The Bridge

Ben Brocka

20:00

@GnomeSlice Really? Does the duplicate detection stop you now or what?

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka No, I just would never be able to upload four or five videos at once on my home connection.

I don't get why some videos get more views than others. I have three HammerFight clips, and one of them has almost 400 views, and the other two have less than 100

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Ben Brocka

Downloads are queued, you could set it to upload 100 videos and just wait for ages if you really needed to. It only uploads one at a time (you'd be hogging the connection though I guess)

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Precisely.

Ben Brocka

How many do you have?

GnomeSlice

24 in total, but I'd probably make the new account for my video/motion graphics.

I could get away with only having to move 5-7

I could do it at school some time I guess.

Ben Brocka

20:05

If it's only 5-7 you could probably do that over a few nights, right?

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Maybe, but I'll have to wait until I'm done school or my parents won't let me probably.

OrigamiRobot

Get a job ya hippie

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot What does that have to do with this

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Then you could get a better connection.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice You're enabled for monetization right? Does that just come to all accounts now or what? I remember it being a big deal and being extremely careful with it at first

GnomeSlice

20:11

@BenBrocka I became eligible last year or the year before.

For having a certain number of views I think

@OrigamiRobot Oh. No, it's because my parents will be like 'why are you using your gaming pc/doing youtube things when you're supposed to be focusing on school?'.

Ben Brocka

Ah. I forget what the reason was, if any, when I got it. They've changed assorted things so much

GnomeSlice

I don't remember exactly what it was either.

Ben Brocka

You can just let it upload in the background

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka My internet has no 'background'.

@BenBrocka how do you view clickthrough stats?

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice You can't focus on school while you're sleeping.

GnomeSlice

20:13

@OrigamiRobot I know.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Solution: Stop Sleeping.

GnomeSlice

Doesn't matter.

OrigamiRobot

So you'd be uploading while you sleep.

@Wipqozn Robots don't sleep.

GnomeSlice

Because then I'm putting focus on Youtube and not school in general or something.

I barely sleep anyway.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice adsense has them, youtube might have some (I think it just has earnings though)

OrigamiRobot

20:15

@GnomeSlice So you'd probably be in trouble for even being here?

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka How do I see THAT then.

@OrigamiRobot Yes.

Ben Brocka

you need both youtube and adsense to get the full picture (though sub 100 views it's probably too small of a data set to see relevant trends)

google.com/adsense/v3/app

GnomeSlice

I got in trouble for posting a song on facebook yesterday.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice I'M TELLING

Ben Brocka

You should have gotten an adsense login or something when you first got authorized

GnomeSlice

20:16

@BenBrocka It says I have no ads, does this not include youtube?

@BenBrocka I'm signed in with my Google account here, and on Youtube, so I guess so.

Ben Brocka

Youtube ads don't show up in the "my ads" thing since it's managed by Google

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Youtube is managed by Google.

Ben Brocka

you want the Home and Performance Reports pages

that'll show CTR, views, etc

GnomeSlice

'Page views'?

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice yeah, and Google controls the ads that show on youtube, not you

GnomeSlice

20:17

What 'page' is that referring to?

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice What would they do? Take away your internet?

Ben Brocka

don't you see anything on the "home" tab in the earnings boxes?

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Yeah. My dad already had access to all of my non-school devices blocked this term, but he turned it off the other day because I had no work to do and I wanted to play something.

He has this thing that automatically cuts all my access at 10:00 too, but it's also off for now.

OrigamiRobot

Penalty for being on the internet: No internet.

GnomeSlice

It used to even have a siren that would go off if I tried to access it after 10 or access any sites in his blacklist. Like stackexchange.

OrigamiRobot

20:20

All the more reason you should get a job.

ya hippie

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot I don't drive, and I live in the middle of nowhere. Plus I have school. And I wouldn't be able to move out for a long time anyway.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice That's what the job is for.

Ben Brocka

Wow

GnomeSlice

When I was a kid he built a programmable timer for my video games that I had to put a code in. Once I entered my code it would supply power to the TV for a pre-determined amount of time (usually 40 minutes) and give me 5 minute warning beeps and stuff and then cut it off. And it had cooldown times, and only two blocks allowed per day.

He should have marketed it.

@OrigamiRobot I'm not going to make enough to move out working part time.

OrigamiRobot

2 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

All the more reason you should get a job.

@GnomeSlice I don't know what rental rates are in Canada, but I doubt that.

GnomeSlice

20:23

@OrigamiRobot I was looking at moving out a while ago and even in a place with two other people, to support it I would have had to have been working full time at minimum wage.

OrigamiRobot

That's insane.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka What 'page' is the 'page views' referring to on Google adsense?

@OrigamiRobot Or almost full time anyway. Expenses man. I'd need a bus pass, internet, food, heating

Either heating or water was included, I forget

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice The prices in Ontaio must be really over the top.

GnomeSlice

Oh, at minimum wage.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice Monetizable video views

GnomeSlice

20:25

And it wasn't quite full time, but I wouldn't have been able to take seven courses.

@BenBrocka 14

Great.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice I know what goes in to living on your own.

Ben Brocka

Not sure how it counts multiple ad units on one page though

Dare I ask how many clicks?

GnomeSlice

How does 0.00 divided by 14 multiplied by 1000 equal 0.07?

@BenBrocka 0

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice CPM? Huh

GnomeSlice

RPM (Page revenue per thousand impressions)

OrigamiRobot

20:26

@GnomeSlice Get a better job.

GnomeSlice

So 0 clicks in like two years.

I need better content.

Ben Brocka

right, RPM is what you get, CPM is what the advertiser gets

GnomeSlice

I really wanted to start a real youtube channel a while ago, but I guess I gave up on it.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Like Costco / Price-Club.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka How is it $0.07 then with 0 clicks?

> Page RPM is calculated by dividing your estimated earnings by the number of page views you received, then multiplying by 1000.

Wipqozn

20:27

They're actually a pretty good company to work with.

Ben Brocka

it actually shows earnings?

GnomeSlice

Estimated earnings is 0

Ben Brocka

It's an estimate, it might be weird

GnomeSlice

Oh wait, this is by day

apparently

Ben Brocka

oh, do all time

GnomeSlice

20:29

And the results are exactly the same for week and month.

Which means the only ones who have looked at anything of mine recently are you guys.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Legitimate question: Have you ever had a job?

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot No.

@BenBrocka I don't even see that.

Wait, found it.

2 clicks all time.

Ben Brocka

click edit near last 7 days

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice You should probably get one just so you have the experience.

GnomeSlice

219 page views.

@OrigamiRobot I know. But I can't right now.

user15026

20:30

@OrigamiRobot This is not the worst idea ever.

GnomeSlice

Estimated earnings $0.60

Ben Brocka

They pay out at $100 so it might take a while to get there. On the plus side you don't have to do the tax form for a while!

That's the part I'm not looking forward to this year

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka What's the point lol.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Why not? I know you don't drive, but there are alternatives.

GnomeSlice

I'll be dead before reaching 100 at this rate.

Wipqozn

20:30

@GnomeSlice How do you get back and forth from school?

OrigamiRobot

@AshleyNunn I'm so helpful.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn I get a ride into Kanata (15-20 minute drive) and take the bus from there.

user15026

@OrigamiRobot The helpful-est

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice for reference I have plenty of days with 2 cents per day and I started monetizing whenI had a few hundred subscribers

GnomeSlice

Or I go with my mother in the morning when she leaves for work at 6:45 AM and take the bus from her school.

Wipqozn

20:31

@GnomeSlice And getting back home? Just the reverse?

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka How do you view your subscribers?

@Wipqozn Usually, or my mother picks me up on her way home.

Wipqozn

Because you could always try getting a job with hours after your classes.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice channel page

GnomeSlice

21 subscribers

Ben Brocka

since you like indie games try some let's plays of new indie/flash games. Those have always gotten decent hits for me (even if many are just people looking for walkthroughs)

GnomeSlice

20:33

That's more than I was expecting.

Ben Brocka

alternately, make walkthroughs, but I don't have the patience for that

GnomeSlice

I actually have posted literally nothing of value.

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice There is really a place in Canada called Kanata?

Ben Brocka

Gotta start somewhere

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka I was working on a really comprehensive video answer for Out There Somewhere but I don't have time to work on it now.

@StrixVaria Yes.

Ben Brocka

20:34

Let's plays are easier

GnomeSlice

That's what Canada was originally called by the aboriginals, too.

Ben Brocka

Sit down, play game for 15 minutes, make fun of it, done

GnomeSlice

Except you have to record your voice and also not get interrupted.

fbueckert

Anyone who's interested in Path of Exile may want to download it now; it's taking a while.

Ben Brocka

Even camstudio lets you record voice + audio (maybe not on win 7 though). Interruptions were annoying when I was at home though

GnomeSlice

20:36

@BenBrocka I have FRAPS I can use. Dunno how that works with voice recording though, but I could figure something out if I wanted to.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Unless you have the worst parents ever, I'm sure they'd help accommodate job travel in some way.

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Maybe, but I don't have time this semester anyway.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice oh yeah, fraps works, you just have to be sure the balance is right before recording

it tends to make the game audio far louder than your voice

GnomeSlice

I had a pirated version of BB flashback on my laptop before I reinstalled it, but it's gone now.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Are there any on-compus employment opportunities? That's what I did.

GnomeSlice

20:37

I only used it to record things like flash games, because it let you record a screen area.

@OrigamiRobot I dunno. But I still don't have time for a job.

The program coordinator recommended quitting any jobs the students had before starting the program too.

And that's normal people.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice You have time to be here.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot I was thinking the same thing. On-Campus jobs are usually really flexible with hours. Depending on the position you can use the time for school work as well.

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot I'm in class.

Trying to work on something.

That I've been trying to work on all day

My mom is going to be so pissed

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice THen maybe you should leave chat and work on it.

GnomeSlice

I was here four hours before my class started and I didn't finish an assignment.

user15026

20:38

@Wipqozn Yeah, my on campus library job is so flexible in that way

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn No, class is almost over and my brain is jelly after looking at this for so long.

She's going to shout at me all the way home.

And then probably take my laptop so I can't do any more homework.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn I made my own hours. I worked between classes.

GnomeSlice

I could try webcam modelling

/joke

But real talk, I have a friend who makes $50 a night doing that.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Jobs also teach time management.

GnomeSlice

Except she's a she.

@OrigamiRobot I can't focus on anything anymore.

Not even things I find interesting. It's getting worse.

fbueckert

20:41

Joy. Wii U Virtual Console games require you to pay for them again, if you already bought it for the Wii.

GnomeSlice

I need to work up some tears or something to show my mother when she picks me up and maybe she won't shout at me so much.

@fbueckert Keep your Wii.

user15026

@fbueckert Really? There is no way to transfer? :(

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn You can transfer just fine.

The "Wii U" versions are special, though, apparently.

user15026

@fbueckert That is so stupid I don't even have words for it.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert Tablet support?

fbueckert

20:43

@AshleyNunn To be fair, if you own the Wii version, they sell you the Wii U version for around ~20% of original price.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert Yeah anything digital nintendo kinda ruins

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert They should just give it to you. Or give a much bigger discount than that.

user15026

@fbueckert Even so, that's still annoying.

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice Much bigger than 80% off?

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Finally, you say something I agree with.

Wipqozn

20:44

@fbueckert That doesn't make it any better.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn No, it doesn't. I'm just being fair.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Oh, I thought he said 20% off.

user15026

I keep debating about buying Fire Emblem Awakening over the eshop, but that would take like the entire space on my SD, and I have heard it is hard to transfer stuff to another SD.

fbueckert

OK, one thing they're doing right is the 30th Anniversary of the NES.

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn Oh, wow. That comes out in a couple weeks.

GnomeSlice

20:45

@AshleyNunn You can do it on a PC I'm sure.

Ben Brocka

With the Wii you could just literally copy the files on your computer I think. They were just encrypted so other wiis couldn't use them

fbueckert

Each game as part of the anniversary is selling for 30 cents

user15026

@fbueckert Anniversary?

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice So what are you going to do when you graduate?

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot I don't know.

Go back to school for music maybe.

I try not to think about it.

OrigamiRobot

20:47

@GnomeSlice Probably not the best plan.

fbueckert

2 mins ago, by fbueckert

OK, one thing they're doing right is the 30th Anniversary of the NES.

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Probably not.

user15026

@GnomeSlice It is important to have some idea. I have plans and back up plans and back up back up plans, but you don't have to do that much.

user15026

@fbueckert Ah, I missed that.

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Thought so. :P

@AshleyNunn I'm bad at this. I'm all, "Eh. I'll take it as it comes."

OrigamiRobot

20:48

@GnomeSlice I highly recommend getting a job ASAP. Any job. Any amount of hours.

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot I don't have time.

user15026

@fbueckert Yeah, well, I want to get my MLIS, but if I cant get in there right away I will take a LibTech college program and then go

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice That where the P comes in.

fbueckert

May's game is Super Metroid. For $.30, that's freaking worth it.

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Super Metroid <3

fbueckert

20:50

@OrigamiRobot This is what I had to tell my deadbeat roommate.

Trent Hawkins

@fbueckert Hmm... is this only on the Wii U?

fbueckert

He figured falling six months behind in rent was an OK thing to do.

@TrentHawkins I believe so.

user15026

@fbueckert No no no no no no

fbueckert

This month is Baloon Fight; check the Virtual Console and see if it's on sale.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert WTF

Trent Hawkins

20:50

@fbueckert damn.

Ben Brocka

@TrentHawkins sounds like the prices are the exact same on both consoles

GnomeSlice

There should be a social media service where instead of 'followers' they're called 'Lemmings'.

user15026

@fbueckert I wish that was available on the 3ds shop

user15026

I dont think the prices carry over to it, afaik

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Yeah. I finally told him to get off his ass and find a job, or I was booting him out the door.

GnomeSlice

20:51

@fbueckert Eee, Balloon fight!

Wipqozn

@fbueckert I would have told him that after the first month.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn In hindsight, that's what I should have done.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Was he a really good friend or something? If not, I'd have done that after the first month or two.

fbueckert

But I'm far too nice a guy.

Wipqozn

You miss it one month? Okay, I can understand that. Shit happens. But six months?

fbueckert

20:52

@OrigamiRobot He was someone I knew, but not really that close.

@Wipqozn Best part was, he didn't tell me he was broke until I bugged him for rent.

Ben Brocka

@AshleyNunn 3DS shop is only for portable VC games anyway

user15026

@BenBrocka headtilt what do you mean

GnomeSlice

Having a roommate means you need even more disposable income, because you have to be able to pay him to stay out late when you bring a lady back to your place.

Trent Hawkins

@BenBrocka I was more hoping it would be the same price on the 3DS's shop, but all info I can find just say Wii U

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice ...

StrixVaria

20:53

@GnomeSlice You are a sad, strange little man.

Ben Brocka

@AshleyNunn Did they start offering console games on the 3DS shop? I've only ever seen GBA/GB/etc games, portable console games

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Your brain needs fixing, dude.

user15026

@GnomeSlice ......I have no words for this

fbueckert

For the most part, if I did that, it's up to them to clear out.

user15026

@BenBrocka I think so, but I am not able to check at the moment so it could be wrong.

user15026

20:54

@GnomeSlice Or you know, just not be a jerk about it? I have had roommates, and brought people home, and no one had to leave.

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice ಠ_ಠ

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Speaking of GBA games, that's one thing they're adding to the Wii U Virtual Console.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert Oh, huh

Trent Hawkins

@fbueckert For the record, say the word and I'll figure out something to do outside the house for the evening.... or close my door and be a room hermit.

Ben Brocka

Still, I'm not using the VC anymore, at least not to buy games I have boguht in the past. Emulators are far superior and Nintendo's crappy policies seal the deal

Ullallulloo

20:57

THQ dissolved and their studios have been sold off.

8

fbueckert

@TrentHawkins I'd probably throw a couple bucks your way and say go watch a movie or something, if it ever happened with regularity.

StrixVaria

@Ullallulloo 404

WTF now it worked.

Ullallulloo

    Sega will purchase Relic
    Koch Media will purchase Volition and Metro: Last Light
    Crytek will purchase Homefront
    Take 2 will purchase Evolve
    Ubisoft will purchase Montreal and South Park.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Yeah, that's why I modded my Wii. FF V for the win!

user15026

@Ullallulloo Huh.

StrixVaria

20:58

What about Saints Row?

fbueckert

Plus none of this stupid, "Well, we released it in english in Europe, but screw you North Americans!"

user15026

Atari went under too, yeah?

Ben Brocka

Modded consoles aren't all that much better. I like being able to easily backup and move my save files

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Indeed.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Little?

Ullallulloo

20:58

So Red Faction, Metro, and Saints Row go to the makers of Anno, Dead Island, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., and and Risen.

GnomeSlice

Man you guys can't take my jokes.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert can't believe they can still get away with region locks. I'm glad Sony at least didn't make BDs region locks

Ullallulloo

@StrixVaria That's made by Volition.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert Thanks bro.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka It's the main justification for homebrew. Most people won't use it just for that, but that's the justification.

StrixVaria

20:59

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