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13:00
How's the history of the carrier with Android firmware updates?
That's probably the most important question.
@kalina Look at your phone's screen. See the dirt on there? How's your IR node gonna work in the long run, when you touch it like that all the time?
Oh look, they're shutting down SimCity Social
@YiJiang'sEvilClone "You want to play a pseudo-MMO SimCity game? Go play SimCity 5!"
@FEichinger never really had that problem, screen is a bit mucky but I use my nails to push buttons (ie: the power button you're saying is going to be covered in thick layers of grease and sweat)
@FEichinger Ha, ouch
13:02
i was shocked to learn they are shutting down the wii services.
@kalina Wouldn't call it thick, but probably enough for the IR node to work not as well as expected in the end. And, again, it's also a mechanical piece that's easy to break. No need to add another sensitive piece in there.
@FEichinger if it breaks -> get replacement
how long is the contract?
how long is the warranty? ;/
how come these values aren't identical :/
plus apparently under "moderate" use the battery lasts >24 hours
It's still an inconvenience having to get a replacement at all.
13:05
contract is 24 months, phone is insured for as long as I keep paying them
I wouldn't mind it in red but I guess I'm going to have to go for silver
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A: Where is the save files directory?

ananjaserfor pirated users there is NO square enix folder it is named SKIDROW and there is a folder in it with numbers and in it there is the save file

@badp I'm not familiar with the type of thing that I'm seeing
Though that reminds me, turns out more recent versions of PHP have a limit of 1000 POST variables by default, and our payroll form at some locations can exceed it, so that was fun. It's such a nasty form
How do you end up with a 1000+ POST anyway?
13:09
@BenBrocka 1000? Was the application saving its state using hidden input elements?
Because I really can't see how a human can handle 1000 form elements on a single page
maybe a list containing 50ish entries with 20 parameters each?
@YiJiang'sEvilClone No, it's just a form with input fields for: each employee x each earning code (overtime, vacation etc) x each day of the week
1000/7 =
142 employees, wouldn't take long at all.
@djsmiley2k You wouldn't have a central spread-sheet-ish form for that, usually, however.
usually just a couple dozen employees at most, but the earning codes (usually 4 per employee by default) make it hell
13:12
well crap
plus hidden inputs for employee name per column and some other crap
someone I "knew" on irc who did lots of df modding
appently.
she died :/
@FEichinger indeed, it's not sensible, but thats how you get it quite easily to 1000 POSTs
Help! I'm stuck in TVTropes hell! At work!
13:12
No clue what happened, theres no inf :<
@djsmiley2k I was talking about reasonable ways of getting 1000+. :P That's not reasonable.
@FEichinger Have to input them into the payroll system somehow
@MBraedley Alt+F4. It is the only way.
you think any kind of HR is reasonable?
@MBraedley evacuate the internet
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13:13
@YiJiang'sEvilClone alt+w
@BenBrocka Spreadsheet with an edit page per employee?
@YiJiang'sEvilClone Power button
@FEichinger clicking through 2 dozen forms multiple times per week vs a single form a few times per week
@fredley Tactical nuke in the general direction of the TVtropes server
It might make the per-page load times better but it would be even more annoying to input
plus goodbye keyboard controls
13:15
@BenBrocka Well, having to change it all the time for inidividual employees is just as much of a problem there.
Anyways, it's a setting in a perdir php.ini. Should be easily fixable.
TV Tropes, also known as Television Tropes and Idioms, is a wiki that collects and expands on various conventions and devices (tropes) found within creative works. Since its establishment in 2004, the site has gone from covering only television and film tropes to also covering those in a number of other media such as literature, comics, video games, and even things such as advertisements and toys. It is known for approaching topics in a casual and humorous tone—cyberpunk author Bruce Sterling once described its style as a "wry fanfic analysis." Content TV Tropes initially focused on the ...
@FEichinger Yeah, was very easy to fix . Not as easy to discover though, for whatever reason it's only a warning not an error, and since it didn't trigger on a displayed page (only on the save action which doesn't render a page) I never got the warning output in development
@BenBrocka Error implies the further script cannot be executed. Warning just implies "something might be fishy here".
Makes sense for it to be only a Warning, even though that does make it hard to pinpoint.
@fredley Oh god, you're making it worse
@MBraedley You wait. I'm going to make this much worse
13:23
<?php
function exception_error_handler($errno, $errstr, $errfile, $errline ) {
    throw new ErrorException($errstr, $errno, 0, $errfile, $errline);
}
set_error_handler("exception_error_handler");

/* Trigger exception */
strpos();
?>
Example straight off the PHP documentation. Turns any error into an exception. Can be combined with printing the full stack trace too.
I have just ordered a HTC One
should arrive in... 10 days
> Fixed bug #64515 (Memoryleak when using the same variablename two times in function declaration).
Finally! That was a nasty exploit.
@kalina Do you already own a smartphone?
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Q: Can we onebox TVTropes?

fredleyBecause, you know, that would be fun: Perhaps only in Gaming/SciFi/TV&M?

@MBraedley I have a 4s
13:30
Like... an iPhone?
@fredley No. nononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononono
@LessPop_MoreFizz Sadly, you only get one downvote
@OrigamiRobot ...
@fredley And I get zero >.>
@kalina I had more respect for you than to think you'd have an iPhone.
13:32
@OrigamiRobot And yet, a magic card of me has still never been made. I SEE HOW IT IS.
@OrigamiRobot I see, you've got issues with me owning multiple Apple devices
@fredley Fake Daft Punk leaks have started.
@OrigamiRobot You don't really hate iPhones until you've had to develop for one
@kalina Apple makes good devices!
@LessPop_MoreFizz Yay! I will believe nothing.
13:33
@fredley @Raven has told me about it.
@LessPop_MoreFizz And shitty services!
@LessPop_MoreFizz I have an iPad, an iPhone and an iPod
@fredley This is true. I mostly use icloud stuff out of inertia, but yeah, they are very very bad at services.
@kalina The triumvirate of Apple
They make adequate devices and charge outrageous prices.
13:34
The only service apple is good at is repair and warranty service. They are actually better at that than most other tech companies.
@OrigamiRobot The hardware is top notch, but then so are top-tier android devices.
@fredley @OrigamiRobot - iPad: cost me nothing, iPod: cost me nothing, iPhone: free phone, crap contract
@OrigamiRobot You do realize how silly the phrase 'outrageous prices' sounds when you comparison shop most apple stuff these days, right?
@LessPop_MoreFizz This is somewhat true. Getting my macbook fixed was frustrating compared to getting my Dell fixed
The only apple stuff that's outrageously priced is hardware that's due for a new model, because of the way their product cycle works
(Substantially less frequent updates than competitors).
13:35
@LessPop_MoreFizz With new model meaning "new charger"
Dell: Do a few minutes of online chat, a man comes round a few days later and fixes it in your home in an hour. Apple: Book an appointment a week in advance, then surrender your laptop (and its root password!!) for a week while it's fixed.
@OrigamiRobot No, meaning any sort of speed or tech spec or hardware bump.
@fredley depends on the sort of issue.
You're right.
why is it so difficult to get these things in red
13:36
@LessPop_MoreFizz I've had motherboards replaced on both.
@kalina eh?
@fredley Logic boards on most macbooks are a royal PITA. Usually takes me like 4-6 hours.
@fredley htc one apparently comes in black, silver and red
@kalina So do Apple devices...
reviews say that black attracts finger prints which would set off my OCD and have me cleaning it all the time
13:37
5 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot
@kalina I had more respect for you than to think you'd have an iPhone.
silver is nice, but I want a red one
@OrigamiRobot I don't care, I know you hate me anyway, this is not new news
Only for iPods, other stuff is actually shitty cases, but still
meh, silver it is
@kalina Wait, isn't that the one with "Facebook Home"?
13:39
@Unionhawk no, its a htc so it has htc sense
@OrigamiRobot Oh yeah, good thinking. TV Tropes should definitely be oneboxed on Personal Productivity. ;) — Bill the Lizard 2 mins ago
@kalina Yes, but the new Sense.
@FEichinger yeah but that isn't "facebook home"
@fredley I'm famous!
13:42
I kinda want to be able to see vote counts on MSO right now ...
@fredley doesn't Mac have sudo?
(Without data.SE'ing it)
I'd much rather give them an account
@FEichinger +/-4
@badp Yes
Hell I don't think I have a root password on my box
13:43
@fredley Turbs famous.
the camera on this phone seemingly takes good pictures in the dark
@OrigamiRobot You're obsessed, robot
@kalina Which phone?
@fredley the same phone I've been talking about for the last hour, I'd guess
@badp unrelated to apple products, but if someone wants my root password, I give them my middle finger (because fingerprint scanner. And fsck that person as well)
13:45
@kalina Yeah it's a good phone. Pro G is good, best one we tested at MWC, although I think this HTC phone is newer
aww I was hoping somebody would come out with "its only 4 megapixels"
@kalina Megapixels don't have much to do with camera quality
@kalina The photos are pretty good, but Zoe is also a weird feature.
@fredley yes but I wanted to link this:
@LessPop_MoreFizz In all fairness, I hate 90% of the products that Apple makes. As in, I hate all smartphones, laptops, etc.
13:48
@OrigamiRobot hates everything, the musical
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I hate music too.
@OrigamiRobot I hate robots
@OrigamiRobot I like everything @OrigamiRobot hates
@fredley I like you!
Do you hate everything I like?
I hate myself.
13:50
@OrigamiRobot I did not say the relationship was symmetric
@fredley I didn't say you did. I just appreciate the spite.
List of things @OrigamiRobot likes:
1. @fredley
2. Spite
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Q: What are the differences in strategy between high level and low level play in Dota 2

BlueTrinWhenever I team up with some friends, I end up playing higher level bracket games since they are much better at Dota than myself. However I get totally destroyed in these games. Usually in pubs of my level, I often end up being one of best players of the game, but when playing with this team, I ...

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Q: Finding Grenade launcher ammo for getting a relic on Research base

MorpheusI have completed the game already and i am at 99% completion right now I need to find just one relic on the Research Base which requires the use of a grenade launcher to blow up the wall to get it, unfortunately since i have beat the game and killed all the enemies I couldn't find any ammo of th...

@fredley And mac and cheese
And pancakes
13:55
@fredley your dome base is awesome
@SaintWacko Thank You
Still a lot of work to do, particularly tidying up and getting a decent bee dome set up
It's much more compact than my old base.
@fredley I took 4 common walnut saplings, but I shall return them today with interest
I love your display of different wood types
@SaintWacko Fine. Please treealyze them and make sure you only send back pures
And that item storage thing...
@SaintWacko I'm considering building a 'museum' in the town somewhere
13:56
@fredley loves showing off his wood.
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@SaintWacko Yeah, more work needs to be done there. Molecular Fab is possibly the most awesome part of the game though
@fredley Do you have a treealyzer in your base?
treealyzer o_O?
@fredley 71k uu...
@SaintWacko It's a tool
@SaintWacko Yeeeah...
13:57
@fredley Oh, okay
@SaintWacko It's kinda been piling up
Useful though, to have UU crafting recipes programmed into the MF, so I can craft anything instantly and automagically from UU
@fredley Yeah, that's pretty awesome
@SaintWacko That's like ... almost 18 barrels full of it?
Whoa ...
Did you make those domes and islands by hand?
14:00
@GraceNote -1, no Green Ranger
@OrigamiRobot -1 for knowing what colors of Power Rangers exist
@Sterno Psh, Power Rangers were awesome.
I kinda expect knowing Power Ranger colors to be rather a norm at this point.
The Laundry Files is the best scifi-comedy-fantasy-horror series I've ever read
I think I'm going to have my base be a massive hollow sphere deep in the earth
lit by lava and redstone
@Sterno Wait, why is that a minus?
14:03
@SaintWacko Because he is old.
@OrigamiRobot Psh, old people
Dangit, I hate it when I cycle onto Minecraft
Now I want to do nothing but play Minecraft
@MartinSojka More than one EDS Barrel anyway
@SaintWacko :D
@SaintWacko I've been in this cycle for 3 years
@fredley I had just cycled away from it when the Arqade server started
@SaintWacko Join us! There are some other new players on the server now, so you won't be on your own in your initial poverty :-P
There's definitely an age line somewhere between Power Rangers being cool and Power Rangers being pretty much the same as Barney.
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14:10
@Sterno I fall on the older side of that age line.
But only just barely.
I clearly do as well. I'm 33. Or 34. I can't remember anymore
Silver....
or white
34, I guess. Math!
White power ranger? maybe? was that when it turned stupid?
@Sterno I'm 29, and I just barely come in on your side of the line.
14:12
I never saw Barney emit showers of sparks when he was hit.
@OrigamiRobot But you would have really liked to, wouldn't you?
Far too few Barney episodes ended in violence
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@Sterno No, but if he ever used a dagger as a flute to summon a giant robot dinosaur out of the water I would.
Dammit @fredley, I'm trapped in TVTropes and it's YOUR FAULT
Mirror's Edge on Oculus Rift sounds either great or a great way to get motionsickness
14:14
@Scootaloo no offence taken.
@Sterno I stopped keeping track of my age after 18.
@BenBrocka It sounds like a great way to run against a wall or jump off a roof.
@OrigamiRobot I stopped at 25. That's when my car insurance premiums dropped.
@Unionhawk Heeheehahahahaheehee
One day, I'll be surrounded by people on the Internet who think teletubbies were cool.
Getting old sucks.
14:15
I thought the era of people even paying heed to them was long over.
@GraceNote Oh thank God. I accidentally closed the tab, and had the self-control to not re-open it. Phew.
Nobody is nostalgic about teletubbies.
@Sterno Red, Blue, Yellow, Pink, Green, White, Black, Orange, Purple, Silver, Gold ... I think that's all of them.
@Sterno HE HEE! INTERNET!!
@MartinSojka Those last four are not valid colors.
14:17
@OrigamiRobot Give it 5 years, and someone will be naming them off and you'll make a smartass comment about how they get a -1 for knowing the names, and they'll say they were awesome.
Then you'll get your cane, hobble over to the window, and scream at some kids to get off your lawn.
@Sterno I can't do that because I know all the names.
@FEichinger well, if you ran to move, but that's just a bad idea. Unless you have a magically expanding holodeck of course
@Sterno I'd do this now if I had a lawn.
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I'd love an Oculus Rift Dead Space. "It's like it's really eating my face!"
So far I only yell at neighbors who let their dogs poop on my lawn.
14:18
@Unionhawk :D
@OrigamiRobot Tell that to the Japanese. Now I remember, they added Cyan to one of the latest series (Zyuden Sentai Kyoryuger).
@BenBrocka Bad ideas are mankind's bane.
... played by a rather heavily built Canadian, for a change.
@Sterno Tinky Winky, Dipsy, La-la, Po
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@OrigamiRobot Stop ruining my day.
14:20
Do you know their items?
@Sterno I can probably sing all the standard songs from Blues Clues too.
Who had the hat, the bag, the scooter and the.... errr
ball?
That baby in the sun totally creeped me out the first time I saw it.
@djsmiley2k Tinky Winky had the bag. That's all I know.
Oh dear...
"Last time [we] sent out a warning email along the lines of:
We never ask for your username and password. If you get an email that looks like:
"There is an issue with your account. Please reply with your username and password and we will rectify it"

You should never reply to these messages with your details.
50 people replied with their usernames and passwords."
14:21
For the love of god ...
@OrigamiRobot The only reason I know this is because of the Charlie Sheen song.
"And were shot".
@Unionhawk There must be a computer equivalent of the Darwin Award which these people should receive
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@GraceNote I have two younger sisters and lots of younger cousins. I remember things.
14:22
excuses...
@Unionhawk wow
@YiJiang'sEvilClone I think we just need to take away their internet privaleges. Or something. IT should have messed with their accounts with that information (because apparently they needed such information to do so?)
@fredley This can't be right. I can't be in two places at once. Technology has only come so far.
@OrigamiRobot That's how managers think
14:25
I am not a manager.
I am, I'm both at work, and in the clouds
That graph needs to learn how pronouns work.
@OrigamiRobot You're career!
@OrigamiRobot Your grammar is far too rigid, robot
14:27
A career is you!
@fredley It's not my fault it can't properly communicate the joke it's trying to make.
@OrigamiRobot JOKE ERROR: INVALID SYNTAX
Jul 29 '12 at 20:54, by OrigamiRobot
@AshleyNunn ERROR 789: JOKE NOT FOUND
PSY's new video: More of the same
catch(Joke j) {
    j.hide();
}
14:31
@FEichinger public class Joke extends Exception
@fredley Which actually makes sense.
The Joke isn't an Exception. The Joke threw an Exception. Come on, people!
 catch(Joke j) {
        sleep(10000);
        j.throw();
}
God dammit how do you do <pre> on multiline in chat?
@fredley A new button shows up on multiline.
Type multiple lines
And then hit fixed font.
@GraceNote This is not obvious
@fredley That is why I gave you instructions.
Chat is never obvious.
Chat is evil.
If it were obvious I'd be beating your noggin in with a variety of dangerous tools of increasing mass.
If we're going to add non-obvious but useful features to chat, can we do it for the mobile interface please?
14:35
It's not in mobile?
@GraceNote Nothing is in mobile.
@GraceNote Mobile is a pile of lacking features.
Then in that case, put 4 spaces in front of every line.
Also, why doesn't multiline formatting work?
I don't think there's a philosophical reason as much as that's just the design of it.
14:37
@fredley Me and my career will stand on the broken backs of my users? Sounds about right
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@FEichinger It makes sense to me. I don't agree with it as a good reason, but it's logically sound to me.
@fredley oh it's a unicorn. I Thought it was some sort of elephant before I clicked "see more"
@GraceNote We have fixed font for code. And a block of text can just as well have markdown, if we paste it in. No reason for it not to use markdown on multi-line there.
14:41
@FEichinger There's a reason. It's not a strong reason, but it's still a reason.
@fredley Oh, I'm cycled back now. If you go out into the water a bit from the mouth of the river in spawn town, you'll find a small island I'm working on
@SaintWacko Cool, I'll check it out later. If you find yourself needing a thing or two you're welcome to take the odd thing from my server, but don't go crazy. Also: use the machine room early on
@SaintWacko Don't fall in my whirlpool
@fredley Ooh, where is the machine room?
I could really use that
I've mined a lot of stuff, but haven't smelted much yet
@OrigamiRobot I almost did, in my boat
@SaintWacko In spawn, just down the "main road". Should have everything one would need to get started
14:47
Fortunately I was moving fast enough that I skimmed the edge
@OrigamiRobot Did you upgrade it with one-way Mystcraft portals already? :)
@MartinSojka That's a different thing.
I just finished The Atrocity Archive and The Concrete Jungle in less than 48 hours. This probably means I'll be back at the library tomorrow checking out Halting State, Rule 34 and The Jennifer Morgue, if I can find it
I'm going to make a hidden Mystcraft portal from my house to my main base
Oh, I absolutely love the portal room
That's really well done
On, and Iron Sunrise too, if I can find it
14:50
12 hours ago, by Yi Jiang's Evil Clone
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I really wish Singularity Sky has a prequel, not a sequel
Maybe you're more familiar with that sort of thing.
Rainbow Farts ... again!
God damn it there's not enough room on my library card.
I hunger... for BOOKS
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Q: The Great British Arqade Meetup

fredleyThe other post was getting a bit long and convoluted so let's have another stab at this. This is for the London meetup. You don't actually have to be British, but it helps. Some people have suggested early August as a good timeframe, so lets see how that works for people. Fill out your availabi...

14:51
@FEichinger I can go back and produce more rainbow farting action if you want
The sound effects the weapon produces is delightful
@YiJiang'sEvilClone We need rainbow fart gifs.
Not exactly farting, but this should do
I want Armageddon rainbow farts! Y_Y
14:54
@YiJiang'sEvilClone you got a strange definition of farting in Singapore
@Blem Like I said, it's not exactly the same orifice, but it should be similar enough for our purpose
@Blem try ALL MONTH
@Blem All year >.>
ALL MY GORRAM LIFE!
14:57
"I'm going to be productive this week!" UHC starts up "GODDAMMIT"
I wish I could access the minecraft server at work :(
@SaintWacko Why can't you?
@fredley The whole place is behind a proxy
And I haven't figured out how to make Minecraft use it
@SaintWacko Tunnel out
Or the FTB downloader
14:59
@SaintWacko If you can connect to The Bridge, you can connect to the server
@fredley That is a massive security hole and would probably get me fired
@SaintWacko Set up a Pi as a VPN at home
@SaintWacko if you get caught
@fredley Not worth the risk
@SaintWacko eh

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