The Bridge

badp

10:05

> This one seems legitimate. Sony actually rolled back from 4.45, you can't even download it anymore. So anyone who hasn't got the update yet should be safe, though I don't know what people who have already been affected are supposed to do.

I guess you're safe for now

kalina

10:16

bored

@badp

what do you think to this answer

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A: Candy Crush Saga Game Strategy

Many thanks to Agent 86 for your candy crush guide. Theres some really great tips and advice there. I really think the key to successfully completing any level of CC (from what Ive seen & heard from all the ppl playing it) is having a good initial layout to begin with Therefore knowing how to exit &

it's like an all-in-one comment/answer/question

badp

hm

kalina

part of it needs turning into a comment or deleting

part of it needs turning into a question or deleting

badp

I don't think the answer part of it works

kalina

and then, is everything that is left worth keeping?

badp

I ought to try

(as you can see from the comments though I was already looking at the question)

kalina

10:19

I don't read comments

also you haven't commented on that answer

just sayin'

The only reason I'm asking is it is getting flagged NAA

and if I edit it there won't be much left

and you need to get your edit stats up ^^

badp

I edited it and there's plenty left

kalina

yes well you're not me

now I can decline this flag

badp

I'm just saying, what she's suggesting, it doesn't work

kalina

OH so it's a wrong answer?

does that mean we can just delete it

badp

kalina

10:22

we had this discussion lastnight actually

I say discussion

badp

...unless it's different on iOS, I don't see how I should get to peek at the board before I hit play

kalina

it was more like a "kalina don't do that" ... "I will do what I want" ... "but you shouldn't" ... "zzzz"

badp

@kalina Not sure, it might be right on iOS

@kalina Moderators don't moderate wrong answers

kalina

I know

users might though

also, me having a safety net on everything I click is the reason I'd never nominate myself for the role

badp

Pesky users gon' be pesky

kalina

10:24

I am not pesky

badp

You are pesky personified

kalina

I am the best user between the hours of 8am and 2pm

badp

When I open the dictionary at the word pesky, I get "see also: kalina"

kalina

you just hate me because I am intermittently troublesome for you

badp

I don't hate anybody

except for the people I do

kalina

10:25

do too

see

if there were no repercussions you'd ban me and delete my account in a heartbeat

badp

At times I'd like to make rash decisions, of course.

Like, when you say that not banning people for saying the word "rape" equals supporting and condoning rape

kalina

indifference is basically the same as condoning it

badp

also not

kalina

also is

if there were fewer indifferent people in the world, it would be a much better place

badp

It's not indifference, it's giving the room the benefit of doubt that we can discuss tough matters in a civilized and rational manner

See also the amount of times you have complained about "freezing a room of 30 for the discussion of 2"

spyder

10:28

@badp @kalina

kalina

yet that still happens frequently

badp

So you don't want that to happen anymore, except when you want it

kalina

I'd rather hellfire rained down upon the peasants

@spyder we don't need to

badp

So you'd like me to delete users rashly, except when it's you

kalina

this isn't an argument, or a heated discussion

no, I said given the chance you would delete me

also in context of the current discussion the words would be temporarily suspend

and let's face it, I've been on the receiving end of that enough times that the concept doesn't even phase me anymore

badp

10:31

I've also gotten my share of flags before I got a diamond, dear

kalina

although I did get banned over the weekend for something that I really shouldn't have

can't believe I got a 30 minute ban for stating "I like penis"

spyder

I read your dialogue and laughed. Colleagues already look askance at me :)

badp

@kalina I got 30 minutes for quoting "I'm on a boat"

kalina

if I can get banned for that, but somebody else can be sexist with images and demeaning text that results in the room being frozen rather than him being banned, there is something wrong

and it's not me

@badp -.-

and don't say "flag it"

he knew what he was doing

he was posting it and immediately deleting it

in front of several moderators who decided room timeout was the right tool to use

badp

was I around? I think I might've been

not sure though

kalina

10:34

no your teeth were on fire

if you had been around I have no doubt that he would have been smacked in the face

badp

oh, so this is like the second time somebody decided to be that much of a smartass

kalina

I actually said at the time "I wish badp was here"

that's how bad it was

badp

@kalina Thing is, when people regularly complain about moderators taking action, you get a reputation that sticks with your room and soon - moderators stop taking action

kalina

moderators should moderate

badp

Manis is roughly the last guy that's left bothering to do something about it

kalina

10:35

I've only complained about actions taken outside of that

badp

Moderators are volunteers and they get not to moderate something if they so desire

kalina

yes, moderators are volunteers

they volunteer to moderate

badp

Do you know of Ivo Flipse?

kalina

if they don't want to moderate, stop volunteering

it comes with the territory, you can't use the volunteer excuse

badp

Tsk tsk tsk, we're constantly encouraged to not moderate what we don't feel like moderating.

kalina

10:38

well, if stackexchange encourage you not to moderate then damn, there goes my reason for not nominating myself

badp

Ivo's a mod for fitness.SE; he used to hang around here. One day he decided to pin a message. People gave him hell because he wasn't a mod for Gaming, although any random owner could've done the same. He stopped hanging around. The mood hasn't really changed since

Grumpy Lazers

0

Q: Retinues in patch 1.101

I'm playing as Ireland in patch 1.91 (I'm not sure now since I've upgraded yesterday). I'm the King of Ireland, Wales and Scotland now, so I'm pretty large now. My retinue points limit was 9k which allowed me to have a 5k of retinues (heavy infantry mixed with cavalry and skirmish forces). After ...

crusader-kings-2

kalina

I don't care if you're a mod or not, or a room owner or not, if something needs moderating, that's the role you nominated yourself for

badp

@kalina Well you do have some fuzzy minimum amount of flags to deal to keep your diamond

kalina

@badp I am pretty much top of nearly every user statistic apart from reputation and close/reopen votes

badp

10:39

@kalina That's kind of how I feel - if I can fix it I oughta - but that's just me being me.

@kalina You do know I was the top editor when I nominated

:P

kalina

I am top editor by miles now

badp

Grats!

kalina

I know

I still don't have enough confidence in my own choices to have access to a bunch of buttons that nuke things though

I would much rather have to have multiple others agree with me for something to happen

badp

I'm not trying to talk you into nominating

kalina

Even if you were, I wouldn't

It would be a bad idea

badp

10:42

Yeah, you'd post your picture and whatnot

kalina

I'm never going to do that

I have done that once, and I will never do it again

badp

You're missing an "again" there :P

kalina

and it was many years before I arrived here

but back to the original point, moderators being volunteers is irrelevant, they volunteered to be in the role, so they should perform the role

stating anything along the lines of "I'm a volunteer, I don't have to put up with this" basically equates to "I should stop volunteering because I am not fit for the role"

badp

No, that's not how it works. @GraceNote can probably tell you more.

kalina

that's how volunteering works everywhere else in the world

what if all of your volunteers decide they don't want to deal with a particular issue?

does that issue just not get dealt with?

badp

10:46

Has it happened?

kalina

multiple times

two citable examples; the time that retrosaur and scootaloo spammed the fuck out of the bridge to the point where we all left

and the sexism thing from the other day

in both instances, rather than take direct action, the room was suspended

badp

that's not lack of moderation to me

or having an issue that wasn't dealt with

kalina

really?

badp

You may not agree on how it was dealt but somebody did deal with it

kalina

in the first instance for sure we chose to leave because nobody would take action

badp

10:47

Also... chat really is lowest priority

Finally, "no action" is also a possible valid course of action

kalina

which is strange, because chat is the real time portion of the site

badp

Chat is also the lowest priority portion of the site

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kalina

room owners need more functionality like chan ops

that would solve everything

Martin Sojka

EVERYTHING

kalina

change bans from chat wide to channel wide

EVERYTHING

ALL THE THINGS WILL BE SOLVED

so I've been playing this game called Universe Sandbox

and I just don't get it

there are only so many times that I can crash the Earth into the Sun, or fling the moon off into deep space, before I get bored

badp

10:53

Fling the sun into a sun

kalina

I did that too

badp

Was it worth it?

kalina

I also resized the sun so it swallowed up most of the solar system

no not really

Martin Sojka

So it lacks challenges and you aren't astronomer enough to create your own.

badp

Black holes?

kalina

10:54

I created a black hole too

badp

Did you make it swallow the entire universe?

kalina

I changed the flight path of 99942 Apophis so that it impacted Earth

Martin Sojka

Black Holes just aren't fun without proper relativistic effects and being able to chose your frame of reference.

spyder

Andromeda–Milky Way collision is very epic :)

badp

It's not like there's time inside a black hole

...is there?

kalina

10:55

-.-

Universe Sandbox made me so bored that I am bored of this conversation

what you should do is get a copy of Fractal

so you can learn how to play it

and then write a guide on the best way to play

so you can answer my question

and thus earn reputations

Martin Sojka

@badp It's not like there is a "there" inside a black hole. Also, in the reference frame of an object falling into the black hole, you'll never reach the Schartzschild radius, much less what's inside.

badp

@MartinSojka I'm aware. Time dilation and stuff.

kalina

It is available for purchase in the new Humble Bundle

of which half of the games gave a good enough first impression to stay installed on my phone

Grace Note

@badp Manish.

Manish Earth. Not Manis Hearth.

fredley

Morning!

spyder

11:10

@fredley 5:08 PM

Anyway, hi :)

user20683

@spyder It's always morning somewhere

fredley

@spyder Eh, if it's when I get up it's the morning

spyder

@WorldEngineer yep

@fredley true story, bro :)

ChrisHateZ

Did anyone play Knights of Pen and Paper Plus 1?

I'll take that as a no.

spyder

@ChrisHateZ indie?

ChrisHateZ

11:13

@spyder Don't think so. I think it's published by Paradox.

It's an pen-and-paper RPG simulator.

But then again the game is on indiedb and the authors say it's an indie game.

Hm, steam also listed it under indie.

badp

@GraceNote Whoops.

kalina

@fredley 12:18pm

fredley

@kalina I didn't go to bed until 7, so that's acceptable

kalina

@fredley HOW DARE YOU PREACH SLEEP PATTERNS TO ME AND THEN ADOPT MY OLD SLEEP PATTERN

ChrisHateZ

@fredley 1:19 pm But morning.

fredley

11:19

@kalina For one night

kalina

@fredley die in a fire

Martin Sojka

@ChrisHateZ Paradox publishes a lot of "almost indie" games, they even licence their older engines for free to such teams - the catch being that you have to publish through them, have an NDA on the whole thing, and they chose who they want to allow tinkering with it.

fredley

9 mins ago, by fredley

@spyder Eh, if it's when I get up it's the morning

@kalina No

ChrisHateZ

@fredley Haha

kalina

@fredley you don't get a choice in the matter, I'm a firestarter

ChrisHateZ

11:19

@MartinSojka I see.

fredley

@kalina Some people don't mind being on fire

spyder

@kalina the law of conservation of sleep patterns

fredley

My pattern will be back to normal tonight

This was a temporary interruption

spyder

@fredley do not lie, we are not draftsmen :)

Grace Note

If you have a regular sleep pattern, especially one wherein you regularly wake up at a particular time as well, then a day or two off in which you don't get as much sleep usually has no large impact and you will, indeed, be back to your normal sleep pattern immediately.

spyder

11:31

@GraceNote Patterns are useless for me. No matter how much I slept, when I woke up before 9 am - I am sleepy.

Grace Note

Should adapt to wake up at 9 then.

fredley

developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/…

spyder

@GraceNote thanks, capt :D

fredley

Also developer.android.com/reference/android/hardware/…

Those crazy Googlers

spyder

@fredley 3.5303614E-7 for Death Star? Hmm... So weak gravity

fredley

11:37

@spyder Must be more than that right?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@ChrisHateZ Paradox is basically Big Indie.

spyder

@fredley well, I do not know what it is made and what size :) But I always thought that it roughly the size of the moon

fredley

@spyder True. From the film though they don't appear to be in low gravity

kalina

@spyder this

FEichinger

@spyder It's largely hollow, as opposed to a solid rock.

spyder

11:42

@fredley another way: creating artificial gravity is possible with the help of centrifugal forces

kalina

I can sleep for 15 hours in a night, and still feel sleepy when I wake up

fredley

@spyder Artificial gravity is indistinguishable from the real thing

@kalina Well done

kalina

@fredley 15 hour sleeps are awesome

fredley

@kalina I had those when I was your age

kalina

when I sleep like that at the weekend I don't feel sleepy when I wake up

it must be work

@fredley listen up old man

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spyder

11:43

@fredley I would like to point out another way to create gravity

M'vy

15h...

kalina

just because you require a certain amount of predictability in your life doesn't mean I do too

fredley

@spyder Please write up, pretty sure there's a Nobel prize in there

@kalina Then your life is obviously not as good

kalina

my life is awesome

it was even more awesome before you told me that regular sleep would make me invincible

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because back then I used to get by on no sleep at all

playing games all night with Americans

now I feel tired if I stay up past midnight

STOP STARRING ME THE THINGS I AM SAYING ARE NOT THAT INTERESTING

9

fredley

@kalina I'd like to point out: This isn't me

spyder

11:46

whistles

kalina

@fredley I know it isn't, you're only interested when I talk about penis

4

fredley

@kalina I am more interested, yes

kalina

@fredley so it's fair to say that you like penis?

fredley

@kalina I am amused when you talk about penis. That is the extent of it.

kalina

@fredley why are you amused when I talk about penis?

fredley

11:48

@kalina Intrinsic immaturity.

spyder

fredley

Sometimes it's good to give the side of me that thinks "LOL PENIS" an airing, and I choose to do that here.

kalina

penis is no laughing matter

Fluttershy

@spyder (cc: @kalina)

Oh.

Hi.

kalina

Hi.

spyder

11:50

@Fluttershy /)

kalina

Strange how @Fluttershy appears out of nowhere the moment we start talking about penis

;)

Fluttershy

@kalina It's like my spidey-sense.

fredley

@spyder denied

Fluttershy

@spyder (\

kalina

@fredley DENIED

fredley

11:51

@kalina I'LL DENY YOUR FACE

kalina

Your face was born DENIED

spyder

kalina

what does Freud have to do with anything

OrigamiRobot

-4

Q: Which champion can lead the team to victory when all allies are newbies?

I'm an APC lover and I usually play champions like lux and annie. When I play the game with my newbie friends, I'm always attacked at first in group battle. I find every enemy will try to kill me. Because in the lane phase I will gank a lot, the enemies hate me very much. I won't survive in most ...

league-of-legends

M'vy

@OrigamiRobot closing

OrigamiRobot

11:53

robodance

spyder

Bye. I going home

kalina

you still smell

Grace Note

@spyder Have a safe trip~

spyder

@GraceNote thanks :)

kalina

isn't GnomeSlice due back soon?

THIRTY FOUR DAYS

...

StrixVaria

11:58

whendoesgnomeslicecomeback.weebly.com

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M'vy

@StrixVaria wut?!

StrixVaria

I didn't make it.

kalina

yes you did

you miss him

don't lie

StrixVaria

I made this one: timeanddate.com/countdown/…

kalina

those two timers are out of sync

StrixVaria

12:14

@kalina I only had a date available when I made mine.

I didn't know what time of day it would end.

kalina

Meh

Is it hometime yet

StrixVaria

I have reverse hometime in a few minutes.

The worst time.

Martin Sojka

@kalina hometi.me

Fluttershy

11.5 hours for me... =(

fredley

I am at home already

and at work

kalina

12:30

3 hours, 59 minutes, 40 seconds :(

@StrixVaria work time?

StrixVaria

@kalina Yep.

And I actually have to get going now.

kalina

poor you

Grumpy Lazers

0

Q: Is it possible to get all your stats to 100 in Skyrim?

Is this possible and if so what is the quickest way to achieve it? I've been trying to upgrade everything as I farm for experience I cant see me hitting 100 on everything before the level cap is reached. Any ideas? I don't include mods or glitches in my gaming on Skyrim btw.

skyrim ps3

Ben Brocka

Don't update your PS3 yet (version 4.45 from June 18th), turn off auto update (PS+) until further notice

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Sounds like it's mostly affecting users with upgraded hard drives (and it sounds like a bug I've had for a while) but it's serious enough Sony pulled the update from their site. I don't know if it still shows up if you check for updates on your PS3 or not.

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:46

John McAfee would like to show you how to uninstall his anti-virus software. Also, how to do so while taking lots of drugs.

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