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16:00
@fbueckert I'd rather pay 3m and get an MP9-10 carry
@OrigamiRobot Fair enough. I haven't the cash to do that, and I'd prefer to earn my parts, but to each their own.
@fbueckert I earned the money so I earn what I pay for with it. I just don't want to waste hours and hours at 20% per organ
I like EA.
I mean, I don't dislike EA, rather.
@OrigamiRobot True. And I haven't gotten lucky enough to get an item that sells for massive amounts. I might do the same if I have extra money to burn.
16:04
@fbueckert Run A3 on MP1. You'll make money from gold drops.
@Fluttershy Why is EA to blame here?
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Q: What is the weak point on the Promethean Watcher?

EBongoI find the Crawlers pretty easy to headshot, and the Knights seem to at least take a lot of damage if not one hit when their shields are down, if aiming at the head. The Watchers don't exactly seem to have a head, and focusing on the center "head thing" doesn't seem to improve the take down time...

@OrigamiRobot They're not.
@Fluttershy As much as I dislike EA, this one seems more like an error of judgement on the part of the marines.
I need to head to class. tortoise swoosh
@Wipqozn Then it isn't a reason to hate EA. 3/10 @Fluttershy
16:06
Spoilers: @Fluttershy was one of the Navy Seals that got punished.
@fbueckert Or run Hell A3 on MP10. Good money there, but awful item drops.
okay, but, swooshing.
Android Game Pick: My Little Hero (ACNE Play Team) http://bit.ly/TfBlmq
This looks pretty nice.
@Wipqozn Handsome turtles skip class. Are you not handsome?
@OrigamiRobot If I wanted to gold farm, that's definitely what I'd do. But I much prefer to progress, at least a little bit, rather than just mindlessly grind gold.
16:07
@OrigamiRobot Handsome people, not handsome tortoises.
@Wipqozn Tortoises don't even go to class.
@fbueckert A little grind can make more progress in the long run. What are you progressing towards?
@Fluttershy This is relevant to my stomach's interests >_>
I like this more every time I listen to it.
@OrigamiRobot Extra paragon levels. A chance at a decent legendary. Earning keys without needing somebody else to do it for me.
Yeah, somebody could help me do those faster, but then, am I really earning it myself?
16:10
@fbueckert So you want items and experience. Sounds like grinding to me
@OrigamiRobot Also keys. And organ parts. Yeah, it's grinding, but I can happily say I did it all myself, without shortcutting the system by getting somebody to do it for me.
@fbueckert Right. You can do it yourself by getting better items. Which you get with gold.
@OrigamiRobot I don't find just gold grinding all that fun. It's just repeating the same old thing, over and over and over.
Right now, at least I have a specific goal in mind for my runs. Farm keys. Hope for decent items in the process.
Gold is an incidental along that path.
@fbueckert I don't see the difference.
Whatever you're grinding, it's still grinding.
At least make it worth the time.
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16:16
Having a day where my eyes don't want to focus on the same point. It is very visually confusing. It will go away, but it is always weird.
@pixel FRIDAY WARNING
Is it Friday?
I didn't know
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, what you're doing is certainly much faster than what I'm doing. We're both grinding.
user15026
@pixel aw shit I keep thinking it is Thursday.
16:18
I don't know why I'm so opposed to just caving and paying for a carry.
@fbueckert Removes the actual point of playing a game like Diablo
@fbueckert I will ask for help now to make the path to self sufficiency shorter.
33 secs ago, by OrigamiRobot
@fbueckert I will ask for help now to make the path to self sufficiency shorter.
@OrigamiRobot Removing the gear grind from a gear grind game is removing the actual point
@OrigamiRobot Asking for help is one thing. Paying for it is something else. I think that's where I'm getting hung up on it.
@pixel That's not what this is.
16:20
@OrigamiRobot Diablo series has always been a gear grind
The people who can do MP9 are exactly the people who don't need the cash.
not like you're there for the story
@fbueckert I'll pay 3m now to get the +35% XP which will get me paragon faster
@pixel You are misinterpreting my point
@OrigamiRobot what is your point?
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, you have the 3m to spare to get it; I wasn't lucky enough to find items that sold for massive amounts of cash.
16:22
do you play on the american servers @fbueckert?
@pixel Yup
aww
I'd have redownloaded it to give you 3 mil if we were on the same servers
not like I'm ever going to use it
@fbueckert It's not all from items. That's what I'm trying to tell you.
@Ullallulloo Did you get the Indie Royale Bundle?
@GnomeSlice No
16:23
@Ullallulloo You should.
@pixel My point is that spending 1 hour for reliable income is better than 5 hours for a 20% chance at the same amount
Pineapple Smash Crew is awesome.
PSC is the only thing I really want from it, and I'm short on money.
I figured that I'd just wait for a sale on it alone.
@OrigamiRobot My point is paying for a boost is not that far off from changing values in memory to give yourself infinite ammo or gold
just pointless
Oh, hey, there's a guy selling full uber runs at MP8 for 1.5m.
16:24
removes the challenge, no point in playing easymode, etc
THAT, I can afford.
each to their own though
@Ullallulloo Spirits and BasketBelle look neat too, but I'm broke.
@pixel False.
17 secs ago, by pixel
each to their own though
brb
16:25
3 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot
@pixel You are misinterpreting my point
@fbueckert With your machines I assume
@OrigamiRobot Yes. Which is fair.
I'd say so.
Just need two more A2 keys.
80% is still a good number
When you told me 3m for a MP9 run, I thought that was 3m per uber.
16:27
All I want is the +35% XP for now. Then I'll farm my own XP
@fbueckert No no no hell no. 3m per full run.
@OrigamiRobot Ahh. That makes much more sense, then.
And sometimes you can get MP10 at that price
I assume that's still your own machines, though.
THAT, I can afford.
Yes. It's like 6m if you use theirs
There's one guy offering free MP7 uber runs with your machines. That's also not bad.
16:30
@fbueckert Yea I'd take that.
@OrigamiRobot I still have to grind out two more keys, though.
@OrigamiRobot @Wipqozn They're just as much at fault for asking for the information. Shady business deals take two parties. @fbueckert Navy, not Marines. Also, they should've known better, I agree. Still, you think they would've divulged anything had EA not offered them a large sum of money?
@fbueckert I can help you get keys when i get home. I can do A2 on MP5 or so.
@Fluttershy I disagree completely.
@OrigamiRobot Of course you do. It wouldn't be a normal day if you didn't! In fact, I'd be worried! =P
@Fluttershy They reap what they sow. They decided the amount of money thrown at them was worth divulging classified information.
16:33
13 hours ago, by OrigamiRobot
@Fluttershy SHUT UP I WILL EAT YOU
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Eufloria is an odd game. I think I like it.
EA's not at fault for doing so; that's standard business practice.
@OrigamiRobot Uhh. I've got about two hours or so free once I get home. 4:30 CST work for you?
@fbueckert That's 5:30 EST? Probably works.
@OrigamiRobot Cool.
Also, I can now get up to 110K DPS.
MP2 basically melts, as long as I don't run into freaking Molten runners.
For some reason, though, Writhing Deceivers hit like freaking tanks. They hit me much harder than they should be able to.
@fbueckert I went down to 130k to get an extra 100k effective health from FoT with the dodge rune
16:40
@OrigamiRobot Replaced Deadly Reach?
@fbueckert No, replaced WotHF
Work is boring. Entertain me!
@OrigamiRobot Rather give up attack speed than the damage, huh?
16:43
@fbueckert Yea, because the second strike with Way is super slow. I don't have as much listed damage, but my effective damage is the same
You all need to play Freak Fortress 2 (a TF2 mod).
OMG, Powerlord mentioned TF2?! What a shock!
The review queues really should take your ignored tags into account.
@Powerlord that's the Saxton Hale mod except up to date, right?
and with extra bells and whistles bosses
@badp Yes
Mainly it adds the ability to add new bosses.
EXECUTE DBMS_WM.FreezeWorkspace('previous', 'WM_ONLY', NULL, TRUE);
EXECUTE DBMS_WM.FreezeWorkspace('current', 'WM_ONLY', NULL, TRUE);
er.... ignore that
16:47
I CAN'T IGNORE IT. MY WORKSPACE IS FROZEN. WELL DONE.
@Powerlord Nice :D
@badp Just imagine what it did to @OrigamiRobot
Unless you really care about us freezing our Oracle workspaces
(also I like the passing of flag literals via string constants. Looks suitably enterprisey.)
@SaintWacko I̎͠ ͈͇͑̈̄ͅa̖̱̜͊̀m̫̼͎̩̹͉ͨ͠ ͐f́̑̄̿́͏̳̗͙͙͈̝ỉ̘̳͗͐̏̏̈ͭ͝n͖̜͙͈̺͈̉̍͡e͈̦͉̲͒̇ͩͦ̊̚.̶̗̠̑̐ͬ̒ͣ
Actually, since I don't have anything to do until one of our DB devs fixed the server-side object constructors (which throws an error if I try updating it) I have nothing to do... I should work on some SourceMod stuff.
Which includes Freak Fortress 2, since I've essentially taken over as lead developer for it.
16:49
@OrigamiRobot Ah, yes, yes, of course you are
"Hello, tech support?"
I see people were doing speed tests earlier.
At least the state government doesn't scrimp here:
@Powerlord It is futile. NONE CAN ESCAPE SINISTAR!
I only wish my home connection were anywhere near that.
normally I queue up like a month's worth of downloads and leave them going
I did that earlier and 75% of what I queued has finished
@Powerlord Lol
Oct 30 at 16:26, by GnomeSlice
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@Powerlord Holy shit, faster than 99% of the US.
16:55
@GnomeSlice Government for you
@Powerlord That's pretty much my home connection.
(No time to show off right now.)
@ArdaXi Yeah, but you live on one of the satellites.
Or something.
@Powerlord wow, even my school isn't that fast
Pretty sure I win here, guys.
@GnomeSlice for some definition of winning
17:03
@murgatroid99 How do you think I cope with my life?
user15026
@gnomeslice yeah. Even mine is not that bad.
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Q: Is XP from challenges/commendations/double XP affected by the daily XP cap?

EBongoI have heard varying reports about the exact amount of the online XP limit. However, given that some of the challenges and commendations have fairly big payouts, and since Mountain Dew is running another on of their beloved double XP promotions, I'm curious if the cap applies to these XP "bonuse...

Oct 15 at 2:25, by GnomeSlice
@BrianColvin I don't have internet, sorry.
@BenBrocka My laptop does a hundred times as much noise at all times. CRYBABY
@RonanForman I need a picture of Sinistar eating a turtle. Can you make this happen? I have a budget of unlimited robot hugs.
17:10
uh, so the TF2 halloween thing is already over and I'm stuck with three pyro souls
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@AshleyNunn I got up to selecting if I wanted to play a boy or a girl and then passed out... Sooo.. yeah I didnt get to play it much last night :(
@James Wanna help me get up to speed in MWO tonight?
@OrigamiRobot I dunno, last time you said anything to me it was ABOUT DESTROYING ME!!!!! so that doesn't exactly make me want to help you get more dangerous :)
What? When?
17:26
@badp Laptops are not reknowned for their efficient and quiet heat dissipation
Also I think it's funny someone recommended I buy a $300 processor instead of replacing the $10 fan
@OrigamiRobot Bah, my search capabilities seem to suck
And I have a meeting
Ill get back to you when you have your next CAPS attack :D
@badp does your starred message imply you've finally gotten Borderlands 2?
@James IT PROBABLY WONT BE LONG
@BenBrocka This sounds like an excuse I use when I am looking for reasons to upgrade.
@OrigamiRobot lol. It's a new proc though. They were just fanboying. I have plenty of other things to upgrade
Probably the case next
@BenBrocka Antec makes good cases.
17:33
I have an antec, looking at the cooler master HAF X
it's a full tower, mine's a mid (antec 300)
I have an Antec 1200. I've been very impressed at how quiet all the fans are.
Mid > Full
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Q: Fallout Map Size in "Game Cells"

JTolandSo I found the answer to this question fascinating and it got me to thinking, "I wonder how this compares to other Bethesda games...?" I've read quite a bit about the comparison being "bigger than" Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, etc, but I want to actually be able to do the math exactly...

@OrigamiRobot Why? Mine's already cramped. The full case is heavier and bigger but that's really the only problem. The HAF would be vastly better for cooling and has some nice features like hot swap bays, proper cable management
@BenBrocka What is it cramped with?
17:40
Anything. The graphics card leaves like 1/4th of an inch of clearance from the HDD bays, not much room for cables (worse since it's not a modular PSU)
@BenBrocka That must just be a crappy mid tower setup
HDD bays should face out
I have an excellent laptop
@OrigamiRobot Ah HA! HA!!!! See!!!
Pretty standard size. Most higher end GPUs are extremely long and few mid towers have more than half an inch of room left after installing one
@BenBrocka If the HDD bays were facing out as they should be, it would be a non-issue
17:45
Front-accessible HDD bays? I haven't seen those on many cases
@BenBrocka I mean facing out towards the open side.
Like that
@BenBrocka That's how mine work. I like them.
Haven't seen that on many cases either
Really? That is the only way to go.
That one has a bottom mounted PSU configuration which I do not care for.
...Why? Most new ones are bottom mounted. Hanging ones ruin a great opportunity for air flow
17:49
I don't like the fact that it blows air out of the bottom.
I guess it's closer to the board but that's about it
^ This also.
Sometimes the cables don't reach, but that's probably a bad PSU in the first place.
It has to blow air out somewhere, and being at the bottom allows a rear fan at the top
@BenBrocka It's great if you keep your box on a desk or have hardwood floors, but I have carpet and no room on my desk. It's just a preference dictated by circumstance.
@OrigamiRobot My case almost looks like that.. except it doesnt have handle bars on top of it :)
17:58
Ah. Yeah I have a hardwood floor. Hate carpets.
Handlebars seem neat, unfortunately the HAF X doesn't have them. But it's going to be a pain to cart around anyway, the case is 31lbs
@BenBrocka Haha, that is the case I have.
@BenBrocka I'd like hardwood floors.
@OrigamiRobot The HAF X case comes with optional wheels, it would lift it up off most carpets as well.
@James That's weird and I don't like it one bit!
@James Really? How do you like it?
18:01
@BenBrocka it does, James paid it for me :)
@OrigamiRobot They're awesome. Lots of victorian era homes in our area so I'm spoiled by high ceilings, nice floors, non-terrible siding, etc
@BenBrocka I love it. I have looked at more new cases figuring it would be a bit dated as of now.. but honestly all the other new cases are just looking more like the HAF X case.
I'm at the part where the game throws me a lot of open indoor spaces and big baddies and as a gunzerker that's not exactly super awesome. I'm kind of struggling
Some bastard cut up the floor in what's now my bedroom though. Threw a hideous oak hatch to the basement in the middle of a nice hardwood floor
@BenBrocka Only thing to be aware of is the first run of them had a construction flaw
18:02
@BenBrocka I live in a crappy apartment.
@James It seems like it's still about the best of the best
@BenBrocka That was the summary I came up with as well when looking.. Its annoying. I want to build a new computer but every time I peek at hardware and such I am already there.. and its all 2-3 years old! :(
What is going on with the computer industry!!! Sheesh
This is my case. I am a hypocrite because the HDD bays face towards the back T_T
Anywho, time to run out and get a hot coco, its freezing here today (61 degrees!)
I'm upgrading a few things and I only got my stuff a few months ago. But I was intentionally conservative with what I got
18:03
@OrigamiRobot Yer not a hypocrite just because you have a normal case :P
@James Get SSDs, at least one for your OS. that's for sure an upgrade over anything (even an SSD) from 2-3 years ago
Just don't swap on the SSD
@James I was just talking about HDD bays facing out being proper.
@BenBrocka Yeah so far they do not seem to be worth it outside of laptops
Heh, I just got a thing on G+ saying that: "3 of your friends work at SE, do you work there too?"
18:04
What's a swapfile? Get more RAM
a swap file is what windows will make no matter what
@James Are you kidding? They're amazing.
and will write to no matter what
@BenBrocka DDR3 is so disgustingly cheap right now.
@BenBrocka I have 4 GB of ram, 4.9 GB committed, 1.5 in my swap. Y U NO UNSWAP IN THE BACKGROUND WINDOWS
18:05
@BenBrocka My system already boots up in about 20 seconds man
Anywho
afk, hot coco run :)
The pagefile? You can totally disable the pagefile
@James THANK YOU
Windows 8 boots as fast as it takes to read ~400 MB from the disk
just sayin'
maybe more maybe less than 400 MB I don't know
@badp The only solution I found to prevent Windows from swapping out unnecessarily was to just go up to 16GB RAM
Windows 8 bootime is limited by how long it takes you to get passed the login screen and switch to desktop...I keep meaning to disable those "features"
18:07
@MadScientist I don't have a problem with it swapping out in the background but it could also swap in in the background as memory consumption relaxes
Still, SSDs aren't only for the quick boot, anything that reads OS files is faster
instead it just waits for you to click on the Powerpoint button on the taskbar, and then everything halts to a grind for 30 seconds.
And you only clicked on the Powerpoint button on the taskbar to close it.
@badp Never swapping out in the first place will also solve this problem ;-)
And you sigh.
@MadScientist Yeah, laptops, expandability, oxymorons, etc.
It's probably easier to solder on 16GB of RAM into a laptop than to teach Windows new tricks
18:09
Did I mention I really need to learn how to build computers out of parts?
Like, a fucking tower. Laptops are the spawn of the devil.
@badp It's not hard at all. You could learn in an hour.
There's not too much to it. The important part is having access to spare hardware to be able to troubleshoot efficiently if something goes wrong
Yea that's helpful.
@OrigamiRobot I'm clumsy and have pretty much 0 experience or spare parts (TIL you need them).
via reddit via smbc
18:11
@Wipqozn now via the Bridge
@badp Experience is easily gained.
@murgatroid99 via wipqozn
@badp You only need them if something goes wrong. It's hard to send in parts for replacement when you have no idea which part is broken
Newegg has stellar customer service in that regard.
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@wipqozn that poor poor book. :(
18:11
doubt they ship to Italy
@AshleyNunn It's even worse when they tear out half the pages, and then completely change (see also: ruin) the remaining half.
@Wipqozn ...AND THE MOVIE WAS STILL TOO LONG, SO THEY SPLIT IT! IN EIGHT PARTS!
@badp Ah, I forgot about this detail. They do not.
user15026
@wipqozn oh man. So true.
The hardest parts are CPUs, GPUs, and PSUs
For CPUs and GPUs, there is Tom's Hardware.
18:15
yeah, last tower I had featured an underpowered PSU
not fun
PSUs are just so hard to search in my experience.
@OrigamiRobot I just went with a company with generally good reputation (Seasonic) for PSUs, and they haven't blown up yet
@MadScientist I just mean looking at the actual Amperage on the rails and how "multiple rails" aren't really that
it's two thousand and fucking twelve, ORACLE
18:21
@badp And Ask is still throwing money at them to add that to their installer.
@fbueckert And Oracle should know better than to accept that money
@Wipqozn Now to find some stairs down!
@badp Why? As far as they're concerned, it's free money.
Goodwill is money!
bbl
It's not like their corporate image will get any worse due to continuing to include that.
18:23
@Wipqozn I go and get hot chocolate and come back to a turtle who is not happy with his dinky shell
@OrigamiRobot Haha, Not an SSD fan?
@OrigamiRobot @badp amazon.com/…
There is no other PSU aside from that one.. again, no new CPU, just the same one I have bought twice now.
@James I just don't think the time they save is anywhere near worth the amount they cost
@OrigamiRobot I have two velociraptors mirrored, they are plenty fast :D
@James I just use a normal 7200 RPM drive. I have no issues. I never reboot so I'm not gonna save time there
I'm debating whether to pick up two more 750gb 7200 rpm hard drives and put them in raid 5, or just buy one more and put it them in raid 0, and use the third slot for an SSD
user15026
18:43
@James I guess I understand the need for sleep, but omg how dare you not tell me all there is to know about farming on my 3ds.
@AshleyNunn :(
user15026
@James how am I supposed to know if I need to be fulfilling my farming destiny or not? ;p
@AshleyNunn Hold on, I am looking for a magic 8 ball :)
user15026
@James Oooh let me know what it says! That is foolproof way to determine my destiny! ;)
@AshleyNunn ZOMG, It said 'Yes'!!!
user15026
18:52
@James oh snaaaaaap can't argue with that! Now I just gotta find me a farm. And some chickens. I know. Gamestop will have what I need!
@AshleyNunn lol
@AshleyNunn ...farming?
user15026
I am in the silliest mood today. I apologize in advance for any shenanigans.
@AshleyNunn Farming! Do crops first. Wait for animals until a year or two in.
user15026
@powerlord Harvest Moon.
user15026
18:53
@fbueckert you are a wise man in the ways of chickens.
user15026
And turnips
Hmm, sounds like Sony is in serious financial trouble.

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