The Bridge

Fluttershy

00:10

@Lazers Is micro-management really one we need?

pixel

@Fluttershy burn it

along with group-selection

@MarkTrapp @Alok oh did I miss that conversation again?

Dave McClelland

One of my clanmates jokingly told another clanmate that if anyone bought him Train Simulator, he would guarantee he would play it for at least 40 hours. He never thought anyone would waste money on that game. I totally bought it for him. In the first 10 minutes, I've totally gotten $3.49 of enjoyment out of watching it

3

God bless the Steam sale

Lazers

0

Q: Is title advancement required for the first baron?

To recruit my first baron do I need to research a title advancement, or does the first one come "free"? I'm asking so I know if I need to build a moonglow tower in my first city or not.

lord-of-ultima

RedRiderX

This is crazy: Physical assault by McDonald's for wearing Digital Eye Glass

Has anyone else heard about this story?

UQAllulloo

00:28

@RedRiderX Some guy with that name commented about it some on reddit too and made an AMA, but didn't answer anything in it.

RedRiderX

@UQAllulloo AMA?

UQAllulloo

@RedRiderX Basically a Q&A session thing.

Ask Me Anything

RedRiderX

@UQAllulloo Oh.

UQAllulloo

I'm guessing that they thought he was from another restraunt trying to photograph their menu, but their response does seem really extreme.

RedRiderX

It's just such a bizarre story that makes me even more untrusting of the French.

user2334

00:34

Only one side of the story, half of which is an advertisement for the guy's invention. Similar thing happened last year, McDonald's responded, saying the woman exaggerated, was combative, and kept asking for money

user2334

If it's created a reddit witch hunt, it's probably only 15% of the truth

user2334

And I don't know why you'd blame the French for something that allegedly happened at one single establishment

RedRiderX

@MarkTrapp It was a jokingly said statement, no offense to the French was truly intended. I respect them as the strategic center of the world.

user2334

Oh okay. The reddit thread for the thing was full of people saying it's because the people were French that this happened, which is totally uncalled for. If anything, they would've surrendered when the guy started taking pictures with his headpiece thing.

user2334

(I kid, please don't hate me anyone who's French!)

Fluttershy

00:49

@MarkTrapp I lol'd.

GnomeSlicE

@UQAllulloo The McDonald's menu isn't exactly a secret.

StrixVaria

Stupid F.E.A.R.

UQAllulloo

@GnomeSlicE Prices and stuff varies by location though.

StrixVaria

I can't see the text in any of the in-game menus.

user2334

The story from 2011 had McDonald's saying that they had no prohibition on taking photographs in their establishments

Lazers

00:54

0

Q: Where do players get these 'trophy' items

I look through some player profiles on this forum and just flabbergasted by where they find these items whilst playing. I understand how MF% gear works and drop rates but is there a better place to kill elites to get a those level 63 items or to get a higher drop rate? Act 1, 2, 3, 4 Inferno? ht...

diablo-3

RedRiderX

Well, that's sad: R.I.P. Donald J. Sobol, Encyclopedia Brown Author.

I read those books as a kid.

user15026

Oh man I loved those books. I read them over and over and over

Alok

@RedRiderX There's a wikipedia article on him from 8 Apr 2011, so either this is a well planned hoax or actually happened to some extent. That said, i'm waiting for the Google glass parody >_>

UQAllulloo

2

RedRiderX

@AshleyNunn Me, too. I always tried to forget the ending so I could figure out the logic of the answer.

@Alok Well I heard about it through this MAKE blog article, so I had thought it was a fairly new story.

But, after further examination, the story does seem a little, strange.

UQAllulloo

01:07

Here's a higher-quality version if someone else wants to use it as a background.

user15026

@RedRiderX this :D

user15026

@UQAllulloo It is now my laptop background

RedRiderX

Ack! DuckDuckGo died!

Oh, it's back.

Only down for a couple of minutes.

Well, that was an over-reaction.

user15026

@DaveMcClelland Oh man. 40 hours is a LONG time.

RedRiderX

@AshleyNunn I see TTR has finished downloading!

Fluttershy

01:19

@DaveMcClelland Is he LiveStreaming it somewhere? Or are you just watching him in person?

Also, if there are any games anyone would like to see streamed (sans-my voiceover), let me know! I'm gonna start getting some use out of my Twitch.tv channel.

user15026

01:37

@RedRiderX Creeper. ;) It is SO much fun. I lose pretty much always but I keep playing so whatever

RedRiderX

@AshleyNunn Now you make me wish I bought it!

user15026

@RedRiderX you should. then we could play together, if you wanted

RedRiderX

@AshleyNunn Hmmm, I know how dangerous spending money on the Steam Summer Sale can be... I must think on this. Nite

user15026

@RedRiderX grins

Dave McClelland

01:55

@Fluttershy He had been livestreaming. He rage quit because of how long it took to load. Next time he plays, I'll share the link if people are interested

@Fluttershy I'm always a fan of watching people play amnesia, but voice-overs are crucial

@AshleyNunn I know, I made out on the deal

TRAINZZZZ

user15026

@DaveMcClelland Please do

user15026

@DaveMcClelland Like a bandit, for sure :D

Dave McClelland

3

I should obscure my email address, but screw it

user15026

@DaveMcClelland Hahaha that is the best thing ever

Fredy31

subscribes that email adress to all newsletter possible. Mostly porn ones.

Dave McClelland

01:59

@Fredy31 please do

Fredy31

You're one of those "never subscribed to enough porn sites" kind of guy, @DaveMcClelland?

Dave McClelland

@Fredy31 Who needs subscribed when I have bookmarks?

Raven Dreamer

@DaveMcClelland To be fair, your email address is quite hard. It's all of 2 characters different from your SO name

Dave McClelland

truth

he's streaming now

livestream.com/stnoclan

you guys should hop on our mumble server for full audio-rage

mumble.stnoclan.com port [default] pw:stno

Raven Dreamer

It's... not letting me put in a password? I suck at mumbles :(

Dave McClelland

02:08

@RavenDreamer shit, i don't know... add it as a favorite?

Raven Dreamer

'Tis

It's "Label", "Address", "Port", and "Username"

Dave McClelland

@RavenDreamer you should be able to add it on the screen where you put favorites

where you add favorites, rather

that was your username, noob

Raven Dreamer

Can Mumble names not have spaces?

lol

agent86

@EBongo, evenin'

Alok

@RedRiderX Oh story seems new; I meant that if it was a hoax, I'd expect a lot of made-up stuff about the 'inventor of AR glasses' to fake out people. But as the wikipedia article has been around, it is less likely to be a hoax.

LessPop_MoreFizz

02:30

Something something stairs something something

Lazers

0

Q: High Magic Find Act I or no Magic Find Act III / IV?

The title pretty much sums it up. A friend and I have gear to survive on act 3 / 4, but have high Magic Find gear that only works in act 1 (and barely works in act 2), we were just wondering what would be better to get better drops. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

diablo-3

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz Hullo to you.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RavenDreamer This is not the correct response.

Raven Dreamer

02:45

"I warned you about the stairs, bro. I warned you!"

user2334

Something something something dark side

GnomeSlicE

The Void is amazing.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RavenDreamer Negative.

@GnomeSlicE Yes. Yes it is.

Fluttershy

I own The Void... How is this possible? I did not buy it...

GnomeSlicE

@Fluttershy Indieroyale.

It's fucking incredible, I just played it for like four hours straight.

Fluttershy

02:52

@GnomeSlicE What else came with it?

GnomeSlicE

@Fluttershy Uh. Some stuff.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlicE That doesn't help at all...

GnomeSlicE

@Fluttershy I'm trying to find out.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GnomeSlicE Once you finish, track down Pathologic as well

GnomeSlicE

@Fluttershy The Ship, Dead Pixels, 1000 Amps

And Airmech, Lasercat and Ichi

Fluttershy

02:56

@GnomeSlicE Ah, gotcha. That's how I got it.

Lazers

0

Q: Blinding Flash - how long does the missed attacks from elites last?

The damage reduction this skill has (30% chance to miss from elite) - is that only for the 3 seconds or does it last until the monster or you die (like when you die they reset hp and probably any curses) And please confirm - elites includes champions (blue packs) and unique (yellow)... not inclu...

diablo-3 diablo-3-monk

EBongo

3

Q: What time are XBLA games released?

EST/PST? Are they released at the same official time each Wednesday, or does it vary? If it does, what time are they generally released? Looking for a definitive source.

xbox-live-arcade

Request mod protection of "me toos" on this question

GnomeSlicE

@Fluttershy There is a lot of nudity in the game though, just so you know.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlicE Eh. That stuff doesn't bother me.

GnomeSlicE

@Fluttershy Me neither, just letting you know.

Fluttershy

03:04

@GnomeSlicE Thanks for the heads up.

GnomeSlicE

One of the sisters

Also, googling the game I came across a movie of the same name.

...Was the spelling of 'Hole' intentional?

@LessPop_MoreFizz Is this still for sale anywhere?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GnomeSlicE Doubt it. :/

GnomeSlicE

Crap.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Huh, what do you know, the studio is also behind Cargo: A quest for gravity.

Which I bought on gamersgate last year on a whim.

It was confusing as hell.

Fluttershy

03:22

@LessPop_MoreFizz 20k tools gives you access to protecting questions? <_< Now I really wanna hit 20k...

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Fluttershy 15k iirc

n.b. I am usually wrong when I make assertions like this

Fluttershy

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh hey... You're right.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Well then.

That's a surprise

Fluttershy

lol

user2334

At 20k the protect button becomes rainbow-colored

Fluttershy

03:30

@MarkTrapp My favorite.

user15026

It would only be awesome if there were unicorns.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Of all the depressing songs to have stuck in my head, why did it have to be Cubs in Five?

Lazers

04:03

0

Q: Why did the game end after I fight Albus?

After fighting Albus at the Mystery Manor, Shanoa returns to Ecclesia and is asked to cast the Dominus Glyph Union. Upon doing so, Shanoa dies and the game ends. What did I miss?

castlevania-ooe

OrigamiRobot

0

A: Dude, Where's My Horse?

This is a similar question but I didn't want to start a new thread, and I realize I'm a bit late to the game (ha) but here goes: I purchased a horse, sadly I don't remember where. I got off the horse to fight and left the horse a bit aways because he seems to get in trouble and die more often t...

I am too sleepy to leave a comment here.

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot Do you know if the question she asks is a duplicate?

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy shrug/snore

Fluttershy

04:20

@OrigamiRobot Check my comment and make sure it is acceptable.

And if you post that damn Lemongrab Unacceptable, I'm gonna hurt you...

OrigamiRobot

►

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot I hate you so much sometimes...

NiQAlas T

Dan Deacon - Call Me Maybe Acapella 147 Times Exponentially Layered

OrigamiRobot

user15026

04:39

@origamirobot do you have a BMO related thing for everything? ;l

user15026

:)

Fluttershy

LessPop_MoreFizz

04:54

Bane Capital.

badp

05:37

@DaveMcClelland That is the very definition of a troll :P

badp

06:24

►

Lazers

07:15

0

Q: What is a server mod?

1.I know what a game mod is. But what is a server mod? Do clients need to install the server mod to get the features of that server mod? Also, if I have a mod for a game installed on my computer, and I play the multiplayer version of that game, will I be able to enjoy that mod's features if the ...

mods

Lazers

07:46

1

Q: Is the engineer the closest class to the Shaman?

Q:I always loved shaman classes, was a shaman in WoW, sad to say no Shaman class in GW2 but is the engineer the closest class like it?

guild-wars-2

0

Q: Calculating dps - damage of abilities

How is the damage on abilities calculated? Is there a ressource that shows the fromulas for all the abilities ingame? Is there a good way to calculate the dps of a specific deck? I like to find the best(most dps) deck for my current weapons, so i would like to do some theoriecrafting instead ...

the-secret-world

Alok

08:12

gaming.stackexchange.com/a/77366/25150 gold spam post

Yi Jiang

08:24

@Alok The content looks original, and might actually be useful. I sliced out the spam bit.

Alok

@YiJiang I saw the content and wasn't sure whether to still flag as spam or not - the 2 Diablo 3 spammers I saw earlier also used the same trick, trying to have plausible text with a url hidden in there. Idk about GW2 so I haven't actually checked that answer

Yi Jiang

@Alok I did a cursory plagiarism check using Google.

pixel

the answer basically repeats what the answer before says

Yi Jiang

And what about all the people who won't be able to join the community because they're terrible at making helpful and constructive co-- ... oh.

Still feels like this ^

Alok

@YiJiang I also thought I'd read somewhere in meta that spam shouldn't be edited out of posts; though iirc that was so mods can check it easily - can't find it now however

Yi Jiang

08:30

@Alok No, mods should check the history and cross check against the time the post was flagged

The only thing they might not be able to see AFAIK is stuff added during the 5 min period after the post was posted

pixel

@Alok I saw/heard something similar in relation to abusive posts "Don't edit out the abuse, just downvote"

Yi Jiang

If the post is salvageable, sure. But I think you should at least try if there is actual content in there

That said, you can always downvote that answer for repetition

pixel

Sudden influx of sensible TSW questions

sounds like a victory

Yi Jiang

Hmmm, what did you do?

Mad Scientist

@YiJiang I assume that spam posts stole their content anyway, I see no need to investigate this on the off-chance that someone posted useful content along with spam

Yi Jiang

08:35

@MadScientist Usually that's the case, but it might actually be original in this case. That said, the post doesn't add much which hasn't already been said

Original in that it's not a direct copy and paste

Mad Scientist

@Alok Editing the spam out means the later users have to check the revision history before flagging, which is rather annoying

Lazers

08:49

1

Q: Clarification on Damage over Time (DoT) effects

I need some clarification on how damage over time (DoT) effects work in the Secret World; Can a tick from a DoT perform a crit? Does a tick from a DoT count as a hit? I mostly want to know this because I ask myself: Can a DoT proc passives? (e.g. on hit, on crit or on hit on a afflicted/hin...

the-secret-world

Alok

@MadScientist Tell that to @YiJiang not me, I didn't edit anything? Rather I'm wondering if its a strike against me when the spam flag gets declined :/

pixel

you get a strike against you if one of your flags is rejected?

badp

Rejected flags pretty much don't count for anything

Alok

@pixel meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/1849/…. I'm just reading up on this now, came across a meta question where the user was complaining about a declined flag.

badp

they used to reduce the weight of your flags slightly (which only affected the display order of flags: purely cosmetic), but even then people started sweating rejected flags way too much and this has been (visibly?) removed.

Alok

08:58

Ah that explains why I can't find the flag weight :)

badp

so don't sweat the occasional rejection. We still love you and you are exactly as special as you were before you made that flag, no more no less.

If you start spamming your flags might eventually get hellbanned but we'll probably ban you way before that happens :P

Yi Jiang

@badp Yup. The badge progress also only count helpful ones now

The problem was that when you reach the end of the flag weight curve, a single bad flag can reduce your flag weight by the equivalent of 10 helpful ones, so people were afraid to flag anything

badp

WE WILL BAN YOU SO HARD THEYLL HAVE TO MAKE UP A NEW TERM FOR IT - LIKE I DUNNO HEAVENBAN

notrly

Alok

@badp Haha considering my downvotes on meta; if I was upset about flag weights, banning etc. I would be trying my best to have zero interaction with site maintenance :p

badp

I get regularly downvoted on meta and i'm a frikkin' mod. Meta dowvotes are not somethng you should sweat either.

Mad Scientist

09:10

If nobody downvotes your meta post, it's a topic that nobody cares about ;-)

Alok

I guess the part I dislike is that people tend to downvote on meta w/o providing any reason why (I guess because it doesn't really affect the poster either) - and if I think its a valid post, its frustrating to see sudden negative score without any clue why :(

badp

been there got that. I suggest bringing it up on chat when it happens.

that's bound to bring you at least one of additional details, sympathy upvotes or many more downvotes. Useful if you still lack peer pressure.

Yi Jiang

@badp Pfft, who cares about badges on Meta? :P

Alok

Eh I figured I should just be quiet and observe meta for a while, instead of posts that get downvoted asap - last one was only because murgatroid mentioned me in chat when asking a question.

Tim Stone

@YiJiang My goal is to have the most per-site-meta Mortarboard badges evar.

Lazers

09:22

0

Q: Cannot connect to my dedicated, steam-group L4D2 server

I have successfully setup a dedicated L4D2 server on my Linux box. I can manually connect to it with connect <myip>, so I believe I have all the basics setup correctly. I'm trying to get the server to show up on the "Steam Group Servers" list so that its relatively easy to find and config...

hosting left-4-dead-2 source-engine

0

Q: Clarification on bonus hits from passives

I need some clarification on the "additional hit" effects from passives in the secret world: Can additional hits perform critical hits? Does an additional hit count as "hit"? (like an hit from an ability) Can an additional hit proc other passives (or even the passive which triggered the hit)? ...

the-secret-world

Yi Jiang

@TimStone The election chat thingys help a lot :P

Tim Stone

Yes :P

Alok

@badp Just figured out the reference; didn't know Peer Pressure was a badge till I saw it on another profile (and yes I do have that thx to meta!)

Wipqozn

10:14

@Fredy31 You are my new favourite person.

tortoise sides

Tied for highest scoring answer on Movies.SE

Lazers

0

Q: What term is used for same-screen multiplayer?

I am interested in games that allow two players to play simultaneously in front of the same screen. However, I specifically do not want the screen to be split. Examples of games that do this include Wii Tennis (co-operative or antagonistic) or Mortal Kombat (antagonistic). Is there a term to des...

multiplayer terminology local-multiplayer

pixel

@Alok I actually never asked a proper question on meta, they've all been merge requests. The one thing I've learned is that people make too many assumptions to the point where users don't even distinguish between 'merge' and 'synonym' and downvote something they didn't even comprehend properly :)

I can't believe I missed another awesome looking argument lastnight

I need to stop having a life so I can argue more on the internets

3

Lazers

10:55

0

Q: What will happen when you light up all the torches in "On the Rain-Slick Precipice of Darkness 3"?

When you enter the Altair on the third floor, the Altair maiden suggests that these torches will light up after you reach every pin to it's maximum amount. After finishing the game I noticed that except one torch every other one lights up so I've had some fights in Colosseum and all of my pins ...

on-the-rain-spod3

pixel

@Ender that precipice of darkness question already had a tag available to use in penny-arcade-3

Alok

@pixel Assumptions, and /bandwagon'ing (though certain people would ask for documented proof hehe)

pixel

@Alok oh I know, the proof is there though in every merge request I've made :)

Alok

you didn't miss much of an argument last night though; it was actually quite civil maybe because Grace Note (mod + SE employee) was there?

pixel

but this is old now, since they get sorted in the end

some quality stars came out of lastnight

"Can we just leave good, interesting, answerable questions open please, and try not to make blanket ban rules"

+1

Alok

11:01

Oh those - yeah I missed that part too :(.

I saw that right after his comment on my post (meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/a/5092/25150) which was a bit ironic lol. Though I'm grateful he atleast told me why he disagreed instead of just clicking downvote

pixel

Make your own opinion and VTC on this please

0

Q: VPN with tethering

Suppose there are two iPhones, A and B. There are two VPN services provided by two different institutions C and D, using Cisco anyconnect. Now I let A tather its Internet to B. I also VPN connect B with C. Then: I VPN conect A with D. I VPN connect A with C. The question is, what is the orde...

networking

Or yell at me

either works - it's a VPN related question asking about routing

Don't get thrown off about it being related to iPhones, since it's a routing question

Yi Jiang

@pixel Definitely off topic, but please don't suggest migrating to other sites without actually understanding what questions those sites accept

pixel

@YiJiang Super User has questions about TCP/IP

routing questions fall under that

Yi Jiang

But not smartphones

pixel

It has nothing to do with smartphones

TCP/IP is standard across all devices

Yi Jiang

11:14

Isn't it about tethering?

pixel

just because he said iPhone doesn't mean that it couldn't be interchanged with desktop PC in his particular question

@YiJiang it states on the question: "The question is, what is the order of locations which data is transmitted from the Internet to device B in the above two situations?"

= routing

Looks like it isn't just Arqade people who knee jerk based on individual words :)

Yi Jiang

I'm not entirely familiar with networking or iPhones

Alok

@pixel I flagged it as off-topic; I'm all for keeping game related questions open but I don't see any latitude for this one

@YiJiang No, he is just using iPhone for a concrete example - I just commented on the question re. that, it works if he substitutes 'device' instead of 'iPhone'

pixel

Chat is ugly on iphone

Meetings yay

Lazers

1

Q: In diablo 3, why am I disconnected for being afk in single player?

I've seen people afk for an hour in multiplayer yet God forbid I be afk for more than 5 minutes when I'm by myself. Cuz you know, there's no harm in messing up the game for other players, but if you're by yourself then you're a criminal. Seriously, the one who did this deserves to be flailed in ...

diablo-3

-1

Q: Synonym request: [vpn] to [networking]

I think vpn should be a synonym of networking - VPN questions are largely going to be off topic on Arqade so having it's own dedicated tag is a bit overkill, and VPN questions will always be networking related.

discussion tag-synonyms

Patrick Stalder

11:28

@pixel thanks for the revisions on my questions. ;)

pixel

No problems, I like secret world questions!

How are you enjoying the game?

Patrick Stalder

I like it alot. More than i expected. The skill-system is very good, i was very sceptical in the beginning. But im still asking me how the lategame will be and how dungeons/raid play out. Im maybe playing a little too much. :)

pixel

I finished the story, end game is a bit underwhelming at the moment but I heard they are adding bigger instances and raids soon and more content soon

Patrick Stalder

11:48

@pixel yes i heard they want to do monthly content updates of some sort.

pixel

Yeah and with that in mind the current end game doesn't scare me at all

Patrick Stalder

Me neighter i will have a lot to do. I will probably unlock more than two weapons so theres a lot of room for time consumption :D

What combination of weapons do you play?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@wipqozn why do you hate freedom?

My inbox, it has been spammed with links to four deleted comments that I cannot read. :(

Lazers

0

Q: Can a AI-controlled companion be ordered to take an action?

In L4D2, can companions be ordered to take actions? Me and a friend have been playing. That means 2 of our slots are human and 2 are AI-controlled. We are primarily interested in giving 2 orders: How can we order a particular companion to follow one of us while the other follows the other one ...

left-4-dead-2

pixel

I play AR but have unlocked the whole inner circle and have level 10 in fists and blood already

OrigamiRobot

12:03

@pixel Yesssssss.....Join usssssssss

LessPop_MoreFizz

@patrick FYI, the game is balanced around seemingly game breaking/absurd synergies of procs and Passives.

Because you can build some nutso feedback loops of damage.

pixel

Join? I'm waiting for you guys to catch up so I have people to play with!

Patrick Stalder

@LessPop_MoreFizz so you mean it is possible to make "oneshot" passive combos and such? That would be an absurd "balance". I just saw that you can combo multiple crit passives for example that deal bonus damage but that doesnt seem to be massivly overpowered.... as long as they dont do infinit loops....

@pixel so you play AR only? does that work out good?

pixel

Reasonably, I made it through the story quite effortlesslyand pvp ishilarious 1v1

I can stand and heal through any mechanic that doesn't one shot too

Patrick Stalder

12:19

Yes i saw that in pvp... its pretty frustrating as pistol player. i saw about 50% of my enemys playing AR and shooting me in the face :(

pixel

From miles away too, pistols feel too short range imo

Patrick Stalder

But what is disturbing me is that AR deals the same amount (or even more) damage than Pistols. But it has more range? So does funcom want to tell me that pistol is just basically inferior to AR. Isn't there any drawback?

pixel

Everything is inferior to AR when you have red mist on your action bar

Patrick Stalder

Yes the damage on that skills seems a "little" bit off the balance.... I kinda feel bad for my decision to play Pistol/elemental now... :D But it seemed to make a good combination from crit passives

pixel

Stuff will get balanced, andyou can get all skills

Patrick Stalder

12:28

Yes, I hope so. Funcom seems to have some experience in MMOs (Age of Conan), so i think they will handle that.

Do you just grind pvp now? since there is little pve endgame...

LessPop_MoreFizz

Pistols are the core of the highest DPS build in the game ATM.

pixel

Yeah for black marks

LessPop_MoreFizz

Lots of Crit boosting and abilities that hit multiple times + Live Wire passive from elemental.

Patrick Stalder

@LessPop_MoreFizz is there a "the best build"?

@pixel what is the fastest way to get black marks? I just know that you get 3 per win in stonehenge and 7 for the facility capture quest in the big pvp battleground

Wipqozn

@LessPop_MoreFizz haha, sorry. I wrote up a response to your post saying I now agreed that the questions weren't a problem, but that my reason for wanting to close the questions isn't just that they can be used as an example to keep other questions opened. That I believe the questions themselves are a problem, and should have been closed, and that leaving them open is inconsistent and why it's a problem to keep them opened despite Tzenes answer.

LessPop_MoreFizz

12:34

@Patrick not really, but this is the skeleton of what people are swarming around ATM.

pixel

I just farmed facilities every 30 mins while questing

Wipqozn

I started to write up an answer discussing why I no longer had a problem with them, but in the process of writing my answer I started thinking even more about it and become more uncertain so just deleted everything and I'm thinking more about it.

It occurred to me I've been applying "overly broad" to these questions incorrectly, in part due to Tzenes answers. It's not about the volume of possible answers people can post, but about the volume of each specific answer would need to be to completely answer the question.

To be honest I keep going back and forth on how I feel about these questions. Which is why I haven't returned to my meta.

@LessPop_MoreFizz: Also, there should have only been two deleted comments from me.

Patrick Stalder

@LessPop_MoreFizz i wanted to go for something like [that] (badomens.net/… build)

but with pve in mind... but for pvp the passives shouldnt change much

Wipqozn

Although I'm currently on the side of "The questions are fine". I'm just trying to figure out in my head why these questions are fine, and other identical questions about different games aren't. A discussion with @FAE the other day about LoL has actually helped me narrow in on that actually.

As well as the recent question about games with an established meta game.

A major factor just comes down to the size of the number of possible builds you could use.

Oh, and also your point that build != build order.

There are some differences between the two which make a huge difference

I think I'll have this worked out enough in my head by the end of the day that I'll post a new answer to my question detailing why I was wrong.

Since I don't feel like any of the current answers actually address that, including @LessPop_MoreFizz. His answer just focuses on one specific part of my complaint, along with another related problem, but doesn't address in his answer why these questions would be fine even if someone asked them today.

Considering the amount of people that seem to agree with my initial suggestion based on the score of my question and the other meta post, I feel like it's something that should be stated before moving on.

Yi Jiang

12:51

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Mana

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A: Is the engineer the closest class to the Shaman?

In terms of class mechanics, possibly. They can be melee with flamethrower and tool kit etc. They can have turrets/totems that provide different utility, and they have ranged attacks with pistols/rifle etc. In terms of shamanistic background, Sylvari Elementalist would be the closest in my opini...

Wipqozn

@YiJiang You just described how nearly every Facebook games works.

Mana

This had me really confused until I checked the edit.

Wipqozn

@Mana haha, same here. And this is why editing out spam can be bad.

Yi Jiang

@Mana Yeah. Well, I'm still not sure if that was worth editing instead of just flagging to delete as spam

Wipqozn

12:53

@YiJiang I think spam posts should always be deleted. I don't care if they dress it up in an actual answer.

Ender

@Wip I agree

should i upvote it since its been edited now? lol

Wipqozn

Well, you should vote for a question based on it's current content, not it's past but... I don't know.

I think @mana should just delete the question so we don't need to think about it. Furthermore if MAna deletes it and shit gets crazy, he'll get blamed, not us.

That's what mods are here for, right? Getting them to do the dirty work so we can shove the blame off on them and call them corrupt when things go wrong?

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Mana

Well, how about this. I'll add a comment rebuking the guy for now, okay?

Wipqozn

I wonder if there was ever a meta on this before.

Yi Jiang

It sort of mostly overlaps with the other answer, but actually adds a little more. Well, it supplies the full name of the Elementalist class

Wipqozn

12:59

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Q: Adding spam to answers - flag or edit?

Sometimes I stumble upon answers which actually comes with an answer for the question - but finishes off with a small link. Like this answer (where the spam link has been edited away now). Originally I flagged the question to get moderator attention, as this post is not entirely spam. But I'm no...

discussion answers flagging spam

SO seems to follow the policy of deleting them anyways.

The question is what do we want our policy to be?

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