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13:00
@ickleislands I blame society.
sounds like a fair policy
both for @spugsley and @Wipqozn - I blame society as well
it's always society
but we'll still blame you in this instance ;p
@ickleislands it's actually in our FAQs. Question: "Who should I blame?" Answer: Wipqozn
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argh Dropbox is half down
@QAdp Which half?
@spugsley is that actually in the FAQs? If not it should be
13:01
@QAdley The bottom half.
@QAdley The first half
@QAdley the drop part
It's just a box atm
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Q: No Audio in Garry's Mod with Wine

JohnI've just built a new computer for myself, and having Ubuntu 12.04 on it, I decided it was time for some games, so I installed wine1.5, and loaded steam, sound works fine... Until I actually load a game, in this case, Garry's Mod, at which point, it doesn't have sound. I've tried killing pulseau...

@GamingTopicsFromOuside I'm very glad to see this was renamed :D
@ickleislands it's not but it definitely should be. Right @Wipqozn ?
13:02
@spugsley I'm fine with getting a special mention in the FAQ. It will make me special.
OOOOOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
nuke alarm!
I found an interestingly named rare last night (despite it being complete crap):
evacuate to a safe distance!
duck and cover!
"I'VE GOT THE URGE"
@TimStone Good to know.
13:07
Indeed.
35 questions with new activity -.-
stares at @QAdley
Oh, I was wondering what sort of explosion @QAdley was causing...
@TimStone All clear, you may return to your front-page, or what's left of it
I should actually go to work, so carry on.
@TimStone Oh ok. Further nukage is forth-coming
Another big nuke about to fall on
Delete vote plox:
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Q: How much game time can I expect for 10 dollar?

DementoI saw a brief discussion about game cost vs. game playing time emerge after Warba said in his Review of Q.U.B.E. that he thinks that over $10 for a game that lasts only 4 hours is a little expensive. I kind of agree with him on that but I still wonder what a player can expect nowadays to get for ...

Oak
Oak
13:14
Oh man it's SO cool we have lots of 20k-ers now
Another delete vote:
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Q: is there any website that can compare price and service of online game currency sites?

user5651Anyone tried any website would give me some advice? I heard it's legal and trustful but still hesitate.

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Q: Does Barbarians suck or is it just me?

Eddie Murphy FridlundCan somebody tell me how barbarians work because i keep dying on act 3 on nightmare and i use two mighty swords that to alot of dmg but still i die so can you guys please give me some advice on how to play a barbarian Sorry for my bad english

@TimStone this sounds like a personal problem :p
@QAdley want a hand?
I don't understand why some people up vote certain things.
13:18
@ickleislands It's ok, sorted now
still stuff tagged under the other tags
like, fuck
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Q: Diablo Acts II and IV

JimI joined a group with my friends on multiplayer and they continued to lvl and I stopped playing for a little bit and as they leveled, they got to different acts. I left off in the Act II and they where in Act IV and im way to undergeared to do Act IV and need to get back to Act II. SOMEONE HELP ...

Why are these non-questions getting up votes?
ACtually, I have an idea why. Pity up votes.
@Wipqozn Because he apologized for his low quality english skills.
@ickleislands bahaha at first I thought you were asking @TimeStone if he wanted help with his urge lololol
FOREVER SATURDAY!
13:20
@spugsley lol
hey @Oak, how's gods and kings? I'm assuming you own it :P
Oak
Oak
@agent86 I'm still undecided. I'm not especially fond of religion or espionage, to be honest. I am fond of the new units and upgrade paths they introduced - naval combat is much better now, in my opinion. Still trying the new scenarios and maps. New civilizations is always a plus, of course
@ickleislands: You should replace the entire excerpt/description with "DO NOT USE", don't just add it on the bottom.
Oak
Oak
I mean religion can be cool
It just feels like missionaries and inquisitors are a lot of micro-managing
13:22
@Wipqozn check again, I striked out the original and put do not use at the top
@Oak hmm, yeah, in Civ4 I tended to do a minimal amount of religion due to it's profit generating potential. espionage I tended to ignore.
naval combat, to me, has always been a waste in most Civ games. I tend to play landlocked just to avoid having to deal with it.
@ickleislands hm, okay. My browser must have just loaded it incorrectly. It was showing all you did was add the info at the bottom.
@Wipqozn I did in the first instance and changed it about 5 seconds later
@ickleislands Oh, okay :P
Oak
Oak
@agent86 btw I guess my beef with espionage is that I don't really know how to use it yet. My spies don't seem to do a lot and the enemies' spies always steal support from my city-states. However, the new "intrigue" system is supercool. I had a friendly civ come to me and reveal that his spy just found out a third civ is currently planning to backstab me, so I could prepare. That was awesome.
13:24
@Oak haha, awesome
@agent86 It depends a lot on the maps you play on, but naval is really useful for stopping other civs from expanding.
there was an answer here on the site about how to not piss other Civs off, and I need to try some of those tactics next time I play, since I typically just end up with everyone against me by the end
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Q: Why is my Enchantress's damage so low?

Hand-E-FoodMy Enchantress's damage seems very low. Level 23 Magic Two-Handed Mace 36.9 DPS 38-44 Damage 0.9 Attacks per second +4-8 Fire Damage Strength 50 Life 1058 Dexterity 32 Armor 56 Intelligence 162 Damage 19.32 Vitality 78 Her details state her damage sh...

England in Civ V is really good in any water-based maps, since they can just zip all over the map like nobodies business.
ok, gotta run, time to get ready for work, ttyl
Oak
Oak
13:26
@agent86 yea, that's why I asked this question, I wanted to keep getting this information from other civs, so I could in effect have more active spies
@agent86 Depending on the difficulty, there's not much you can do. They are super aggressive. It was the largest complaint people had against the AI. Apparently they've improved it in gods and kings.
@ickleislands Burned.
Don't even bother giving it a do not use excerpt.
I wonder if he'll retag that question.
I've noticed him get into one or more edit wars over people removing shitty tags from his question.
Oak
Oak
@Wipqozn I do think it's better, but not sure by how much. You do have more opportunities to do things that bring you together, though - embassies, sharing a religion, sharing a social policy, sharing intrigue.
So that helps
@Oak Well that's good.
13:31
I've added some tags, please raise your objections: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/4758/…
I found the largest problem in the base game is you'd literally do everything you could for them, and you'd turn down one request by them and then they are suddenly declaring you the next Hitler.
The one I think is most contentious:
@ickleislands Awkward, leave it for now.
Oak
Oak
@Wipqozn also, just like in vanilla relations are worse if you're close to them, in gk relations are better if you're far away
13:33
@QAdley: , , and are genre tags. They should be added to the clean-up section, not the burn me section.
Delete votes please:
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Q: Where can I find historical sales and units numbers for video game software?

James SimpsonI'm trying to create a chart showing video game software sales and units sold from hopefully the 1990s to now, but if possible even earlier. I found http://vgchartz.com that has numbers going back to the early 2000s, but their numbers aren't very comprehensive and don't go back far enough.

@Wipqozn Ok, I'm not so familiar with these. Do the edit.
@Wipqozn This sounds like Warlock. When a fellow archmage demands something, your choices are to either give in, or declare war. There's nothing in between.
@spugsley I'm just so lonely. ;_; ...and terribly late for work, meh.
@Oak Have you noticed the increases aggression is less? Touching borders is certainly a reason for increased hostility, but perhaps not to the extreme the game often made it out to be,
@QAdley Done.
Do we label questions regarding a DLC with the parent game ?
13:37
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Q: When should we use genre tags?

antony.trupeShould every question about a game include a tag that fits it into one or more genres? Should we only use genre tags for game-rec and family questions? Should we not have any genre tags at all? I removed the roguelike tag from http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/5174/how-can-i-survive-ge...

Relevant meta @QAdley ^ in case you were unaware of the policy.
@ickleislands I'm of the opinion that most DLC don't need their own tags, but it seems this is an unpopular opinion.
@Wipqozn Cheers, I wasn't sure what to do with them
ok I will just ignore it then
Oak
Oak
@Wipqozn I'm not sure. I haven't played that much yet - just one epic game and a scenario. It only came out the day beore yesterday :)
13:38
I burn though right?
when the question is tagged with the dlc name
@LessPop_MoreFizz I agree with this. In most situations I'd think DLC won't get enough questions to avoid the tag being auto-deleted every 6 months.
nvm it says yes on the post
The DLC that will is normally closer to an expansion pack to DLC.
@ickleislands wait what, and are two totally different games.
@ickleislands If you want to be helpful, do some burninating, or better yet some fixing
13:40
@Oak ah, I see. I picked it up, but I've only played it for ~ 30 minutes.
@LessPopMoreFizz my mistake, I always had it pegged as an expansion for 3
@ickleislands No, no it isn't.
New Vegas: Fallout 3 :: Vice City/San Andreas : GTA 3
anyway is empty now
Since we're going through a burnination phase, gaming.stackexchange.com/q/74533/20456 needs more close votes.
Oak
Oak
@Wipqozn oh wow your comment there is pretty convincing :)
13:43
Trivia is burned? Huzah!
@Oak hm? Which comment is this?
takes screenshot of main page
Oak
Oak
@Wipqozn but it's actually the other way around - we want to make sure people searching for "civilization" will find "civ".
But I'm guessing it will work just fine
Oh, that comment.
@TimStone terribly late for work, yet still in chat :p
13:46
oops, wrong link
@spugsley How's Act 2 treating you?
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Q: Tag Synonym: [laptop] -> [technical-issues]

QAdleylaptop seems to be pretty useless, but has some valid questions. Grouping them under technical-issues would be a better idea.

@fbueckert it's not. I'm sticking to Act 1 still. The loot's been fairly substantial and I can fight almost anything now excluding some bitchy elite combos
@spugsley Boo. We need to get you into Act 2. I need more DPS for Belial.
13:55
@fbueckert I think I just need better equipment. I have 4.8 mil but I am afraid to spend it
Did we ever reach a decision on what to do regard Minecraft-360 questions tagged with both minecraft and minecraft-360?
@spugsley ...I hate you. You know how long it takes me to farm up even 100K?
@Fluttershy Use both tags
@spugsley do you have any items below item level 61?
@QAdley Odd... Okay then.
13:56
or 60 even
@ickleislands a few, I'm sure
@spugsley you should replace those first, should be able to get a replacement for 100k or less
@ickleislands I'm not sure what properties to get...:( do I favor resists? Which ones? Or should I go for dex?
Idk
@Fluttershy It's the best solution for those few questions. Either that or just
13:59
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A: Demon Hunter Stat Priority

ickleislandsIf you refer to the other question/answer for your stat priority, I will cover the issue of survivability on Demon Hunters. The other question contains answers with a level of detail that doesn't need duplicating here. Here is a disclaimer: This is the way I do it and prefer to do it, I have he...

can I kill ?
@ickleislands Yes
@ickleislands If you start looking around the later pages of tags you'll find a great many tags for easy and quick burnination, such as , , . Only burninate if you're absolutely sure though. If in doubt ask first.
I was just nuking the ones specifically listed in the thread so I don't do anything wrong
the ones I'm mentioning are the random ones I find along the way
I don't mind, it's generating random edits as well where the questions just look awful
Oak
Oak
Guys, I really like your enthusiasm but the entire front page at the moment is edits :\
14:08
@ickleislands Ok. It would be useful to go through the tags with < 10 questions and identify those to be burninated.
Oak
Oak
Maybe it's worth spacing the efforts a little :)
@Oak Omlette, breaking eggs, etc.
@QAdley we've already established that most of my opinions fly in the face of established protocol around here ;p
Oak
Oak
Yea yea and I'm not even saying as a mod, just wondering whether it's really good doing dozens at a time
You can't burninate a tag without nukinating some front-pages.
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14:09
@Oak how else do you propose it gets done?
Better to ruin the front page for a day than for half the year
@Oak Better to nuke the front-page entirely for 5 minutes and get 100 qs done, than semi-nuke it ten times during the day?
(I can stop if you want)
Oak
Oak
I dunno... just saying
@ickleislands Identification would be a good task for now, I've done a lot of nuking today (>100), so we're ahead of quota
ok well I reached the end of all the tabs I had open so I will stop for now
is half done
14:12
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Q: Questions tagged [Minecraft] and [Minecraft-xbox]

BradCI asked this question, which is primarily focused on issues specific to the XBox 360 version of minecraft, but some of it is still of more general use to all minecraft users (map scale, map coloring scheme, etc.). I originally tagged it with both [Minecraft] and [Minecraft-xbox], but the [Minecr...

The (only) answer on the meta question disagrees @QAdley. (@Fluttershy)
Use minecraft if your question applies to the original version of Minecraft.
Use minecraft-xbox if your question applies to Minecraft: Xbox 360 Edition.
Use both tags if your question applies to both games (should be rare).
Oak
Oak
At least I think it's possible to minimize this by identifying the largest co-tag for the bad tags, and removing all the the bad tags from other questions - e.g. if is used 60% by Skyrim, then remove it from all posts that are not tagged Skyrim - and then ask a mod to merge that bad tag into Skyrim.
Merging does not cause bumping.
@Wipqozn This is what I said no?
@Oak yeah, that was a plan we had from the get go. Although @QAdley is just burning tags so quickly it hasn't mattered :P
@QAdley I didn't think so.
Thought you said just tags all 360 with minecraft as well.
@Wipqozn I didn't know this was an option!
@Wipqozn Oh. That was what I meant to say.
@Wipqozn No!
@QAdley I believe it's listed in the meta.
The only problem with it is you need to be really certain that you've cleared all the other questions off before flagging it for a mod, who should then double check themselves.
14:15
@Wipqozn You expect me to read that massive meta?!
@QAdley Reading is hard.
@Wipqozn It's probably worth doing at this stage, for tags > 20 q's it saves a lot of nukination.
@QAdley yeah, it's certainly worth it.
[tag] [game-name] vs [tag] is a good way to see.
Although you'll need to wait a minute or two for that to update after burning some of the tags.
@Wipqozn Yes. It's very obvious on a few tags
ah, it's ctrl-w to change to the split in VIM.
14:18
@Wipqozn Obviously
I'm so used to screen I kept trying to do ctrl-a, and just kept switching my window :p
I only recently started using screen split in VIM. I normally prefer to just have additional screen windows.
@Wipqozn I wish I had the discipline to use VIM. I use NP++, which I must admit is pretty great
@QAdley Notepad++ is what I use when I'm programming in Windows.
@Wipqozn I mostly use Windows. I use Sublime Text 2 on my Mac, and usually * cough * gedit * cough * if I'm on *nix (rare)
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Q: Tag Synonym: [screen-capture] -> [recording]

QAdleyscreen-capture has 4 questions, recording has 25.

14:22
is a bigger tag than btw
but they seem to be splattered all over a random selection of other tags
*finger hovering over the purchase button for the Steam Deus Ex bundle*
@YiJiang why are you hovering?
There is only one bad game in that bundle
the other two are genuinely-legendary and modern-legendary
It's not cheap. And I'm not sure if my computer can (will?) handle HR
are you using a toaster?
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Q: Battlefield Premium: Gifting Back To Karkand to someone else

CJMHaving failed to find any means of contact someone relevant at EA.... I'm interested in getting Battlefield Premium, but I already have the base game which included the Back To Karkand DLC (limited edition). Buying premium would just about pay for itself, if I wanted all the remaining DLCs as t...

(instead of )
@YiJiang I haven't had the best experience with it :-(
14:32
Think so. This one's around five years old now, with the graphics card ripped out (which I should be able to replace easily, but the rest of the computer is still 5 years old)
@YiJiang what gpu do you have?
I ran Human Revolution fine with my less-than-stellar 9200M GT...
It used to have a 8600 GTS
@ickleislands Yeah, I was sincerely disappointed with Invisible War.
I've never had a single problem with it but on release date most of the people I know couldn't
@YiJiang I ran it with no issues on an 8800 GTS.
14:34
what is 'invisible war'? sounds like you're talking about 'matrix:revolutions'
@ickleislands Couldn't what?
@ickleislands Deus Ex 2 was titled Invisible War, wasn't it?
@YiJiang whole variety of 'game wouldn't start' (fixed by patches afaik), 'skipping cutscenes', etc
goes to check
@fbueckert it was, but there was no 'deus ex 2' ;)
just like there is only one matrix movie
14:35
@ickleislands Ah. Gotcha.
I found it really strange how they went from Deus Ex to Deus Ex 3... it's almost like some corporate types can't count
@ickleislands Dues EX HR wasn't called Deus Ex 3 :P
So they probably want to forget it exists too.
@Wipqozn touché
Was Deus Ex HR any good?
I've never actually played the second one, but from what I've heard of it I have no reason to.
14:36
Deus Ex: HR IS good in comparison to modern games
but is less than half the game of the original
also see Serious Sam 3 BFE
I never got through the tutorial on the original, nor do I have any inclination to ever do so.
@StrixVaria Other than the boss battles, it was Deus Ex.
But I wouldn't be opposed to trying the newer one.
Deus Ex: HR is very good in comparison to everything that came out last year
14:37
It provided some interesting philosophy.
and was my personal game of the year, even ahead of skyrim
@StrixVaria: HR is good. It's better than the original in some ways, and inferior in others.
I'll add it to my list of games to look at when I eventually stop playing D3.
@Wipqozn "some ways" -> graphically :) "other ways" -> everything else
^ not a completely fair statement, but it's close
@fbueckert yeah, the end-o-matic really made you think! Which ending slide show do I want...:P
14:38
It's unfair to compare an RPG game with an action game with RPG elements
There is the option of playing HR entirely without being stealthy, right?
The forced stealth part of the tutorial in Deus Ex is what made me quit and never look back.
You can kill everything, I tried it
There is only one person in the game you can't kill
@StrixVaria It's much easier to kill everything in HR than it was in the original.
14:40
due to him being required to progress the story
he does the skyrim thing of collapsing on the floor to catch his breath
other than him I had a 100% 'nuke everything that moves' before I did my pacifist playthrough
@StrixVaria problem is, there was no enforced stealth in Deus Ex 1 either
@Wipqozn I didn't mean the ending. :P I meant the morality in combining humanity with machines.
@ickleislands There was in the tutorial, which was mandatory.
You had to get through a short course without being seen just so you knew how the stealth mechanics worked.
Just curious, what would a good "modern" replacement for the 8600 or 8800 be? It doesn't have to be anything fast, since the rest of the hardware is 5 years old too
Thing is, I hate stealth games and stealth segments.
@StrixVaria I don't remember being forced to stealth the NSA off liberty island
unless you actually meant the tutorial
in which case you basically based your opinion of one of the most in depth games of all time off the box art
14:43
They need to mod the Deus Ex story into the HR engine.
the original deus ex allowed you to progress through the game killing people specifically by throwing vending machines at them if you wanted to
I hae decided. Today. I am going to exercise.
It is going to suck
@spugsley Until you finish. Then you will be happy and glad you did.
Does a question need both and ?
@ickleislands No, implies
14:49
was my implication :)
@QAdley Note that this is not true of .
@LessPop_MoreFizz Yes
@LessPop_MoreFizz Do we actually have any questions about Steam on PS3?
Hmm, we do, apparently
@YiJiang Also, Steam on macs...
And possibly Linux in future
14:51
Ah, right.
The Portal 2 DLC was called 'perpetual testing initiative' right?
Yup. But I thought it isn't going to get enough questions for the tag to be useful
We talked about this a while back
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Q: Skyrim flashing launching screen

Norton Taylorthis is my first post on gaming :D My question is basically when trying to loading Skyrim via Steam, the "preparing to launch" screen flashes on and off over and over, I have tried removing all my mods, I have tried reinstalling the game completely, I have tried removing the .ini files. The only...

14:58
@ickleislands Write Tag Wikis for all the tags you create

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