The Bridge

fredley

11:00

(apart from artificially inflated gem stones)

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina Yes, this is correct

fredley

@kalina this

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Parallelism is probably the biggest problem

fredley

@kalina I can boot up a machine with 64 logical cores on AWS, but I have no idea how to utilize them.

winterswift

@fredley In due time.

kalina

11:00

if an application correctly utilises multiple cores then your 8 cores at 2.2ghz suddenly becomes 17.6ghz of processing power

fredley

@kalina ...almost. There are significant cacheing and networking overheads

kalina

@fredley I'm not interested in the low level stuff, I'm just making my point

fredley

Many-core chips need to have IP networks built onto them, and wires at that scale are very slow indeed.

@kalina I am :-)

kalina

@fredley avoid talking to me when drunk

(when you are drunk, not me)

fredley

@kalina I'm nearly always drunk when I'm talking to you

(not now though)

kalina

11:02

well I'm high all the time, I don't notice

fredley

@kalina So we're fine

kalina

my managers just did that thing that annoys me greatly

winterswift

Confessions: Arqade Edition

kalina

"we need you to do X, it's really important"

fredley

@winterswift NO U

kalina

11:03

"but I'm going to talk to you all the time and stop you from doing it"

"oh and can you do Y, this is important too"

fredley

@kalina Lumberg -style?

kalina

I just put Microsoft Lync into 'piss off and stop disturbing me' mode

then he phoned up my manager at this site

and she came over and started talking to me

the joys of having multiple managers

fredley

@kalina You've seen Office Space right?

kalina

I just told her "unfortunately I'm not going to get any of the things I've been asked to do today done" -> "why" -> "because everybody insists on talking at me relentlessly instead of letting me actually get on with it"

she walks off

@fredley yes

brb, I'm going to go and get bacon

fredley

@kalina Just checking. Re-watched the other day.

kalina

11:05

today is a bacon day, I need bacon before I launch somebody into the sun

2

winterswift

@fredley So did I.

@kalina Or light your office on fire.

fredley

@winterswift Burn it to the ground

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Let them eat bacon!

fredley

winterswift

@fredley If they take my, my ~~stapler~~ bacon then I...I'll...I'll have to, I'll set the building on fire...

fredley

11:07

@badp please ~~abuse~~ mod his message to get rid of the U

kalina

bacon always makes me sleepy

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@fredley ARQUADE

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone D':

kalina

it's the side effect of being a strict vegetarian for the first 16 years of my life

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina Ah, finally, an antidote to coffee

fredley

11:08

@kalina No, it's a side-effect of bacon in general

kalina

my body just struggles with digesting meat

fredley

Bacon + brie + baguette = a nap in a sandwich

winterswift

:|

kalina

I have bacon + egg + cheese in a baguette

fredley

@kalina Om nom nom

@kalina Try not to cover yourself with it today

winterswift

11:09

Does anyone here watch Castle?

kalina

@fredley this cheese is melted

no chance of escape

fredley

winterswift

Taking this as a no.

kalina

this baguette is the difference between me weighing 50kg and 51kg

definite weight gain in this

winterswift

I like the balance in The Bridge. To make sure we maintain the mediocrity, we spontaneously go from "the future of computing and AI" to "weight gain from baguettes." Splendid.

kalina

11:15

topic of conversation on the bridge is not what I would call 'predictable'

and weight gain is an important topic

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

winterswift

Only when the gender ratio is biased.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

A little bit too busy, perhaps

winterswift

@YiJiang'sEvilClone With the grid in the background, I think so.

kalina

@winterswift regardless of gender ratio

winterswift

11:16

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Actually, I guess my objection is more to the text all over in that empty-ish space on the left-center.

kalina

excessive weight gain is bad for your health

@YiJiang'sEvilClone the ellipse text is the only big out of place imo

winterswift

@kalina I'm aware of this. I'm of perfectly normal weight and still pay it little concern.

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Try moving the date, too, perhaps. It's a little too far off the post header in my opinion.

kalina

@winterswift I am borderline underweight and there is nothing I can do about it

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Oh, the date is still unstyled. I've only just moved it into position for layout

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone yes but its overlapping bolded text in the background

and it clashes

everything else is fine imo

winterswift

11:18

@kalina My weight maintains itself, which is part of why I'm rather unconcerned.

Probably my metabolism.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Yeah, I've moved the ellipse text upwards

kalina

@winterswift mine too, but it maintains it at the 'borderline underweight' point

winterswift

@kalina I'm guessing I could be about 3-5 pounds lighter, but I'm an asthmatic living in Alaska during the depths of winter.

Also, video games and SE are a hell of a lot more interesting.

kalina

I wouldn't go that far

be wary of stackexchange, it will kick you when you least expect it

and the games industry is on the road to self destruction

winterswift

Perhaps you should take what I say a little less literally.

It was an overspecification.

Programming, reddit, shopping for things I'll probably never buy on Amazon...

Loading new ROMs on to my phone?

I could list many things.

fredley

11:23

@kalina Nah

winterswift

@fredley Waiting to see if you defend SE, gaming, or both.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina It's a multi billion dollar industry. And it's growing.

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone for casuals, yes

for hardcore gamers it's dying

winterswift

@kalina Meh.

I wouldn't say that.

kalina

games developers are more interested in consoles, or web browser based games, or games they can fill with microtransactions

fredley

11:24

@kalina Niche markets don't survive well in a multi-billion dollar economy.

kalina

none of these things are conducive to quality game play

fredley

@kalina Indie?

winterswift

@kalina Which is why they likely won't survive.

kalina

@fredley lots of quaint ideas with the occasional brilliant game (cough FTL)

fredley

@kalina Yes. I ought to play that. I wish I had time.

kalina

11:25

@winterswift sure they will, do you think the millions upon millions of people who religiously buy the same call of duty game over and over again care about quality game play?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina Depends on the genre. There are certainly lots of indie platformer that cater to the hardcore crowd

winterswift

@kalina BL2, Bioshock Infinite, and perhaps even CS:GO are valid proof that quality gameplay still exists in a series though.

kalina

@winterswift CS:GO is a 15 year old game that gets remade every 5 years

so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make there

winterswift

Okay, replace it with AC.

kalina

assassin's creed is a game that doesn't even have its core values anymore

winterswift

11:27

I disagree somewhat, but sure.

kalina

Borderlands 2 is just Borderlands with a flimsy extension to the story added on

You aren't saying anything that invalidates my point

winterswift

You're only invalidating mine with your own opinions.

kalina

@winterswift name a single new intellectual property that blew you away

rather than repeating sequel after sequel

winterswift

@kalina I'm guessing FTL doesn't count.

kalina

most of them using the same game engine with none or very little expansion on the original idea

I already stated FTL

it's not a universal rule, but it's the general direction everything is going

fredley

11:30

@kalina Elite is coming in a few years or so...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina Bioshock Infinite looks pretty amazing. It's a "sequel", but only in that it's set in the same universe

kalina

"woo, a few years"

@YiJiang'sEvilClone looks or plays?

winterswift

@kalina You're the one arguing a dystopian industry.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

watch_dog would be amazing if it was even half as good as it's trailer promises

fredley

@kalina Who can say how it plays

@YiJiang'sEvilClone You can say that about almost any game

kalina

11:31

anybody can do borderline photorealistic graphics with a big enough budget

fredley

@kalina Minecraft

kalina

@fredley brb slitting wrists

fredley

@kalina You've never even played it

winterswift

@fredley Where the hell did I put that pistol? ._.

fredley

@winterswift Oi! Why all the Minecraft hate?

kalina

11:32

I've watched other people play it, that was close enough for me

winterswift

@fredley I played that game in early alpha.

kalina

I've watched every single arqade: let's play video

I've watched friends play it

fredley

@winterswift So did I. Still playing.

kalina

now, counterpoint: Diablo 3

winterswift

@fredley It's a god damned disaster.

fredley

11:32

@winterswift You call a game with millions of fans a 'god damned disaster'?

kalina

nowhere near as good as its prequels, poor game, cheap cash in, microtransactions, balanced specifically to make you use the microtransactions

@fredley World of Warcraft has more fans than Minecraft

winterswift

@fredley Yeah, CoD included.

kalina

are you saying that WoW is the best game ever?

CoD is another good example of how your justification for minecraft is fundamentally flawed

fredley

@kalina No, but I'm not calling it a 'god damned disaster'

kalina

CoD is a disaster

fredley

11:33

@kalina In what way?

kalina

@fredley It's single handedly responsible for diluting the tried and tested FPS formula which worked so well on PC

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone "The colors of friendship"?

kalina

and making it into a poor reflection of what it once was, now toned down, slowed down, and released with a different number on the end of it every year

fredley

@kalina They made an enjoyable, accessible game which got accessed and enjoyed. Problem?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp *shrug*

kalina

11:35

lines of code randomly rearranged to form millions of dollars at the expense of actually providing a compelling gaming experience

winterswift

@kalina Not that it takes any part in the dislike I have towards MC, but I think Minecraft partly contributed to the release-during-beta movement.

Which is also a bloody mess.

badp

At any rate don't have the post timestamp overlap with the background text

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp Already mentioned, and fixed

kalina

CoD definitely contributed to Day 1 DLC, Preorder bonus DLC, and releasing maps as DLC for large quantities of money

three plagues of the gaming industry

fredley

@kalina No one's making you play

kalina

11:36

@fredley So I should quit gaming because of the greed of the games industry?

winterswift

@fredley That's not valid justification for alienating gamers.

kalina

I don't play CoD, but unfortunately others follow by example

fredley

@winterswift It works for Minecraft, but I can see how it wouldn't for conventional games

kalina

because CoD can do it, everybody does it.

badp

@kalina You haven't?!

fredley

11:36

@kalina No, just stick to playing games you like.

winterswift

@fredley Have you looked at the prereleases lately?

badp

We've all stopped playing games in 1998. All of our answers come from watching videos on Youtube

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp Seems legit

kalina

@fredley Games I like is becoming an increasingly short list, because every game I like is now plagues by the diseases bought on by the general acceptance of such practices

fredley

@winterswift It's not any companies responsibility to maintain a franchise to keep you happy.

badp

11:37

When we "play together" we mean we hit the play button of the same video at the same time

fredley

@winterswift Yes, think it's awesome.

winterswift

@fredley Which justifies them having people pay to test an unfinished product?

kalina

Because of the general acceptance of this malpractices, SimCity has always on DRM

badp

@winterswift Dude, people today pay to test products that haven't even started being produced.

fredley

@winterswift Pay to play. It was unfinished, is unfinished, and is very fun.

@badp Kickstarter!

winterswift

11:38

@fredley And took a wrong turn, alienating a lot of its original players.

fredley

@winterswift When was that?

kalina

when I am made ruler of the universe, the first life I will take is Robert Kotick's

fredley

@winterswift Also, there's a mod to restore the game to any previous state, so if you like a particular way you can keep it.

winterswift

@fredley Around the point they added separate creative/survival.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@kalina I won't hold my breathe

fredley

11:39

@winterswift That was... a long time ago.

winterswift

@fredley Probably why I stopped playing a long time ago.

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone you shouldn't, lack of oxygen is bad for your health

fredley

@winterswift What was it about that that made you leave?

winterswift

@fredley I didn't just throw my hands up one day and say "To hell with this," you know.

@fredley I gradually quit playing because of the addition of what I view to be bloat.

fredley

@winterswift I get it, but what were the factors?

@winterswift Example?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

11:41

Ugh, yellow is such a stupid color

winterswift

@fredley Hunger.

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone you are wrong

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Friendship is stupid!

winterswift

@fredley Yes, I know I can play in creativemode.

fredley

@winterswift What about Hunger is bloat? It's more a fundamental game mechanic.

It is survival after all.

winterswift

11:42

@fredley Must be why so many people got along without it while Notch made his first millions.

Another example: endermen.

badp

I stopped playing with enchantments and potions

winterswift

They're an enemy with superpowers, which led to the whole enchantment crap.

fredley

@badp Is that why you stopped playing?

badp

The potion system is a whole clusterfuck gloobedydoo of shit I don't care about

fredley

@badp You don't have to make potions.

I rarely do

badp

11:43

The enchantments system, on the other hand, is a glorified slot machine

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp Potato

winterswift

@fredley Not the point. It's becoming bloated beyond belief.

badp

@winterswift I agree. Minecraft has too much stuff built into it that could've, should've been left to mods

fredley

@winterswift I wouldn't call it bloat. It's a fun game.

winterswift

@badp A lot of it was already covered by mods, from what I remember.

badp

11:45

The good thing about mods is you can opt out of them.

You can't opt out of potions.

winterswift

@badp Right.

badp

You can't opt out of enchantements.

fredley

@badp Why not? just don't use them

badp

You can't opt out of those minifying things.

fredley

@badp ditto

@badp what?

badp

11:45

@fredley then somebody comes on your server and uses them

fredley

@badp So?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Can you mod those things away?

badp

@fredley They're into your world.

winterswift

I mean, sure, we can mod/settings them away.

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone That's the ass-backwards way to think about it

winterswift

11:46

But do I really want to put effort into removing a feature?

kalina

that is my first victim taken card of

fredley

@winterswift Eh, I enjoy the fact you can play the game in so many different ways.

badp

There shouldn't be a no-BS version of Minecraft. There should be Minecraft, and then the BS mods for those who want glowing sords of doom

and care about killing each other in the most efficient way possible

kalina

your speeling is terrible

(sic)

badp

@kalina your sord is terrible

fredley

11:47

@badp Don't play on PvP servers then

kalina

@badp ur speeling si gloobedydoo

badp

@kalina Not my fault Google couldn't tell me the correct spelling for that word

kalina

it's not a word

badp

It is

when you type it correctly

kalina

but it's gobbledygook

fredley

11:48

1 hour ago, by Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Chinese room

The Chinese room is a thought experiment presented by John Searle. It supposes that there is a program that gives a computer the ability to carry on an intelligent conversation in written Chinese. If the program is given to someone who speaks only English to execute the instructions of the program by hand, then in theory, the English speaker would also be able to carry on a conversation in written Chinese. However, the English speaker would not be able to understand the conversation. Similarly, Searle concludes, a computer executing the program would not understand the conversation either. ...

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@badp Mojang wants the game to be 'feature complete' with RPG elements. They're selling a game, not a set of plugins so that you can build your own game.

winterswift

@YiJiang'sEvilClone What they're selling is like a car with every possible attachment preinstalled.

badp

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Understanding why Mojang is doing something doesn't imply agreeing with it.

winterswift

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Do I really want to have to pay for a feature just so I can remove it?

kalina

@winterswift My car has 12 wheels 4 turbo chargers a diesel engine a petrol engine an LPG engine and can be driven forwards while sitting in the back

fredley

11:51

@kalina Your car is not a game. KSP though...

badp

@kalina No self-driving? Tsk tsk tsk.

kalina

not to mention it has a periscope!

badp

What about automatic wallet tipping? You've got to have automated wallet tipping.

kalina

@badp we already established earlier in the conversation that sentient artificial intelligence does not exist

badp

@kalina Self-driving cars are things that exist today

kalina

11:51

however, it is capable of communicating with people who work at fast food restaurants

since they have lower than average intelligence anyway

@badp this isn't a discussion based in reality, snap out of it

winterswift

@kalina One day you'll come across that underemployed guy with a PhD.

badp

@winterswift shhhh, it's misanthropy o' clock. Just nod and smile

kalina

@winterswift sure, it's possible, but really who would willingly work in a place like that

@badp try being female, it's always misanthropy o'clock

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

-1

Q: WHICH CHAMPIONS WORK WELL WITH ALOT OF ATTACK SPEED?

Which champions other than master yi work well with stacking attack speed? List as much as you can plz

league-of-legends

OMFG SHOUTING

kalina

so much hatred in the world towards women

fredley

11:54

@YiJiang'sEvilClone ALOT OF ATTACK SPEED

badp

Now I want @Wipqozn to draw me the Alot of Attack Speed.

kalina

If one man died for every violation of human rights towards a woman, the planet would have no men left on it

winterswift

@fredley clap clap clap

@kalina Did someone steal your stapler this morning?

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@winterswift Nah, she hasn't gone full thermonuclear yet

It's the baguette talking

kalina

gaming.stackexchange.com/a/102462/27134

winterswift

11:55

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Just as it adds on that one extra kilogram.

badp

@kalina Less than 10 seconds. NEEEEW RECORD

kalina

speaking of @Wipqozn

Wipqozn

@badp Sure! I'll get my man on it (cc @RonanForman)

badp

@Wipqozn You draw it now and sign it too.

kalina

@badp YOU DELETED ME

I AM UNHAPPY ABOUT THIS

I AM UNHAPPY ALOT

ALOT UNHAPPY

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

11:58

@kalina :(

Wipqozn

kalina

I think @badp abuses his moderator powers alot

winterswift

@wip > And sign it too.

fredley

5

@Wipqozn Dagnamit you beat me

Wipqozn

2

kalina

11:59

I prefer @fredley's alot

Wipqozn

@badp: Signed.

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