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12:00 PM
Ah that good map link is amazing.
All united through mathematics. <3.
 
No one on the north pole? Well that's a pity...
 
@BalarkaSen Yes. It seems to be analytic.
 
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Oh
I get it, I get it.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis AHH !! Cleo like answer !!! .. some hints please .. how did you derive it ? :D :D
 
@BalarkaSen I seem to be a master of comedy today :P
 
12:04 PM
@r9m I'll show you when I put things on paper. :-)
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis Thanks !!!! :D
 
@r9m Keep in mind: I only use real methods. :-)
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis cool !! I'm dying to know right !! :D
 
@r9m hows number theory going?
 
r9m
@BalarkaSen ggnb ;)
 
12:07 PM
huh?
 
r9m
good good not bad ;)
 
12:20 PM
huh?
Oh. Good, Good. Not bad.
 
@Chris'ssis why do you insist on real methods?
 
@UserX I do not insist.
 
@Chris'ssis If they are fake how can the be correct?
 
@Alizter what do you mean?
 
@Chris'ssis The methods have to be real, if you make them up surely they won't work!
 
12:22 PM
@Chris'ssis the correcr verb should have been "prefer" sorry
 
Sarcasm detected
 
@Alizter :-)
@UserX I'm used to the real methods and I like them very much, especially there where people says it's not possible to do thing by them but only by complex methods.
 
@Chris'ssis So what about the integral feynman could not do?
 
Moreover, my book will be full of solutions based on real methods.
@Alizter Well, I often use D.U.I.S.
 
@Chris'ssis It is a very nice method.
 
12:27 PM
@Alizter Yeah.
 
Does $\displaystyle \bigcup_{C_k \in \mathcal{D}} C_1 \cup C_2 \cup C_3 \cup \dots \cup C_n$ mean we union ALL $C_k \in \mathcal{D}$?
 
@UserX Why are you taking the union twice?
 
I fucked up
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That should have been $\bigcup_{C_k \in \mathcal{D}} C_k$ and my question is if it means all those unions
 
Yes.
 
12:33 PM
How do we denote the set containing $[-n,n], n \in Bbb N$ with that notation
 
Integers $k$ such that $|k|\le n$ for some $n\in \Bbb N$
 
I.e for $n=5$ the set is $\{-5,-4,-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3,4,5\}$
I want that union(\bigcup) notation
 
or alternatively $[-n, n]\subset \Bbb N$
@UserX Why?
It is pointless to write it that way.
 
@Alizter textbook uses it and the exercises have this set, I would like to know how to write it that way too.
 
It is similar to saying I want to write $n$ as a sum like $\sum_{k=1}^n1$
 
$\displaystyle \bigcup_{z\in [-n, n] \subset \Bbb N}\{z\}$
but then again it is pointless to write this way.
 
@r9m I computed such series.
 
That's more compact though
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis oh !! okay ! :)
 
Anyway, no battery left, bbl
 
12:46 PM
@r9m I'm immediately done.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis oh !! thats fast !
 
Good bye. I am going to go and get a hair cut
 
@r9m I'm done but I don't for know what reason numerically my answer is not correct. Hmmm, the only reason might be a simple constant I missed.
 
r9m
@Chris'ssis okay !! no hurry ! :-)
gtg ! bbl :)
 
@r9m Done
 
1:22 PM
0
A: How to calculate the closed form of the series

Chris's sis$$\sum\limits_{n = 1}^\infty {\frac{{{H_{\left[ {\frac{n}{3}} \right]}}}}{{{n^2}}}{{\left( { - 1} \right)}^{n - 1}}} =$$ $$\frac{1}{12}\log^3(3)-\frac{\pi^2}{36}\log\left(\frac{256}{243}\right)-\frac{7}{24}\zeta(3)+\frac{1}{2}\log(3)\operatorname{Li_2}\left(\frac{1}{6}\left(3-i\sqrt{3}\right)\ri...

@r9m ^^
 
1:47 PM
is it better to write '(-1)th' or '(-1)st' ?
 
@Chris's sis you said about me spying ? Why would I do that. What makes you think that im spying on anyone. Im not
 
-5
Q: Cracking the RSA by The Riemann Zeta Function

SiegHow to generalize the following Riemann Zeta Function? Here we have the visualization of the Riemann Zeta Function 3D Plot . We can observe clearly that all zeros are on the critical line. Although, the relation is an unconditional Primality test for any given integer and maybe considere as a st...

Thefuck is this crap
 
@DanielRust Minus first.
 
@DanielFischer I've always found that weird to say, but then again I catch myself saying minus oneth and it also sounds weird...
'nth where n=-1' :)
that works right?
 
I dislike inequalities, but perhaps someone here finds the question as re-interpreted in the comments an interesting one.
 
2:01 PM
That works. But You don't say "firth" unless you refer to a certain kind of body of water. You also say "$n$ plus first", don't you?
 
actually I think I say 'n plus oneth'
hmm I don't know
 
@Tharindu I'm not that important to be spied.
 
@UserX Go here, and type "Thierno" in the search box. I knew it was him even before hovering over the link at the end.
 
Looks like Cornell fixed their site. Every faculty page was down this weekend.
 
What's the point with this question that is not well-explained? One can answer it in various ways. I'll also answer for the other case when we have floor function there.
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A: How to calculate the closed form of the series

Chris's sisThe case where $\left[ x \right]$ is not considered floor function $$\sum\limits_{n = 1}^\infty {\frac{{{H_{\left[ {\frac{n}{3}} \right]}}}}{{{n^2}}}{{\left( { - 1} \right)}^{n - 1}}} =$$ $$\frac{1}{12}\log^3(3)-\frac{\pi^2}{36}\log\left(\frac{256}{243}\right)-\frac{7}{24}\zeta(3)+\frac{1}{2}\l...

@DanielFischer did they add you to the list of the integration gurus?
 
2:22 PM
@Chris'ssis Why should they (whoever "they" are)?
 
@DanielFischer The other gurus I mean that make up such lists ...
 
@Chris'ssis Are there such lists? Aside from everybody's own list ("I've seen xyz evaluate a lot of difficult integrals, so many in fact that I remember the name")?
 
@DanielFischer there is a post on MSE with such a list
 
Isn't that so off-topic that it got closed in under ten seconds?
And deleted immediately after?
 
@DanielFischer Yeah, indeed. I was a bit ironic to that list in my saying above. :-)
 
2:32 PM
I got so much rep today again, lol.
 
@JasperLoy Great. I didn't get any today.
And none were reverted :/ :D :D
 
@Sawarnik Well, partly because I answered a few questions yesterday.
 
Oh well.
 
If everything is predetermined, is then anything predetermined?
 
yes, as everything is ;)
 
2:37 PM
Is everything predetermined? If so, where does free will come in?
These are very deep questions that only the Buddha can answer.
When asked if all beings will attain Nibbana, the Buddha remained silent.
 
@JasperLoy What is "free will"?
 
@DanielFischer I do not know. I am not the Buddha, lol.
 
@DanielFischer A Hermitian metric is one in which the complex automorphisms are precisely the isometries, yes?
 
@DanielFischer I hope you are getting better. I seem to be getting better. Remember, there can be miracles when you believe.
 
Or rather, is that a consequence of a metric being Hermitian?
 
2:47 PM
@MikeMiller No, a hermitian metric is basically a function $\lambda \colon S \to [0,\infty)$ with only isolated zeros, which you use to define the length of curves via $$\int_0^1 \lambda (\gamma(t))\lvert\gamma'(t)\rvert\,dt.$$
 
Why should that play nicely with the complex structure?
 
Then you use the length of curves to define a distance as the infimum of the lengths all curves connecting the two points.
@MikeMiller Why shouldn't it? Some hermitian metrics play nicer than others. On the unit disk, $\frac{1}{1-\lvert z\rvert^2}$ plays very nice.
 
right. You just said in your comment to some question "the hermitian metric", as if there was a canonical choice of one for each complex manifold.
 
@MikeMiller Well, up to constants, there is only one that you can push down to all covered surfaces, since it needs to be invariant under deck transformations, which may be any automorphism. That is "the" hermitian metric [note: there are two "canonical" choices for the hermitian metrics on the disk and the sphere, those with curvature $\pm 4$ or those with curvature $\pm 1$].
And for $\mathbb{C}$, the canonical one is of course $\lambda \equiv 1$.
 
ah, I see. This is what I was confused about; I remembered a theorem that was something like "there's precisely one metric for which isometries are automorphisms", but apparently it was "there's precisely one metric invariant under automorphisms (with some extra condition to get rid of the second option)".
 
2:58 PM
Well, up to constant factors.
 
Sure.
 
And whether there is one metric for which the automorphisms are isometries or one metric which is invariant under automorphisms is the better formulation depends on whether you look at the metric in the topological sense ($d(x,y)$) or the "Hermitian metric" - which is somewhat akin to a "Riemannian metric" or a "Finsler metric".
 
@JasperLoy Wrong chat room for this kind of thing. I apologize. My point was that if everything is the colour red, does it make sense to call something red?
 
I've been meaning the latter, @DanielF
 
@MatsGranvik All things can be talked about in this chat, except what is flaggable, lol.Yes, it makes sense to me to call it red.
 
3:02 PM
@JasperLoy Ok, but red relative to what?
 
@MatsGranvik There is no need to ask relative to what. Imagine everything in this world is red, and you know what red means. If someone asks you the colour of any object, the answer will still be red.
 
@DanielFischer did you mean \int instead of \lin?
 
@robjohn Yes. If you could edit it, I would be thankful.
 
@DanielFischer fixed
 
Obrigado.
 
3:14 PM
I also considered the other case ...
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A: How to calculate the closed form of the series

Chris's sis$1)$ The case where $\left[ x \right]$ is not considered floor function $$\sum\limits_{n = 1}^\infty {\frac{{{H_{\left[ {\frac{n}{3}} \right]}}}}{{{n^2}}}{{\left( { - 1} \right)}^{n - 1}}} =$$ $$\frac{1}{12}\log^3(3)-\frac{\pi^2}{36}\log\left(\frac{256}{243}\right)-\frac{7}{24}\zeta(3)+\frac{1}...

 
3:35 PM
@MikeMiller Got to know a bit about geometric group theory today.
in the context of geodesic metric spaces.
 
3:48 PM
@BalarkaSen what is a geodesic metric space? I know what a geodesic is and a metric space, but I don't believe I've heard the combined term.
 
Okay, can someone please explain to me how this is an answer?
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A: Prove the product of two odd primes + 1 is never prime?

Jasper LoyIf $p$ and $q$ are primes larger than $2$, then $pq+1$ is even.

It just repeats the assertion right back at me. Repetition of assertion amounts to a proof now?
 
@robjohn A metric space $X^d$ where $d(x, y)$ for $x, y \in X$ are all geodesics.
 
I don't know any of that stuff, @Balarka. Maybe this summer I'll learn some.
 
@RegDwigнt It adds the fact that $pq+1$ is even. It fails to mention that $pq+1 > 2$, which together imply that it is not prime.
 
@Balarka This doesn't make sense to me. A number isn't a geodesic; a geodesic should be a path. So a geodesic structure on a metric space should be a metric space along with a "geodesic structure" of some sort that says what paths between points are geodesics...
 
3:57 PM
@MikeMiller That's what I mean.
 
@robjohn I missed something there, it's $n^2$ in numerator.
 
There is a geodesic between every two point in $X$
 
@DanielFischer Yeah. Jasper type answers.
 
@BalarkaSen okay... This is stronger than connected, I assume.
 
So it's just a metric space with a collection of paths for each $x,y$, which we call the geodesics between $x$ and $y$?
 
3:59 PM
@RegDwigнt It is not only an answer, but a good answer :-)
 
@MikeMiller Paths connecting $x$ and $y$ whose length is $d(x,y)$, I presume.
 
@MikeMiller No geodesics are defined by maps $f : [a, b] \to X$ with the supremum of the collection of distances of the partitions (i..e, length) being $b - a$.
 
How do you define lengths of paths in a metric space, @DanielF? I suppose one might try to do a Riemann sum of some sort but I would probably have to restrict to rectofiavlw paths.
 
@MikeMiller ^
 
Eh, of course we assume rectifiable, so that length isn't nonsense. Ok.
 
4:02 PM
@MikeMiller For $\gamma \colon [0,1]\to X$, define $$L(\gamma) = \sup \left\{ \sum_{k=1}^n d(\gamma(t_{k-1}),\gamma(t_k)) : 0 = t_0 < t_1 < \dotsc < t_{n-1} < t_n = 1\right\}$$
 
Right. I'd just like length of paths to always be defined, but clearly this isn't necessarily possible.
 
@MikeMiller It is always defined. Just not always finite.
 
$(X, d)$ metric space is geodesic if every two point $x, y$ in $X$ can be joined by some $f : [a, b] \to X$ with endpoints identified with $x$ and $y$.
 
Fair, @Daniel.
 
4:05 PM
The cool stuff is that you can always realize finitely generated groups as geodesic metric spaces by looking at the corresponding Cayley graph.
 
"Realize" them? How so?
 
Guys Eric's edit here should not be approved.
 
@MikeMiller Assign the edges of the graph to be of length 1.
 
He did not make the question "clearer". In a way, he "changed" the asker's question.
 
@robjohn lol, that was a silly question. I'm overloaded now, time for a break. :-)
 
4:07 PM
Then you get a canonical way to define metrics on the graph.
 
@Chris'ssis For most polynomials with integer coefficients, $\{f(n)/3\}$ is periodic :-)
 
@Balarka Yes, the metric on the Cayley graph is clear. It's just not obvious to me how this "realizes a group" as a geodesic metric space.
 
@robjohn Yeah, I simply couldn't focus anymore and had something else in mind. :-)
 
@MikeMiller Yes, obviously I mean realizing the Cayley graph of the group as a geodesic metric space, not the group itself ;) That the space is also a geodesic space is fundamental enough.
 
I suppose what you really want is "Every finitely generated group acts freely and properly discontinuously on a geodesic metric space."
 
4:12 PM
action is clear but not sure about a free action. what the hell is a discontinuous action?
 
2
Q: If $p$ and $q$ are prime numbers larger than $2$, then $pq + 1 $ is never prime

WillI am trying to prove the following: If $p$ and $q$ are prime numbers larger than $2$, then $pq + 1 $ is never prime. Any ideas?

Guys I have now edited the question again and you can see my edit remarks in the revision history as to why I edited.
 
You should check that the action is free. "Discontinuously" (confusingly) just means that the group you're acting with is discrete. Proper is the right kind of action if you want to quotient out by the action.
 
Oh OK.
An interesting stuff is that you can construct an "isomorphism" of geodesic metric spaces that identifies the spaces on which same groups with different generating sets act.
It's called a "quasi isometry".
 
If you want to say more, I'll listen.
 
@MikeMiller We know that Cayley graphs can change if the generating set of the group changes.
For example, look at (Z, <+/- 1>) and (Z, <+/- 1, +/- 2>)
So the geodesic metric space coming from the Cayley graph also gets a bit different. We don't want this to happen.
 
4:22 PM
@robjohn I see you, too, engage in this sport of "proof by repetition of assertion".
This is an answer because it is an answer.
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@RegDwigнt Well, if $p$ and $q$ are odd, $pq+1$ is even. There is only one even prime number, $2$, and that number is too small.
@RegDwigнt I was not claiming to justify the answer, I simply said it was a good answer.
 
In any case, @reg I have edited the question and my answer and hopefully you see it now.
 
Mhm, @Balarka?
 
@robjohn yes, it's just that you said that in reply to my question, but it didn't answer my question.
 
So construct a category of geodesic metric spaces with the morphisms $f : (X, d_X) \to (Y, d_Y)$ called $(K, e)$-qi-embeddings if and only if for all $x_1, x_2 \in X$, $1/K \cdot d_Y(f(x_1), f(x_2)) -e \leq d_X(x_1, x_2) \leq K \cdot d_Y(f(x_1), f(x_2)) + e$ for some $K, e > 0$
 
4:25 PM
@robjohn why is $pq+1$ even if $p$ and $q$ are odd? Remember, I am the OP, I only just told you I do not know nor understand that.
 
yikes
 
@JasperLoy I see that you have capped for today... I will look at your answer tomorrow :-)
 
@MikeMiller Exactly. So that's a NARQ in my book.
 
The isomorphisms then are qi-embeddings $f : (X, d_X) \to (Y, d_Y)$ such that there is a qi-embedding $f : (Y, d_Y) \to (X, d_X)$ such that $f \circ g = g \circ f = id$.
 
@robjohn LOL.
 
4:26 PM
Anyway, I got to catch a bus. Lators.
 
oh, I was yikesing at the definition above
 
Whoops sorry haven't defined $id$.
 
I am not paying much attention to the $pq+1$ problem, sorry
 
@MikeMiller I'd love to explain the intuition behind the definition, but gotta run.
 
It's the identity map, no need
 
4:27 PM
Catch you later
 
@robjohn did you see this one?
$$\int_0^{\infty}\frac{2^{x+1} \sin(x)}{1+2^{2x}+2^{x+1} \cos(x)} \ dx=\frac{2\log(2)}{1+\log^2(2)}$$
 
@Chris'ssis Looks like the imaginary part of a contour integral...
$$\frac1{1+e^{x(\log(2)+i)}}$$
 
@robjohn do you see any real method?
 
I know I've done some integral with $\cosh(x)+\cos(x)$ in the denominator... This is of the same form
$\cosh(\log(2)x)+\cos(x)$
 
@robjohn :D (yeah)
 
4:36 PM
@Chris'ssis However, I think I did that integral using contour integration
I remember computing a lot of residues for that
@Chris'ssis However, I think using that contour integral, the integral you cite should fall pretty quickly
This might even be a way to simplify my old answer. I'll have to check that out.
nope... the two answers I have are for even integrands
I might be able to use the real part of this function, though
 
@r9m don't miss my complete answer here math.stackexchange.com/questions/993125/…
 
Gotta run to do some things off line... BBL
 
@robjohn OK
 
@aliz I got 2k on Eng as well, now I can retire from SE, haha
 
@JasperLoy No. 2k doesn't count. 3k is the milestone ;)
 
4:49 PM
@Alizter Haven't seen Sarah for a week, wonder what she is doing, lol.
 
@JasperLoy I can't imagine why she would send a full stop.
 
@Alizter She was trying to be nice and give you a reply
 
@JasperLoy Maybe it is a secret message.
 
@Alizter Oh? What secret?
 
@JasperLoy I don't know. Is there some sort of secret encoded into a full stop?
 
4:51 PM
@Alizter OK. Let's hope she appears soon.
 
@JasperLoy Have you pinged her?
 
@Alizter No point. She doesn't log in to the site. I think email is better.
 
@JasperLoy She hasn't logged in for 8 days :O
 
@Alizter Hmm, maybe she is dealing with the problem she told me about, which I must keep a secret.
 
@JasperLoy You have hinted.
 
4:55 PM
Well, she did not tell me what to keep secret or not, I am just using my common sense, lol.
 
@robjohn I'm also off, I need a break ...
 
@aliz Do you have any secrets to tell me?
 
@JasperLoy Like what?
 
@Alizter I don't know.
 
@JasperLoy I had a hair cut today.
 
5:03 PM
@Alizter Me too. Wow! This is a sign. Maybe we will be brothers in our next life...
 
@JasperLoy I'm sure millions of other people also had their hair cut today.
 
@Alizter But only the two of us in this chat, so it is special.
 
@robjohn I think the community should do something about the serial downvoters, at least to know them, to be public their names.
@robjohn I might even understand the need of serial downvoting (I try to be less reasonable now) for some, but we need to know them, to be public on site.
 
@Chris'ssis I see that you have been getting many downvotes, let me give you some upvotes now...
 
Who wants to be a serial downvoter, OK, but we need to know them and they should assume this attutide totally ...
@robjohn Besides that, the accounts created only (or almost) for downvoting/upvoting might be deleted. This might be hard to check, I agree, but when there is enough evidence, there is no doubt that some accounts are created for spreading sh*t then they should be deleted I think.
 
5:16 PM
I need help
 
911
 
I need two pics for a question from geogebra but I don't know how to construct them
Can someone draw me 2 simple pics?
 
@UserX Oh, tell me.
Probably I may help.
 
@Chris'ssis Just say shit, lol.
 
@UserX What do you need to construct? :O
 
5:19 PM
@JasperLoy :D
 
Postimg fucked up my quality :/
Angle is $\theta$, new angle is $\theta '$
 
@UserX Why don't you upload it using just the upload button? :O
Its tough to see what is there.
 
It is tough to teach complex numbers.
 
 
@alizter Is Pure Math 1, Pure Math 2, Applied Math 1, Applied Math 2 by Bostock and Chandler still sold in the UK?
 
5:28 PM
Much better
 
Yeah :D
@userX Is there any relation between θ and θ' ?
 
@Sawarnik Yes, one has a prime and one does not.
 
If not, here it is:
 
The first is correct, the second should have had two right angles :P
Holy shit
Nevermind I just got the answer from your pic
Thanks ;D
 
@UserX Oh
that's why I asked. Do you want a new one?
 
5:43 PM
No, I got it. I owe you one.
 
:)
 
5:58 PM
Let me give you an integral that although seems tough at first sight, it may be computed in one line.
$$\int_0^{\infty} \frac{\log(x) \log(1+x^2)}{x(1+x^2)} \ dx$$
No special function is allowed.
 
@JasperLoy I have seen them in my schools library.
 
@Alizter Are there any standard textbooks in the UK for further math currently?
 
@JasperLoy Yes. Look up Edexcel A level maths
 
@BalarkaSen Hey Balarka! Got a question about this notation: Let $(X,O)$ be a topological space, $A\subset X$ a subspace and $x\in X$. Prove that $x\in \overline{A}$ $\iff$ Every neighbourhood of $A$ has a nonempty intersection with $A$. What does $\overline{A}$ mean here? I've only seen that in analysis as the closure of a set.
 
They have 18 modules
C1-4 are core, Fp1-3 are further pure maths, M1-5 is mechanics, S1-4 is statistics and D1 and D2 are discrete/decision maths
 
6:03 PM
@Alizter It's very sad that they removed Further Math in my country. They just keep making this place worse and worse. I hope I get to leave soon.
 
I am doing nearly all of these :P
 
@Chris'ssis Upvoted those 2 posts to neutralise the effect :P
 
@Alizter Sometimes, I think of getting these high school books to study.
 
@rehband OK, thanks ;)
@rehband Since you like integrals,series maybe you wanna see this one
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A: How to calculate the closed form of the series

Chris's sis$1)$ The case where $\left[ x \right]$ is not considered floor function $$\sum\limits_{n = 1}^\infty {\frac{{{H_{\left[ {\frac{n}{3}} \right]}}}}{{{n^2}}}{{\left( { - 1} \right)}^{n - 1}}} =$$ $$\frac{1}{12}\log^3(3)-\frac{\pi^2}{36}\log\left(\frac{256}{243}\right)-\frac{7}{24}\zeta(3)+\frac{1}...

 
@Chris'ssis Yep, I had just opened that post actually. Gonna see if I can understand it
 
6:06 PM
@JasperLoy Fp1-3 cover things that are usually almost Uni. However during the whole of A-level maths, a formal introduction to a limit is never even mentioned.
 
@rehband I used pretty advanced tools, the top ones.
 
@rehband Topological closure. $\overline{A}$ is $A$ with all it's limit points with respect to the topology $O$.
@Alizter modules?
 
@Chris'ssis It looks awesome...but I don't understand it :D :(
 
@rehband I don't miss the contest question here
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A: Integral Contest

Chris's sisFirst, let $-\log(\sin(\theta))=y$ that yields $$\underbrace{\int_0^{\infty} \log(y) \log(1-e^{-2 y}) \ dy}_{\displaystyle \pi^2 \log(A)-\frac{1}{12}\pi^2 \log(\pi)}-\frac{1}{2}\underbrace{\int_0^{\infty} \log(\pi^2+y^2) \log(1-e^{-2 y}) \ dy}_{\displaystyle\sum_{k=1}^{\infty} \frac{\operatornam...

 
@BalarkaSen Ok, weird...we didn't talk about limits with respect to a topology $O$ yet
 
6:09 PM
@rehband It's just the smallest closed set containing $A$.
 
@BalarkaSen Yeah ok. Merci
 
@BalarkaSen No. Not that modules :P
 
@Alizter I think Cambridge has dumbed down their undergrad syllabus over the years too, slightly.
 
@JasperLoy Really? How so?
 
@Alizter Well, once they did abstract manifolds in year 3, but later on they did only Euclidean manifolds, but now I don't know.
 
6:16 PM
@JasperLoy If I recall correctly you can do year 4 which goes into a masters degree and they definitely have abstract manifolds in that.
 
@Chris'ssis Unless there is a large number of downvotes in a short time period, the CMs don't consider it serial voting. Targeted downvoting is another item. I think that if someone gets a large proportion of downvotes from a given individual yet such a proportion is not given to others (representing a downvoter's tendency) and their proportion of downvotes from others is low (representing the OP's tendency) a script should flag targeted voting.
 
@Alizter Yes. The problem I have is that they squeeze what others do in 4 years into 3 years, and then do some very exotic stuff in year 4 instead of fundamental stuff.
 
@JasperLoy Maybe because they have already done the fundamental stuff?
 
@Alizter The year 4 courses vary greatly from year to year. You may not get the courses you want.
 
@JasperLoy I want math.
 
6:18 PM
@robjohn If such a script exists then it's good, I feel better. :-)
 
@Alizter Nope. I think there was once they did complex manifolds in year 4 but Euclidean manifolds in year 3, so there was no abstract manifolds at all.
@Alizter I mean you may not get the math courses you want.
 
@robjohn I just found a funny limit I'd add to my book, but with s solution of mine.
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Q: How is this series for the Euler-Mascheroni constant derived?.

CodyWe are familiar with the classic sum for Euler's constant $\gamma$: $$ \gamma=\lim_{n\to \infty}\left(\sum_{k=1}^{n}\frac{1}{k}-\ln(n)\right) .$$ But, how is this one derived?: $$ \gamma=\lim_{n\to \infty}\left(\frac12\sum_{k=1}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^{k+1}}{k(2k)!}n^{2k}-\ln(n)\right) .$$ I thou...

 
@JasperLoy I tend to not be too picky with what math I study.
 
@Chris'ssis I know there is one to detect and correct serial downvoting, but I don't know if there is a script to detect and correct targeted downvoting. The problem being that serial downvotes are easy to group (they happen in a short time span), whereas targeted voting may happen over a long span of time.
 
@Alizter If I could start all over, I might go for the 4 year course in Warwick instead of the 3 or 4 year course in Cambridge.
 
6:20 PM
@robjohn I see.
 
@JasperLoy In what way are complex manifolds not abstract manifolds?
 
@Alizter I envy you. You are young and smart, and you have a chance to study in top UK universities. Don't forget me when you win the fields medal.
@MikeMiller I was just referring to the usual smooth manifolds instead of the complex ones.
 
That seems unlikely to me. I don't know how one can meaningfully study complex manifolds without some basic smooth manifold theory.
 
@Alizter I think year 4 courses in Cambridge are more flexible. For years 1 to 3 they try to stick strictly to the schedules, which is minimal for lecturing and maximal for examining.
 
@Chris'ssis I saw that it was related to a cosine integral, but I see that that was pointed out by Sasha (and then upvoted Sasha's answer)
 
6:25 PM
@MikeMiller Maybe I remembered wrongly. Sorry, I am only a banana.
 
@JasperLoy It's thought that bananas are the most intelligent plant on Earth.
 
@JasperLoy your peel has brown spots?
 
@MikeMiller lol
 
@MikeMiller Anyway, their year 4 course is for students all over the world, while their year 1 to 3 course is more for locals.
Very hard for foreigners to get in, unless they are on some govt scholarship.
 
@JasperLoy Warwick is my second choice. Or maybe imperial college. I am not sure yet.
 
6:28 PM
@Alizter I think I might have gotten into Warwick or Imperial if I had applied. But I made a mistake. I only applied to Cambridge and my local university. Only two, lol.
@Alizter But at that time, I was starting to go mad, so it was also a good idea to just stay here and take an easy course. But of course, I should not have gone mad in the first place.
 
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@robjohn all gets reduced to computing $$\int_0^{\infty}\frac{1-\cos(t)}{t}- \frac{1}{t+1} \ dt$$
 
@aliz Today I went to a local bookstore and saw Pure Math 1 and 2, but not Applied Math 1 and 2. In the end, I did not get them.
 
@JasperLoy Today I went to the town library to look for math books but all I could find were dictionary (math) and integral tables. I also found a really really big log table.
I am going to try the college next.
 
6:34 PM
@Alizter All pretty useless to me.
 
@JasperLoy Log tables are probably one of the most redundant books ever.
 
@Alizter One good thing about my uni is the library. The courses suck, but the libraries are well stocked. You know, we have lots of $$$, no brains, but we have $$$.
 
hehe
 
@alizter I like to whine. I hope you don't get too bored. I also like to repeat the same thing over and over and over.
Anyone heard of the Hua Loo Keng School of Mathematics in China?
 
Quick sanity check. Say I have some $k$ segments, each has $n$ points in them, each point 0 or 1. We know for sure each segment has at least a signle point with value 1. So the probability that two given segments have the point of value 1 at distance less than $n$ between them is $(n^2-n-2)/(2n^2)$.
At least.
 
6:40 PM
@Studentmath You are completely insane. I do not understand you.
 
:)
@Studentmath But I am ignorant :P
 
(:)
 
This school writes its own set of math textbooks. All olympiad style. I have been looking online but can't find a complete set. I think I saw a complete set 20 years ago in a local bookstore.
 
6:44 PM
@Alizter Aha, but I was referring to the HLK school for 7-18 year olds, lol.
Anyway, it's all written in Chinese, ugh.
@mike Is there a complete set of textbooks for high school math in the US on amazon.com?
 
@JasperLoy I know woman or female is too much too much in chinese.
 
@Alizter I have no idea what you mean.
 
@JasperLoy When you write woman in chinese you repeat the symbol for "too much" twice.
 
@JasperLoy There is no complete set of textbooks for US high school math. The textbooks schools use is different even for schools that are 5 miles away from each other.
 
@Alizter I still don't get it. I think maybe you got that wrong.
 
6:47 PM
@JasperLoy There is nothing to get. The symbol for woman in chinese is the symbol for "too much" repeated twice.
@Studentmath ):(
 
@Alizter Exactly, I am trying to figure out what that means, lol.
 
Hello, I have a question: Is there a way to give someone directly some of the own points, because of a good answer?
 
I guess it can be interpreted as too much hassle or something similar
 
@tampis You should just upvote his answer and leave it at that.
 
@tampis Yes, using a bounty.
 
6:49 PM
Today I commented to Jonas Meyer that he need not convert his elementary answers to CW mode, that he deserved rep for them too.
 
Sheldon L. gave a good answer at math.stackexchange.com/questions/936462/… which took him a lot of time (I already started a bounty on the question and I would like to add additional 50 points to the bounty)
 
I don't know if that's possible. At the very least, you have to wait until your first bounty is disbursed.
 
I think Jonas Meyer has given out the most bounties.
 
Yes, it seems like you can. You may have to wait some time after the first one.
 
Does anyone actually read Lang's Basic Mathematics?
It seems it would make a good high school course.
Oh, he wrote Geometry with Gene Murrow too.
 
6:53 PM
Okay, so I have to start a new bounty and award it to Sheldon as soon as possible?
 
Or as late as possible :)
(there's no time limit on awarding a second bounty; I just don't know how long it takes before you're allowed to0
 
math.stackexchange.com/help/bounty says: "Bounties must have a minimum duration of at least 1 day."
 
so I guess after one day I can award the bounty...
 
Mike Miller can be abbreviated to Mimi, a beautiful name.
 
6:56 PM
Mimi.
 
Mimi is the character in the opera La Bohemia by Puccini.
 
@robjohn it's interesting that integral can be reduced to $$ \lim_{s\to 0} \left( \operatorname{Ei}(-s) +\frac{ e^{-s}}{2}\log\left(1+\frac{1}{s^2}\right)\right)$$
 
I prefer the name I already have
 
Once my username was Jason Bourne.
I like how Jason anagrams to Jonas, which is the name of my bro Jonas Teuwen.
Also, Armani anagrams to Marina, both very nice names.
 

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