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FallenAngelEyes

23:00

@badp Fits for me as well, I'd say about the same number of characters as @Fabian. Seamonkey on Win 7.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Grats to @badp!

Fabian

Let's see what our not-so-benevolent-anymore-Overlords will do next ;-).

Powerlord

@Fabian We will be baked and then there will be cake.

Fabian

@Powerlord As long as there is cake, I'm fine with anything

Just don't tell me the cake is a lie

Arda Xi

@Fabian You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.

Fabian

23:06

I'm still busy with the experiments on the people who are still alive

badp

@FallenAngelEyes How about now?

I get small horizontal scrollbars but I guess I can live with them

Arda Xi

@Fabian @badp? Seriously now. That's it. I'm done reasoning with you.

Fabian

@badp I don't get any scrollbars now

FallenAngelEyes

@badp: 2 characters space, no scrolling

badp

Yeah, the font Linux decides to use is wider for some reason

Fabian

23:08

There is quite some truth about the connection between science and cake in that song

Arda Xi

I don't get OpenSTV though. I can run an election fine, but how do I input my own ballots?

badp

New Ballot File.

Arda Xi

Well, yeah, and then?

badp

Then you put in the candidates.

Arda Xi

...

And then

badp

23:11

Then votes are computerized.

Arda Xi

How?

badp

Through the Ballot File Editor

Arda Xi

Wait.. this does not work how I think it does, does it?

badp

I wonder if the order counts

First person voted Ivo, Grace and C Ross.

Last person voted Grace, Fabian and Juan.

42nd voted Grace, Juan and CRoss.

Fabian

@badp What do you mean exactly?

Arda Xi

23:14

No, but, I mean, it isn't manually inserted I hope.

Fabian

Is there an exact election record?

badp

@Fabian Dunno, I'm just looking at the output

The first row of the ballot file, the last row of the ballot file etc.

@ArdaXi I guess the file format is documented somehow, so you can make your election tools output .blt files OpenSTV can process

Grace Note

The first user certainly did not vote Ivo, Grace, and C. Ross

Unless that user managed to beat me by .23 seconds.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Did you vote for yourself?

Grace Note

No

Arda Xi

23:18

Then you're the 8th voter at earliest.

Grace Note

Seven people voted in the first .23 seconds?

Arda Xi

The eighth vote being 3 8 4 being C Ross, Fabian and Kevin Y

Grace Note

That's not my vote, then

Arda Xi

:516760 3 8 4, not 3 4 8

Fabian

@ArdaXi I just saw that

badp

23:20

@GraceNote He could've changed his mind in the meantime.

Okay I guess it's settled then, rows are randomly sorted.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Arda Xi

@badp Doubt it.

Grace Note

Well, tell you what

Tell me the "earliest" vote for Fallen Angel Eyes as first choice

Arda Xi

FallenAngelEyes, Fabian and Juan

Fabian

My vote is in the last third, and I voted pretty early

badp

#11

Grace Note

23:22

10 users? Seriously? I got beat by 10 users?

In .23 seconds?

Arda Xi

27 voted for Grace Note only.

No second or third

Grace Note

That is some phenomenal dedication, there

Arda Xi

Wait... hang on. 1. badp, 2. Arda Xi, 3. Grace Note

That makes no sense whatsoever.

Grace Note

Why would it not?

Fabian

@GraceNote The votes are probably not ordered sequentially, so we don't know that

Grace Note

23:23

@Fabian I'm very much inclined to agree with that

Arda Xi

but I can't imagine why they wouldn't be

Grace Note

I can see the vote statistics during the elections, after all.

Arda Xi

except for anonimization purposes.

Even worse. 1. Arda Xi, 2. badp, 3. Grace Note

I'm just really confused.

Grace Note

I did almost pick you, @Arda, as my 3rd vote

It was seriously between you and Juan. Don't ask me how it got to that point.

Arda Xi

You made the right choice.

Grace Note

23:26

By the way, anyone know the election statistics for the other elections that have been done so far?

Arda Xi

There are a lot of people who voted this.

Grace Note

Didn't you say there were 27?

Arda Xi

Did I? Yes, I did. I wonder where I got that number.

It's not actually that high. I don't recall typing it either.

It's really just 5.

Grace Note

9 mins ago, by Arda Xi

27 voted for Grace Note only.

Arda Xi

I know. I did say it, I just don't know why.

Grace Note

23:33

You split 5 into 3+2, kicked the +2 into a ^3.

Arda Xi

Oh wow.

I would have gone with Weird Al-inspired Freudian slip, but... sure.

Mana

For the heck of it, my votes went to Grace first, Ivo second, Juan third.

Arda Xi

so 2 1 5

You were one of three with that vote.

Mana

nod

Arda Xi

My vote is unique.

Grace Note

23:38

Was mine?

Hey, @Aardvark

Mana

@Grace your vote has a high likelihood of being unique, given you didn't vote for yourself

3

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Yes.

Aardvark

@Grace Hiya!

Arda Xi

Funny. The most popular vote is

1. Grace Note
2. -------------
3. -------------

Grace Note

Actually, it had a high likelihood of being unique on account of the person I put in 1st only getting 3 votes. Which I am disappointed.

Mana

23:39

heh

Grace Note

The most popular vote only had a count of 5?

Arda Xi

@GraceNote As far as I can tell, yes.

Oh, no.

Mana

Hm.

Arda Xi

2 6 5 has 9

Grace Note

At an embarrassing 65/118, I'd've expected a lot more matches.

Arda Xi

23:40

Grace Note, badp, Juan Manuel

Ah...

FallenAngelEyes

Is there another writeup from which people are gleaning these stats? Because when I stare at this, I'm totally not parsing what you guys are getting. o_o

Grace Note

The winning crew. How fitting

Arda Xi

That explains that.

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes I have no clue what they're drawing from

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes I'm staring at something much harder.

That's where I'm getting my data from.

Plain-text of the election-results.blt file

The first and last column are obviously irrelevant, and the others are

1"Ivo Flipse"
2"Grace Note"
3"C. Ross"
4"Kevin Y"
5"Juan Manuel"
6"badp"
7"FallenAngelEyes"
8"Fabian"
9"Arda Xi"
10"Powerlord"

I actually got 16% of votes. Interesting.

Grace Note

23:43

It actually lends credence to the user order as it is assigned by the votes.

badp

@ArdaXi 6 isn't me because I got more than 6 first choices.

Arda Xi

@badp It's in that order, according to this.

Grace Note

@badp You're 6 on that list because the 6th unique vote went to you

In accordance with that list of ballots.

Aardvark

@Grace I just wanted to say congratulations, its good to know we still have you looking over us :)

Grace Note

Thanks, @Aardvark

FallenAngelEyes

23:44

Huh, interesting.

Arda Xi

@badp Exactly. The 4th vote was the first to have you in it, so you got the number 6.

Grace Note

Actually, it was the 4th

badp

...except I have 25 first choices.

Did you post the entire shebang there?

Arda Xi

@badp No, the first entry in the database.

badp

 R|Ivo Flipse|Grace Note|C. Ross   |Kevin Y   |Juan Manue|badp      |FallenAnge
  |          |          |          |          |l         |          |lEyes
  |----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------
  |Fabian    |Arda Xi   |Powerlord |Exhausted |Surplus   |Threshold
  |          |          |          |          |          |
===============================================================================
 1|  3.000000| 65.000000|  5.000000|  0.000000| 10.000000| 25.000000|  3.000000

Arda Xi

23:46

When the system encountered your name for the first time, it had already seen (and assigned numbers to) 5 other people. Regardless of how many, or which votes they got.

badp

I'm not counting 25 leading 6's in what you posted. Is it the full shebang?

Grace Note

Oh, hey, @badp's got a point

Arda Xi

@badp Yes, it is.

Mana

Wait, Ivo only got 3 votes?

Arda Xi

It has 118 lines, does it not?

Grace Note

23:47

In fact, there are only 3 entries with a vote of "1" as the first slot

Arda Xi

Oooh

I see.

user30

@ArdaXi It doesn't look like it does

Arda Xi

I posted the whole shebang, but chat shortened it.

Grace Note

But... Ivo also got only 3 first choice anyway.

Arda Xi

pastebin.com/3ptGviAE

user30

23:51

Have we determined whether those are chronological?

user30

Because, according to my vote, they could be.

Arda Xi

They aren't, because @GraceNote is fast.

Grace Note

Not conclusively. I'm still skeptical of it because I voted for @Fallen pretty much instantly.

user30

If it were to be chronological, it would require a few other people to have changed their vote in the last minute

Powerlord

Ooh yeah, can't forget that the Double Jeopardy and Final Jeopardy parts of IBM's first Watson game are on tonight

Mana

23:59

Oh man, Jeopardy.

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