the curve.
Does this mean that $[0,1,0]$ is not a inflection point? Or am I wrong?
 
Let's not let it blow-up gentlemen.
 
@TedShifrin sorry I didn't think it was done in jest. None the less, I'd rather have failed and been told to butt out than not mentioned it had it been what I thought it was (damn that's a convoluted sentence)
 
@MichaelAlbanese Yes, that's what I wanted to ask you... :)
 
Yo @bolbteppa
 
Hi @evinda idk any algebraic geometry tbh
 
5:22 PM
@evinda that's the kind of question I can do, link me the Q?
 
Yo Balark, your Grothendieck stuff looks crazy
 
What? That dessin denfant and Gr-Teichmuller theory? @bolbteppa
 
Right, @evinda, it is a singular point. I don't know what definition your course is using.
 
I'm all over the place, on one level I'm doing quantum field theory and group-theoretic differential equations, on another level I'm still not happy with basic projective space :(
It's a mixed bag, need more time! :D
 
5:23 PM
@TedShifrin Do you mean the definition of the singular point?
 
@DanielFischer Yeah; not sure I believe it, though. I'd guess the algebra is somewhat more complicated. Dunno if I have a reason to believe it.
 
No, definition of flex point, @evinda.
 
Yeah
 
@TedShifrin I assume we're cool now?
 
yeah they are @bolbteppa
 
5:24 PM
You've annoyed me before, @Alec, so I suppose it's only fair that I should have annoyed you.
 
/me still wants a book signed by @TedShifrin, if it came back saying "You twat - Ted" the pages would be warped from my tears
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No comment.
 
That right there is how stalkers are born
Tread softly Ted grin
 
it's a big thunderstrike for arithmeters to find that Gal(\bar Q/Q) is a braid group @bolbteppa
 
5:25 PM
@MikeMiller Wait, we need subsets of $\beta X \setminus X$, not only singletons.
 
@BalarkaSen wait what? Surely not.
 
yes, @Alec
Grothendieck-Teichmuller group
 
Stone-Cech compactification @DanielF? Say what?
 
although it is only conjecturally so
 
Is that result related to Langlands
 
5:26 PM
@BalarkaSen by "braid group" you mean the actual braids - that group?
 
no i don't think so @bolbteppa
 
Got a link, that's totally not-obvious
 
@TedShifrin It's a question about subalgebras of $C_b(X)$ that, for every point $x$, have an element $f$ nonzero at $x$.
 
@TedShifrin What Mike linked above
 
reps onto GL(V) is totally not related to reps on huge geometric objects
 
5:26 PM
I am way out of my depth on that one, but I'm sure you'll nail it Balark with a bit of work!
 
i have yet to understand dessin de'nfants properly @bolbteppa
 
@BalarkaSen I was totally serious - I don't see that result, more info?
 
@TedShifrin There is this theorem:

Let $C=V(F)$ be an algebraic curve.
$$F[x,y,z] \in K[x,y,z]$$
The inflection points of $F$ are exactly the non-singular of the curve, that are interesection points with the hessian.
 
i have got a book on it (french. pfeh) which i plan to study after alg topo
@AlecTeal look up Grothendieck-Teichmuller group
 
Ah, well, then, if they exempt singular points, then you have answered your own question, @evinda!
 
5:28 PM
It looks like it's phrased in the language of Category theory, are you familiar with that Balark?
 
Wow, and @Mike just got finished saying that he despises point-set topology :D
 
@TedShifrin But $(0,1,0) \neq [0,1,0]$, right?
So how could we justify it that we don't accept the point $[0,1,0]$ as an inflection point?
 
@Ted This guy is asking why one considers $C^2$ things when studying PDE stuff. I guess you might know the answer.
 
@AlecTeal i don't really have much info on gr-teich theory, but i can let you know about the general idea of the starting point of it
 
The only points in $\Bbb P^2(\Bbb C)$ are points $[a,b,c]$, @evinda. Parentheses make no sense.
 
5:29 PM
the full-fledged gr-teich group was constructed by drinfeld
 
@TedShifrin Yeah, but it's only secretly a point-set question. I was tricked into thinking about it.
 
@bolbteppa i know basic category theory, sure
 
@bolbteppa to ask that you must know about category theory? Any recommended books (A lot of mine just cover a small specific part of it)
 
Just like @evinda is tricked into learning Pascal's Theorem ... :D
 
@AlecTeal look at the books by MacLane
but studying cat theory in general context can be boring, so be warned
 
5:30 PM
@TedShifrin Great!!! I understand!!!! Thank you!!!
 
@BalarkaSen amazon.co.uk/s/… confirm? y/n
 
Sure, @evinda, or at the end. You rule it out on your list because it's a singular point.
 
i usually go through the motivatory fundamentals of the stuff i want to study and then look at the cat-theoretic generalization
@AlecTeal sure.
 
@Mike, the diffeomorphism defines a smooth structure, but it doesn't mean the original $C^k$ structure was smooth.
 
5:32 PM
@TedShifrin Great!!! I understand!!! Thank you!!!!
 
I know that.
 
I'm not going to look at the papers... :)
 
@AlecTeal no idea
 
I don't know the ways in which the $C^k$ structure is different for the sake of PDE theory.
 
@TedShifrin Do you maybe also have an idea how I could prove Pascal's theorem?
 
5:32 PM
Also @BalarkaSen amazon.co.uk/… any good? Also which number in the series is this?
 
This is my day of rest before the week of grading finals and extra-credit problems starts.
 
It just says "Consider a $C^2$ hypersurface. We'll study this PDE on it."
 
@AlecTeal yes that's the book by maclane i was referring to
 
Well, if it's a second-order PDE, you'd better have $C^2$, @Mike. But you'd better not take another derivative :)
 
It is and they don't.
 
5:34 PM
@BalarkaSen which number in the series is it? Like Lee's introduction to topological manifolds is 202 - it should say on the spine
 
i dunno
 
Don't have the copy to hand?
 
Categories Work is I guess the canonical intro (outside of lecture notes). A lot of its examples are motivated by algebraic topology, though.
 
Bugger
 
nope
but it's online.
i think
what @Mike says though
 
5:35 PM
@BalarkaSen I'm in a place called Wales ATM, the internet is so slow (and also most of my books are back in Uni) could you check for me, it literally takes 12 seconds for a google results page to show.
 
Yes, @evinda, I certainly know how to prove it, but I don't know what you know and what you don't. It takes some knowledge about projective goemetry, conics, maybe cubics.
 
@AlecTeal you can model a large chunk of basic category theory on the notion of a homotopy
http://math.stackexchange.com/a/438697/82615
Think of a category as a way to talk about the set of all paths (arrows) between two points (objects) (a,b) & (c,d) in the plane, and then a functor is just like a continuous map mapping paths to paths, then a 'natural transformation' is just a homotopic deformation of one image into another, as in this picture
http://math.stackexchange.com/a/399960/82615
This is all motivated by thinking of the 'action' in theoretical physics as a functor
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It's 5, @Alec
 
@TedShifrin Could we maybe prove it using Bezout's theorem?
 
Thanks @MikeMiller
 
5:37 PM
@AlecTeal If that analogy makes sense, the rest should fall into place, the youtube videos by the Catsters on category theory plus that analogy plus some random pdf's on the internet, plus some browsing of Maclane's book should give you a large overview of category theory :)
 
@evinda: I honestly have no idea what tools you have. You need to study your book and talk with your professor.
 
Thanks for that @bolbteppa I appreciate it
 
hello
is anyone here?
 
@BalarkaSen this article on Dessin D'Enfants is very cool
http://www.ams.org/notices/200307/what-is.pdf
 
5:38 PM
yes @bolbteppa
 
@bolbteppa math.ucr.edu/home/baez/qg-fall2004/action.pdf is literally downloading at 3 bytes per second - I could actually ring up a dialup exchange and shout letters down the phone faster.
 
but it's very rough
doesn't go through much
 
Stop whining, @Alec.
 
Sure
 
I just want to share the pain :/
 
5:39 PM
hehe
 
@TedShifrin Ok.. But could you explain me the general idea?
 
@evinda: No, because there are lots of different approaches, and I have no idea what you know. You seriously need to work with your fellow students and your professor.
 
So are you interested in answering the question at the end of that pdf? Of distinguishing dessin's by combinatorial/topological invariants?
 
@bolbteppa you are talking to me?
 
yeah
 
5:44 PM
Oh
 
i am interested in a geometric way to think about gal of \bar Q/Q
i have an approach, but it's way different from dessins and the stuff Gr considered
 
Hi guys.
 
cool, I see
 
I have a doubt about grad school applications. Some universities have asked me to list the relevant courses which I've done and asked me to list in detail, as much information as possible. How much in detail do they generally want?
@TedShifrin any ideas?
 
my approach is rather topological than geometric/complex analytic @bolbteppa
 
5:46 PM
@DanielFischer One question: suppose that $A$ is self-adjoint operator in $B(H)$. We can show that $\ker A^n = \ker A$, but, do you know example that $\text{Im} A^{n+1} \subsetneq \text{Im} A^n$? (Im=image, I can say range also...) Maybe shift operator (from my head, but, hm...)
 
When I did mine I outlined the topics covered in the course; no more than that. Oftentimes there wasn't even enough room given to do that.
 
Are you working with a famous professor on this?
 
@Jayesh: They're trying to get some idea of the textbook and scope of the courses. Listing which chapters of the text you covered, or the main topics (a few lines should do it) will probably be enough.
 
no, haha
 
I thought you had someone famous to work on stuff with, no?
 
5:47 PM
@MikeMiller real quick, you know continuous means "the preimage of a set in Y needs to be open in X", is it true that continuous means "U is closed in X if and only if f(U) is closed in Y", or is it a typo?
 
Or discuss things with at least :)
 
it's an obsession of a kid, but a professor is motivating me
 
Ah I see, cool!
 
and telling me to think about it
 
Okay, so basically saying that I did Chapter 1-10 of Folland for Real Analysis is enough I guess then? @TedShifrin
 
5:48 PM
For example, @Jayesh, saying your course used Artin or Dummit and Foote for algebra, as opposed to Beachy and Blair, tells the faculty something :)
 
Yes, cool!
 
Yes, @Jayesh.
 
@TedShifrin Ahh, good, thanks a lot. :-)
 
he is a topologist, actually. geometric topologist plus hyperbolic geometer :)
 
Saves up a lot of work I was planning to do otherwise.
:-)
 
5:49 PM
@Jayesh: Provided the text is relatively well-known, yes :)
 
@Cortizol The shift operator is not self-adjoint, its adjoint is the drop operator (or shift in the other direction).
 
That's a typo, @Alec. (Such a map is called a closed map.) It should say $f$ is continuous iff for all closed $U \subset Y$, $f^{-1}(U)$ is also closed.
 
Ugh: Please do not use $U$ for a closed set @Mike
 
Blame whatever Alec's reading.
 
Another demerit for @Alec, then.
:P
 
5:50 PM
Mathematica says Zeta[0]=-1/2
But could it also be Zeta[0]=0 ?
 
The harder you push me away the harder I will imprint on you
:P
 
LEL
 
@MatsGranvik No, $\zeta(0) = -\frac{1}{2}$ is the only right answer.
 
@DanielFischer I forget that operator must be self-adjoint. Well, then I don't know example.
 
@DanielFischer ok
 
5:51 PM
I haven't gotten in any trouble since middle school, when I skipped out on a mandatory after-school review session when I was SICK. I GOT IN-SCHOOL-SUSPENSION FOR IT.
 
@Cortizol Are you sure there is an example?
 
@DanielFischer Well, yes, it's one of problem from my book.
 
Well, once you get to college, @teadawg, you'll find that we faculty are much more understanding if you let us know (by email) if something unavoidable comes up and you have to miss class. Don't come to us after the fact begging for mercy :)
 
@teadawg1337 The worst thing I did this life was shoplifting.
 
So are you trying to understand Drinfeld's Grothendieck Teichmuller group?
 
5:52 PM
hi @Jasper
 
@bolbteppa not right now but i hope to do so in near future
 
@teadawg1337 I can confirm that, I can't do lectures, but by approaching the lecturers first and saying "Hi I'm Alec" - it really helped.
 
@TedShifrin Hello.
 
@Ted Less understanding when you don't go to any classes and then ask for solutions ot the midterms.
 
Can someone help me at the following exercise??

http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1067877/show-that-it-is-np-complete?noredirect=1#comment2172093_1067877
 
5:53 PM
@MikeMiller Have you tried that?
 
I can beat that, @Mike. One of my probability students — a math major — was in my office hours getting help on homework, went down to class with me, turned in the homework, then said he didn't feel well and left. So be it. But, after the class was over, he came back and asked me to tell him what he'd missed. When I got angry, he waited until the end of my next class, apologized, and asked me again, asking what he'd done wrong. Sigh
 
@MaryStar I'm actually good with Regex and formal languages, but I'm not sure what you mean by np-complete and 0 there, can you clarify the question.
 
@bolbteppa after studying alg topo, i'll try to read some of that stuff.
 
@DanielFischer No, someone just tried it on me five minutes ago. I can't decide whether to ignore or say no.
 
but grothendieck comes before drinfeld so will begin with dessins :)
 
5:54 PM
@TedShifrin Why did you get angry?
 
@Cortizol Books have been known to contain errors. I'm not saying this is one, but off the top of my head, I can't imagine how to construct such an example.
 
@MikeMiller say "no", it lets them know where they stand.
 
Because, @Jasper, if he skips my class, it's his problem to get notes from someone, not insult me by asking me what I did in class.
 
@JasperLoy If you miss a class, it's not the instructor's job to tell you what you missed. It's your own to figure it out.
 
Unless there are mitigating circumstances.
 
5:55 PM
@DanielFischer I can only agree with you.
 
@AlecTeal To show that a problem is NP-complete we have to show that it is polynomially transformable to an other NP-complete problem, right?? How do we know which problem we use?? Do you have an idea??
 
@ted @mike I did not think of it this way at all. I thought it was pretty responsible of the student to ask what he had missed.
 
@MaryStar I'm still not sure what your alphabet is, 0 was a poor choice, is that denoting "one letter"?
 
If they were truly mitigating, he wouldn't have been fine, getting help from me the hour before class, @Alec. He's skipped class numerous times, and I've seen him on the way to class. I have no attendance policy, but it's not my job to give my class more than once.
 
@Jasper I think the point was the student probably feigned illness
 
5:56 PM
@AlecTeal That's a good point.
 
@Jasper, when he walked out of class at the beginning? If he was really sick, why was he right there at the end of the class? And an hour later? Nonsense.
 
@TedShifrin fair enough, I misread I thought he'd come to you before but was just not a good student, nevermind. @MikeMiller the 0?
 
As I said, we're much more understanding if we're alerted to problems ahead of time, or as they happen. Obviously, if someone is hospitalized for surgery or depression, we need to be told that something's going on.
 
@teadawg1337 On the other hand, while I am very affected by my mental problems, many people seem to think that I am a douchebag for the way my life has turned out. All those 'friends' have long abandoned me.
 
Well my vague understanding is that Grothendieck basically considered isomorphism classes of categories of curves of genus g with n points removed, asking how the Galois group affects this, and then Drinfeld came along and used the similarity between category-theory descriptions and hopf-algebra descriptions (which he exploited in his quantum groups proof) to re-analyze the problem, that's my vague understanding!
 
5:58 PM
@AlecTeal I found the exercise, exactly as I wrote it, in the book.
 
He's a smart guy, @Alec, but he's a doofus.
 
No, @Alec, telling them no.
 
That's only about half wrong probably lol but there is some kernel of truth in it I think!
 
@MikeMiller I urge you to do it, no response teaches them nothing, they could assume "he was too busy to do it", "no" means you disapprove and you are literally refusing to help - but anyway!
 
@Jasper: One of my best students last year told me, finally, that he was suffering from depression. It took guts for him to tell me, but I was able to be a better teacher and much better adviser once he told me the situation. And I went out of my way to help him when he missed class for a week, let him finish the course late, etc.
 
5:59 PM
I did after you suggested so.
 
Good.
 
I'm surprised test solutions aren't posted on the web, @Mike. Even I do that for my small classes (calculus for sure, and even probability this term).
 
@MaryStar ... it's a weird definition, what have you tried, how do you see the question? Add this to the question, don't type "@AlecTeal" here
 
The instructor's not doing that for this one. Anyway, we covered all of them in discussion.
 
@bolbteppa yeah i know (not really) about the represemtations on \pi_1 of moduli spaces
 
6:01 PM
@TedShifrin I am glad that despite my mental illness, I still graduated with a second upper.
 
maybe. hmm. i think i am starting to get it
 
Of course, when students asked me to go over a test question in review, I asked if they'd started by reading the posted solution. When they said NO, I said NO. I said I'd discuss any questions they had about the posted solution.
 
wait a sec
 
@AlecTeal I haven't do anything yet, since I haven't many examples for NP-complete problems and I don't really know what I am supposed to do...
 
Well, since there's no posted questions, I'm glad to discuss them in office hours tomorrow, or another set of office hours they were invited to arrange with me before the final.
 
6:01 PM
Yes, @Jasper, me too. My former student is extremely talented. I hope he'll have a happy life eventually.
 
@TedShifrin I wish my university posted solutions, it'd be nice to know if I'm right, or other approaches, I hate "prove that" questions for this reason because it's easy to write crap.
 
I don't usually post solutions in advanced courses, @Alec, but I will always answer questions in office hours, and I write reasonably detailed comments when I grade the exams.
 
OK, @bolbteppa, I think this relates to a question I asked my prof a few months ago : You have you dessins of algebraic curves over \bar{Q} and you know that G = Gal(\bar Q/Q) acts on the whole set of dessins transitively.
 
See my university isn't like that, the lectures recognise their questions and guard the answers... I'm sure I heard this one guy call question 2 "My precious"
 
Now, @bolbteppa, note that some dessins are not planar. You have an example right in that "What is" article.
 
6:04 PM
Yeah, I have that problem, too. For things like linear independence proofs there are only a few possible problems to give on an exam. A few years ago, for the Multivariable Math class, I started putting exam solutions behind a password :)
 
I once emailed a Cambridge physics professor for one chapter of notes that was missing on his website. I got no reply. The next day, he removed all the other chapters as well.
 
Look at the smallest genus surface on which your non-planar dessins embed.
 
OOPs @Jasper.
 
The Galois groups act on those surfaces, with the nodes of the dessin you hve embedded chucked out of the surface @bolbteppa
 
@TedShifrin I get it for those type of questions, there's only so much you can do, it's bookwork basically, but sometimes you get a gem of a question with many ways to answer, and some lovely shortcuts, I'd love to see what I might miss.
 
6:05 PM
THAT is your action on moduli spaces, I think
 
But I am whining again, who was it that was waiting for the second edition of a manifolds book by John Lee?
 
I generally save the most interesting questions for homework, not for exams, @Alec. But the European system is far different, I realize.
 
@AlecTeal That can only be me.
 
@Jasper worships at Jack Lee's feet.
 
Hi @DanielFischer!!! Could you take a look at this graph?
http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1065465/what-kind-of-edge-do-we-have

Aren't jh,ia forward edges and ag a back edge? Or am I wrong?
 
6:07 PM
OK, I have stuff to do. Have fun!
 
There seems to be many users pinging specific users for answers in this chat lately, lol.
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Later
 
@TedShifrin there was a course here where the final exam had an average mark of 7%, mode 4%
Everyone failed because they fix the pass at 65% going up in 10% increments
 
Funnily enough @bolbteppa I came up with a similar idea for Cayley graphs of groups and asked about them to my professor. Here's the bit I recall from his talk : G acts on the Cayley graph Cay(G). Embed Cay(G) onto the smallest genus surface M. G acts on the vertices and small nbhds of Cay(G) embedded in M.
Err. Now he said something about Nielson embedding theorem and 84(g-1) theorem which I can't recall anymore.
 
@JasperLoy I've gotten 2 of his, Topological manifolds and smooth manifolds, but you say there'll be a second edition of the Ri[that bloke] manifolds book?
 
6:09 PM
He's apparently been working on it for some time.
 
@AlecTeal Top and Smooth already has second editions. Lee is still working on the second edition of Riem.
 
Reception of the Riemannian manifolds book is more mixed than his previous two, which are very well-liked. I don't have any opinion on it since I've never read it.
 
@MikeMiller are we talking years or...?
 
I think so.
Jasper would know better than I.
 
@MikeMiller It is meant to be a quick course leading to nontrivial theorems with minimum machinery.
 
6:10 PM
@bolbteppa Now, here's an interesting idea : You have an algebraic curve f(w, z) over \bar Q. You have the dessin G of this curve. Now note that monodromy of the riemann surface of this algebraic curve acts on the vertices of G ;)
 
I like the manifold books, although I do think the smooth manifolds one is in a funny order (compared to say Tu's book)
 
yeah
 
I have been working on my mental problems for years too. I hope I solve it soon.
 
You will.
 
After that, I can work on mathematical problems.
 
6:11 PM
@bolbteppa So that might be something interesting to think about.
 
It is very sad, what happened to that John Nash.
 
The general idea is just to embed the dessins inside smallest genus surfaces.
 
What is the probablity that $x^2+bx+c = 0$ has a real solution?
 
@evinda I don't know. I don't know the definitions, and it looks all just wrong to me because apparently the "DFS" algorithm ignores the fact the it is a directed graph, so the vertex b ought to be unreachable from every other vertex.
 
What's the distribution on $b,c$, @VibhavPant?
 
6:14 PM
@MikeMiller distribution as in?
 
As in probability distribution.
 
I just upvoted answers to all my questions on SE and accepted answers to all of them too.
 
Probability doesn't make sense unless you've got a probability distribution.
 
given both $b,c$ vary, I just know I would have to find the probability that $b^2-4c \geq 0$
 
Ah the thing is that moduli space of curves of genus $0$ with $4$ points removed is $\Bbb P^1 \setminus \{0, 1, \infty\}$ @bolbteppa ;)
 
6:17 PM
@DanielFischer I think that it is actually unreachable from every other vertex.
The red edges I added show to the node which is the parent of the node from which the edge begins.
 
So let me make sure I understand: You have a drawing (dessins) of curves over \bar{Q} which means Q plus roots of polynomials over Q. Consider the non-planar drawings. Are you basically saying the nodes of the dessins are like the fixed points of the Galois group as it acts on this surface, or why are you removing the nodes? I would imagine moduli spaces are used as a way to distinguish the planar (1,3,2) against non-planar (1,2,3) (if that's right?)
 
I lost 5 kg the last 2 months.
 
@bolbteppa Note that the nodes of the dessins are branch points of the corresponding riemann surface, so they are fixed under the action of monodormy groups
But monodromy groups are precisely galois groups!
so to make the action on the dessins free, you have to chuck out the branched locus
this is what you do in branched galois covers, say. removing the branched locus (the nodes) to make the cover galois
 
@JasperLoy Wow! How did you achieve it?
 
@evinda Anyway, I don't know what should be right in that.
 
6:21 PM
@DanielFischer Ok, no problem...:)
 
@user159870 Just by eating less. Why do you have no account?
 
@BalarkaSen Too much for me dude, I have not done Galois covers so I would bluff too much sadly, very interesting though!
 
:19059865 I went to your chat profile and tried to click on the associated math SE account, but there was none.
 
@bolbteppa This is no big deal : you have to make the action of monodromy groups transitive on the sheets of your riemann surface. thus you have to remove little neighborhoods along the branch points.
 
@JasperLoy I do not know why it is so... I do have an account.. I have to look at it. Thanks for noticing it.
 
6:24 PM
@DanielFischer I will look at tha algorithm we were talking about yesterday.. :)
But could I ask you before that something else?
I want to describe an algorithm with time complexity $O(m)$ that, given a set $M$ with $m$ numbers and a positive integer $p \leq m$, returns the $p$ closest numbers to the median element of the set $M$.
How could we do this?
 
@JasperLoy At main there my account math.stackexchange.com/users/175343/user159870 I do not know why I cannot find it from here.
 
hehe that is crazy to justify, to understand how to do that I would need to do a lot of work
to remove little neighbourhoods along branch points!
 
well action of monodromy groups on the sheets of riemann surface leaves branch points fixed
 
@user159870 The link from chat redirects here, but that link redirects here. Why do the URL's have two different numbers before the same username?
 
@teadawg1337 I really do not know. I didn't know that there such a problem. Do you have an idea why this happens? Have I done something wrong?
 
6:29 PM
sheesh. i was looking at an article. dense stuff
throws article away go away grothendieck. i am not ready for you yet.
 
@PedroTamaroff I will be voting for you as mod. I also wish I were as handsome as you are.
 
I will be voting for you too @Pedro
 
I'm thinking in terms of ode's so it's perhaps not as natural
We lost a great man when he died!
 
I will grant it to @Chris'sis that the fact that $$\int_0^{2\pi}\log|1-e^{it}|dt=0$$ i.e. that $$\int_0^{\pi}\log \sin tdt=-\pi \log 2$$ is relevant to the proof of Jensen's formula.
 
@bolbteppa I told you to eject that BS definition of monodromies.
:P
 
6:31 PM
I think it will triumph over all adversities my friend, just you wait and see ;)
 
pee DEs, @bolbteppa
that's how i feel about your PDEs
hehehe
 
@evinda Start by finding the median in $O(m)$. That can be done by a modified quicksort.
 
hehe oh I know
 
I'm quoting Mike heh.
 
@BalarkaSen I at least encourage you to read Kline before you actually make that mental decision, being a teenager is too young to close your mind up to such a large area of math, especially since this is the historical source of your material ;)
 
6:34 PM
"pee groups" one was great.
I know, @bolbteppa, I get smacks everyday by my professor while doing that.
 
hehe good!
 
But I'll try Kline I guess. Thanks!
 
@DanielFischer That's the algorithm of Quicksort:
 
Can someone explain me the following definition??

http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/1068007/a-language-l-is-polynomially-transformable-to-l-0
 
How could we modify it @DanielFischer ? :/
 
6:48 PM
@evinda To find the median, we need the element in the middle of the array after sorting, or the two elements in the middle if the number of elements is even. Thus basically, at each step you only have one recursive call instead of two, since you don't need to sort the part of the array that comes after or before the median. That pushes the complexity down to $O(m)$, provided you choose the pivot in a way that guarantees that it is not too far away from the median.
 
@DanielFischer If we have only one recursive call, what parameters should we give to the function we call? :/
@DanielFischer How can we know to which interval the median belongs?
 
@evinda Either $p,q-1$ or $q+1,r$, depending on which contains the middle.
 
@DanielFischer Do we have to calculate the median?
 
Wow I see Computer Science stuff :O
@DanielFischer You a computer scientist? :D
 
@evinda Calculate? We determine it by almost-partially-sorting the array, not by calculation. Unless the number of elements is even, when the median is the mean of the two closest values.
@Sabಠ_ಠ Nope.
 
6:58 PM
How do you know the algorithms? I'm trying to learn them :p
 
@DanielFischer A ok.. But then how can we know to which interval the median belongs? :/
 
@Sabಠ_ಠ Program a bit. You will occasionally have the question "how do I do this efficiently?", then you go and look if thinking didn't turn up something good.
 

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