The Bridge

user2334

14:00

Euro area growth momentum will continue to be weak? How drole!

OrigamiRobot

Indeed

Martin Sojka

I have a hard time reconciling "growth" (a measure of acceleration, something per time unit squared) with "momentum" (a measure how hard it is to change something's current course by applying said acceleration).

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MartinSojka Given that the eurozone is flirting with negative growth, I don't see any issue reconciling the two.

FAE

@MarkTrapp Yeah, but you can't ignore that factor really.

user2334

@MartinSojka that's inertia, not momentum

user2334

14:06

@FAE Oh I agree. I was being facetious given Martin's earlier remark :P

FAE

@MartinSojka The normal trust and intimacy issues involved in balancing managing your time and energy with one partner are compounded when you add more than one person to the relationship. "Just" managing time/energy between spending time with a lover versus your friends is way different than managing time/energy with one lover versus another lover.

@MarkTrapp Aaah, gotcha.

GnomeSlice

@FAE You can have one wife for every day of the week!

Martin Sojka

@FAE So they're the same issues, just involve more energy?

FAE

@GnomeSlice Well, hey, if you want.

Martin Sojka

@MarkTrapp Well, using mv (momentum) or ma (inertia) here doesn't really change my problem that I don't understand what "growth momentum" is supposed to mean.

GnomeSlice

14:09

OrigamiRobot

@MartinSojka More complicated is probably more accurate.

GnomeSlice

This was made much funnier by the fact that Prince Hapi was played by Arnold Schwarzenegger.

badp

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LessPop_MoreFizz

@MartinSojka It's referring to the increasing rate of growth, as measured as a percentage of GDP. i.e. going from .4% to .6% to .8 % over three quarters.

FAE

@MartinSojka No, not quite. Most monogamous couples don't have to deal with the issues of romantic and sexual jealousy and insecurity with their partner's friends, whereas you do with multiple partners. Factors like being poly with monogamous partners, long distance, etc. etc. exacerbate things even more.

LessPop_MoreFizz

14:11

@badp Fun Fact: My experiences are primarily as the mono half in what's referred to as a poly/mono couple. Feel free to go looking things up or just ask @fae whatever. I really need to get to work.

badp

I was just kidding

LessPop_MoreFizz

> Factors like being poly with monogamous partners

is a big one, speaking from experience.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yes, this is... huge, speaking from the other half of that.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp I know you were. Hence, "Fun Fact" and not "GODDAMNIT YOU MORON NO"

GnomeSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz Is that the relationship where you're allowed to sleep with other people?

LessPop_MoreFizz

14:12

@FAE Funnily enough, she had the trust issues. Not me.

badp

@GnomeSlice That's just being mutual sex buddies isn't it :P

LessPop_MoreFizz

Mainly, she was just really freaked out that I was actually cool with the situation from day one.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz Sucks. :(

GnomeSlice

Open relationships don't work out very often.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GnomeSlice Poly != Open relationship.

Open relationship is a subset of poly, not a synonym.

GnomeSlice

14:13

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh, so it's not the one I was thinking of. Nevermind.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz Gotcha. I know there can often be the worry that you're being unfair to the mono person, was that part of her issues?

Actually you have to go to leave, sorry. >_>

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE not as vocalized, no.

And yeah, gotta run, burning daylight.

Martin Sojka

@LessPop_MoreFizz In other words, jerk. Why don't they say so? :)

FAE

@GnomeSlice I think it's disingenuous to say that they don't work out very often. There are plenty of mono relationships that don't work out either (look at the US divorce rate). It all depends on the people involved and the strength of their communication.

GnomeSlice

@FAE This is certainly true.

badp

14:17

There are some moments in games where you just have to stop and pause and think and wonder. "Why am I doing this again?"

Martin Sojka

@badp Are you breeding mermaids for slaughter again?

badp

This moment is one of them.

FAE

@GnomeSlice And as LessPop said, open relationships are merely a subset. The difference between those and poly are that in general, open relationships are often defined more around physical intimacy with other people than emotional/romantic intimacy.

GnomeSlice

Today's deal on IndieGameStand is The Journey Down: Chapter 1, a fantastic point-and-click adventure game.

@FAE I'm not really familiar with poly relationships, hence my confusion. Thanks for explaining though. =]

FAE

@GnomeSlice No problem. If you have any other questions or need more clarification, feel free to ping me, I'm pretty open about this stuff.

pixel

14:20

mmm

GnomeSlice

@FAE I appreciate it, but don't worry about it, I'm not super-concerned about learning a lot about it anyway.

pixel

30mbit down, 5mbit up

while downloading 8 torrents

GnomeSlice

Also, can I borrow 36 cents from someone through paypal? :P

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice Still going on with that, are you? :P

Also, good morning to all.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert indiegamestand.com

I've been wanting to get this for a while now, but it's been like $25

FAE

14:22

@GnomeSlice Well, educating oneself on things one may be ignorant about is almost never a bad thing. It helps one avoid making inaccurate assumptions about stuff and possibly hurting/offending people.

GnomeSlice

@FAE Oh, I agree, I didn't actually mean it quite the way it came out.

If I have any questions I'll be sure to ask. =] But it's not a priority for me right now.

fbueckert

@FAE This could apply to life in general. Though that does not stop people from doing so anyways.

FAE

@GnomeSlice Understandable.

@fbueckert Indeed.

GnomeSlice

Oct 30 at 16:26, by GnomeSlice

Fluttershy

This was certainly an interest backlog to read. <_<

pixel

14:25

@GnomeSlice thats what my old internet connection looks like

GnomeSlice

@pixel Lol

fbueckert

It looks like winter starts in earnest this weekend.

Fluttershy

Interesting^

GnomeSlice

I timed out of the speedtest a few times, too.

FAE

GnomeSlice

14:25

@Fluttershy You can edit it, y'know.

pixel

I am loving this lack of delay on typing

FAE

Chocolate chip cookie dough cheesecake~

GnomeSlice

> Pay at least $10 to create a 3 game bundle and receive The Journey Down: Chapter One, our previous game, Gimbal, and our next Mystery Game.

!!!

pixel

@FAE sounds like doubling my weight overnight

GnomeSlice

Although, you could get the three of them for much cheaper than that.

OrigamiRobot

14:26

The problem is constructive means useful. So if we have a close reason essentially called "Not Useful", how can we expect people to not cast their votes accordingly? — OrigamiRobot 13 mins ago

GnomeSlice

The minimum for any of these games is $0.25

Which is not bad at all.

FAE

@pixel But so worth it.

pixel

@FAE fine ok just a tiny slice

FAE

@Fluttershy Are there any Cheesecake Factories around where you live?

pixel

I'll do another one once my torrents finish

GnomeSlice

14:28

@pixel Lol, yours says "faster than 82%" of your country, mine is "slower than 75%" of mine.

It kept timing out too. Like, it was too slow to speedtest.

Well, that's a lie, it only timed out once.

Fluttershy

@FAE I... think so? I'll check. You wanting to go to one?

pixel

yeah I've seen timeouts before on my old connection

FAE

@Fluttershy See aforementioned chocolate chip cookie dough cheesecake. >_>

There aren't any by my parents and I don't think by Ser's either, so I'm hoping there is one near you.

pixel

I'm serious, that cheesecake probably puts calories into the air around it

Fluttershy

@FAE Ah... <_< Noted. I'll to some poking around.

pixel

14:29

simply breathing in is enough to exceeed your daily amount

Fluttershy

Also, @GnomeSlice: Can't edit from the mobile app, yo.

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy The mobile site? Yes you can.

...Is there an app?

badp

"Fires as fast as you can pull the trigger" "Magazine size: 1"

2

:|

FAE

@pixel I don't think it's as bad as the Snickers pie that they serve at an Italian place by a friend of mine in the US.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Oh... Hey... You can. Well, that's well hidden.

FAE

14:30

@badp Haha, what game?

GnomeSlice

@badp You only get one shot, but it's fast!

2

badp

@FAE Borderlands 2

FAE

Ah, haven't played that yet.

pixel

@FAE a pie made from snickers?

..

Fluttershy

@FAE we shoooooould!

Wipqozn

14:31

@GnomeSlice That's what She said!

FAE

@pixel It's not literally that, but it's... really rich. Let me see if they have a website.

Fluttershy

Oh! >_> Truck showed up. Back to work. See ya, Bridge! Thanks for the enlightening discussion!

pixel

hf

Fluttershy

False alarm! Was just a tractor... <_<

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Today's Least I Could Do is relevant to this statement.

GnomeSlice

14:33

Oh, huh, if you pay more than the average of $1.37 you get an artbook .pdf too... Hm....

There's... a zombie MMO game now?

WarZ?

Lolololol

Well, anybody want a two-day free trial of it?

I can't play MMOs

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Of what? WarZ?

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Yes.

FAE

Fluttershy

@FAE There is a Cheesecake Factory near me!

FAE

I think that's kinda like the one they have. Reeeeeeally rich.

Wipqozn

14:34

@GnomeSlice I think I'll take you up on that offer. How'd you get your hands on it?

FAE

@Fluttershy Then we are totally going. >_>

pixel

@FAE I think I'm gaining weight just looking at it

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn IGN Prime

Fluttershy

@FAE This is acceptable to me. =3

SaintWacko

I found an incredible shotgun that does 17 x 105 damage, has a magazine size of 13, and takes 4 ammo per shot

GnomeSlice

14:35

@Wipqozn Download the game here and I can get the key to you... somehow.

SaintWacko

Oh, and it procs lightning

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Go on facebook for a second or two.

Nevermind, I just messaged the key to you.

Tim Stone

@FAE You're welcome to come visit the Cheesecake Factory nearby me as well, since that'll give me an excuse to go eat all their delicious food >_>

GnomeSlice

FAE

@TimStone I've never been to one!

Tim Stone

14:37

@FAE ... D:

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn There's the directions.

FAE

@TimStone There isn't one close to where my parents live, so yeah, never been.

Fluttershy

@FAE Now I'm really looking forward to taking you to one. <_<

Tim Stone

@FAE That makes me sad for you :(

While I still maintain that their portions are irresponsibly large, they have some pretty epic dishes.

Also, cheesecake.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Great, thanks.

Fluttershy

14:39

@TimStone You know nothing of large portions until you eat at Lambert's Cafe in my hometown.

Their chef salad is a foot in diameter and damn near 6" tall.

Tim Stone

O_o

Fluttershy

And they throw rolls at your face!

GnomeSlice

Also, would anyone like a free trial of RIFT?

FAE

@Fluttershy Me tooooooo.

Tim Stone

@Fluttershy I feel like this should be a bad thing, but at the same time it's like food is being delivered directly into my open mouth...so in the name of efficiency, I approve.

FAE

14:41

@TimStone It's one of those restaurant chains I'm aware of but have never been to, like Sonic's or A&W or whatnot.

Tim Stone

Oh, I think there's an A&W in the mall that the Cheesecake Factory is in actually.

GnomeSlice

Anyone?

Tim Stone

But I've never been to a Sonic either, because I'm too lazy to go find one.

FAE

There's another chain that a bunch of my friends talk about that I've never been to that, iirc, is mostly out in the west, but I can't remember the name...

Fluttershy

Also, @GnomeSlice and @MartinSojka, re:the poly discussion: As a monogamous person in a relationship with a polyamorous partner, I can safely say that, while it can be difficult at times, it is in no way less fulfilling. From my experience, at least. Communication is the key, just like any other relationship.

@TimStone It can be fun! The rolls are usually fresh out of the oven, too. It's fun trying to catch them, but also scary because, well... You could burn yourself. <_<

pixel

14:44

yep, going to need bigger hard disks

probably time for another 2tb

GnomeSlice

Anybody want the RIFT trial?

Tim Stone

@Fluttershy ...This is a good point. >_>

@GnomeSlice I'm good, but thanks for the offer.

And now, off to work.

Fluttershy

@TimStone they also walk around with all you can eat servings of macaroni and tomatoes, okra, and other stuff. <_<

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy Who are you in a poly relationship with?

fbueckert

-1

Q: What are good world of tanks farming tanks?

What is your favorite non premium farming tank in wot? provide only one tank per answer, please. reason: everyone can vote up, good tanks.

world-of-tanks

Textbook close on that one.

GnomeSlice

14:51

Huh, the Linux payments are more than the Mac payments so far.

That's interesting.

FAE

@Wipqozn raises hand

SaintWacko

Argh! What kind of webcomic only has navigation buttons at the top of the comic?

Wipqozn

@FAE So you guys are being open about it now.

@Fluttershy wasn't on steam, and I didn't want to go "ARE YOU AND @FAE ARE BEING OPEN ABOUT YOUR RELATIONSHIP ON THE BRIDGE NOW!?!?!?!??!OENEONE1111ONEOEN!???" only to turn out you weren't.

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn You probably could've just asked her... <_<

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy That's just silly.

Fluttershy

14:54

Uh huh...

GnomeSlice

If anyone wants a free trial of RIFT, here is a trial key you can use: RLF9-2JLC-TCTX-RZQX-D9NG. Instructions are here.

Fluttershy

Anyway, truck for real this time! Duty calls!

GnomeSlice

First come first serve.

Lazers

0

Q: How to deal with enemies with full-body shields?

It turns out that in Borderlands 2 some enemies have shields. Some shields have minions on it, some have spikes, most are impervious to all damage and bad news in general. Sometimes those enemies will open themselves up to damage, but I can't figure out how to do so reliably and I'd rather not sp...

borderlands-2

0

Q: What are the demerits of pushing early in League of Legends?

I have started playing League of Legends recently, and a lot of guides advocate against pushing a lane early by auto-attacking. This seems counter-intuitive to me, as a beginner. So, why should one hold off from pushing early, even when playing against a weaker opponent?

league-of-legends

GnomeSlice

Why is the filesize for Linux so much larger??

SaintWacko

15:04

@GnomeSlice It may have to include libraries that are already present in Windows and Mac

Martin Sojka

Very likely it's statically linked to the needed libraries and/or has the needed version of the libraries included in the installation.

That's what you get for bypassing the official packaging system of a distribution.

pixel

15:24

I feel like downloading every game I own on Steam

just so I can see pretty numbers

Martin Sojka

Here's a pretty number. :)

Wipqozn

1

Q: Why can't I import my Mass Effect 2 save?

I'm trying to import my savegame of Mass Effect 2 to Mass Effect 3. I put it in the correct folder and the game finds it normally, but I can't select it. I pick Michael Shepard (my character) and it shows the game date it was played, but I can't select it. I keep pressing the select button but no...

mass-effect-3

So, the OP has abandoned his question and hasn't been on the site since he asked it.

considering this is technical support, and it's completely useless now, I suggest we delete it.

If anyone has the same problem it would be much more effective for them to just ask their own question.

user15026

@MartinSojka Oooh that is a pretty number. easily amused

fbueckert

15:40

@Wipqozn VTC'd as NARQ.

user15026

@wipqozn also vtc'd

fbueckert

As a sidenote, that's how the vast majority of technical questions are going to get closed.

user15026

What do you mean?

fbueckert

New user present vague, simplistic, "This doesn't work! Fix it!" question. We ask for more details, user does not respond because we didn't fix it instantly, and we close it as NARQ because we don't have enough info to resolve the issue.

Users rarely want to involve themselves in fixing problems; they just want it fixed.

Martin Sojka

Sounds like a solid plan. Let's do it this way.

user15026

15:45

Aye, that is very true.

user15026

Brb, feeding cat so he stops biting my toes.

fbueckert

I'd recommend we be a lot more proactive on closing vague technical issues questions until all details have been provided.

That way, we don't get, "Well, maybe X is the problem. Have you tried that?" answers.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert This is awesome

Martin Sojka

Close and note that it'll be reopened when it's a good question, pointing out that closing a question doesn't mean it's not the end of it yet? Sounds fine.

pixel

so tired... I will rest for just a moment

fbueckert

15:49

I'd say all questions with technical-issues should be closed the instant they're asked, and require reopen votes to answer, but then no one would ever use the tag.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert What do you have against that tag anyway

If I have a problem with my xbox, I'm going to ask in a gaming community.

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice The vast majority of the problems are vague and incomplete?

People use it as an excuse to stop thinking and go, "Fix my problem! Now!"

New users, especially, don't follow the golden rule of, "Do your homework", and expect us to resolve it based on as little details as they can be bothered to provide?

Pick one. Pick all.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert Just because some people do that doesn't mean that questions about technical issues are, by definition, terrible.

Martin Sojka

@fbueckert Nah, only the bad ones which don't get any answers in a day or two.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice no, the fact that technical issues require discussion makes them terrible

GnomeSlice

15:53

@OrigamiRobot They don't always, but I see your point I guess. How is that different from questions about game saves then?

47

Q: What happened to my face?

I bought Dragon Age: Origins -- Ultimate Edition, and installed it on my computer. Registered the game, registered the DLC it comes with, and go to create a new character. Male humans apparently lack a model at all (they are just floating hair and a set of mysteriously floating clothes), and wh...

dragon-age-origins

Or that?

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice By the time they don't require discussion, they are Too Localized.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Too bad you can't just use Armory info to fill it out.

@OrigamiRobot Although, once in a blue moon, it may help others that run into the same problem.

@GnomeSlice That looks like a technical issue if ever I saw one.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert I call once in a blue moon too localized

GnomeSlice

Why does everyone complain about Skyrim's bugs being a result of it being ported.

fbueckert

Very well documented, and that's an awesome thing.

GnomeSlice

15:56

It's probably buggy because it's a massive and ambitious game.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Yea, but once you get it filled out, it's insanely useful.

GnomeSlice

FUEL was built for consoles, and it's full of hilarious bugs.

But it's also the largest (area-wise) game ever made, so what do you expect.

fbueckert

@GnomeSlice We just had the consolitis discussion yesterday.

@OrigamiRobot I'll have to do so later today, then.

GnomeSlice

@fbueckert I just thought of something new to add to it, clearly.

Martin Sojka

@GnomeSlice ... and because Bethesda is too lazy to take the bug fixes the community provides them for free and even begs them to use them.

GnomeSlice

15:58

Skyrim on consoles is just as buggy, I'm sure.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Oh, speaking of D3, a friend and I are going to be doing some uber runs tomorrow morning, I think. Feel like joining?

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert I tried at MP3 and got rolled.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot We were thinking of starting at MP2.

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