The Bridge

fbueckert

15:00

@pixel Yeah, but I doubt each class plays the same; some will be a pet class, some will be more ranged, and some will be more in your face.

pixel

you know what, I might just scrap "how I normally play" and go with something I wouldn't normally do

Martin Sojka

@pixel What, tell us your Bartle type?

pixel

@MartinSojka I have no idea, I just had to google what you were talking about

wtb url that provides the answer

Martin Sojka

Bartle Test

The Bartle Test of Gamer Psychology is a series of questions and an accompanying scoring formula that classifies players of multiplayer online games (including MUDs and MMORPGs) into categories based on their gaming preferences. The test is based on a 1996 paper by Richard Bartle and was created in 1999–2000 by Erwin Andreasen and Brandon Downey. Although the test has met with some criticism for the dichotomous nature of its question-asking method, the test has been taken by a large number of computer game players. As of October 2011, the test had been taken over 700,000 times. The resul...

pixel

don't make me read the whole of a wikipedia article

I will end up with 90 tabs open by the end of that article

initial response: cross between hearts and spades

fbueckert

15:04

@pixel I could link tvtropes.

pixel

@fbueckert sadface

Martin Sojka

There's an online test at gamerDNA - gamerdna.com/quizzes/bartle-test-of-gamer-psychology - not sure how good it is.

fredley

My mum is getting a knitting pattern for xmas. I'm sure she'll be thrilled.

Martin Sojka

@pixel Typically, people use the four letters of Achiever, Explorer, Killer and Socialiser in the order of importance (optionally omitting the less important ones), so that would be "SE" or "ES".

fredley

GTFO

fbueckert

15:12

@MartinSojka I don't think all these either/or questions really give an accurate reflection of personality.

Martin Sojka

Also, here is the background article for the character types

pixel

Your gamerDNA is:
SOCIALIZER

Martin Sojka

@pixel So likely SEAK.

pixel

Some of those questions felt like both answers were incorrect though

some=most

fbueckert

@pixel Yeah, I feel the same way.

Martin Sojka

15:14

That's the problem with such questionnaires. :D

pixel

like there was no "neither" options, just "brag about what you know", "brag about who you've killed"

whereas the actual answer would be "brag? I'm already making my way to the next area..."

fbueckert

sig.gamerdna.com/quizzes/BARTL/109228221.png?force=true

Martin Sojka

@pixel Suggestion: Get a guild and find out where the most populated areas with events are, and make it a point to participate in those.

fbueckert

I ain't signing up for no stupid account.

pixel

@fbueckert I used the snipping tool

because I'm not signing up for any stupid account either

@MartinSojka It still hasn't resolved the question that requires an answer before I can do that, though

fbueckert

15:20

Explorer fits fairly well; I love lore and learning everything there is to know about a world.

Martin Sojka

@pixel We just know better where to put your MMO preferences. :)

pixel

and after finding out what class I am going to play

fbueckert

But Achiever fits me well as a secondary, because I love to tweak every little bit out of my stats.

pixel

I then need to work out which server I'm playing on

which will require a list of who is playing where, along with the timezones they usually play in

and then starts the grind

TylerShads

So, question my much abused, and very much missed ArQAde community

Would you recommend Guild Wars 2 to an ex-Avid WoW player looking for a cheaper alternative?

pixel

15:32

@TylerShads I'll tell you tomorrow

TylerShads

ha

pixel

(as an ex-WoW player, looking for an alternative)

fbueckert

I'd say City of Heroes, but that closes permanently on Friday

And NCSoft never again gets a purchase from me.

pixel

ignore @fbueckert, he's damaged goods when it comes to MMOs

TylerShads

City of heroes. yes let me get attached and pay a sub fee to a MMo that is closing xD

fbueckert

15:33

@pixel My interaction in MMOs is almost always playing solo.

TylerShads

The point I'm making is, I want a WoW like game, but don't want to pay the sub fee

pixel

@fbueckert I would never allow it

playing MMOs solo results in me quitting very quickly

fbueckert

So, why should I play an MMO when I can have the same fun experience without the idiots?

pixel

@fbueckert I take it back, you're just damaged goods in general.

fbueckert

@pixel I started new characters in WoW to play with friends, so we could all party together.

That lasted all of a day before that fell apart.

Sterno

15:35

For once I am completely in agreement with @fbueckert

pixel

@fbueckert damaged damaged la la la la damaged damaged

fbueckert

@Sterno STOP THE PRESSES! @Sterno AGREES WITH ME!?

pixel

@fbueckert if its any consolation, he really just wanted to disagree with me

fbueckert

@pixel Funny, I could say the same thing about you. :P

But rather, it could just be that we like different things.

pixel

@fbueckert I'm damaged goods in general too, but at least I know it

@fbueckert obviously, you just like playing with yourself

no need to be ashamed, literally every guy on the planet is the same

GnomeSlice

15:44

@pixel the same as what?

:/

Also:

Inspirational image of the day....

murgatroid99

@pixel just guys?

GnomeSlice

Or maybe not.

pixel

@murgatroid99 well, I suppose, guys make it more obvious though

TylerShads

ArQAde, where asking about GW2 turns into a discussion worthy of psychaitry

Martin Sojka

@TylerShads So, tell me about your mother ...

OrigamiRobot

15:46

@TylerShads That's how @pixel rolls

TylerShads

@OrigamiRobot With my mother?

OrigamiRobot

Sure, why not?

pixel

@TylerShads and all I wanted to know was which profession I shuold choose

just think what would have happened if I had actually asked that question

GnomeSlice

FUCK, they aren't going to be selling tickets at the door.

TylerShads

@pixel it would be closed as "asked by Pixel"

pixel

15:48

@TylerShads I actually only have one closed question afaik

GnomeSlice

Aaand it's sold out.

TylerShads

@pixel How many questions have youa sked on Movies.SE?

pixel

and I'm not sure it should still be closed at this point, since the subject matter turned out to continue being relevant after release

Martin Sojka

@GnomeSlice No Justin Bieber for you!

pixel

@TylerShads more than I've answered

like 10-15 range

GnomeSlice

15:49

@MartinSojka har har har har

TylerShads

NOW YOU HAVE 10-15 CLOSED QUESTIONS

GnomeSlice

The only promoter in Ottawa is a real douchebag.

pixel

@TylerShads try it, see what happens :P

GnomeSlice

He tried to grope one of my good college friends. While he was dating her sister.

TylerShads

@pixel buwhahahahh

GnomeSlice

15:50

She dumped him and took his dog, which is funny I guess.

pixel

@TylerShads messing with drama results in more drama

GnomeSlice

@pixel AMEN

fredley

@pixel Ignoring drama also results in more drama

pixel

@fredley true story

TylerShads

Thats what you get for romping around with my mother...unless you're actually @GnomeSlice's sock, in which case....

GnomeSlice

15:51

@TylerShads ...What?

TylerShads

@fredley You must have gotten involved in the wrong kind of drama. I ignore drama and have a great life]

GnomeSlice

@TylerShads If that's a joke at my expense, I don't get it. At least, I hope I don't.

fredley

@TylerShads Who are you, and...wtf??

pixel

in fact, once drama occurs, more drama will always follow regardless of your next action

the only control you have left is how much drama occurs next

fredley

@TylerShads Being oblivious to everything must be fun

GnomeSlice

15:52

@fredley It is!

fredley

@pixel Live alone in a shack in the middle of nowhere -> no drama

GnomeSlice

Well, it can be.

fredley

@GnomeSlice You get banned from lots of things, don't you?

pixel

@fredley I live in a field, I still get drama

GnomeSlice

@fredley Not really, that was a joke.

I only get banned from here.

pixel

15:53

@fredley not frequently enough

fredley

@GnomeSlice And 4chan.

GnomeSlice

@fredley I don't even go to 4chan man.

TylerShads

How in the hell do you get banned from 4chan

fredley

@GnomeSlice You posted it the other day!

@TylerShads Ask @GnomeSlice

GnomeSlice

That was just an image my friend linked me because I was asking about that stupid face meme thing.

@TylerShads There's this face people have been posting that apparently gets you banned or something. Let me find it.

yesterday, by GnomeSlice

The internet is terrible.

TylerShads

15:55

o.o

GnomeSlice

@TylerShads Yeah, it's really dumb.

Martin Sojka

@GnomeSlice We already established that by writing "4chan". :)

GnomeSlice

@MartinSojka Well, yeah.

fbueckert

I don't understand why anyone who values their brain cells would ever visit 4chan.

TylerShads

@fbueckert Someone could say the same about any internet thing. But you do it anyway

OrigamiRobot

15:57

@fbueckert The same reason people visit reddit

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot I am happy I don't visit either of those.

Lazers

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Q: SWTOR: Confirmation email address error 16

My char hit level 16 yesterday. When i try to log in today i get the error 16 (you must validate email address). I already tried changing it, but getting the same error. I already validated my email address days ago when i created the account, even validate it with the new email address. Still s...

swtor

murgatroid99

@fbueckert it can be entertaining

OrigamiRobot

@murgatroid99 If you put enough people in a room, of course there is bound to be at least one entertaining conversation.

pixel

@TylerShads "I don't understand why anybody who values their brain cells would ever visit stackexchange" -> doesn't really have the same meaning imo

OrigamiRobot

16:03

That doesn't make it a party I want to go to.

Martin Sojka

@OrigamiRobot I'd add lots of alcohol as flavouring.

TylerShads

@pixel said could,didn't mean it was applicible to all

fbueckert

The reason I stick around the SE network is that it makes no bones about deleting crap.

pixel

@TylerShads I'm sorry, you said could, I forgot to tell you I only do extremes

anybody here will back me up on that

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert I love casting delete votes.

pixel

16:05

I love casting delete votes too

TylerShads

@pixel I like you

OrigamiRobot

Especially the final delete vote.

@TylerShads How romantic.

pixel

@fbueckert we still have loads of minecraft questions, obviously they do

@OrigamiRobot its ok, you're still the only robot made of folded paper for me

TylerShads

@OrigamiRobot YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS OF OUR LOVE

OrigamiRobot

19 secs ago, by pixel

@OrigamiRobot its ok, you're still the only robot made of folded paper for me

pixel

16:06

I feel I should delete that comment before you paste it over and over again

OrigamiRobot

It's too late methinks.

pixel

I didn't even try

fredley

This is depressing:

OrigamiRobot

@pixel I think even if you did delete it, I could just quote my quote.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot also likely

I should be more careful about what I say

fbueckert

16:08

@fredley Life. In a nutshell.

OrigamiRobot

The world may never know.

fredley

@fbueckert Quite

pixel

@fredley looks like my day, except replace 'pick up things' with 'do things' so its more generic

Recount - Girls bought to the yard for overall data
1. 99 (99%) My milkshakes
2. 1 (1%) Your milkshakes

fredley

@pixel If you include money in things, and 'doing work for money' in addition to Pick Up Things, it perfectly models life

pixel

that was totally in the wrong window

fredley

16:10

@pixel My milkshakes bring the 1%

I'm happy with that

pixel

I used to use that as a macro in WoW

whenever somebody linked their "leet dps"

fbueckert

@fredley Seeing as how 99% of people aren't worth knowing, I'm also perfectly happy with that.

Sometimes, I read things about people that make me shake my head.

pixel

@fbueckert only if we're talking integers

its 99.99% otherwise

OrigamiRobot

You're face is an integer.

fbueckert

And then I imagine painting grenades as easter eggs, and nailing them into sidewalks.

And I giggle about how fast the population would decrease.

pixel

16:12

@OrigamiRobot how the hell do you even come back on something like that?

woo it's about time we got some new stats

I am no longer covered in grated cheese \o/

fredley

@pixel Your rounding is bad, and you should feel bad.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Comebacks don't work NEARLY as well with spelling mistakes.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Nah, they work better.

pixel

@fredley you think my rounding bothers me at all?

fredley

@fbueckert Nailing grenades not the best method of adhesion

2

@pixel It bothers me goddamit

OrigamiRobot

16:14

@pixel Your face -> your mom -> your dog -> your mom's dog's face

pixel

O_O

OrigamiRobot

Apply further iterations as needed.

fbueckert

@fredley Eh. Simplifying the procedure for easier consumption.

The idea is there.

And if someone actually tries to nail grenades to sidewalks, it proves my point even more.

fredley

@fbueckert You start nailing grenades the population will decrease by exactly 1

pixel

@fbueckert @fredley I am going to use this for my obvious rounding error as well, it's so obvious I thought you could look past the obviousness of the obvious

@fredley only if somebody isn't standing next to him

fredley

16:16

@pixel Who would stand next to someone nailing a grenade?!

@pixel Can't compute, brain too frazzled

pixel

which I guess is a fair assumption in the desolate wastes of Canada

fbueckert

@pixel I'm not even discussing your integers! Quit including me in it!

@fredley Another person that thinks it's a good idea?

pixel

@fbueckert It was your integer, I used a decimal...

fredley

@fbueckert I think you've proved my point

pixel

@fredley somebody oblivious to the fact that @fbueckert is suicidal enough to nail a grenade to the floor?

OrigamiRobot

16:17

Are integers a euphemism now? I am not good at these things.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot yes, we're talking about cake.

cake is also an euphemism

OrigamiRobot

I like ice cream cake

pixel

sorry4u

Ullallulloo

english.people.com.cn/90777/8035568.html

fredley

@Ullallulloo <3 Onion

OrigamiRobot

16:19

@Ullallulloo Did the talk of cake remind you of this?

fbueckert

Three anonymous suggested edits, three rejected invalid edits.

OrigamiRobot

That was a dumb flag.

Hello flag responder @Manishearth!

pixel

FLAG RESPONDER DISPATCHED

Manishearth

Hi :)

pixel

TARGET ACQUIRED

fbueckert

16:24

Are we flagging stupid things again?

pixel

@fbueckert Only everything you say

Manishearth

Apparently yes

Please stop

There were 2 flags, I think (only saw one)

pixel

don't blame me, it wasn't me.

OrigamiRobot

Not as stupid as Math's

pixel

blame @badp

fbueckert

16:24

@pixel Don't I get an indication if someone flags something of mine?

OrigamiRobot

@Manishearth Oh, I also only saw one.

Manishearth

@fbueckert nope

fbueckert

@Manishearth Huh. Good to know.

Manishearth

Users with a total of 10k rep can see some types of flags, though

OrigamiRobot

@Manishearth I am glad that flag abuse could bring us together. Could it be fate?

pixel

16:28

I get to see blue flags

but I never saw one that time

whoever flagged last time should flag again

Manishearth

@OrigamiRobot :P

pixel

so I can test if I can see it

;)

Manishearth

Don't do that

fbueckert

That makes me glad I can't see flags, because then I'd have even more stupid stuff to deal with.

Manishearth

You ping all us mods. We have better things to do :)

pixel

16:29

oh in that case

EVERYBODY SPAM FLAGS, SPAM THE MODS, FOR GREAT JUSTICE

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert But it's fun to be part of a 10ker wave that joins a room to fuss at people.

fbueckert

Aaaaand @pixel promptly gets banned for a period of time.

Martin Sojka

@pixel No, thanks. I get chat ban for silly crap often enough as it is. :)

pixel

@fbueckert timing is of the essence, it's home time in 1 minute, 20 minutes to get home, 10 minutes to warm up -> flag sorted

fbueckert

@pixel requests a day-long ban so that it actually means something :P

pixel

16:30

@fbueckert rofl

Lazers

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Q: Do your opponents gain the benefit of a religion you found?

Most Religions benefits appear to apply to all followers. Example: Guruship: +2 Production if city has a Specialist My question is, do these only benefit the founding civilization, or all cities with a majority rule (icon shown in city status bar)? If it benefits everyone, including your op...

civ-5-gods-and-kings

pixel

I wouldn't abuse that privilege, one day I might actually want a full day ban just so I get some work done

OrigamiRobot

Shut up @Lazers or I'll flag you!

pixel

lol

flag spam on @Lazers

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Robot yelling at a fellow robot.

sigh What has this world come to?

pixel

16:32

@fbueckert @Lazers isn't made out of paper though

superiority complex obviously

home time \o/

OrigamiRobot

@pixel And lacks the delicate touch required to fold paper.

Hey it's @AbbyT.Miller! I met her IRL! waves

Abby T. Miller

yo!

OrigamiRobot

You're late to the flag party. Everyone else left.

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot What

@OrigamiRobot Did I get flagged while I was away from my laptop

Abby T. Miller

flag party????

OrigamiRobot

16:39

@GnomeSlice No, but it was a stupid flag.

tiddy

@AbbyT.Miller <3 Welsh

OrigamiRobot

GnomeSlice

What was flagged? I still only have 7.4k reps...

fredley

@OrigamiRobot Someone flag this

GnomeSlice

@fredley I think they already have!

Abby T. Miller

16:41

my parents are sailors, and for one christmas my sister knitted them a bunch of code flag christmas tree ornaments. my parents spent days looking up which letters they stood for and trying to figure out what she possibly could have been spelling. finally they asked her, and the answer was: "what? oh, i just picked the flags i thought were the coolest looking."

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert By the way, are you still here?

fredley

@AbbyT.Miller Innocuous trolling

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Yeah, I'm kicking around.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Well, get more.

GnomeSlice

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Q: Are There Any Benefits/Drawbacks to the Different Movement Types Besides Speed?

Once you research the necessary Science and train your soldiers with the correct military skills, they gain the ability to perform a variety of different stances, both while moving and while stationary. The new abilities are as follows: Stationary Abilities Lie Prone Crouch Stand (Default) ...

ufo-afterlight

fbueckert

16:44

@GnomeSlice Yeah, I saw it; I still have to do some testing.

Because the in-game glossary doesn't tell you.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert Oh, okay.

@fbueckert There's an in-game glossary?

Bah.

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Little ? on the menu bar, when not in combat.

Simple answer: Crouching and prone increase accuracy, and decrease chance to get hit.

Running and prowling change movement speed, and affect stealth.

GnomeSlice

I'd guessed that crouching increased accuracy from my gameplays... I would have assumed that lying prone might have decreased it... huh.

Martin Sojka

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert 'stealth'? There's a 'thing' for stealth?

Martin Sojka

16:46

She should have put that one up. At least it's well-known.

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice There's no indicator, but, yes, it does.

GnomeSlice

@MartinSojka Means nothing to me.

fbueckert

I can often get my melee dude real close before he gets noticed and shot at.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert How? Which type is the most stealthy? Crawling?

I haven't even played the game in weeks, it's gotten to the point where I just can't progress any farther, the missions are all too difficult.

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Prowling; which is crawling, yes.

Moves slow as crap, yeah, but easiest way to make sure you don't get noticed.

But Beastmen can smell you anyways, and Reticulans can use their Psi abilities to notice you.

GnomeSlice

16:49

Fucking Beastmen.

fbueckert

So it's of limited use against either of those.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert What else is there? Robots I guess.

fbueckert

Not sure how Martians detect.

@GnomeSlice It'll work on robots; they use optical cameras.

Martin Sojka

@GnomeSlice That's the text signalled in 1805-10-21 from the HMS Victory.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Not all of us.

FAE

16:51

Yay, I didn't lose my consecutive days streak yet!

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot You threw a hissy fit when I offered to include you in my squad.

So your opinion is moot.

Tim Stone

@FAE Yay!

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert YOU WANTED TO MAKE ME A SOULLESS DRONE

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot I WANTED TO GIVE YOU QUAD ROCKET LAUNCHERS!

OrigamiRobot

Whoa you never said nothin bout no rockets

@FAE I hope you do out of spite and jealousy.

FAE

16:53

@TimStone It's inevitable while I'm here, as when I get to dialup, I won't be able to get on, but I'm gonna try to keep it going til then. >_>

@OrigamiRobot ^^

OrigamiRobot

Good. Good.

Tim Stone

@FAE Just have to visit one page! ;)

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Yes, I said eventually I could give you a quad weapon mount. And you just went, "QUIT CONDESCENDING TO ME!"

Invader Skoodge

I can't believe dialup is still a thing.

fbueckert

So fine. You don't get no quad rocket launchers.

FAE

16:54

@InvaderSkoodge No mobile coverage where they live either.

OrigamiRobot

@FAE Wait you're telling me you hope I lose my streak!

FAE

@OrigamiRobot I don't mind if you streak.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert You never said rockets

FAE

also @Fluttershy says hello!

Invader Skoodge

I lost my streak due to hurricane.

fbueckert

16:56

@OrigamiRobot For quad mounts, it's either that, or gatling guns.

OrigamiRobot

@FAE I can't help but think those messages are related.

Tim Stone

@FAE Hell, even my grandma's house has mobile coverage, and she's pretty out of the way. It's spotty, but there (and we made her get satellite internet >_>)

fbueckert

Either way, you would've been badass. You turned it down.

FAE

@OrigamiRobot <_< >_> ^_^

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert YOU DIDN'T GIVE ME ALL THE INFO

Tim Stone

16:56

Too late now, roboot

BADASSERY DENIED

OrigamiRobot

COMMAND ACCEPTED

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot I distinctly remember mentioning that rocket launchers were available.

FAE

@TimStone My parents can't afford the $60-$70 per month it costs to get satellite out there. Also there's lots of trees by them. They had to cut a hole through some so they could get DirecTV.

pixel

@InvaderSkoodge yes but you survived the hurricane, I still call that a win

fbueckert

That said, if you still want to be in the squad, I guess I could rename one of the generics.

KitFox

16:58

Weekly Writer's Chat going on now in The Overlook Hotel. Today we're talking about books we like, and the end run for NaNoWriMo. Come join us if you like/dare.

Tim Stone

@FAE Probably for the best anyway, it's rather piss-poor service for the cost.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert Gar, my drones are useless.

They die almost immediately.

OrigamiRobot

BEWARE I LIVE

pixel

@KitFox blatant advertising! :P

FAE

@TimStone Yeah. :/

KitFox

16:58

@pixel Yes. I am not trying to hide it.

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Until you get dual weapon mounts, their usefulness is pretty pathetic.

Tim Stone

@FAE Just string a really long cable from @Fluttershy's house and you'll be set.

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