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GnomeSlice

00:00

Which would be why they need their own proprietary system.

QAdp

or rather that's becuase some people sell keys on paypal for less than the store does, thus decreasing the estimates cost to get an unusual accordingly

Fluttershy

@YiJiang Yes... Yes they are.

QAdp

@gnome Im saying Steam's got much juicier stuff than Blizzard does and yet Steam gets away with sending one email every once in a while

while Blizzard needs dedicated hardware

GnomeSlice

@QAdp Email? I must have missed more of the discussion than I thought.

ickleislands

That's because Valve is the last bastion of legendary game developers in the world

QAdp

00:01

(or smartphones)

ickleislands

Even ID sold themselves out

Long live Valve!

QAdp

@gnome yes, yes you have

Yi Jiang

@ickleislands (not sure if sarcastic)

GnomeSlice

I'm not terribly happy with Valve, on the whole.

QAdp

@ickle game dev != security

GnomeSlice

00:02

Mostly because of Steam.

ickleislands

I love Valve

Last large games company in the world that hasn't offended me in some way

QAdp

hey, I love Valve too! how novel.

ickleislands

They even refunded my copy of RAGE after just one email

GnomeSlice

I haven't been offended by a single large games company. You people take everything too personally.

ickleislands

Yes, I take Blizzard banning me for logging in from two IPs in 30 minutes personally

And then accusing me of being hacked

that's a personal insult

GnomeSlice

00:04

@ickleislands Ergh, IndieRoyale does that when you access your bundle from two computers over ANY length of time.

ickleislands

I take ID software only testing their games on a specific set of hardware and then calling their customers various names because they couldn't be bothered to Q&A their stuff

quite personally

I take EA repackaging the same game 30 times personally

QAdp

mostly because it's so much more convenient than finding just the right torrent with the right instructions and the right crack and the right patch and the right disk image mounting software with the right drivers and right options

ickleislands

I take EIDOS turning Deus Ex into an Action RPG personal

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands I'm not sure the word 'personally' means what you think it does.

ickleislands

uh

Fredy31

00:05

@ickleislands yeah they repackage the same 30 games over and over again, and 20 of them are sports.

QAdp

and then it doesn't work anyway and you start over

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I lol'd pretty hard. That was a good one.

ickleislands

@GnomeSlice I understand the meaning of "personally"

GnomeSlice

The last game I bought from EA was Scrabble Blast for iOS and it's brilliant.

Although, to be fair, the customer service was unusable for me.

Wipqozn

WEl, I'm off. Night everyone.

tortoise swoosh

Fluttershy

00:06

@GnomeSlice If you want, I can give you this coupon code, and you can buy Tera just to have it on hand in the event it goes freemium?

ickleislands

@Wipqozn nn

GnomeSlice

Since you have to pick your phone, and your provider when you sign up for the help center online, and they didn't offer my carrier with my phone in the choices.

I eventually figured the problem out myself, but that really annoyed me.

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy If it goes freemium then you probably wouldn't need to pay for the base game either.

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn I'm just trying to get rid of this damn thing. >.>

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy It's still $25? Also, why would you buy it in case it goes freemium?

QAdp

00:07

@ickle I like DXHR much better than the original ducks

ickleislands

:O

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy How did you get it?

GnomeSlice

Also, I doubt I'd be able to play it anyway, though it does look ruddy awesome.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice It comes with a free month... <.<

@Wipqozn Raptr

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Oh, I see, there's a subscription and a game fee.

ickleislands

00:07

Original DX was legendary

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy I'm not sure what that means.

ickleislands

DXHR is merely 'good'

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Look it up, it's a service.

@Fluttershy Have you played it yet?

Fluttershy

@Wipqozn raptr.com

@GnomeSlice I have not. And have no intention of playing.

John

@GnomeSlice

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QAdp

00:08

it doesn't help that I took way too long to find out how to play the original game with thirty-whopping-two bits of colour

GnomeSlice

@John Alternatively, 'Ohm More'.

@Fluttershy Why... not?

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice The oversexualized art style bothers me. Namely the oversexualization of the race that look like 9 year olds.

QAdp

nite

ickleislands

anybody here have experience with e-cigarettes?

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy Have you looked at it recently? I remember making fun of the boobs when it was still in development, but honestly, it looks like they've toned it down substantially.

Now, 'Blade and Soul' looks amazing, but it appears to be impossible to have a female character without a huge ass, a tiny waist, and massive tits.

Which is really dumb. I hate shit like that.

Fluttershy

00:10

@GnomeSlice I wouldn't say substantially, but they did have to tone it down some to avoid the ESRB.

Wipqozn

@John Good job, sir tortoise clap

ickleislands

@GnomeSlice I hate that as well

GnomeSlice

Because then when you play it, all you're going to see is mostly naked girls running around.

John

@Wipqozn Why thank you. non-tortoise bow

GnomeSlice

Because all of the basement dwellers are going to make their characters as sexually confusing as possible.

user2334

00:11

Didn't they just add pants or something to the hyper-sexual 9 year old race to get around the ESRB rating?

GnomeSlice

Assuming that's the class you're talking about, it looks like a child with an adult face.

Wipqozn

anyways, time to swoosh

tortoise swoosh

user2334

Yep, they just added hot pants and covered the midriffs

GnomeSlice

Doesn't seem sexualized to me. But then again, we know how my opinions on these matters generally stack up.

ickleislands

@MarkTrapp is that what Tera looks like?

GnomeSlice

00:14

Also, just because some fictional race of people doesn't wear pants doesn't make them 'sexualized', it's probably not considered inappropriate in the culture.

Fluttershy

@ickleislands Yes it is.

ickleislands

Is there a hair colour choice other than blonde?

user2334

@ickleislands That's what one of the races look like at least. The popori are cooler

GnomeSlice

@MarkTrapp ...Okay, that's kind of weird.

@ickleislands I see an orange one.

ickleislands

that orange is strawberry blonde

GnomeSlice

00:15

@ickleislands Also, brown apparently.

ickleislands

like I meant a real colour

@GnomeSlice ah k

GnomeSlice

Blonde isn't a real colour?

ickleislands

@GnomeSlice I would never go blonde

GnomeSlice

Blondes are where it's at.

Oh wow, I should have known better.

'Play the TERA demo now, with no download required!'

Yes, it was too good to be true.

ickleislands

'No download required'?

oh java based

GnomeSlice

00:17

It streams.

I can't even stream youtube any more from here.

ickleislands

I get the same error and I can stream youtube

GnomeSlice

Surprisingly it appears to be working this time. It's going to roll over and die, I expect.

Nope, insufficient bandwidth.

ickleislands

Even with my downloads stopped I have insufficent bandwidth

GnomeSlice

It probably needs very fast internet.

ickleislands

GnomeSlice

00:21

I have to say I have mixed feelings about the whole 'super ball-breakingly hot females' thing in most MMOs.

On one hand, I think it's really dumb, and unnecessary.

ickleislands

Well it's unrealistic and clearly tailored towards men

GnomeSlice

But on the other hand, I mean, if you're going to model characters, you might as well do it right.

@ickleislands That's the easy reaction, yes.

Think about it.

The men in those games are pretty fine specimens too.

ickleislands

erm, you played WoW?

GnomeSlice

If you were going to create a bunch of people, you could make them look however you want.

@ickleislands Well, often they are. And no, I haven't.

ickleislands

All the girls have back breakingly oversized proportions and all the men have been hit by trucks repeatedly

GnomeSlice

00:23

There are certain standards that are generally accepted by society to be 'ideal' for both genders. It stands to reason that anyone with the full freedom to model people however they wanted would want to make them look... well, good.

@ickleislands Having gigantic tits doesn't automatically equal attractive, you know.

ickleislands

@GnomeSlice nope, however the general point is valid

take human male vs human female as the example

unfortunately though it leads to lots of boys dancing on mailboxes with no clothes on

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands ...What?

ickleislands

in WoW

as girls

Yi Jiang

Mailboxes?

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands Right.

ickleislands

00:25

boxes that your mail arrives in

GnomeSlice

Well think about it, an 'attractive' female is generally much more easily distinguishable for her traits than an 'attractive' male is for his.

It's just the way it works.

Fluttershy

ickleislands

Maybe in your eyes

GnomeSlice

I say 'attractive' for lack of a better word, I assume you know what I'm talking about.

ickleislands

I do, but I see attractiveness in men most likely a lot easier than you do

GnomeSlice

00:26

@ickleislands What I mean is that all put up in armor, a skinny dude and a RIPPED dude look about the same, whereas a lady with a large... bosom is pretty clearly identifiable.

I'm not talking about personal preference, gah, I figured you'd miss my point.

Lazers

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Q: Is there a difference between green movement and blue movement?

All ships in Endless Space have a speed (listed in Parsecs / Turn) that varies based on faction, engine modules, random events, and researched technology. Some of these above grant a modifier that is colored blue, and some of these grant a modifier that is colored green. What's the difference b...

endless-space

ickleislands

no, I started what I said with "i do"

GnomeSlice

►

ickleislands

as in, acknowledgement

user2334

Can this question be put out of its misery already? Not sure how many more links we need to Wowhead

ickleislands

00:27

but I figured you'd not read what I said

GnomeSlice

So, that video is a case in point.

That guy's character is utterly, utterly ridiculous.

She makes zero sense.

But it's a nice character.

Fuck you, genitalia.

Ergh.

ickleislands

o.o

GnomeSlice

Although to be honest, I'm not a fan of the white hair, but it's just an example.

I like saying I find characters like that stupid, and ridiculous, and dumb.

ickleislands

realistically they'd never stay inside that material with all that jumping around

and I guarantee the designer was a guy

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands There's nothing realistic about a virtually un-armored chick with some massive, sculpted hooters running around not getting killed by monsters.

ickleislands

00:30

but but

The blizzard methodology says less armour = more

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands You'd be surprised. Female character designers do the same thing.

Because face it: everyone loves a hot girl, or a hot guy.

I mean, you could make everyone in your game ugly.

But... why?

ickleislands

because the traditional market for games is guys

especially persistent worlds, even though the market is changing

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands Again, that's the initial response, yes.

But female characters like playing attractive girls over ugly ones too.

ickleislands

@GnomeSlice All I am going to say to you is "The original tomb raider"

And that was definitely not aimed at girls

and yes I prefer playing an attractive girl over an ugly one, but i'd rather play a badass one over an attractive one

and I'd rather play a realistically proportioned one that I can emotionally relate with

That video is just plain silly

I couldn't get immersed in something like that

so hey, i just met you... and this is crazy, but here's my number, so call me maybe?

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands ...Lara Croft is both of those things.

@ickleislands Is that a meme or something?

ickleislands

00:41

@GnomeSlice was*

no its a song I got stuck horribly in my head

Yi Jiang

@ickleislands ಠ_ಠ

ickleislands

against my wishes while trying to mock somebody else who had it stuck in their head

Yi Jiang

@GnomeSlice Don't listen to it, just don't

ickleislands

i made the mistake of finding the acapella of it and starting to remix it

and now I have the chorus horribly lodged in my brain

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands But... but... erg mixed feelings lol.

ickleislands

00:42

it's impeding the part of my brain that regulates my ability to not keep repeating annoying phrases

GnomeSlice

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A: Forgetful Chat Site Directory

This was caused by the fact that the user's parent account on gaming was a sockpuppet that got merged into the main user (you), but hadn't been merged on chat yet. This has happened now (and thus "Lost in Mystery" doesn't exist anymore). Improving the handling of such a case in general is on our...

Wait a second, is it just me, or does this answer say that the parent user was a sockpuppet?

ickleislands

@GnomeSlice yes it does

GnomeSlice

Is that... not right because this is the parent?

I dunno, I always forget what parent means. It's never consistent.

ickleislands

oh

they finally did an ERB of Steve Jobs vs Bill Gates

Yi Jiang

@GnomeSlice Usually the first account created chronologically or the one with the most rep

GnomeSlice

00:48

@YiJiang That would be this one, still.

Yi Jiang

Sockpuppeteers usually have one main account and a bunch of smaller ones with just enough rep to upvote the main account

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands Oh Jeez. That's probably going to piss some people off.

ickleislands

@GnomeSlice it's not of the same quality as the earlier ones unfortunately

Opened it up expecting something earth shattering like Bieber vs Beethoven

GnomeSlice

@ickleislands That one was dumb. Beethoven had some good lines, but honestly, I'm sick of everyone doing the 'Justin Bieber is a fag and should die, etc' thing.

ickleislands

Shakespear vs Dr Seuss

or Elvis vs MJ

GnomeSlice

00:51

I like the big-screenshot site design on Indie Love. (http://indie-love.com/). Not sure how I feel about all the pink though!

Tweeted by Jonathan_Blow on June 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Yi Jiang

@GnomeSlice It's more of a meme nowadays than anything else

Doesn't mean his music is not terrible though

GnomeSlice

@YiJiang One of the worst memes ever to become a meme, in my opinion.

ickleislands

sadly Bieber is the reason that I have this song stuck in my head

GnomeSlice

Nobody forces anybody to listen to music they don't want to listen to.

People just think it's 'cool' to violently threaten Justin Bieber.

indie-love.com/2012/06/10/…

QAtash

You know you have it bad for the game when you look at your preorder, realize it isn't the special edition, and feel a little heartbroken

GnomeSlice

00:57

@QAtash I know that feeling. Even though I don't pre-order things.

Lazers

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Q: What are the highest FIDS yields possible for each planet type?

For the large majority of the game, the planets you're dealt are the planets you get. But as you approach Endless Space's endgame, terraforming options start to open up, and suddenly the formerly simple task of resource optimization gets much harder. Sure, a basic 0/1/1/5 Arctic is obviously wor...

endless-space

ickleislands

@GnomeSlice actually in this instance, Bieber found the track and gave her a record deal, if he hadn't my friend would have never heard it and I would have never got it stuck in my head :p

@GnomeSlice but you are right and I have no hate towards anybody

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