The Bridge

kalina

10:03

@winterswift congratulations, you've learned the secret of rep capping daily

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Yay, I got syntax highlighting working. It's so purdy

winterswift

@kalina Yeah, I suppose so. ._.

@YiJiang'sEvilClone In what?

kalina

@winterswift be careful though, sometimes getting rep too quickly generates unrest in the population

speaking from personal experience

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@winterswift On my website

@kalina Sir, the peasants are revolting!

winterswift

@kalina Somehow being chat-cornered by five people when someone finally pointed out how much rep I'd gained over the first two days signaled that.

kalina

10:09

@winterswift indeed, I made a similar splash by being the only person to get to 10k rep in 180 days

just shrug it off, these people aren't worth the stress

winterswift

@kalina THIS MESSAGE NEVER HAPPENED, THERE IS NO CONSPIRACY

kalina

@winterswift go for it, it will get people to stop paying attention to me

@winterswift edit history disagrees with you

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Looking at my rep graph, I started answering questions on Stack Overflow on Aug 9 2010. I broke 10k on Dec 17.

winterswift

@kalina Quiet, you.

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone SO is not arqade :)

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

10:11

@kalina Not exactly, no. There's more questions, but a much lower vote ratio

winterswift

Uuuugh.

kalina

I have 88 days to get 4k rep and keep my 10k rep/180 days rate of whoring

winterswift

All these Ingress questions.

kalina

@winterswift I am considering buying all required hardware to play Ingress just to answer them

(wouldn't be the first time I started playing a game just to ask/answer questions about it)

winterswift

@kalina You don't own a smartphone?

kalina

10:12

@winterswift I had a smartphone, I threw it at my (now ex) boyfriend because he was being a very annoying person

winterswift

@kalina ಠ_ಠ

kalina

he evaded it, it broke

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina I love Britishisms. Twat is such a funny word.

kalina

I take responsibility for my actions

winterswift

cough edit history disagrees with you.

kalina

10:14

his dodge chance wasn't high enough to evade my hand to his face though

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Ouch

winterswift

Did you get a crit?

kalina

yes he entered a downed state

winterswift

Were you on a contract with said phone?

kalina

no I buy all of my phones sim free

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

10:16

Oh dear

kalina

if I wasn't currently so disillusioned with Arqade, I'd go for rep capping today

I'm already half way there and it's not even lunch

winterswift

Start answering all the Ingress and CS:GO questions. That'll rep-whore.

kalina

cs:go questions are very low rep yield

winterswift

But there are so many.

kalina

any of them not raised by me will unlikely get a proper amount of rep since most people don't play it, and a subset of those will never get accepted because they're raised by users who don't know how we work

winterswift

10:20

Hmm.

I see your point.

kalina

and since I stopped playing it and never really got into it, the amount of research required to accurately answer them outweighs the benefits

winterswift

I'm guessing Sims 3 is the same way?

kalina

I would never play Sims 3

winterswift

You could probably answer a number of them by reading documentation.

kalina

I prefer less... casual... games

winterswift

10:21

All the filthy sane people invading Arqade.

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kalina

reading Sims 3 documentation is definitely not my idea of staying sane

hardly invading, many people are casual gamers, there is nothing wrong with it

I prefer a game that I can play for months or years and still keep finding new stuff

rather than games where I can work out all of the mechanics present in the game in the space of a few hours

which is unfortunately why I have started playing EVE

winterswift

@kalina </sarcasm>

I thought you just paid CCP to watch a timer count down.

kalina

@winterswift casual gamers make up a growing percentage of all gamers

all those people who play games on consoles are a huge market

sure it's at the detriment to proper games

winterswift

@kalina I'm not a classist gamer by any means, but I don't appreciate the fact that research firms now count people who play Farmville for six hours a week as 'gamers'.

kalina

since the same people who will sit there dribbling while playing COD on an XBOX are the same people who will willingly spend £60 on a game + £10 a month for DLCs

winterswift

10:25

And weeeeee goes the game industry.

kalina

@winterswift well, they are

it's not a new thing, the major games publishers in the world have been cleaning up the talented studios for years

badp

@kalina don't

kalina

'cleaning up' = 'assimilating'

@badp thanks for the warning

winterswift

Planetside 2 is adequate proof of the new movement.

kalina

@winterswift uhm...?

Planetside 2 is a rehash of Planetside, which was also terrible

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

10:26

@winterswift Haven forbid people bringing some sanity here!

Lazers

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Q: highest possible fps config for cs:go

i come from a cs 1.6 background and primarily play that. I've just recently acquired cs:go and i enjoy it somewhat but would like to know what config commands i can apply to squeeze as much fps out of the game that i can. I don't care how it looks; In fact, I'd actually like it looking much ... ...

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Q: In what order should I hack / power up an unclaimed portal?

I've recently found some un-trafficked areas with unclaimed portals, and was able to capture them at my leisure. However it occurred to me while I was doing so that I didn't know in what order to go about capturing them to best advantage. Because they were off the beaten track, I was particularly...

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Q: Are some hacking timelines more advantages than others?

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winterswift

@YiJiang'sEvilClone > Haven forbid

@YiJiang'sEvilClone The haven forbids it.

kalina

@badp hey was this a cheap method of saving some questions for you to answer?

@Lazers "why does this new game not give me the same FPS as this 15 year old game?"

winterswift

@kalina Er, I meant Dead Space 3.

@kalina Multitasking and for some reason Planetside came to mind.

kalina

@winterswift men should not attempt to multi-task, it's never pretty and usually results in you ruining every task you're doing at the time

winterswift

10:29

@kalina What if I told you I was a robot?

kalina

@winterswift I would not believe you

winterswift

And why, pray tell?

kalina

because I'm a realist and know that such technology does not exist?

winterswift

Fun fact: I beat the Turing Test in 1993.

Watson has nothing on me.

kalina

let's face it, if sentient robots existed, the first thing they'd do is declare war on humanity for being the filthy contradicting self centered greedy scum that is the human race

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

10:31

@kalina Quite

winterswift

If there's only one or a few, they can declare all they want, but they might not get much done.

@kalina Notice I never mentioned sentient, by the way, only something that can pass off as human in digital conversation.

kalina

@winterswift this attempt at counter-arguing my point is weak

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

kalina

@winterswift anything that isn't sentient would never successfully pass off sustained human communication

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina The Chinese Room

fredley

10:33

@kalina The Turing Test

@kalina If it can pass off sustained human communication, it is sentient then?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@fredley That doesn't seem like a very good test for sentience

winterswift

@YiJiang'sEvilClone There's an improved one released by some universities.

@YiJiang'sEvilClone It's the same principle, just updated for, y'know, a world with the microprocessor.

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Really?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Chinese room

The Chinese room is a thought experiment presented by John Searle. It supposes that there is a program that gives a computer the ability to carry on an intelligent conversation in written Chinese. If the program is given to someone who speaks only English to execute the instructions of the program by hand, then in theory, the English speaker would also be able to carry on a conversation in written Chinese. However, the English speaker would not be able to understand the conversation. Similarly, Searle concludes, a computer executing the program would not understand the conversation either. ...

winterswift

@fredley Well, the man predicted we'd be fooling 30% of humans with 120MB of RAM over a decade ago.

fredley

10:36

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Google Translate?

@winterswift Alan Turing? I think you're confused...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@fredley Did you read the article?

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I read the onebox summary

winterswift

Turing test

The Turing test is a test of a machine's ability to exhibit intelligent behavior equivalent to, or indistinguishable from, that of an actual human. In the original illustrative example, a human judge engages in a natural language conversation with a human and a machine designed to generate performance indistinguishable from that of a human being. All participants are separated from one another. If the judge cannot reliably tell the machine from the human, the machine is said to have passed the test. The test does not check the ability to give the correct answer; it checks how closely th...

Please note that the actual link goes down to the "Predictions" section.

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Oh. Ok.

winterswift

@fredley Turing predicted that machines would eventually be able to pass the test; in fact, he estimated that by the year 2000, machines with 109 bits (about 119.2 MiB or approximately 120 megabytes) of memory would be able to fool thirty percent of human judges in a five-minute test. He also predicted that people would then no longer consider the phrase "thinking machine" contradictory.

fredley

10:38

@winterswift He made a false prediction, therefore all his arguments are invalid?

winterswift

@fredley Not saying that, but his test isn't necessarily a good line to draw in the sand, per se.

False predictions aside, it's like declaring a magic number.

kalina

@fredley sustained as in flawlessly over a long period of time

fredley

@kalina Yes

@kalina For all I know, you are a sentient computer program

kalina

and if it can answer any question and provide a believable answer and demonstrate the ability to learn then that's pretty close to sentience

winterswift

@kalina Humans can't exactly carry on flawless communication for a sustained period of time, you know.

kalina

10:45

@winterswift speak for yourself.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

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Q: Can I non-geniune third-party hard drives in an Xbox 360?

This question is not talking about usb sticks, flash drivers or external hard drivers I am thinking about buying one of these (internal hard drive) to my Xbox 360. My Xbox is not modded so I am only able to play with genuine discs which is what I want. Will non-genuine hard drives work like ge...

xbox-360

There's something extremely fishy about this question

winterswift

@kalina People use predictable language all the time.

Anything that comes from a human and fits a mathematical model of some sort could be easily emulated by a robot.

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone just dupe it to gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/22593

@winterswift but this model doesn't include the ability to learn

which is one of the two things I said

winterswift

You can program an AI to model after other things, though.

That's already been/being done.

fredley

@winterswift O RLY?

winterswift

10:49

@fredley Sure, algorithms learn.

I didn't say they learned particularly effectively, especially in the case of conversation, but they add and modify.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Genetic algorithms?

winterswift

Google's algorithms.

Now, Google is obviously no chatbot.

But it's dynamic, and it 'learns', per se, from things that happen to the results.

kalina

@winterswift not effectively enough to pass off as human

so I return to my original point of "no, not possible yet"

winterswift

@kalina I agree with you, I just figured I'd make an argument.

Actually, it's an undeniable fact, unless the CIA is hiding some secret shit behind our backs.

fredley

@winterswift But is a simple algorithm enough to emulate human conversation? Decades of research says no.

kalina

10:53

Artificial Intelligence will not be created by a secret government agency

It will be a large technology company like Google or Apple

winterswift

@fredley Decades of research and all living generations of research*ers*, indeed.

kalina

in fact, it's highly likely to be one of those two

Google have their cars that drive themselves

And Apple have Siri

fredley

@kalina Not so sure, it could be that we're missing something simple, but crucial. Could be created by a 14 year old hacker.

winterswift

Siri isn't exactly the biggest step down the sentience road.

fredley

@kalina This is not quite the same.

winterswift

10:54

@fredley Doubtful. It requires computing resources.

kalina

@winterswift Siri was pretty clever before Apple cut back on the amount of resources it was allowed to use

winterswift

And as an extension of that, lots of money.

fredley

@winterswift Quite. Siri responds to keywords, essentially. It's a long long way from 'intelligence'

kalina

the first 1-2 months that the iPhone 4 was out it was a lot better than it is now

makes me think they scaled back

fredley

@winterswift Computing resources are cheap.

winterswift

10:55

@fredley Not the kind needed to manufacture a sentient robot.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

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fredley

@kalina Got to have something new to release with the 5S. 'New Siri'

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

This guy is apparently a Guild Wars 2 dev

kalina

@winterswift the sentience is provided by software, the robot is not the hard part

fredley

@winterswift Who knows what the requirements are like? Nobody's done it yet.

kalina

10:56

@YiJiang'sEvilClone old

winterswift

@fredley As far as I'm aware, we have to emulate parallel processing, which is a key weakness of computers.

i.e. Quad-core ain't cutting it.

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counter-strike-go

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Q: Can I non-geniune third-party hard drives in an Xbox 360?

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fredley

@winterswift Many core, in home computers, is just around the corner.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@Lazers NC

fredley

And when I say many, I mean >100

It's only a few years away

If I have kids, when they are 14 they will have access to unimaginable amounts of processing power.

winterswift

10:58

@fredley That's what it looks like, certainly. We've seemingly leveled off the frequencies.

At least, for now.

fredley

@winterswift Not frequency, power (which is linked to freq. in CMOS architecture)

winterswift

@fredley Well, alright.

fredley

@winterswift We can do better either by ditching silicon and going for diamond or something, or finding a new architecture.

winterswift

@fredley Somehow a new architecture seems more likely, unless we start cheaply manufacturing synthetic diamond.

kalina

@winterswift frequencies are not such a big deal, programming in a way that correctly utilises multiple cores is the future

fredley

10:59

@winterswift We can. Also diamonds are not scarce or expensive.

kalina

so many applications still get this wrong or don't do it at all

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