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@Yuuki 3/9 is generally not recommended because you get an additional feat at class level 4, and depending on the class you play that feat can be important
 
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08:29
Payday 3 beta is good
 
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12:44
@Nzall well yes, but that all depends on what the level 3 feature is. generally it's not worth it because most classes don't have a very exciting level 3
@Yuuki Actually, for most classes level 3 is when you unlock your subclass feature
there are 3 to choose from, and I think that's where your confusion stems from: the game doesn't explain clearly you can select another one, and for Warlocks it defaults to pact of the blade
but there are 2 other subclasses you can choose that give different bonuses
yeah, i debated tome but i don't really need more cantrips
honestly, now i'm wondering whether the warlock dip is even worth it, i could just pick up magic initiate: warlock to get eldritch blast
also, magicals tend to be less feat-starved than martials
especially since they got rid of metamagic feats between 3.5e -> 5e
13:10
It's kinda weird but warlock's subclass feature is actually the Patron. Pact type may come at level 3, but it's far less impactful.
If you look through published content, new Warlock subclasses are usually new Patrons not pacts.
I think they've only ever published one other pact: Talisman.
14:01
@Yuuki But then you couldn't get the eldritch invocations
At 2nd level, I think just picked free Mage Armor and +CHA to Eldritch Blast damage.
the thing is, invocations require 2 levels of investment as opposed to stay full bard with magic initiate
need to check the bard 12 features
eh, just an ASI
i suppose i could keep 2 warlock levels and go Warlock 2/Bard 10
that way, i keep magical secrets
though i hear they added restrictions on magical secrets so it's not as good as tabletop
little annoyed that college of lore bakes in the three proficiencies rather than giving you a choice of three. i already got arcana proficiency from sage background
14:45
It's a bit dodgy that they don't allow you to respec backgrounds. From a build perspective they definitely should
I would love to be able to respec my background somehow
15:11
i would just like that if you already have a proficiency that any feature would grant you, you'd be able to select a different one
that's how tabletop does it, that's how 5e does it, and it's worked out pretty well so far
16:09
Hooray I thought of a question to let me make the tag. Slash me double checks what we've ruled on the topic of "betas that used to be open but are not currently open"
(I'm like 80% sure this is allowed)
mmm, yep, +28/-1 vs +2/-9 to allow questions post-beta but pre-release
It's legal folks
I should checkup my meta, but if i remember right; if a game has ever been publicly available, questions are OK; hell, even if its a closed beta I'd say it would be
hmm, my party is level 6 but it feels like they're pretty powerful right now. Or maybe the most recent encounters weren't that difficult. Also found a really powerful legendary mace just now
The line to me is if someone that is unrelated to the dev team can play it legally, then, well, fair game
@Fredy31 ye closed beta is just, it can't be like an internal or press beta
Yeah true.
16:19
which the second one will be NDA city
first one too
not sure how high AC should usually go at this point, but it feels kinda high with everyone except my mage at 18 or 20 AC. Almost didn't get hit at all in the last encounter
Would guess I should twist my statement in a more 'If you dont need a particular accreditation to have played the game, then its fair game
Yeah they let me play it but that might be due to my special accreditation of being a cool guy
so it might be illegal actually
16:37
So do you have that on your Business card? Unionhawk: Mod of Arqade and Cool Guy
16:54
Not yet
17:18
Wasn't exactly sure where Act I ended, but now I actually got the achievement for leaving Act I. So it took me 30h playtime to finish Act I, and I didn't try to be extremely thorough even
@MadScientist that's really good actually. 5e works off bounded accuracy so 18-20 is always going to be good
it's not going to be like pathfinder where you might find yourself with +30 to attack and 40 AC by the end of the game
maybe i should backtrack though, i just finished act 1 last night and i think i'm like most of the way to level 6
I started as a cleric, and then realized I always play clerics and restarted as a warlock
Having a lot of fun
Not very far in
>! test
Nope
Can I spoiler here?
I don't think so
ROT13 is probably the easiest way
Good idea
@Yuuki Did you finish the additional areas in Act 1?
or only the main map?
17:26
Should I pick up BG3?
define "addtional areas". although i'm pretty sure i missed some
i think i can backtrack
@SaintWacko you can use spoiler text on discord if you would rather continue the conversation there
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@MBraedley It's really fun
There's a smaller one you get to crossing a bridge in the main Act I map. And a larger two-part area you can e.g. get to from the Goblin camp
I know I don't want any spoilers. I'm going in completely blind
18:21
instead of spoilers, how about blind speculation?
so i had karlach take tavern brawler so i could improve thrown weapons as a ranged option and i'm really liking it
 
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19:33
lol i've got a client that contacts me about someone that STOLE HER IDENTITY.

Looking at what she's telling me... its just her facebook that got hacked
20:11
Looking for a recommendation, wondering whether anyone can help me.

Looking for a beginner-friendly, PG-rated, browser-based "escape room"-type game to play cooperatively with some coworkers. Any ideas?
@BeeePollen cooperatively as in you all play the game at the same time and try to solve it?
Because there are a couple of games like that, but you're usually required to install them
@Nzall yeah, you got it. That makes sense about installing. Just trying to do on a work machine ;)
How many players are you aiming for?
Probably like 15 but most disengaged at any given moment :)
oof
15 players is a big ask for anything that isn't a shooter
Especially if you want to do something escape room style
20:20
yeah true. I was thinking that might not be such an issue if it's cooperative
or maybe we could split into a few groups
Something that might be an option is Minecraft. You can host a server on your local network, and it's a game that really allows drop in drop out gameplay
problem is that 99% of story-based coop games expect only 2 or maybe 3 players
@BeeePollen maybe Escape Simulator ? has online co-op. recommended size is 2-3 people per group, but can have more
ahh good ideas @Nzall @Dragonrage
minecraft can be fun too. i used to setup adventures in minecraft on a server i was admin for. would build a giant maze with obstacles and stuff. i usually scaled it for 1-2 people, but could be done for larger groups or have people compete for times
20:55
@BeeePollen Not escape room, but worth noting as a decent party game for bigger groups, Jackbox games. One instance of the game that everyone can see, and each player goes to a URL (usually on a mobile but any browser works).
mmm good call, one person with switch is fine
also, there might be some games that are playable through Geforce Now or Xbox Game Pass Ultimate, though that might get expensive fast
@BeeePollen for jackbox games, its not really switching, its more of one person needs to have a copy and then they can host a lobby for up to 8-10 players
can do similar things with some other steam games, though usually limited at 4. like overcooked can have 3 people play with the host without needing to own the game. just need to have a controller and be friend on steam
21:28
@Dragonrage i was going to suggest that but they did mention they wanted something browser-based
21:55
is reddit down for anyone else?
working for me
hmm. weird. anytime i try to access it from mobile it asks me if i want to download something, and from my pc it just gives me a blank screen on load
gross
sorry
22:30
i think i'm going to respec gale. with my MC taking more of support role, i need more blasty-blasty in the actual combat sections of the game

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