The Bridge

agent86

13:03

@TylerShads if you're ever thinking to yourself "I like being on-call when my wife's entertainment mixes with a bunch of unstable software" a linux-based DVR may be right for you

Yi Jiang

@agent86 Huh, I must be too young for this. How does that work?

agent86

@YiJiang PCI video capture card + drivers + DVR software

Yi Jiang

I mean, why do you need a Linux box to do DVR instead of how it's done now

The correct term is TiVo, is it?

murgatroid99

@YiJiang TiVo is a particular DVR

Kappei

0

Q: Diablo 3 Weapon / Skill Elemental Attributes

I've been playing Diablo 3 for a while now, but i've never really bothered about the elemental attributes of a weapon itself (for example, an Arcane-based weapon, etc). I know there are 6 different attributes to a weapon, namely: Arcane Cold Fire Holy Lightning Poison But how does it affe...

diablo-3

looks like a duplicate to me

Wipqozn

13:08

@Kappei What is your gravatar from? It looks familiar, but I can't quite place it.

Kappei

96

.33

Yi Jiang

@murgatroid99 Right, but how far back do you have to go such that the hardware required to do DVR won't fit into a box the size of a TiVo?

Kappei

1+0

Wipqozn

@Kappei ...what?

Lazers

0

Q: Why do we find the Iron Wolves in Caldeum?

Last time we saw the Iron Wolves, they were in Kurast, lending us a help with their warriors. Why did they move to Caldeum? Is Asheara after the Evils too, or it's just a coincidence?

diablo-3

0

Q: Diablo 3 Weapon / Skill Elemental Attributes

I've been playing Diablo 3 for a while now, but i've never really bothered about the elemental attributes of a weapon itself (for example, an Arcane-based weapon, etc). I know there are 6 different attributes to a weapon, namely: Arcane Cold Fire Holy Lightning Poison But how does it affe...

diablo-3

2

Q: Does later acts in inferno drop better gear?

Does act 4 in inferno drop better gear then act 1 in inferno, or do they all drop the same loot because all the monsters are the same level (60+)? I know in the other difficulties the loot is better but that is tied to what I think is the level of the monster. Now for inferno all the monsters wo...

diablo-3

0

Q: How can I see what my item was sold for at Auction?

I'm trying to get an idea of pricing so I can get the most value out of any future items that I'll sell. I don't put more than a minute or two into each item so it would be nice to get some feedback on how long it took for items to sell, how much interest there was in it, etc. I notice that item...

diablo-3

murgatroid99

13:12

@YiJiang I don't get what you're trying to say

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 He's obviously speaking in tongues. He must be a witch!

Yi Jiang

@Wipqozn 天那，我真的不知道为什么你会那么想

Wipqozn

@YiJiang I'll assume that's Spanish for "All Worship Lord Wipqozn"

Yi Jiang

@Wipqozn Si

agent86

@YiJiang it's not that tivo-style boxes didn't exist, it's just that they cost around $500, whereas many people already own an old computer, linux is free, and the capture cards are ~$100

Kappei

13:16

@Wipqozn sorry, my daughter got hold of the keyboard :P

agent86

I believe when introduced both DVRs also required a monthly subscription

Yi Jiang

Huh, interesting. That's how it's done here, still.

Wipqozn

@agent86 Most still do.

Kappei

@Wipqozn it's Kappei Sakamoto, the main character of "DASH! Kappei"

Wipqozn

@Kappei Ah, okay.

Gotcha.

Dawg.

tortoise shades

Gaming not on Gaming

13:17

0

Q: Games runs slow / lag after upgrading to 12.04 on via chipsets

I am using the latest ubuntu release 12.04 upgraded online from previous release 11.10 Till this release openarena was working perfect but last night I upgraded to 12.04 and now openarena terribly lags / runs slow. Even the blue background water like thing animation is very slow and the game lags...

12.04 unity games release-upgrade openchrome

0

Q: My computer is stuck in full screen resolution?

My computer is stuck in full screen resolution.? I play Team Fortress 2 in Full screen mode. Usually upon opening and exiting the game the resolution changes from full screen to the regular resolution. I turned my computer on the other day and the graphics were really large as if the screen was s...

windows gaming graphics screen-resolution

Kappei

Dash Kappei

is a sports manga series written and illustrated by Noboru Rokuda and first published in 1980 in Weekly Shōnen Sunday. The manga had 158 chapters. The manga was also adapted into a 65-episode anime TV series by Tatsunoko Production in 1981, chiefly directed by Masayuki Hayashi. The anime was aired across Japan on Fuji TV Sundays at 6 p.m. from 4 October 1981 to 26 December 1982. In Japan, it was one of Tatsunoko's most successful shows of the 1980s in terms of ratings, regularly scoring around 15-20%, but it achieved even greater success when it was adapted for the Italian TV ma...

Wipqozn

swoosh

Sterno

@LessPop_MoreFizz Queen Cagidala there is kind of creepy

FAE

@Sterno Everything there is kind of creepy. Everything.

2

agent86

@YiJiang so yeah, at one point I thought "huh, maybe it makes more sense to roll my own" and then I learned NO NO IT DOES NOT. NOT AT ALL

Sterno

13:29

Hey guys! Guess what? It's Friday!

Yi Jiang

@Sterno ಠ_ಠ

Sterno

May it stay with you all day long!

FAE

@Sterno Right now I have 2 songs with very disparate messages stuck in my head. It's kind of weird.

Yi Jiang

I thank His Noodliness for the fact that my internet is sufficiently slow

I shall now pray for him to turn off the tap that my nose has turned into

badp

@agent86 but where do you put the freedom to perform erlang distributed map-reduce computations on your DTV programming data?

so that you can use DBUS to tell VLC to change channel to the given frequency that's got the best program at any given moment

Sterno

13:33

@FAE I'd ask what the other is but I fear the same would happen to me!

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno I prefer this celebration of Friday

Sterno

I kind of want to play Max Payne 3. But that would take time away from Diablo. Hrm

badp

and then pipeline this with Ubuntu's indicator system to announce channel changes and news and tweets and everything and then record everything with record-my-desktop

FAE

@Sterno Somebody That I Used to Know by Gotye and Jupiter by Your Favorite Martian. 2 very different themes in those songs. I did not click your link. :P

Sterno

@FAE Fortunate for you!

Gotta get down to the bus stop!

tiddy

13:36

Time to remote download MP3

badp

and upload the recordings to an owncloud instance virtualizing your array of cheap disks bought on ebay on the cheap automatically

tiddy

Thanks steam

FAE

@Sterno LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU

Sterno

@FAE Front seat? Back seat? Gotta make my mind up!

Kappei

@tiddy for what?

badp

13:37

with some perl, some mechanizer and much regexp abuse plus a touch of string slicing-based cheating

murgatroid99

@Sterno that's not even how the song goes

tiddy

I took out my phone and started my Max Payne 3 download to my PC at home

Sterno

@murgatroid99 Are you sure? You'd better listen again just in case.

Lazers

1

Q: How does the new type of secret room work?

In Wrath of the Lamb, I've come across a new type of secret room that works in ways I am not familiar with (primarily, unlike the standard secret room, it doesn't appear next to multiple adjacent rooms. Also, it's icon on the map is a darker question mark): This got me wondering about just how ...

binding-of-isaac wrath-of-the-lamb

0

Q: Is Cain having memory trouble?

On act 1, when you find the stranger (Tyrael) in the crater, right after the Skeleton King, you bring him back to town and speak to Cain. Cain seems to not recognize him, but how is it possible, since in Diablo 2 act 4 theyre standing side by side and if I'm correct Cain knows Tyrael personally.....

diablo-3

1

Q: Diablo 3 key & Diablo 3 CE key

What happens if you already have activated your D3 key at Battle.net and afterwards activate a D3 CE key? Is it even possible on 1 account?

diablo-3

0

Q: What happened to the Horadric Cube?

What happened to the Horadric Cube in Diablo 2 now that its in Diablo 3? Is it lost forever? Or is there a chance to find such a rare item again? Also, wouldn't the Horadric Cube be with Deckard Cain, since he is one of the last Horadrim?

diablo-3

murgatroid99

@Sterno I'm only pretty sure and I'm not going to listen to it again

badp

13:38

and the remote is a custom-built app for her android built with mono and it's got buttons that activate the appropriate daemons through console commands such as agent-likes-this or agent-never-wants-to-see-this-ever-again

Yi Jiang

> What happens when both a Diablo 3 key and a Collector's Edition key is activated on one Battle.net account?

@Lazers ^ Good title?

FAE

@Lazers This... sounds kind of NARQ-y

@YiJiang "are activated"

Sterno

@FAE That's what I said with my VTC vote!

agent86

@badp I put it in the bucket with all the other great ideas that make no practical sense whatsoever

Yi Jiang

@badp <3

badp

13:41

@agent86 but I didn't get yet to the point where the whole stack automatically updates your tumblr!

FAE

@Sterno I'm not sure I feel comfortable enough to VTC, as without playing, I'm not sure if this is actually answered ingame or not.

Yi Jiang

Oh very funny

badp

@YiJiang I know I know

LessPop_MoreFizz

Hey North Carolina crew: Your state is run by morons. Just fyi.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz ...I... this... what.

LessPop_MoreFizz

13:44

Ugh. Not this 'MY DUPE IS OKAY BECUSE THE ANSWER TO THE OTHER QUESTION SUCKS' nonsense again. :/

i'm looking for a percentage chart. not a wall of text. and the results for that answer is incomplete. There are 7 elemental attributes, he only covered 4. — Reno Yeo 7 mins ago

Sterno

@FAE I figured it was kind of borderline. It's one of those "hard to prove a negative" type questions. I'm pretty sure there's nothing in D3 about it.

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz Arrrrgh. That, plus "Not a dupe because we should have short answers be separate instead of in a long canonical answer" seem to have come up a lot in D3 stuff.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE I'm much more sympathetic to that one.

I rather dislike the whole 'Aggregate all the things' mentality that some people seem to have with questions about collectibles etc.

agent86

@badp hmm? sorry? I can't hear you over the sound of how much I don't give a crap.

Wipqozn

I'll give you one guess which editor I'm using:

    new_user.is_active = False                                   i
                                                                 ^
SyntaxError: invalid syntax

agent86

13:51

buuuuurrrrrnnnnn

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Wipqozn Looks like Adobe Premiere!

murgatroid99

@Wipqozn False i?

Yi Jiang

@LessPop_MoreFizz Premiere doesn't use python for scripting, I think?

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 ^ should be pointing at i.

Which is what the invalid syntax is.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh my no.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@YiJiang I am not really trying to make a serious guess.

0

Q: Calculating Dual Wield Character DPS

I've been hacking through several formulas across this site and others. I'm running into problems trying to figure out the true DPS when the character is dual wielding. Let's take a low level Barbarian for example. Strength: 28 Damage Increased by Skills: 0% Attacks per second: 1.24 Crit Chance:...

diablo-3

Yi Jiang

13:52

Oh, it was AE which I was thinking of, which uses JavaScript as its scripting language

LessPop_MoreFizz

UGH more dupes

(Right after I say that I dislike the whole 'MORE BIG CANONICAL ANSWERS' trend, I point out that I have one that has many many many dupes to it.)

Sterno

I hate that the only real advice we can offer to the people posting dupes is "Post a bounty on the other question in the hopes you get a better answer". Most of the people doing this don't really have much rep for bounties

Yi Jiang

@Sterno Bump it by giving one of the posts a good edit

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn Can you make a list in python have custom indexes?

Yi Jiang

Emphasis on good

badp

13:54

I suggest something like "Y U NO UPVOET ME"

murgatroid99

@RonanForman what do you mean by custom indexes?

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz I don't mean stuff like collectibles, as I definitely agree with you there and your whole "we are not GameFAQs" post. I mean stuff like this vs. this.

JamesCW

@RonanForman Like a dictionary?

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 Exactly my question.

@JamesCW That's what it sounds like he wants, but I'm not sure.

Ronan Forman

@murgatroid99 So instead of 0,1,2,3, it labels them a,b,c,d

Yi Jiang

13:55

@YiJiang Also, oy at whoever who stared this >:|

murgatroid99

@RonanForman that's what you would use a dict for

Wipqozn

@RonanForman yeah, you want a dictionary

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno Part of the problem, IMO is that most of the time when we get these dupes, it's because the question they don't like the answer to doesn't have a good answer because one isn't possible because the mechanic isn't clearly exposed to begin with.

badp

@RonanForman you want either tuple unpacking or a dictionary

Wipqozn

@RonanForman: Documentation here

But the syntax you'll need is...

Create: fruit = {'apple': 3, 'orange': 4} (or fruit = {} to create an empty dictionary)

badp

13:56

a, b, c, d = (1, 2, 3, 4) //tuple unpacking assignment
{'a': 1, 'b': 2, 'c': 3, 'd': 4} //dictionary

Wipqozn

Edit/Add: fruit['apple'] = 5; fruit['grape'] = 4

Ronan Forman

Cool.

badp

but if you have a list [1, 2, 3, 4] then you must do something such as

Wipqozn

the ; is obviously not valid python, and is just there to show you that both creates and modifies

badp

a, b, c, d = foo[0], foo[1], foo[2], foo[3]

murgatroid99

13:57

@Wipqozn actually, it is

badp

@Wipqozn it is

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 Really?

badp

yes

murgatroid99

@badp a,b,c,d=tuple(foo)?

Ronan Forman

You guys are the best.

Wipqozn

13:58

well sugar snap!

badp

@murgatroid99 or that, hoping you only have 4 items in your list

murgatroid99

@Wipqozn it does what you expect it to do, too

Wipqozn

Today I learned.

Ronan Forman

Execpt @Wipqozn or it'll go to his head.

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 Well, it's python, so of course it does :P

murgatroid99

13:59

@badp a,b,c,d,*e=tuple(foo)

Wipqozn

Hot dog I love Python.

badp

@murgatroid99 He expected Python to go sort of like ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME tbh

Wipqozn

@badp Well, yes, but now that I know it's valid syntax I knew what it did right away :P

Because it is Python, and python is awesome.

3

JamesCW

@Wipqozn QFT

Wipqozn

Also, the answer was VIM.

murgatroid99

14:01

@Wipqozn I was going to guess emacs but the we went off on a tangent

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 haha yes

I've never used EMACs myself.

I've been meaning to try it, just to see what it's like, but I rather like VIM.

and by like I mean love

murgatroid99

@Wipqozn I'm using it right now to write python

Wipqozn

VIM <3

Sterno

Ugh. Freedom means having the choice to make stupid personal decisions!

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 and I'm using VIM to write python too! high-five

murgatroid99

14:02

@Wipqozn (\

Ronan Forman

Real programmers set the universal constants at the start such that the universe evolves to contain the disk with the data they want.

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 /)

Fortunately, the charging one has been solved now that we've all standardized on mini-USB. Or is it micro-USB? Shit.

swoosh

agent86

@Wipqozn I love nano.

you can have my nano when you pry it from my cold, dead hands.

JamesCW

@agent86 Yeah, carpel tunnel is a bitch

FAE

@Sterno I heard about this. I'm wondering if it'll extend to upstate.

agent86

14:12

@JamesCW I'm not sure if you're pro- or anti- my pro-nano statement, so I'll refrain from any stern gazing for now. but know that you could be getting sternly gazed at shortly

JamesCW

@agent86 Lol no strong feelings for nano either way, I do mostly config file editing in vi, and coding in Progammer's Notepad or Eclipse. I appreciate the forbearance re: stern gazes

LessPop_MoreFizz

So I'm Odin, the All-Father; I am Iron Grim, the One-Eyed. I'm the Longbeard, Lord of Ghosts, Wise One... you get the idea. My gaming rig is engraved with protective runes, and my firewall is a wall manned by Heimdell, who sees and hears any threat to the residents of Asgard. Every day at sunrise, my entire system is massaged with a poultice of angelica, burdock, comfrey, dill, and moss provided by Eir while a healing galdr is chanted over it. My ISP is two ravens that bring me news of all the happenings in the world and is always 100% stable and secure, personally watched over by the birds…

ahahahahahaha

Wipqozn

Okay, let's divide the bridge into two sets of people.

Yi Jiang

@Wipqozn Can't... can't I like them both?

Wipqozn

The first we'll call the "Correct" group, which will be people who use VIM; and we'll call the other group the "Incorrect" group, which will be people who use something other than VIM.

@YiJiang HERETIC!

fbueckert

14:15

1

A: What is the most optimal way to build Monk to in Inferno?

I've been slowly working my way through Inferno, and I think I've come up with a respectable build. I'm focusing on a hybrid dodge/life regen build. Skills Primary: Fists of Thunder with Lightning Flash - the dodge is subject to diminishing returns, but it's still an extra ~8% while I'm attac...

Yi Jiang

*hides*

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot and other Inferno monk players. Feedback?

murgatroid99

@Wipqozn won't you be lonely?

fbueckert

Wait, what did I just walk into?

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 oh snap

okay, I just thought of that joke and wanted to make it. tortoise swoosh

LessPop_MoreFizz

14:16

@Wipqozn where do those who don't use a command line editor go?

Ronan Forman

Did @Wipqozn join and leave at the same time just then?

Yi Jiang

@fbueckert vim vs. emacs vs. nano

FAE

@RonanForman That's what he does when he swooshes

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE Where by 'swooshes' you mean 'pressed F5'.

Grace Note

@LessPop_MoreFizz You'd join me in using something like Cream, clearly

FAE

14:18

@Wipqozn And what about those of us who don't code?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GraceNote Cream makes my coffee taste better.

@FAE That's what I just said.

Yi Jiang

@GraceNote Cream appears to be based on vim

Grace Note

@YiJiang It's a GUI for vim, essentially

LessPop_MoreFizz

I use... Microsoft Word!

Yi Jiang

@GraceNote How about gVim?

agent86

14:20

@Wipqozn STERN GAZE

Grace Note

@YiJiang I don't use it so I wouldn't know

Yi Jiang

@LessPop_MoreFizz *crickets*

LessPop_MoreFizz

Do I get any cred for using Scrivener for some stuff?

tiddy

Textmate. :|

LessPop_MoreFizz

@tiddy I own Textmate I think, for some reason, from some bundle or other.

I used to use it to open wow combat log files that caused textedit to crash when I needed to trim/edit the raw log for some reason.

I am a SOPHISTICATED COMPUTER USER.

Oh oh! And I have an old copy of Mellel because RTL.

fbueckert

14:24

@LessPop_MoreFizz My computer does what I want it to because it's scared of me.

Sterno

I like notepad++. It does what I need without all the pretension and overkill of emacs!

5

murgatroid99

@Sterno I'm on Linux, so that's not even an option for me

fbueckert

@Sterno I found some awesome gloves yesterday. I'm slowly progressing towards a solo Butcher kill.

fredley

@Sterno With you there, NP++ is great

Sterno

@fbueckert Soon, Act 1 will be on farm and even the nasty elite packs will seem like weaksauce to you!

fredley

14:26

NP++ and WinSCP/PuTTY connected to a linux box is a good dev environment

Sterno

And then Act 2 will kick your ass

fbueckert

@Sterno I just broke 13K health. I'm sorta looking forward to how badly I'm going to die in Act 2.

Sterno

@fbueckert I dropped 200k on a 900 DPS 2-hander with 800 life on hit last night, just to see what kind of difference it made. Lack of shield definitely hurt, but life on hit more than made up for it except in cases of huge damage spikes. Made it clear I definitely need to save 2-3 million for a good 1-hander with life on hit

fbueckert

@Sterno My strategy pays off! I'm squishy as all get out, but anything that can't kill me in one hit will die. Eventually.

Sterno

@fbueckert I'm not sure that will hold true in act 2. Or rather, it will, it's just that everything can one-shot you with 13k life :P

LessPop_MoreFizz

14:30

@Sterno Life on Hit is really really good.

Much better than % of life.

fbueckert

@Sterno I'm slowly adding extra vitality, as upgrades and money permit. We'll see how well I do.

LessPop_MoreFizz

It essentially trivializes damage reflecting mobs among other things.

Like, it's a good enough stat that even if your 'best' weapon doesn't have it, you should keep a weapon around with it for packs with reflect.

Kappei

Are you having problems with the AH today?

Sterno

@LessPop_MoreFizz I agree. I only worry about % of life in terms of trying to make sure my helm has a free socket

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno I mean % life steal, not +Max HP %

Sterno

14:33

Oh. %life steal is crap

LessPop_MoreFizz

+Max HP % may or may not be better than vitality at any given point in time based on how much vit you have.

Sterno

I've never, even on inferno, had a problem with damage-reflecting packs. Probably due to my crappy, crappy DPS and high armor. I suspect you apply damage reduction to your own damage

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno Yes. Yes it is. My point is that the crappiness of %lifesteal makes people disregard +Life on Hit as well, thinking that the two are functionally similar.

and they're really, really, not.

fbueckert

@Sterno Yeah, melee classes get crappy DPS, due to having to gear for more than damage. I just broke 10K yesterday!

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno I've two-shot myself.

Sterno

14:34

@LessPop_MoreFizz I've literally never noticed reflects damage. I actually thought it was just broken until playing with my wife (who is a wizard, and hates damage reflecting mobs)

Lazers

0

Q: Skyrim house murders?

Quite new to Skyrim so quick question: I've noticed that when I kill an entire building/household full of people and get the Bounty removed message, the guards will still come after me regardless the moment I step out of the house. Is there a way around this?

skyrim

1

Q: Is there any way to flee from a boss fight other than death?

If I'm fighting a major boss in Diablo III (Maghda, Belial, the Big D himself, and so on), is there any way to escape or flee from the arena other than death? Can I quit the game, or yank my ethernet cable?

diablo-3

0

Q: How to complete the gardening achievement?

I'm trying to get the gardening achievement: I went through all of the Gardens of Hope (both tiers) and destroyed all the corruptions I could see. But still I am missing one. Does anyone has a clue? The maps of the cleared areas:

diablo-3 achievements

Sterno

Reflects Damage, Mortar, and Illusionist are my favorites. The first two are essentially non-factors, and the 3rd actually makes them easier

LessPop_MoreFizz

Mortar is awful in combination with certain other traits, and totally ignorable with others.

Sterno

On the other hand, I hate plague, desecrator, and molten. My wife as a wizard doesn't even notice those

well, unless they have vortex

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno She should notice Desecrator.... they can drop those from range.

authenticgeek

14:38

Anyone playing d3 in hell at the moment? Just finished nightmare last night

fbueckert

@Sterno I wonder how applicable my answer for Monk builds on Inferno are for Barbarians.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Desecrator Waller AUGH

Sterno

@LessPop_MoreFizz She's too busy running around to notice.

I like waller too! I can leap over if it's a real problem, but usually the monsters just block themselves off

I do like how different properties affect the classes very differently

LessPop_MoreFizz

Waller can go either way. Sometimes it helps me, sometimes it fucks me.

Waller + Arcane Enchanted is the worst

Wipqozn

My word I'm popular.

LessPop_MoreFizz

14:41

Okay, work time

user15026

@wipqozn Thanks for the lovely inquiry into my well being twitch

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn Anytime.

Also, ur welcome.

fbueckert

@LessPop_MoreFizz I ran into some Vortex Arcane Enchanted bats in the Cathedral. I run away to avoid the sentries, and promptly got vortexed right on top of one.

user15026

@wipqozn grump face

Wipqozn

Watching MLP is a great way to spend a break.

murgatroid99

14:44

@Wipqozn sounds like it would be

Wipqozn

14:58

lolol oh Applejack

"Was your Zebra sense atingaling?"

Lazers

0

Q: Colours for new accounts are the wrong way round in /tools

The newer account should be redder than the older account!

bug formatting css

fredley

I'm in a pedantic mood

murgatroid99

@Wipqozn which one is that again?

Wipqozn

@murgatroid99 Cutie Pox.

0

A: How do you identify rare items?

Right click on it. It will identify in a few seconds.

It's times like this I think we should implement a "no dup answer" policy of some sort.

It's just a less detailed duplicate of an answer posted 12 hours before it.

murgatroid99

@Wipqozn yeah, that's pretty bad

Gaming not on Gaming

15:11

0

Q: problem with isleriot solitare since upgrading to 12.04

The game can be dounloaded butall the previous options like "re-start, close, etc. are not available. In order to get out of the game I have to re-boot.

games

Yi Jiang

@Wipqozn I have commented / thought about it many times, but the mods have been consistently saying "it's not our job"

murgatroid99

@Wipqozn maybe something like "disallow any answer that provides a subset of the information in a single other answer and was posted at least X hours later"

Wipqozn

@YiJiang By the current policy it isn't.

Yi Jiang

Which I believe, excuse the language, is utter bullshit

Wipqozn

We currently don't have a policy for deleting duplicate answers, so there is no reason for them to start deleting answers.

Yi Jiang

15:13

@Wipqozn No, they're saying that they need to follow the "we don't look at content matter" stance

fbueckert

Score! Got all six gems!

murgatroid99

@YiJiang actually, I can see how that matters. It might take some work/prior knowledge to determine whether an answer is a duplicate of another

badp

I hate my hard drive so much

Yi Jiang

@murgatroid99 Possibly, but there are also a lot of cases where the duplication is incredibly obvious, like where one answer is mostly a substring of another

fredley

@fbueckert Congrats

@badp Get a new one

Yi Jiang

15:16

For example, I flagged this, and got marked helpful, but with no action taken: gaming.stackexchange.com/a/69195/3936

badp

@fredley I'd also hate the new hard drive

fredley

@badp Get an SSD?

badp

@fredley They're unreliable as shit

Yi Jiang

The new answer is more than a month behind the old one, and contains the exact same text as the old one

fbueckert

@badp Don't hate technology. Get even.

murgatroid99

15:16

@YiJiang as @Wipqozn said though, there is no rule that says that answers like that should be deleted

Yi Jiang

With less details

fbueckert

Threaten it with submersion if it doesn't work like you want.

fredley

@badp Thought they were ok these day

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Wipqozn

Maybe there should be, but there currently isn't. Feel free to make a proposal though. There are other sites which have a no dups policy.

Yi Jiang

@murgatroid99 I know, but I don't see why they shouldn't. They're obviously noise that add no value to the site.

badp

15:17

@fbueckert I just hate it when everything grinds to a halt and the disk brings everything to a screeching halt

@fredley although. To be fair. I also hate Windows for defaulting to x86 on this laptop

fredley

@badp That happen often?

murgatroid99

@YiJiang you're right, but we still need such a rule before we go around deleting stuff.

fbueckert

@badp Bad HDD, or just REALLY slow?

badp

@fredley all the time. I think it's Windows flunking paging

fredley

@badp Sounds more like a memory issue than a hdd issue. Get more memory.

@badp I upgraded my (work) machine from 4 to 8 the other day. Made a world of difference to the amount of paging

badp

15:19

@fredley cough x86 cough

fredley

@badp Ah. Buy a new laptop then.

Yi Jiang

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Q: Dealing with duplicate answers

Some people are just innately helpful, I suppose. When they arrive at a q&a site they must immediately post their answer to a question, regardless of its answered status. I've been noticing it consistently, but I'm not sure how to deal with it. Most recent example is this where the answer is...

discussion answers

badp

@fredley This thing actually can run x64 code

fredley

@badp So switch to x64 Windows?

badp

and I do have 64 bit Ubuntu installed if my memory serves me right

@fredley How?!

fredley

15:20

Backup, format, reinstall

Happy day's work

Think of it as a spring clean

badp

@fredley I just installed Windows 8 from a disk with both versions of Windows on it

it didn't ask me what to install

it just installed 32 bit

I'm going to try again as the consumer preview hits

fredley

@badp The W8 installer makes it as simple as possible, I'm pretty sure you can configure the install though.

@badp Uhhh...

badp

@fredley It's actually pretty much the same as the Win7 installer

fredley

@badp Just a sec, I'll fire up a W8 install on my other machine and see if I can set the bitness

Yi Jiang

There should be an 'advance option' thingadongdong somewhere

badp

15:22

@fredley like you can change that "on the fly"?

fredley

@badp VMs...

badp

@fredley oh.

fredley

@badp Oh ok, looking in our file server we have 2 isos.

Guess what the difference is

badp

@fredley let me check on msdnaa too

or actually the windows 8 download page itself

fredley

@badp Ah msdnaa, how I miss thee

badp

15:24

@fredley windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/download

fredley

@badp windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-8/iso

murgatroid99

@YiJiang looks like the consensus is to leave them

badp

@fredley Yeah, I guess next time I'll just grab the ISO directly

I grabbed the installer because my original plan was an USB install

then I figured out that Windows still doesn't work like that unless you're willing to throw down much money Redmond's way

fredley

@badp Even for this use an ISO, and do magic to the USB drive to make it behave like a Disk drive

badp

@fredley I could do it easily with kvm, but what about the drivers when I run it on actual hardware?

running Windows 8 in a VM is kind of missing the point

fredley

15:27

@badp For using it, yes. I'm using it to make sure our software runs on it though.

I won't install on personal machines until release

agent86

15:42

@fredley indeed - if microsoft wants me to personally beta test their software, they can cut me a check :P

fredley

@agent86 I beta tested Minecraft for a year and I had to pay!

agent86

@fredley bah! bah I say! BAH!

fredley

@agent86 You sound like a pissed off sheep

agent86

@fredley baaaaaaaaah. baaaaaaaah~!

fredley

@agent86 Hahaha

Sterno

15:56

I love these kinds of questions. +1 Good answer with the side-by-side. — desaivv 7 mins ago

This causes me physical pain.

fredley

Can a mod retag this: gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/17822/…

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